Vita is in real danger

What SW dwellers don't realize about handhelds is that the Japanese are the best when it comes to developing a great handheld game not the Westerners. While PSP have great games made by Westerners, most of the top games of DS and PSP are made by the Japanese like Lumines, LocoRoco, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Patapon, Professor Layton, Ghost Trick, 999, Ace Attorney, the numerous JRPGs, 2D Castlevania games, etc.

Unlike a console and PC gamer who may have a library composed entirely of Western made games, a handheld gamer will always have Japanese games in his/her library.

The Japanese are very important in handheld game development. Vita's launch lineup is indeed very impressive but there's no denying that it's doing badly in the sales department over there.

What does this mean?

Vita's future for Japanese game development is surely affected by its present state even if it succeeds in the West. I don't think top Western developers like Epic, BioWare,etc. would bother to make high quality handheld games. It is still a possibility though. I hope Bioshock for Vita will be a good indication for a great Western support for handhelds. The Rayman Origins handheld versions are already a good start though they seem to be just a port of the console versions.

Anyway, it is the Japanese who always make top high quality handheld games. If they abandon the Vita due to its failure in Japan, they would focus solely on 3DS which is doing better both in Japan and in all regions of the West having a larger market.

What SW dwellers don't realize about handhelds is that the Japanese are the best when it comes to developing a great handheld game not the Westerners. While PSP have great games made by Westerners, most of the top games of DS and PSP are made by the Japanese like Lumines, LocoRoco, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Patapon, Professor Layton, Ghost Trick, 999, Ace Attorney, the numerous JRPGs, 2D Castlevania games, etc.

Unlike a console and PC gamer who may have a library composed entirely of Western made games, a handheld gamer will always have Japanese games in his/her library.

The Japanese are very important in handheld game development. Vita's launch lineup is indeed very impressive but there's no denying that it's doing badly in the sales department over there.

What does this mean?

Vita's future for Japanese game development is surely affected by its present state even if it succeeds in the West. I don't think top Western developers like Epic, BioWare,etc. would bother to make high quality handheld games. It is still a possibility though. I hope Bioshock for Vita will be a good indication for a great Western support for handhelds. The Rayman Origins handheld versions are already a good start though they seem to be just a port of the console versions.

Anyway, it is the Japanese who always make top high quality handheld games. If they abandon the Vita due to its failure in Japan, they would focus solely on 3DS which is doing better both in Japan and in all regions of the West having a larger market.

lordlors

[QUOTE="lordlors"]

What SW dwellers don't realize about handhelds is that the Japanese are the best when it comes to developing a great handheld game not the Westerners. While PSP have great games made by Westerners, most of the top games of DS and PSP are made by the Japanese like Lumines, LocoRoco, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Patapon, Professor Layton, Ghost Trick, 999, Ace Attorney, the numerous JRPGs, 2D Castlevania games, etc.

Unlike a console and PC gamer who may have a library composed entirely of Western made games, a handheld gamer will always have Japanese games in his/her library.

The Japanese are very important in handheld game development. Vita's launch lineup is indeed very impressive but there's no denying that it's doing badly in the sales department over there.

What does this mean?

Vita's future for Japanese game development is surely affected by its present state even if it succeeds in the West. I don't think top Western developers like Epic, BioWare,etc. would bother to make high quality handheld games. It is still a possibility though. I hope Bioshock for Vita will be a good indication for a great Western support for handhelds. The Rayman Origins handheld versions are already a good start though they seem to be just a port of the console versions.

Anyway, it is the Japanese who always make top high quality handheld games. If they abandon the Vita due to its failure in Japan, they would focus solely on 3DS which is doing better both in Japan and in all regions of the West having a larger market.

Coolyfett

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="lordlors"]

What SW dwellers don't realize about handhelds is that the Japanese are the best when it comes to developing a great handheld game not the Westerners. While PSP have great games made by Westerners, most of the top games of DS and PSP are made by the Japanese like Lumines, LocoRoco, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Patapon, Professor Layton, Ghost Trick, 999, Ace Attorney, the numerous JRPGs, 2D Castlevania games, etc.

Unlike a console and PC gamer who may have a library composed entirely of Western made games, a handheld gamer will always have Japanese games in his/her library.

The Japanese are very important in handheld game development. Vita's launch lineup is indeed very impressive but there's no denying that it's doing badly in the sales department over there.

What does this mean?

Vita's future for Japanese game development is surely affected by its present state even if it succeeds in the West. I don't think top Western developers like Epic, BioWare,etc. would bother to make high quality handheld games. It is still a possibility though. I hope Bioshock for Vita will be a good indication for a great Western support for handhelds. The Rayman Origins handheld versions are already a good start though they seem to be just a port of the console versions.

