Videogames Still Not Art. ( updated )

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#51 -RPGamer-
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How is making games not an art? :|

Hell the name of positions even insinuate it's art. Art director, composers, individual artist positions, writers etc. all are artistic in concept.

And I like how people are cherry picking what art is based on their subjectivity. That's not what defines art, what you think is good enough. :roll:

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#52 Zeliard9
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How is making games not an art? :|

Hell the name of positions even insinuate it's art. Art director, composers, individual artist positions, writers etc. all are artistic in concept.

And I like how people are cherry picking what art is based on their subjectivity. That's not what defines art, what you think is good enough. :roll:

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Yeah, I know, you have to read "Voltaire for leisure" to truly grasp the concept of "high art". :roll: God if that isn't the most elitist thing I've ever read, I don't know what is. I think PhoebusFlows should take a closer look at that Calvin and Hobbes strip I pasted that sarcastically mocked the concept of "high" and "low" art. I'd say Bill Watterson has a much stronger grasp of art in general than Roger Ebert, being that he's an actual artist, and Ebert... is not.

Watterson's belief:

"Furthermore, he opined that art should not be judged by the medium for which it is created (i.e. that there is no"high art" or "low art", just art."

Who's opinion is to be taking more at face value when discussing art, the creator/writer/inkist/colorist of the classic Calvin and Hobbes comic, or a popular film critic?

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#53 air_wolf_cubed
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lolts of video games are art. Yoshi's Island, Okami, Wind Waker are all examples
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#54 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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If you guys think videogames = art, you guys don't know what art is. There's not more than one or two videogames in existance that could be considered art. I bet you guys think music is art too. Which is true to some point, but only classical and similarly composed genres (black/death metal) could be considered art.

EDIT: There isn't many movies to be considered art either.

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I agree with this post, except the bit about black/death metal. I hardly even know what that is.
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#56 air_wolf_cubed
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basically everything in life is art
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#57 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I don't like art, I do like video games, hence, video games are not art.

Not to say I can't appreciate art, I just think that that which is considered 'artistic' is defined as such by those that are more interested in vicarious representations of experience than experiencing the thing themselves.

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#58 Riviera_Phantom
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videogames arent art yet.

Maybe someday, but the only games that have ever made me feel that way towards them would be Sotc, ico, and okami.

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Yeah same. SOTC IS art. Period. I don't care what anyone says. Okami looked incredibly artisitc too. Games like WW and Okami look artistic but when your actually playing the game, SOTC stands out incredibly.