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#52  Edited By Puggy301
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I don't understand why cutting the price of the X1 constitutes giving the "middle finger" to early adopters. Price cuts for new consoles are an inevitability. No console has ever retained its original asking price. Using previous gens as a guide, price cuts usually start occurring after the first year. M$, out of necessity, has just decided to do it a little early this gen, that's all.

I've done my share of M$ bashing here, but let's face facts. What else is M$ supposed to do? They're on the bow of the Titanic, and the ice berg is in sight. If they don't move quickly & decisively, all will be lost. And, contrary to the article in the OP, price cuts are always great for consumers (including those who adopt the system early) because doing so usually increases the system's installed base. Anyone who honestly interprets a price cut as an obscene gesture directed at them should seriously reconsider ever adopting a console early in its development again.

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#53 Shewgenja
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@StormyJoe said:

Whatever, man. You just made me laugh by insinuating you don't have "no emotional investment" in the PS4. Maybe if I was new to this forum, I might "possibly" believe you on face value; but come on, that's like the Pope saying he is agnostic.

I enjoy seeing the XBox pushed to sea and burned, yes. I enjoy the fact that the PS4 is a gamer-centric system in a generation where gamers were supposed to be an after-thought, yes. Do I fall at the altar of Sony burning frankincense and mihr while worshipping Kaz Hirai as the once and future king of all that is gaming? No, I don't. All this "moo-genja" fuckery proves is that Lems pay so much attention to me owning their buttholes in XBox vs Playstation threads that they utterly ignore when I post in hermit threads and classic gaming threads (though, those are few and far between).

I'm some almighty Cow-God here by default, it seems. Common sense dictates you have to be an MS fanboy to be on a gaming forum proudly waving a green and white banner for a machine that tacitly admits that it does not put gaming first. It's the same reason ya'll are calling NeoGAF "SonyGAF" too. Pro-XBox people are the fuckwhipes of gaming. Don't take it out on me for pointing out the obvious.

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#54 lglz1337
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this is what you get when you support MS a big **** you give me my money

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@charizard1605 said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

Is this only in the UK?

So far, yes

@mrintro said:

You know, I'm kind of split on this kind of thing. The thing is, they were willing to pay the original price on Day 1. They knew they could've waited, but they wanted to show their support. So will they really mind?

I'm on board with you for that in that people who bought it for that price clearly thought the system was worth their money, right?

But the thing is, with a price cut this early, Microsoft stands to piss them off. I mean, even if I am an Xbox fan, why would I buy the next Xbox at launch if I know a major price cut is just about three months away, you know?

So the least Microsoft could do would be to pacify the fans, especially since early adopters not only had to pay more for the console, they also have to pay full price to buy the biggest game for their console that newcomers now get for free.

I'm inclined to think this will be the last Xbox launch.

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#56 FoxbatAlpha
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Wasn't everyone on here saying that "I would get a X1 if it was cheaper"????? SW is full of hypocrites.

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#57  Edited By Strutten
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I really dont see this as a bad thing at all, if you want something on launch day - you pay the (high)price like everything else and its always been that way(which is the risk of buying things on launch). Should i complain about everything i buy then (tv's, phones, yea you name it).. People knew the price before hand and bought it right away, and even with that kind of price you really should expect an price drop rather fast, thats how it goes in that buisness.. its not like its much anyway

Wasting time like this, use it on something else than sucking such small and pathetic things like this too you.. and even if its a problem for you try call em' - they will prolly give you a free game or something ? but anyway what do people expect them to do, if i may ask ? Go a year or 2 on that price and lose even more of their installbase? come on this is seriously common sense and logic.

And as for the cows, since when did you care about who and who hasnt bought x1's all of the sudden? typical its mostly if not always you guys spamming these threads (xbox and ms related). come on you dont even care anyway.

and again if you guys didnt knew the prices will continue too drop even further in the future, and then the magic question - should i then complain again on the next drop ofcourse not.

Hypocrites nothing more, nothing less.

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#58  Edited By handssss
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Wasn't everyone on here saying that "I would get a X1 if it was cheaper"????? SW is full of hypocrites.

did they lower the price? not really. all MS did was package a game most of us can run on any PC.

MS needs to scrap the Kinect and sell for $400.

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#59 Strutten
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@lglz1337: Massive facepalm. That was just pathetic and lame dude. get a grip

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#60  Edited By PurpleMan5000
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@bforrester420 said:

@charizard1605 said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

Is this only in the UK?

So far, yes

@mrintro said:

You know, I'm kind of split on this kind of thing. The thing is, they were willing to pay the original price on Day 1. They knew they could've waited, but they wanted to show their support. So will they really mind?

I'm on board with you for that in that people who bought it for that price clearly thought the system was worth their money, right?

But the thing is, with a price cut this early, Microsoft stands to piss them off. I mean, even if I am an Xbox fan, why would I buy the next Xbox at launch if I know a major price cut is just about three months away, you know?

So the least Microsoft could do would be to pacify the fans, especially since early adopters not only had to pay more for the console, they also have to pay full price to buy the biggest game for their console that newcomers now get for free.

I'm inclined to think this will be the last Xbox launch.