Anyway, it is the Japanese who always make top high quality handheld games. If they abandon the Vita due to its failure in Japan, they would focus solely on 3DS which is doing better both in Japan and in all regions of the West having a larger market.

lordlors

Oh, they were, but then again, they hype everything. Which is fine by me, because it seems it bites them in the butt at least 60% of the time. Then lulz can be had. :D

It has been 1 MONTH!!!!

[QUOTE="lordlors"] They were [QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="lordlors"]

What SW dwellers don't realize about handhelds is that the Japanese are the best when it comes to developing a great handheld game not the Westerners. While PSP have great games made by Westerners, most of the top games of DS and PSP are made by the Japanese like Lumines, LocoRoco, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Patapon, Professor Layton, Ghost Trick, 999, Ace Attorney, the numerous JRPGs, 2D Castlevania games, etc.

Unlike a console and PC gamer who may have a library composed entirely of Western made games, a handheld gamer will always have Japanese games in his/her library.

The Japanese are very important in handheld game development. Vita's launch lineup is indeed very impressive but there's no denying that it's doing badly in the sales department over there.

What does this mean?

Vita's future for Japanese game development is surely affected by its present state even if it succeeds in the West. I don't think top Western developers like Epic, BioWare,etc. would bother to make high quality handheld games. It is still a possibility though. I hope Bioshock for Vita will be a good indication for a great Western support for handhelds. The Rayman Origins handheld versions are already a good start though they seem to be just a port of the console versions.

Anyway, it is the Japanese who always make top high quality handheld games. If they abandon the Vita due to its failure in Japan, they would focus solely on 3DS which is doing better both in Japan and in all regions of the West having a larger market.

Coolyfett

They were. Chances are they weren't Japanese either.

It has been 1 MONTH!!!!

Zaibach

Again, its all gonna come down to how launch goes and post launch for the Vita. Many of the games do cater to the western audiences but with tablets, iphones, etc. all over the place, who knows if the system will be able to hold its own. Shoot, I'm surprised the 3DS did so well.

It has been 1 MONTH!!!!

Zaibach

its the cows turn to get their lashings like we sheep has to deal with. Japan is the hand held capital they sell so well over yonder. If the vita does not do well in japan it better get a hell of a lot of fps games for americans to play.

I don't care handheld gaming sucks.Heil68

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="lordlors"]

What SW dwellers don't realize about handhelds is that the Japanese are the best when it comes to developing a great handheld game not the Westerners. While PSP have great games made by Westerners, most of the top games of DS and PSP are made by the Japanese like Lumines, LocoRoco, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Patapon, Professor Layton, Ghost Trick, 999, Ace Attorney, the numerous JRPGs, 2D Castlevania games, etc.

Unlike a console and PC gamer who may have a library composed entirely of Western made games, a handheld gamer will always have Japanese games in his/her library.

The Japanese are very important in handheld game development. Vita's launch lineup is indeed very impressive but there's no denying that it's doing badly in the sales department over there.

What does this mean?

Vita's future for Japanese game development is surely affected by its present state even if it succeeds in the West. I don't think top Western developers like Epic, BioWare,etc. would bother to make high quality handheld games. It is still a possibility though. I hope Bioshock for Vita will be a good indication for a great Western support for handhelds. The Rayman Origins handheld versions are already a good start though they seem to be just a port of the console versions.

Anyway, it is the Japanese who always make top high quality handheld games. If they abandon the Vita due to its failure in Japan, they would focus solely on 3DS which is doing better both in Japan and in all regions of the West having a larger market.

lordlors

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="lordlors"]

What SW dwellers don't realize about handhelds is that the Japanese are the best when it comes to developing a great handheld game not the Westerners. While PSP have great games made by Westerners, most of the top games of DS and PSP are made by the Japanese like Lumines, LocoRoco, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Patapon, Professor Layton, Ghost Trick, 999, Ace Attorney, the numerous JRPGs, 2D Castlevania games, etc.

Unlike a console and PC gamer who may have a library composed entirely of Western made games, a handheld gamer will always have Japanese games in his/her library.

The Japanese are very important in handheld game development. Vita's launch lineup is indeed very impressive but there's no denying that it's doing badly in the sales department over there.

What does this mean?

Vita's future for Japanese game development is surely affected by its present state even if it succeeds in the West. I don't think top Western developers like Epic, BioWare,etc. would bother to make high quality handheld games. It is still a possibility though. I hope Bioshock for Vita will be a good indication for a great Western support for handhelds. The Rayman Origins handheld versions are already a good start though they seem to be just a port of the console versions.

Anyway, it is the Japanese who always make top high quality handheld games. If they abandon the Vita due to its failure in Japan, they would focus solely on 3DS which is doing better both in Japan and in all regions of the West having a larger market.

