Video games "promote hatred, racism, sexism and violence".

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#51 dezzyfiesta
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Talk about a biased interview. One guy who knows what he is talking about against 3 people who have know knowledge whatsoever about gaming? Or have engaged their brains for that matter, if they had they wouldn't have fallen for Activisions stupid marketing ploy of the "No Russian" level.

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#52 dezzyfiesta
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Mindless publicity whores like that woman should be round up and shot or something...
Someday some idiot like her will actualy manage to sucede in something like this, and some countries are gonna start banning violence in movies and games...

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Australia? Gta was banned there numerous times and Left for Dead had to be neutered. Although they are combating the censorship they have I think.

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#53 Meinhard1
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No they don't. People who are at risk to shoot up a school, or something like that have solitary hobbies like gaming. There's a connection but I HIGHLY doubt there's a causation.
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#54 AAllxxjjnn
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:lol: people still think there is a proven link between videos games and violence.
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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

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#56 Mordred19
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It's not enough for these people to have you agree with them that violent games are not for young kids.

Judgmental/Critical-face: "what kind of enjoyment do you get out of these violent games anyway?"

gee, I don't know, the enjoyment must not be as great the satisfaction and self-importance you feel when you put yourself on some moral high ground and get an audience to applaud you.

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#57 slvrraven9
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they werent even trying to understand his points. they were just bashing the obvious and feeding off of the publics stupidity. she doesnt even understand and he shouldve voiced that, that part in the airport is optional anyway. its a shame that people attach a subject so much so that they close their minds and eear to the points made against it. its like the lady came in there ready to fight and bash...and everybody else came in ready to debate. hnestly the sheer idiocy of the woman made me want to commit suicide...that alone promotes hatred. here we have a typical case of the blind leading the blind
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#58 EVOLV3
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Its really quite annoying when people that have absolutely no idea about the game industry try and preach about how awful and evil it is. What makes it worse is they usually have someone who knows nothing about games either trying to defend them, at least on that show the guy seemed pretty aware of the facts and such.

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#59 ThePlothole
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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

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#60 AmayaPapaya
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IDK why people still argue about Video Game violence etc... ESRB is there for a reason. And Nin. MS, and Sony don't support AO games. Games are doing all they can. It's the parents fault if anything bad happens regarding Video Games to their child.

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#61 good_sk8er7
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I'm not racist, sexist, or violent.. In fact I'm less of each of those things than the average person. This is ridiculous. I don't understand people *shakes head*

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#62 battalionwars13
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I don't hate any race, nor am I sexist and I've never killed any animal (besides bugs :P). I've also never gotten in a fight and realize that violence solves nothing. I wonder where my "video game induced" violence went to, when I've gotten hit before :x.

Their ignorance is acutally quite humorous.

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#63 markop2003
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:lol: "recently been under fire" Anyway it's mainstream TV, they've never been able to really understand videogames or the internet.
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#64 topgunmv
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I have no clue who this person is, therefore I don't care. (not that I would to begin with).

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#65 mccoyca112
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I got fed up as soon as he mentioned children. If they dont want kids exposed to it, then dont allow them to play it. Its the same thing with movies. If they are concerned with children possibly going over to a friends house and gaining access to it, they should still keep tabs of who they hang out with and keep in contact with their parents as well.

Its freedom of speech when it comes to any media. Its up to everyone else to make sure it is monitored in the whatever fashion. Thats my view anyway. As a child, I was well aware of these things in movies, music, and even games but didnt let it change my ethics. Thats because of a good foundation structure with parents and teachers. Its all ratings anyway and Im well past my questionable years.

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[QUOTE="Rockman999"][QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

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#67 zarshack
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No south park promotes sexism, and racism, but in a funny way...

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#68 HaLoMaStErJT
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Those people are so ignorant. They should pick up a video game and actually play it before they can judge it. Games are the same as books and movies, in which they may contain violence, racism, sex, etc. It is the parent's responsibility to decide what games their kids play. There are much more serious problems in society then to worry about something as trivial as video games.