I'm inclined to agree. I would have been sad to see them leave after the Xbox, but after last gen, I think it would be a good thing.

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Wasn't everyone on here saying that "I would get a X1 if it was cheaper"????? SW is full of hypocrites.

I would buy it for $450 with free XBLG. With paid online, it is worth about $300 to me, but it probably won't still be worth that much by the time it actually reaches that price point.

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Wasn't everyone on here saying that "I would get a X1 if it was cheaper"????? SW is full of hypocrites.

I do not recall saying that, no.

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#64  Edited By mrintro
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@PurpleMan5000 said:

@bforrester420 said:

@charizard1605 said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

Is this only in the UK?

So far, yes

@mrintro said:

You know, I'm kind of split on this kind of thing. The thing is, they were willing to pay the original price on Day 1. They knew they could've waited, but they wanted to show their support. So will they really mind?

I'm on board with you for that in that people who bought it for that price clearly thought the system was worth their money, right?

But the thing is, with a price cut this early, Microsoft stands to piss them off. I mean, even if I am an Xbox fan, why would I buy the next Xbox at launch if I know a major price cut is just about three months away, you know?

So the least Microsoft could do would be to pacify the fans, especially since early adopters not only had to pay more for the console, they also have to pay full price to buy the biggest game for their console that newcomers now get for free.

I'm inclined to think this will be the last Xbox launch.

I'm inclined to agree. I would have been sad to see them leave after the Xbox, but after last gen, I think it would be a good thing.

The company has to do what it takes to survive. Just like any product, there's nothing written in stone about price.

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#65  Edited By killatwill15
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@StormyJoe said:

@Shewgenja said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Shewgenja said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

When you buy something from a company are you not supporting them?

Nope. Just getting a machine that plays games. I have no emotional investment in the process. If you support anything, support the developers that make the games.

No emotional investment? HA HA HA HA!!! Dude, you are one of the biggest super-moo-cow-trolls on this site, and you are going to tell people you have no "emotional investment"?

What a bunch of bullshit.

Just because you are a corporate fap rag doesn't mean everyone else is.

Whatever, man. You just made me laugh by insinuating you don't have "no emotional investment" in the PS4. Maybe if I was new to this forum, I might "possibly" believe you on face value; but come on, that's like the Pope saying he is agnostic.

obviously you are mad that Microsoft fucked you,

and you said "NO" to emotional investment,

just because you are an xbot, doesn't mean anger is not an emotion.

stay mad

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Wasn't everyone on here saying that "I would get a X1 if it was cheaper"????? SW is full of hypocrites.

its just that people don't want the Kinect period,

even if it means not buying the damn system,

nothing hypocritical about avoid shit before you step in it.

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So a price cut is giving the middle finger to the early adopters? Did anyone actually expect it to stay at it's launch price? Didn't Sony cut the price of the PS3 twice in the 1st year? It's asinine to think MS wasn't going to cut the price, especially if it wasn't selling well in a particular region.

How anyone would see this as an F U to the early adopters is beyond me. Product not meeting your expectation, you drop the price. This concept is not new nor is it exclusive.

^^^^^ideal m$ customer right here people. doesnt care m$ offering discount just 3 months after release, he is just happy m$ is making money haha

Nope doesn't bother me at all. Price drops happen and they happen all the time. This isn't new and I wasn't stupid enough to think it wasn't going to happen. No different that people paying premium prices for the PS4 on ebay just to be an early adopter.

What's lame is people like you trying to claim ownage for a price drop. SWs is getting dumber and dumber

u wouldnt survive in business with that mentality. even m$ offered free games to early original xbox adaptors after a early price drop because most people are casual/semi-casual gamers who feel ripped off and are unlikely to buy early from the company again which is why companies offer them something like nintendo ambassador scheme. price drops happen but they are not supposed to happen 3 months into lifecycle and those who buy of ebay do so knowingly, u think early adopters expected price drop after 3 months?

It's a good thing I'm not a business man to even care. Did Sony offer anything when the PS3 dropped in price to it's early adopters?

Did the price drop in NA? Last time I checked it's still $499. Why do you even care? You had ZERO plans on getting the XOne anyway so how does this effect you?

Like I've been saying, it's stupid to complain about a price drop. They happen all the time.

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#68  Edited By tyloss
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Microsoft fucking over there customers like usual.

People should know this already i.e Zune,Windows Phone, Xbox, Xbox 360, Kin, Surface Tablet, Windows 8.

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#69  Edited By tyloss
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Wasn't everyone on here saying that "I would get a X1 if it was cheaper"????? SW is full of hypocrites.

lol, no-one said that.

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@kingtito said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kingtito said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kingtito said:

So a price cut is giving the middle finger to the early adopters? Did anyone actually expect it to stay at it's launch price? Didn't Sony cut the price of the PS3 twice in the 1st year? It's asinine to think MS wasn't going to cut the price, especially if it wasn't selling well in a particular region.

How anyone would see this as an F U to the early adopters is beyond me. Product not meeting your expectation, you drop the price. This concept is not new nor is it exclusive.