DrakesHaloGears

ps3 was garbage untill 2008

[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="Coolyfett"]LOL The Vita does not have any great games YET.....Really.

dontshackzmii

ps3 was garbage untill 2008

As annoying as all these threads may be, the Vita is doing very poorly. And after all the "3DS is doomed!" nonsense that this board went through, I think this is only fair lol.

As annoying as all these threads may be, the Vita is doing very poorly. And after all the "3DS is doomed!" nonsense that this board went through, I think this is only fair lol.

sandbox3d

:? Vita has just turned 1 month a few days ago.

If the JRPGs and the Gundam gamesstill can'tincrease the sales, then lets start talking about the doom and gloom scenario.

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

As annoying as all these threads may be, the Vita is doing very poorly. And after all the "3DS is doomed!" nonsense that this board went through, I think this is only fair lol.

DrakesHaloGears

Hey dont damage control with me bud. I dont give a sh*t either way. I dont care if both systems fail completely, or if both systems sell through PS2 numbers.

I was simply pointing out the stupidity that this board went through with the 3DS and why this board is going crazy with the Vita now. That's just how this board works. There is always that payback time.

If the Vita takes off like crazy and the 3DS flat out dies, I'll be laughing all the same at the ever changing tides of fanboyism.

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="lordlors"]

What SW dwellers don't realize about handhelds is that the Japanese are the best when it comes to developing a great handheld game not the Westerners. While PSP have great games made by Westerners, most of the top games of DS and PSP are made by the Japanese like Lumines, LocoRoco, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Patapon, Professor Layton, Ghost Trick, 999, Ace Attorney, the numerous JRPGs, 2D Castlevania games, etc.

Unlike a console and PC gamer who may have a library composed entirely of Western made games, a handheld gamer will always have Japanese games in his/her library.

The Japanese are very important in handheld game development. Vita's launch lineup is indeed very impressive but there's no denying that it's doing badly in the sales department over there.

What does this mean?

Vita's future for Japanese game development is surely affected by its present state even if it succeeds in the West. I don't think top Western developers like Epic, BioWare,etc. would bother to make high quality handheld games. It is still a possibility though. I hope Bioshock for Vita will be a good indication for a great Western support for handhelds. The Rayman Origins handheld versions are already a good start though they seem to be just a port of the console versions.

Anyway, it is the Japanese who always make top high quality handheld games. If they abandon the Vita due to its failure in Japan, they would focus solely on 3DS which is doing better both in Japan and in all regions of the West having a larger market.

lordlors

[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="Coolyfett"]LOL The Vita does not have any great games YET.....Really.AmazonTreeBoa

Anyway, I strongly believe that Uncharted will be a killer app for the North American launch. But what the Vita needed for a Japanese launch was a Japanese killer app that suited Japanese gamers tastes. As time goes by,and the Vita starts getting Japanese centric games, I'm sure it will start doing a whole lot better. Look at how bad the 3DS was selling when it launched, and then look at it now. The 3DS turned it around from the same position that the Vita is in now. Both handhelds will start to hit their stride, and prove that smart phones haven't killed handheld gaming just yetDrakesHaloGears

Uncharted hardly sells enough on the PS3, what makes you think it will actually sell a $250+ handheld?

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="lordlors"]

What SW dwellers don't realize about handhelds is that the Japanese are the best when it comes to developing a great handheld game not the Westerners. While PSP have great games made by Westerners, most of the top games of DS and PSP are made by the Japanese like Lumines, LocoRoco, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Patapon, Professor Layton, Ghost Trick, 999, Ace Attorney, the numerous JRPGs, 2D Castlevania games, etc.

Unlike a console and PC gamer who may have a library composed entirely of Western made games, a handheld gamer will always have Japanese games in his/her library.

The Japanese are very important in handheld game development. Vita's launch lineup is indeed very impressive but there's no denying that it's doing badly in the sales department over there.

What does this mean?

Vita's future for Japanese game development is surely affected by its present state even if it succeeds in the West. I don't think top Western developers like Epic, BioWare,etc. would bother to make high quality handheld games. It is still a possibility though. I hope Bioshock for Vita will be a good indication for a great Western support for handhelds. The Rayman Origins handheld versions are already a good start though they seem to be just a port of the console versions.

Anyway, it is the Japanese who always make top high quality handheld games. If they abandon the Vita due to its failure in Japan, they would focus solely on 3DS which is doing better both in Japan and in all regions of the West having a larger market.

lordlors

Ever wonder how all the trolls and alt only care about sales and don't target the Vita's software quality? Thats coz Vita has plenty of great games in launch and in the pipeline.