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#69 Rockman999
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Rockman999"] and my BFG9000 :Pprinceofshapeir

How awesome would LOTR have been with that?!:P

Yeah, but there wouldn't be any sequels to Fellowship of the Ring...

Wait that was suppose to be a reference to the LOTR? ......:o
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#70 peaceoutmedusa
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[QUOTE="Fr0wnyface"]

Yeah..video games promote things that have existed for what..10,000 years? Maybe more.

Funny, because I'm not violent, in fact I was more violent back in high school when I didn't play video games. I'm also far from sexist and I'm not racist, I don't look at color. An ignorant POS is an ignorant POS, color does not give him a free pass. Hatred also doesn't describe me.

0 for 4! Nice try, try again!

Its good to look at color, everyone has something different and unique, but its about whether or not you are racist, and you said that you are not, which is a good thing to be. I dont understand how they can accuse videogames for hatred. Videogames are probably the least form of entertainment that performs hatred.
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#71 enterawesome
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That blonde chick pissed me off. "They're interactive, they're addictive! WAAAAHH!!!" Everytime that poor guy with the beard actually raised a point they just came right back up and spewed out more bullcrap. "How can you defend a shoot out in an airport, which is in one of these games?!" "You aren't required to shoot anybody, you're agent there with these terrorists in the airport as it explores the ethnics of war and how- " "I AM AGAINST VIOLENCE IN ENTERTAINMENT AS A WHOLE!" *people clap"
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#72 LOXO7
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I agree with the blond adult woman. Mature video games promote violence. I play for the violence because I can't do it in real life. Well I can but I will be punished, severely. But the point that video game haters always make is the part where they put real life into the video games. Video games are not REAL! "You have the option to shoot down civilians." Wow that's a great complement to the devs who make a game so realistic that a person got confused in which is real and which is video game. I forgot what I said earlier and tomorrow I'm going to buy a pistol, go to my local mall and shoot those darn zombies that plague that place. Mixing real life with video game.

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#73 Shattered007
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Shhhhhh, no one tell them about Heavy Rain!
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#74 ElTriforceo
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Sure I guess. So does TV, movies, books, magazines, and the internet in general.... the point is?

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#75 ElTriforceo
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That blonde chick should crawl back in the hole she came out of. It's unbelievable to me how stupid people can be.... the old man was marginally better but still an idiot. If I had taken a drink for every time the guy with the beard made a legit point and they countered with so BS like "I'M AGAINST VIOLENCE IN MEDIA!" or "IT'S PROVEN FACT THAT VIOLENCE IN GAMES MAKES YOU VIOLENT!" without addressing his point, I'd have passed out on the floor by the 2 minute mark at latest. Yet the audience applauds the morons and boos and hisses at the one with the legit points. He said CONSTANTLY "There is a rating system by law and kids cannot obtain these mature, violent games without permission from parents. Parents just need to not buy their kids the violent video games" yet they ignored it over and over and over.... it's amazing how ignorant some people are. I'm a gamer, I play violent games: I have never been in a fight, I help random strangers whenever I can, I achieve very highly in school and aspire to go to top colleges like Stanford, and I'm on a sports team nationally ranked either #1, 2, or 3. Hmmm, seems like these violent video games are having no negative effect on me.... only effect it ever has is when I find games more interesting than work so I play them instead, which is occasionally.... gaming has become an absurd scapegoat, it's the Israel of media...

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#76 ElTriforceo
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]How awesome would LOTR have been with that?!:P

Rockman999

Yeah, but there wouldn't be any sequels to Fellowship of the Ring...

Wait that was suppose to be a reference to the LOTR? ......:o

I believe they are saying if anyone in LOTR had a BFG9000 everyone on at least one side would have died int he first installment in the series :lol:.

By the way, I absolutely love seeing literally every last person on System Wars, be they Cow, Lemming, Sheep, Hermit, or Manticore unite against the anti-gaming morons. Fight on System Warriors, for although we war, we are brothers at heart, and the true enemy lay just over the hills.