^^^^^ideal m$ customer right here people. doesnt care m$ offering discount just 3 months after release, he is just happy m$ is making money haha

Nope doesn't bother me at all. Price drops happen and they happen all the time. This isn't new and I wasn't stupid enough to think it wasn't going to happen. No different that people paying premium prices for the PS4 on ebay just to be an early adopter.

What's lame is people like you trying to claim ownage for a price drop. SWs is getting dumber and dumber

u wouldnt survive in business with that mentality. even m$ offered free games to early original xbox adaptors after a early price drop because most people are casual/semi-casual gamers who feel ripped off and are unlikely to buy early from the company again which is why companies offer them something like nintendo ambassador scheme. price drops happen but they are not supposed to happen 3 months into lifecycle and those who buy of ebay do so knowingly, u think early adopters expected price drop after 3 months?

It's a good thing I'm not a business man to even care. Did Sony offer anything when the PS3 dropped in price to it's early adopters?

Did the price drop in NA? Last time I checked it's still $499. Why do you even care? You had ZERO plans on getting the XOne anyway so how does this effect you?

Like I've been saying, it's stupid to complain about a price drop. They happen all the time.

i wasnt stupid enough to buy ps3 at launch so no idea if sony did. and yes this is a price drop, its 499 plus a game worth 60. did u get a free game when u bought yours? and yes u are right i dont give a sh$t about x1 even if it was free i wouldnt have it in my house and thats not exaggeration. price drops happen but not 90 days after release, i just want to take a moment and laugh at delusional lems who thought x1 is selling well haha m$ giving away their killer app for free +price cut.

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@tyloss said:

Microsoft fucking over there customers like usual.

People should know this already i.e Zune,Windows Phone, Xbox, Xbox 360, Kin, Surface Tablet, Windows 8.

Please stop.

Xbox, Xbox 360, Surface, and Windows Phone are all great products, and Microsoft continues to support all of them (or supported them when they were active) exceptionally.

Windows 8 is a confused product but at least they stick by it.

The Zune, in spite of being an absolute failure, was supported for five years.

You want to know who has a history of introducing a new product and then failing to support it properly? Sony. See also: PS Move, PS Eyetoy, PS Camera, PSP Go, PS Vita, Wonderbook.

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kingtito said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kingtito said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kingtito said:

So a price cut is giving the middle finger to the early adopters? Did anyone actually expect it to stay at it's launch price? Didn't Sony cut the price of the PS3 twice in the 1st year? It's asinine to think MS wasn't going to cut the price, especially if it wasn't selling well in a particular region.

How anyone would see this as an F U to the early adopters is beyond me. Product not meeting your expectation, you drop the price. This concept is not new nor is it exclusive.

^^^^^ideal m$ customer right here people. doesnt care m$ offering discount just 3 months after release, he is just happy m$ is making money haha

Nope doesn't bother me at all. Price drops happen and they happen all the time. This isn't new and I wasn't stupid enough to think it wasn't going to happen. No different that people paying premium prices for the PS4 on ebay just to be an early adopter.

What's lame is people like you trying to claim ownage for a price drop. SWs is getting dumber and dumber

u wouldnt survive in business with that mentality. even m$ offered free games to early original xbox adaptors after a early price drop because most people are casual/semi-casual gamers who feel ripped off and are unlikely to buy early from the company again which is why companies offer them something like nintendo ambassador scheme. price drops happen but they are not supposed to happen 3 months into lifecycle and those who buy of ebay do so knowingly, u think early adopters expected price drop after 3 months?

It's a good thing I'm not a business man to even care. Did Sony offer anything when the PS3 dropped in price to it's early adopters?

Did the price drop in NA? Last time I checked it's still $499. Why do you even care? You had ZERO plans on getting the XOne anyway so how does this effect you?

Like I've been saying, it's stupid to complain about a price drop. They happen all the time.

i wasnt stupid enough to buy ps3 at launch so no idea if sony did. and yes this is a price drop, its 499 plus a game worth 60. did u get a free game when u bought yours? and yes u are right i dont give a sh$t about x1 even if it was free i wouldnt have it in my house and thats not exaggeration. price drops happen but not 90 days after release, i just want to take a moment and laugh at delusional lems who thought x1 is selling well haha m$ giving away their killer app for free +price cut.

This is only in the UK. No even if it were bundled here in NA for $499 it's not a price drop unless the non bundled consoles are $450. I wouldn't get the bundle anyway since I'm not going to play TF on the XOne. The bundle does me absolutly no good.

The XOne sold over 3 million units. It's hardly failing and news flash...the PS4 had a price drop as well. PS4 price drop UK

Guess that means it's not selling well either huh.

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#73  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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@charizard1605 said:

@tyloss said:

Microsoft fucking over there customers like usual.

People should know this already i.e Zune,Windows Phone, Xbox, Xbox 360, Kin, Surface Tablet, Windows 8.

Please stop.

Xbox, Xbox 360, Surface, and Windows Phone are all great products, and Microsoft continues to support all of them (or supported them when they were active) exceptionally.

Windows 8 is a confused product but at least they stick by it.

The Zune, in spite of being an absolute failure, was supported for five years.