I don't care handheld gaming sucks.Heil68

Then what's with the 3DS behind your back pocket? :P

[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"]Anyway, I strongly believe that Uncharted will be a killer app for the North American launch. But what the Vita needed for a Japanese launch was a Japanese killer app that suited Japanese gamers tastes. As time goes by,and the Vita starts getting Japanese centric games, I'm sure it will start doing a whole lot better. Look at how bad the 3DS was selling when it launched, and then look at it now. The 3DS turned it around from the same position that the Vita is in now. Both handhelds will start to hit their stride, and prove that smart phones haven't killed handheld gaming just yetPillyChickle

Uncharted hardly sells enough on the PS3, what makes you think it will actually sell a $250+ handheld?

Yes, I think the Vita's poor performance and uneasy future is pretty clear at the moment. It really is too early to speculate, but I don't think anyone would be surprised to see Sony someday pull out of the handheld market if the system's performance doesn't improve in Japan. Although, you can argue, there was little reason for 3rd party devs to jump onboard the PSP train either when the DS was doing so much better than it... but it still happened. In any case, Western devs have never been major handheld game developers, and many of them are now using what little handheld resources they have towards making cheap iPhone games.

One distaster (PSP Go) was already trouble enough for Sony. I am concerned, but I figured the dedicated handheld market was shrinking as a result of new mobile devices eating up portable revenue and questioned whether there would be room enough for 2 more devices. In my biased opinion, home consoles really are the best place for the type of "epic, cinematic" style games Sony has become associated with anyway.

I really still think vita should of have a umd drive. Backwards compatibility is important to a lot of people.

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="lordlors"]

What SW dwellers don't realize about handhelds is that the Japanese are the best when it comes to developing a great handheld game not the Westerners. While PSP have great games made by Westerners, most of the top games of DS and PSP are made by the Japanese like Lumines, LocoRoco, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Patapon, Professor Layton, Ghost Trick, 999, Ace Attorney, the numerous JRPGs, 2D Castlevania games, etc.

Unlike a console and PC gamer who may have a library composed entirely of Western made games, a handheld gamer will always have Japanese games in his/her library.

The Japanese are very important in handheld game development. Vita's launch lineup is indeed very impressive but there's no denying that it's doing badly in the sales department over there.

What does this mean?

Vita's future for Japanese game development is surely affected by its present state even if it succeeds in the West. I don't think top Western developers like Epic, BioWare,etc. would bother to make high quality handheld games. It is still a possibility though. I hope Bioshock for Vita will be a good indication for a great Western support for handhelds. The Rayman Origins handheld versions are already a good start though they seem to be just a port of the console versions.

Anyway, it is the Japanese who always make top high quality handheld games. If they abandon the Vita due to its failure in Japan, they would focus solely on 3DS which is doing better both in Japan and in all regions of the West having a larger market.

lordlors

Sony relies on it's games, just wait and see the huge sale spike when monster hunter vita is released.

[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="Coolyfett"]LOL The Vita does not have any great games YET.....Really.

Doolz2024

What SW dwellers don't realize about handhelds is that the Japanese are the best when it comes to developing a great handheld game not the Westerners. While PSP have great games made by Westerners, most of the top games of DS and PSP are made by the Japanese like Lumines, LocoRoco, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Patapon, Professor Layton, Ghost Trick, 999, Ace Attorney, the numerous JRPGs, 2D Castlevania games, etc.

Unlike a console and PC gamer who may have a library composed entirely of Western made games, a handheld gamer will always have Japanese games in his/her library.

The Japanese are very important in handheld game development. Vita's launch lineup is indeed very impressive but there's no denying that it's doing badly in the sales department over there.

What does this mean?

Vita's future for Japanese game development is surely affected by its present state even if it succeeds in the West. I don't think top Western developers like Epic, BioWare,etc. would bother to make high quality handheld games. It is still a possibility though. I hope Bioshock for Vita will be a good indication for a great Western support for handhelds. The Rayman Origins handheld versions are already a good start though they seem to be just a port of the console versions.

Anyway, it is the Japanese who always make top high quality handheld games. If they abandon the Vita due to its failure in Japan, they would focus solely on 3DS which is doing better both in Japan and in all regions of the West having a larger market.

lordlors

[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="Coolyfett"]LOL The Vita does not have any great games YET.....Really.

AmazonTreeBoa

Sony relies on it's games, just wait and see the huge sale spike when monster hunter vita is released.

rastotm

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

Sony relies on it's games, just wait and see the huge sale spike when monster hunter vita is released.

HarlockJC

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

Sony relies on it's games, just wait and see the huge sale spike when monster hunter vita is released.

HarlockJC

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="rastotm"]

Sony relies on it's games, just wait and see the huge sale spike when monster hunter vita is released.

zarshack

I don't care handheld gaming sucks.Heil68

I don't care handheld gaming sucks.Heil68

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] was that confirmed yet? last I heard it was a rumor lordlors