Can I be in a history book about System Wars or something for chronicling the epic unity of all SW :P?

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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

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#78 ThePlothole
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:lol: people still think there is a proven link between videos games and violence.AAllxxjjnn

Well it is a proven fact that you can manipulate "studies" to produce a desired result. For instance you can take a bunch of kids that are known to be violent and ask them if they play video games. Chances are they will say YES. People then take this to mean that violent games make violent kids. When really it is meaningless, since most kids today in general play video games!

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#79 linkin_guy109
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well thats obviously a load of crap, i could argue about multiplayer modes though, but then again i would say that microsoft and sony arent doing enough to try and prevent people from being racist hicks on there online services, its not everyone, but there are a few that tend to ruin the experience for everyone, it would obviously be tough to enforce

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#80 skrat_01
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Irrelevant opinions. Let them banter, as blunt as it is aging dinosaurs only exist for so long.
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#81 ElTriforceo
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]:lol: people still think there is a proven link between videos games and violence.ThePlothole

Well it is a proven fact that you can manipulate "studies" to produce a desired result. For instance you can take a bunch of kids that are known to be violent and ask them if they play video games. Chances are they will say YES. People then take this to mean that violent games make violent kids. When really it is meaningless, since most kids today in general play video games!

Also if you survey 100 kids who play violent video games and there is EVER a run of 10 kids in which 9 of them are violent, you can legally say that 9 out of 10 kids who play violent games have violent behavior, even if those are the only 9 kids out of the entire 100 to be violent, you can take the 10 out of context as long as they were all in a row. Seriously, that's how statistics work, it's where commercials get the whole "9 out of 10 dentists prefer..." crap.

Also if you take, say 10 kids who play violent video games at a young age, then check in on them later in life, and let's say 6 of them show violent behavior, you are legally allowed to say that "60% of kids who play violent games at a young age become violent later," and completely disregard other influences. This is how they get death rates for smoking. At the doctor when they ask you "Have you ever smoked?" if you say "Yes," that goes into your file, then if they check in on you 10 years later and you're dead, they can legally say that you died "because of smoking". It's how they get absurd numbers saying 7,000,000 die a year because of smoking, even if only 10% of those people died because of smoking related issues.

Sorry getting off track about statistics here, just pointing out how easy it is to legally BS stats.

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#82 Metalscarz
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Article is false.

I was full of hate, racism, sexism and violence long before I played videogames. 8)

Sarcasm folks/mods. :)

It saddens me that games are still the crux of evil instead of bad parenting and preexisting psych issues. Just like rock and roll, hip hop, jazz, and "fooz-ball". Games are the devil.

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#83 Mystic-G
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I'd say it promotes celibacy if anything.

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#84 VanDammFan
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People need to quit blaming videogames for something that is "promoted" by every day life.

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#85 W1ckedGo0se
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There is so much violence in our world... If you wanted to protect children from it you would have to home school them and keep them away from the Bible. Not to make this a religious debate, but there is more violence and talk of killing in the Bible then in any game I've ever played.
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#86 KiZZo1
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Question is - do video games make some people violent OR do video games appeal to some violent people (i.e. cause vs. correlation) ?

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#87 W1ckedGo0se
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Question is - do video games make some people violent OR do video games appeal to some violent people (i.e. cause vs. correlation) ?

KiZZo1

I highly doubt there is any scientific support of it being a cause. The shear number of people that play don't have any problem and the few that we hear about on the news are not enough to make sound statistical statements about.

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#88 AdjacentLives
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You guys think most of what kids pick up is from Video Games, movies, tv and what not ? Try high schools now a day. My first year going through grade 8 (3 years ago) I learned how to roll a blunt (pot). When I was in grade 4, I learned what the words d*ldo and blow job was.

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#89 gamedude234
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There is so much violence in our world... If you wanted to protect children from it you would have to home school them and keep them away from the Bible. Not to make this a religious debate, but there is more violence and talk of killing in the Bible then in any game I've ever played.W1ckedGo0se

good point. one of the reasons i'm not religious.

on topic, i wish i could go there and help that poor pro-videogame guy.

and TC, you have my MJOLNIR armor.