You want to know who has a history of introducing a new product and then failing to support it properly? Sony. See also: PS Move, PS Eyetoy, PS Camera, PSP Go, PS Vita, Wonderbook.

what?? x360 supported exceptionally haha is this some sick joke? what happened in the last 3 years then. also windows phone is garbage, i say this from first hand experience. i bought nokia lumia 800 when it 1st released and guess what m$ dropped support after 1 major update, u call that support? and this was for the flagship nokia phone, m$ are pure scumbags.

ps. the sooner vita dies the better, more studios can focus on ps4 games

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#74 tyloss
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@charizard1605 said:

@tyloss said:

Microsoft fucking over there customers like usual.

People should know this already i.e Zune,Windows Phone, Xbox, Xbox 360, Kin, Surface Tablet, Windows 8.

Please stop.

Xbox, Xbox 360, Surface, and Windows Phone are all great products, and Microsoft continues to support all of them (or supported them when they were active) exceptionally.

Windows 8 is a confused product but at least they stick by it.

The Zune, in spite of being an absolute failure, was supported for five years.

You want to know who has a history of introducing a new product and then failing to support it properly? Sony. See also: PS Move, PS Eyetoy, PS Camera, PSP Go, PS Vita, Wonderbook.

I lol'd.

What's in common with all those products you called "good"? No support.

Windows Phones are a complete joke compared to the vastly superior Android Phones and Iphones. On top of an atrocious non functional UI, you have little app support coupled with boring ugly phone designs. My brothers WP didn't even have instagram until mid 2013.

The Orginial Xbox Console was a joke compared to the Playstation 4 in every single aspect sans graphics. Online is mute since most of my friends didn't have an Xbox.

Xbox 360, literally had two good games Reach and 4. Everything else was available on better platforms.

Windows 8 is an utter failure.

And the Surface? Just lol. Literally only useful for writing word documents. Everything my Ipad air does better, faster, and more functionally. Including my Xepria Z tablet (man I wish I didn't sell it).

And what does this thread have to do with Sony? Insecure much?

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#75  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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@kingtito said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kingtito said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kingtito said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kingtito said:

So a price cut is giving the middle finger to the early adopters? Did anyone actually expect it to stay at it's launch price? Didn't Sony cut the price of the PS3 twice in the 1st year? It's asinine to think MS wasn't going to cut the price, especially if it wasn't selling well in a particular region.

How anyone would see this as an F U to the early adopters is beyond me. Product not meeting your expectation, you drop the price. This concept is not new nor is it exclusive.

^^^^^ideal m$ customer right here people. doesnt care m$ offering discount just 3 months after release, he is just happy m$ is making money haha

Nope doesn't bother me at all. Price drops happen and they happen all the time. This isn't new and I wasn't stupid enough to think it wasn't going to happen. No different that people paying premium prices for the PS4 on ebay just to be an early adopter.

What's lame is people like you trying to claim ownage for a price drop. SWs is getting dumber and dumber

u wouldnt survive in business with that mentality. even m$ offered free games to early original xbox adaptors after a early price drop because most people are casual/semi-casual gamers who feel ripped off and are unlikely to buy early from the company again which is why companies offer them something like nintendo ambassador scheme. price drops happen but they are not supposed to happen 3 months into lifecycle and those who buy of ebay do so knowingly, u think early adopters expected price drop after 3 months?

It's a good thing I'm not a business man to even care. Did Sony offer anything when the PS3 dropped in price to it's early adopters?

Did the price drop in NA? Last time I checked it's still $499. Why do you even care? You had ZERO plans on getting the XOne anyway so how does this effect you?

Like I've been saying, it's stupid to complain about a price drop. They happen all the time.

i wasnt stupid enough to buy ps3 at launch so no idea if sony did. and yes this is a price drop, its 499 plus a game worth 60. did u get a free game when u bought yours? and yes u are right i dont give a sh$t about x1 even if it was free i wouldnt have it in my house and thats not exaggeration. price drops happen but not 90 days after release, i just want to take a moment and laugh at delusional lems who thought x1 is selling well haha m$ giving away their killer app for free +price cut.

This is only in the UK. No even if it were bundled here in NA for $499 it's not a price drop unless the non bundled consoles are $450. I wouldn't get the bundle anyway since I'm not going to play TF on the XOne. The bundle does me absolutly no good.

The XOne sold over 3 million units. It's hardly failing and news flash...the PS4 had a price drop as well. PS4 price drop UK

Guess that means it's not selling well either huh.

u do know titanfall is bundled at 499 in us right? its confirmed. that ps4 price drop u are referring to was not done by sony, it was by gamestop to gain media attention. ps4 are still selling out constantly while x1 rotting away, 150k in 3rd month after release for a console thats not supply constrained is ridiculously poor. the drop off was similar to wiiu level, its not selling well at all hence the global bundling of its most anticipated game for 0 extra price and a price cut in uk.

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kingtito said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kingtito said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kingtito said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kingtito said:

So a price cut is giving the middle finger to the early adopters? Did anyone actually expect it to stay at it's launch price? Didn't Sony cut the price of the PS3 twice in the 1st year? It's asinine to think MS wasn't going to cut the price, especially if it wasn't selling well in a particular region.

How anyone would see this as an F U to the early adopters is beyond me. Product not meeting your expectation, you drop the price. This concept is not new nor is it exclusive.

^^^^^ideal m$ customer right here people. doesnt care m$ offering discount just 3 months after release, he is just happy m$ is making money haha

Nope doesn't bother me at all. Price drops happen and they happen all the time. This isn't new and I wasn't stupid enough to think it wasn't going to happen. No different that people paying premium prices for the PS4 on ebay just to be an early adopter.

What's lame is people like you trying to claim ownage for a price drop. SWs is getting dumber and dumber

u wouldnt survive in business with that mentality. even m$ offered free games to early original xbox adaptors after a early price drop because most people are casual/semi-casual gamers who feel ripped off and are unlikely to buy early from the company again which is why companies offer them something like nintendo ambassador scheme. price drops happen but they are not supposed to happen 3 months into lifecycle and those who buy of ebay do so knowingly, u think early adopters expected price drop after 3 months?

It's a good thing I'm not a business man to even care. Did Sony offer anything when the PS3 dropped in price to it's early adopters?

Did the price drop in NA? Last time I checked it's still $499. Why do you even care? You had ZERO plans on getting the XOne anyway so how does this effect you?

Like I've been saying, it's stupid to complain about a price drop. They happen all the time.

i wasnt stupid enough to buy ps3 at launch so no idea if sony did. and yes this is a price drop, its 499 plus a game worth 60. did u get a free game when u bought yours? and yes u are right i dont give a sh$t about x1 even if it was free i wouldnt have it in my house and thats not exaggeration. price drops happen but not 90 days after release, i just want to take a moment and laugh at delusional lems who thought x1 is selling well haha m$ giving away their killer app for free +price cut.

This is only in the UK. No even if it were bundled here in NA for $499 it's not a price drop unless the non bundled consoles are $450. I wouldn't get the bundle anyway since I'm not going to play TF on the XOne. The bundle does me absolutly no good.

The XOne sold over 3 million units. It's hardly failing and news flash...the PS4 had a price drop as well. PS4 price drop UK

Guess that means it's not selling well either huh.

u do know titanfall is bundled at 499 in us right? its confirmed. that ps4 price drop u are referring to was not done by sony, it was by gamestop to gain media attention. ps4 are still selling out constantly while x1 rotting away, 150k in 3rd month after release for a console thats not supply constrained is ridiculously poor. the drop off was similar to wiiu level, its not selling well at all hence the global bundling of its most anticipated game for 0 extra price and a price cut in uk.

Is the non game bundled XOne cheaper? If not then it's not on sale. The only thing different is it coming with TF for a short period of time. That's not a price drop.

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@killatwill15 said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Shewgenja said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Shewgenja said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

When you buy something from a company are you not supporting them?

Nope. Just getting a machine that plays games. I have no emotional investment in the process. If you support anything, support the developers that make the games.

No emotional investment? HA HA HA HA!!! Dude, you are one of the biggest super-moo-cow-trolls on this site, and you are going to tell people you have no "emotional investment"?

What a bunch of bullshit.

Just because you are a corporate fap rag doesn't mean everyone else is.

Whatever, man. You just made me laugh by insinuating you don't have "no emotional investment" in the PS4. Maybe if I was new to this forum, I might "possibly" believe you on face value; but come on, that's like the Pope saying he is agnostic.

obviously you are mad that Microsoft fucked you,

and you said "NO" to emotional investment,

just because you are an xbot, doesn't mean anger is not an emotion.

stay mad

OK, Mr "Obvious Alt Account".

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"For us, this is about giving UK gamers the best value that we can," This is how MS justifies their struggling system rofl. Also (im surprised this wasn't in the article lol), did you know that 4 trillion combos were achieved in KI? Over 2 million accessories sold!~. Five million hours were logged in since launch! I dunno dude but these are all huge numbers which means the system is great!!!


At this point The Bone is worst than a joke and its only the beginning

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@silversix_: For an active young adult, the Xbox one serves no purpose.

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@tyloss said:

@silversix_: For an active young adult, the Xbox one serves no purpose.

For the full grown adult with 2 kids a house and a full time job and a wife that works a full time job, it sure has done wonders for me ;)

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@charizard1605 said:

Three months after release, Microsoft’s panic price cut is an insult to its most loyal fans. And as an added kick in the jewels they get to see later adopters pick up Titanfall for free.

Microsoft took a lot of people off guard today by announcing a price cut in the UK on the Xbox One, a games console it only released last November.

Critics, analysts, fans, marketers and everyone else with a throwaway opinion had been calling out Microsoft for its overpriced console since it first revealed the price point at E3 last year, but it was still a shock to see the company slash ÂŁ30 off the machine and throw in a copy of Titanfall to boot.

Yep, Titanfall. The most anticipated game on the console. Possibly the most-anticipated game of the year. The one many had been holding off buying the console for. At the risk of repeating myself, now you can pick up the console for less and the game for free.

Surely none were more shocked than the early adopters of the Xbox One, those dedicated fans who bought the machine on day one. These are the fans who not only helped push the console to more than 3.9 million units shipped worldwide but also hoovered up the first batch of high-profile releases, no matter how they reviewed.