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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

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And you have my bow.

C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!

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#91 h575309
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The groups who try to pull this BS off are so hypocritical and narrow minded that it really astonishes me. One part in particular, when the lady mentions in MW2 where your in the airport scene (where your not forced to shoot anyone), and seems to think nothing in movies has ever been that violent. I guess she didnt see Inglorious Basterds (a movie nominated for an Academy Award) in which two of the good guys murder a whole theatre in cold blood. Dont see her complaining about that.

The heart of the problem is these people still think that games are for kids, and cannot be enjoyed by adults. They look down upon them as a form of media. Id also love to know how games promote racism and sexism, because I cannot remember a game that had those issues in it, while movies are chock full of those issues.

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#92 lespaul1919
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umm, I have been playing the most violent and offensive games I could find since I was 8. I don't have a shred of any of those traits. But, that's not to say they might not have an effect on other people, but they didn't on me.

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lololol He's angry because of the titles of the games? Games are good :( lol "you can't stop them from getting a video game, but you can stop them from getting a movie" What a poor argument
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#94 lespaul1919
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I'd say it promotes celibacy if anything.

Mystic-G

lol, good response.

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#95 h575309
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lololol He's angry because of the titles of the games? Games are good :( lol "you can't stop them from getting a video game, but you can stop them from getting a movie" What a poor argumentJandurin
Id say its exactly the opposite. Ive been ID'ed at Best Buy for M rated games, but I cant remember the last time I was ID'ed for buying an R rated movie. Not to mention you can turn on the TV and find plenty of violent TV shows and movies on Cable. Its all a bunch of BS.
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#96 RedruM_I
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One would think that news informing about the blowing of a market place where 100s of people were killed promotes more violence than video games. But that's of course real life so is not not so harmful as a bunch of pixels in virtual scenarios I guess.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]lololol He's angry because of the titles of the games? Games are good :( lol "you can't stop them from getting a video game, but you can stop them from getting a movie" What a poor argumenth575309
Id say its exactly the opposite. Ive been ID'ed at Best Buy for M rated games, but I cant remember the last time I was ID'ed for buying an R rated movie. Not to mention you can turn on the TV and find plenty of violent TV shows and movies on Cable. Its all a bunch of BS.

It's just people commenting on a hot topic without knowledge. This is why I don't watch the news, or tv really. It's full of morons.
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#98 VauxhalI
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Things like this confuse me. Why do they single out videogames when books, television, and movies portray the same exact level of violence, sex, etc? I mean, anyone can go out and buy a book; they don't card you. A six year old could go out and buy The Acid House without anyone raising an eyebrow. At least you have to have proof that you're 17+ to buy an M-rated game. I guess the connection they're making is that when you actually control the act of killing someone in a videogame it's different than just reading about it or watching it cinematically, but that seems like somewhat of a double standard.

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#99 Dahaka-UK
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Game companies need to stick up for themselves when it comes to this ignorant crap these clueless people keep spreading about video games.

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Things like this confuse me. Why do they single out videogames when books, television, and movies portray the same exact level of violence, sex, etc? I mean, anyone can go out and buy a book; they don't card you. A six year old could go out and buy The Acid House without anyone raising an eyebrow. At least you have to have proof that you're 17+ to buy an M-rated game. I guess the connection they're making is that when you actually control the act of killing someone in a videogame it's different than just reading about it or watching it cinematically, but that seems likesomewhat of adouble standard.

VauxhalI
A) they say because it's interactive B) because kids like video games, and they're trying to correlate violent behavior with violent games... though I'd say it goes the other way, and that a more violent person would perhaps be more prone to play violent games rather than violent games. anyway C) you can't really put books in this category... while books are much more affecting than video games or movies, you have to understand the material more before you can really picture the action in your mind. I guess I'm trying to say that you have to already have the capacity to construe what is happening in a book before it can really get you?