Clearly, sales of Microsoft’s Xbox One are lagging behind Sony’s PlayStation 4 in the UK. There’s no other way to assess such an immediate and drastic price cut less than three months after release. It’s a panic move from Microsoft.

It cannot let Sony get ahead and stay ahead this early in the console lifecycle otherwise it remains in second place for years. And in a race that only has two competitors, second place is first loser.

This may be Microsoft levelling the playing field with Sony, but it does so at the cost of pulling the rug out from under the asses of its most loyal supporters.

Obviously people buy a console on day one for many reasons, and no-one forced them to drop ÂŁ429 on their hardware of choice.

But neither did they expect to see the price cut so quickly and have to fork out ÂŁ50 for a game later adopters are now going to get for free.

When Microsoft cut the price of the original Xbox in 2002 (for the same reason – sluggish sales) it offered two free games to early adopters and an extra controller. So far, there has been no such “thank you package”.

Indeed, Microsoft’s latest backtrack for its games console – of which there have been a ludicrous amount – is more of a “**** you package” to the fans it should be grateful to for supporting it so far in this console war.

I really, really hope Microsoft has some sort of 'Ambassador Program' arranged here. They did it with the original Xbox, and they let fans have a game for free; Nintendo did it with the N64 (and allowed full refunds), and 3DS (and gave away twenty free games), so if Microsoft does not want to lose even more goodwill, they need to pacify early adopters.

SOURCE

Omg , i agree with Charizard for once !!? Thats first !

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I feel like some Cow found a magic lamp about a year ago.

A genie popped out and offered 3 wishes.

The Cows first wish was for a billion wishes.

Since then he has constantly been wishing new types and heights of idiocy, failure and disaster on Microsoft and the Xbox One.

From the name, to the all digital focus, to the pathetic 180, to the media focus, to worthless Kinect integration, to the price, to the flopping exclusives, to the inferior multiplats, to idiotic PR statements, to this.

Seriously, I just can't believe MS went from the brilliant 360 to this pile of utter garbage and utterly destroyed every bit of goodwill they had painstakingly built up over the past decade. There had to be genies, or voodoo, or witchcraft. At least they fixed the d pad though :P

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@darkangel115 said:

@tyloss said:

@silversix_: For an active young adult, the Xbox one serves no purpose.

For the full grown adult with 2 kids a house and a full time job and a wife that works a full time job, it sure has done wonders for me ;)

Like watching movies on Netflix which is done better on ps4 for lower price. Xbox One does nothing well but collect dust in your room.

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@silversix_ said:

@darkangel115 said:

@tyloss said:

@silversix_: For an active young adult, the Xbox one serves no purpose.

For the full grown adult with 2 kids a house and a full time job and a wife that works a full time job, it sure has done wonders for me ;)

Like watching movies on Netflix which is done better on ps4 for lower price. Xbox One does nothing well but collect dust in your room.

my PS4 collects dust for me. And not because it isn't a good system, there is just nothing to play on it. And honestly thats fine and to be expected. Its not my 1st console launch that's why i get both. I'm not gonna trash sony for it. Also i have like 20 devices that play netflix in my house lol. Why would i care about the PS4 playing netflix? I use apple tv for that and its way better then the PS4 and X1 do. and it was a 100 dollar device. It also lets me mirror screens on my ipad/ipods/iphone. Which is great when using other apps. I can run HBO go on it as well, something the X1 and PS4 can't do. Point is who cares. IDK what you little whiny kids like to find these little things and complain about. You should get outside more. I'm sorry but for me to turn everything on when i get home without looking for a remote that who knows where my wife left it is awesome. also to see my kids say "xbox go to nick jr" is awesome and cute. To see my wife use xbox fitness while i play with the kids then she plays with them so i can have some gaming time. The xbox worked so well in my house that i just ordered a second one with the digital titanfall game. So since its digital i can have 2 people play on the one copy so when friends come over we can both play it, on the one digital copy. It wouldn't surprise me if i wind up with like 4-5 of them eventually. Maybe one day when you grow older you'll understand.

Edit: not to mention if the kids don't wanna get away from the TV to eat/shower/homework/bed time etc a simple "xbox turn off" does the trick

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#85  Edited By Shewgenja
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@locopatho said:

I feel like some Cow found a magic lamp about a year ago.

A genie popped out and offered 3 wishes.

The Cows first wish was for a billion wishes.

Since then he has constantly been wishing new types and heights of idiocy, failure and disaster on Microsoft and the Xbox One.

From the name, to the all digital focus, to the pathetic 180, to the media focus, to worthless Kinect integration, to the price, to the flopping exclusives, to the inferior multiplats, to idiotic PR statements, to this.

Seriously, I just can't believe MS went from the brilliant 360 to this pile of utter garbage and utterly destroyed every bit of goodwill they had painstakingly built up over the past decade. There had to be genies, or voodoo, or witchcraft. At least they fixed the d pad though :P

Nope, it's the direction they went in with the launch of Kinect. No genie needed. The Lems GLEEFULLY clapped their hands in excitement while MS left the core fanbase coughing and wheezing in a dust cloud. 2009 was a bitch.

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@tyloss said:

@charizard1605 said:

@tyloss said:

Microsoft fucking over there customers like usual.

People should know this already i.e Zune,Windows Phone, Xbox, Xbox 360, Kin, Surface Tablet, Windows 8.

Please stop.

Xbox, Xbox 360, Surface, and Windows Phone are all great products, and Microsoft continues to support all of them (or supported them when they were active) exceptionally.

Windows 8 is a confused product but at least they stick by it.

The Zune, in spite of being an absolute failure, was supported for five years.

You want to know who has a history of introducing a new product and then failing to support it properly? Sony. See also: PS Move, PS Eyetoy, PS Camera, PSP Go, PS Vita, Wonderbook.

I lol'd.

What's in common with all those products you called "good"? No support.

Windows Phones are a complete joke compared to the vastly superior Android Phones and Iphones. On top of an atrocious non functional UI, you have little app support coupled with boring ugly phone designs. My brothers WP didn't even have instagram until mid 2013.

The Orginial Xbox Console was a joke compared to the Playstation 4 in every single aspect sans graphics. Online is mute since most of my friends didn't have an Xbox.

Xbox 360, literally had two good games Reach and 4. Everything else was available on better platforms.

Windows 8 is an utter failure.

And the Surface? Just lol. Literally only useful for writing word documents. Everything my Ipad air does better, faster, and more functionally. Including my Xepria Z tablet (man I wish I didn't sell it).

And what does this thread have to do with Sony? Insecure much?

That you actually believe your own that bs you are spewing out here is beyond pathetic..
Lemme bold the fails here. Sound like to me " i dont like em, so they per auto suck". dude get out of here, its sickened too see how people are acting nowadays. "bu bu i dont like it " grow up dude.

They are great products, whether you like it or not - and if i must so you dont think or twist "im a lem" so is sony's products.

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#87  Edited By I_can_haz
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@locopatho said:

I feel like some Cow found a magic lamp about a year ago.

A genie popped out and offered 3 wishes.

The Cows first wish was for a billion wishes.

Since then he has constantly been wishing new types and heights of idiocy, failure and disaster on Microsoft and the Xbox One.

From the name, to the all digital focus, to the pathetic 180, to the media focus, to worthless Kinect integration, to the price, to the flopping exclusives, to the inferior multiplats, to idiotic PR statements, to this.

Seriously, I just can't believe MS went from the brilliant 360 to this pile of utter garbage and utterly destroyed every bit of goodwill they had painstakingly built up over the past decade. There had to be genies, or voodoo, or witchcraft. At least they fixed the d pad though :P

That genie for cows was Lord Kaz.

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#88  Edited By silversix_
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@darkangel115 said:

@silversix_ said:

@darkangel115 said:

@tyloss said:

@silversix_: For an active young adult, the Xbox one serves no purpose.

For the full grown adult with 2 kids a house and a full time job and a wife that works a full time job, it sure has done wonders for me ;)

Like watching movies on Netflix which is done better on ps4 for lower price. Xbox One does nothing well but collect dust in your room.

my PS4 collects dust for me. And not because it isn't a good system, there is just nothing to play on it. And honestly thats fine and to be expected. Its not my 1st console launch that's why i get both. I'm not gonna trash sony for it. Also i have like 20 devices that play netflix in my house lol. Why would i care about the PS4 playing netflix? I use apple tv for that and its way better then the PS4 and X1 do. and it was a 100 dollar device. It also lets me mirror screens on my ipad/ipods/iphone. Which is great when using other apps. I can run HBO go on it as well, something the X1 and PS4 can't do. Point is who cares. IDK what you little whiny kids like to find these little things and complain about. You should get outside more. I'm sorry but for me to turn everything on when i get home without looking for a remote that who knows where my wife left it is awesome. also to see my kids say "xbox go to nick jr" is awesome and cute. To see my wife use xbox fitness while i play with the kids then she plays with them so i can have some gaming time. The xbox worked so well in my house that i just ordered a second one with the digital titanfall game. So since its digital i can have 2 people play on the one copy so when friends come over we can both play it, on the one digital copy. It wouldn't surprise me if i wind up with like 4-5 of them eventually. Maybe one day when you grow older you'll understand.

Edit: not to mention if the kids don't wanna get away from the TV to eat/shower/homework/bed time etc a simple "xbox turn off" does the trick

wow you're so mature n coooool. why are u even on a gaming forum? go drive your Lambo n shit. You're too cool for gaming, i'd suggest Golf.

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@Shewgenja said:

@locopatho said:

I feel like some Cow found a magic lamp about a year ago.

A genie popped out and offered 3 wishes.

The Cows first wish was for a billion wishes.

Since then he has constantly been wishing new types and heights of idiocy, failure and disaster on Microsoft and the Xbox One.

From the name, to the all digital focus, to the pathetic 180, to the media focus, to worthless Kinect integration, to the price, to the flopping exclusives, to the inferior multiplats, to idiotic PR statements, to this.

Seriously, I just can't believe MS went from the brilliant 360 to this pile of utter garbage and utterly destroyed every bit of goodwill they had painstakingly built up over the past decade. There had to be genies, or voodoo, or witchcraft. At least they fixed the d pad though :P

Nope, it's the direction they went in with the launch of Kinect. No genie needed. The Lems GLEEFULLY clapped their hands in excitement while MS left the core fanbase coughing and wheezing in a dust cloud. 2009 was a bitch.

No, that was you.

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#90 locopatho
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@I_can_haz said:

@locopatho said:

I feel like some Cow found a magic lamp about a year ago.

A genie popped out and offered 3 wishes.

The Cows first wish was for a billion wishes.

Since then he has constantly been wishing new types and heights of idiocy, failure and disaster on Microsoft and the Xbox One.

From the name, to the all digital focus, to the pathetic 180, to the media focus, to worthless Kinect integration, to the price, to the flopping exclusives, to the inferior multiplats, to idiotic PR statements, to this.

Seriously, I just can't believe MS went from the brilliant 360 to this pile of utter garbage and utterly destroyed every bit of goodwill they had painstakingly built up over the past decade. There had to be genies, or voodoo, or witchcraft. At least they fixed the d pad though :P

That genie for cows was Lord Kaz.

Pretty much. MS fucking everything up is one thing, Sony doing everything right was the other side of the story.

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#91 Shewgenja
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Remember when the Lems swore up and down this would not be a cable TV machine? lol

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Consoles go down in price after release, early adopters usually get screwed, why is this news?.

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#93  Edited By darkangel115
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@silversix_ said:

@darkangel115 said:

@silversix_ said:

@darkangel115 said:

@tyloss said:

@silversix_: For an active young adult, the Xbox one serves no purpose.

For the full grown adult with 2 kids a house and a full time job and a wife that works a full time job, it sure has done wonders for me ;)

Like watching movies on Netflix which is done better on ps4 for lower price. Xbox One does nothing well but collect dust in your room.

my PS4 collects dust for me. And not because it isn't a good system, there is just nothing to play on it. And honestly thats fine and to be expected. Its not my 1st console launch that's why i get both. I'm not gonna trash sony for it. Also i have like 20 devices that play netflix in my house lol. Why would i care about the PS4 playing netflix? I use apple tv for that and its way better then the PS4 and X1 do. and it was a 100 dollar device. It also lets me mirror screens on my ipad/ipods/iphone. Which is great when using other apps. I can run HBO go on it as well, something the X1 and PS4 can't do. Point is who cares. IDK what you little whiny kids like to find these little things and complain about. You should get outside more. I'm sorry but for me to turn everything on when i get home without looking for a remote that who knows where my wife left it is awesome. also to see my kids say "xbox go to nick jr" is awesome and cute. To see my wife use xbox fitness while i play with the kids then she plays with them so i can have some gaming time. The xbox worked so well in my house that i just ordered a second one with the digital titanfall game. So since its digital i can have 2 people play on the one copy so when friends come over we can both play it, on the one digital copy. It wouldn't surprise me if i wind up with like 4-5 of them eventually. Maybe one day when you grow older you'll understand.

Edit: not to mention if the kids don't wanna get away from the TV to eat/shower/homework/bed time etc a simple "xbox turn off" does the trick

wow you're so mature n coooool. why are u even on a gaming forum? go drive your Lambo n shit. You're too cool for gaming, i'd suggest Golf.

lol just because 100 dollars isn't a big deal means i drive a lambo? nice leap there. No i don't have a lambo, but i do golf. its fun and relaxing, but maybe I'm getting ripped off on my clubs, you should tell me that. Oh and the green fees to. And i pay too much for tees because you can buy them at walmart for 50 cents cheaper. Maybe the balls i'm using don't have enough power either so i shouldn't be using them. and i bet my cleats are overpriced and don't' perform as well as others. Yup that's how stupid you sound

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Bombing already. Unfortunately no ambassador program for you guys, only a shitty day one achievement lmao.

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I doubt Microsoft will offer any ambassador esque program. I love my Xbox One but Microsoft has some of the worst PR in the industry, and their marketing is horrible.

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#96  Edited By I_can_haz
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@Snugenz said:

Consoles go down in price after release, early adopters usually get screwed, why is this news?.

They don't usually go down 3 months after release. This is unprecedented, fastest price drop ever. What a flop.

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#97  Edited By TwistedShade
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My biggest disappointment with this drop, is that it is actually Microsoft doing it, not some retailer offering a free game, or a gift card. I don't regret buying my Xbox One as I have really enjoyed using it, but it is very disappointing that people who decided to wait are getting one of the systems top games for free.

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#98  Edited By Riverwolf007
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derp.

early adopters don't care.

if they did they would not be early adopters since you know it is a shytty deal and you are getting ripped.

name a tech or consumer product where early adopters don't get rubed.

go ahead.

name one.

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#100  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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lol no. This is a sensationalist article. It's just a ÂŁ30 cut and most of those early adopters in the UK got a game with their console like Fifa or Forza thrown in. In fact, even now you can still get a Fifa edition X1 for ÂŁ429 (non 'Day One Edition').

As an early adopter, I don't mind, ÂŁ30 is the sweet spot. I can see why they're doing it. If it was more than that I'd be mad, but not over a ÂŁ30 cut 3 months later.