Vita needed a gimmick like the 3DS.

Either that or a much more appealing pricetag. I'm probably gonna get it, but I'll wait for a price drop.

To an extent, this is true. The glassless 3D is still the 3DS's unique hook... what does the Vita have to appeal similarly to the masses? inb4 Dual Analogcharizard1605

Its back touchpad haha. They basically just copied Nintendo and went double touch like they copied analog on ps1 but with two analogs.

I squint and facepalm at some of Sony's moves.

I agree in a sense that Vita needed to do something different since it is trying to be a lesser version of a console but cost the same as a console at the same time. So spend more then a console to play for example a weaker Uncharted game or play the better uncharted game on a console that is cheaper. I just think from everything I have seen Vita is just trying to have console style games but they are just not as good as console games and after adding in add-ons such as memory and the Vita itself it is more then a console.

It is way to expensive. Nearly $400 if you include memory.Super_MooRio

[QUOTE="Super_MooRio"]It is way to expensive. Nearly $400 if you include memory.Digital_DJ_00

Throw in a game and it becomes $400 :P

[QUOTE="Super_MooRio"]It is way to expensive. Nearly $400 if you include memory.Digital_DJ_00

It is nearly $400 if you include a game as well, who is going to buy a handheld without buying any games for it and that's just the wifi version the 3G version based on those prices is already $400 without a game.

For $250 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 2 games

For $350 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 4 games and still have $20 left over for a quick meal

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]

[QUOTE="Super_MooRio"]It is way to expensive. Nearly $400 if you include memory.ImSwordMan

Throw in a game and it becomes $400 :P

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]

[QUOTE="Super_MooRio"]It is way to expensive. Nearly $400 if you include memory.ugoo18

It is nearly $400 if you include a game as well, who is going to buy a handheld without buying any games for it and that's just the wifi version the 3G version based on those prices is already $400 without a game.

For $250 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 2 games

For $350 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 4 games and still have $20 left over for a quick meal

[QUOTE="ugoo18"]

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]

Uh, no? $250 base price, 32GB $100 prce = $350. Nice try. I'm sure you convinced the Vita haters tho.

Digital_DJ_00

It is nearly $400 if you include a game as well, who is going to buy a handheld without buying any games for it and that's just the wifi version the 3G version based on those prices is already $400 without a game.

For $250 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 2 games

For $350 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 4 games and still have $20 left over for a quick meal

Im still not quite sure what the appeal of the 3G version is since 3G can't be used for gaming on it and if i remember correctly downloads are capped at 20mb.

[QUOTE="ImSwordMan"]

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]

Uh, no? $250 base price, 32GB $100 prce = $350. Nice try. I'm sure you convinced the Vita haters tho.

Digital_DJ_00

Throw in a game and it becomes $400 :P

I guess for starting out, but 8 GB can go by pretty fast

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]

[QUOTE="ImSwordMan"]

Throw in a game and it becomes $400 :P

ImSwordMan

I guess for starting out, but 8 GB can go by pretty fast

[QUOTE="ugoo18"]

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]

Uh, no? $250 base price, 32GB $100 prce = $350. Nice try. I'm sure you convinced the Vita haters tho.

Digital_DJ_00

It is nearly $400 if you include a game as well, who is going to buy a handheld without buying any games for it and that's just the wifi version the 3G version based on those prices is already $400 without a game.

For $250 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 2 games

For $350 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 4 games and still have $20 left over for a quick meal

[QUOTE="ImSwordMan"]

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]

How about the Wifi version for $250, an 8GB card for $30, and Golden Abyss for $50. $330. I just saved him $70....

Digital_DJ_00

I guess for starting out, but 8 GB can go by pretty fast

lol thats also true, the same can also be said about some of the apps it will be getting ( facebook, skype, twitter etc)

It has no games that appeal to the mass market.... that's what it needs mostcirclesquare

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]To an extent, this is true. The glassless 3D is still the 3DS's unique hook... what does the Vita have to appeal similarly to the masses? inb4 Dual AnalogSuper_MooRio

Its back touchpad haha. They basically just copied Nintendo and went double touch like they copied analog on ps1 but with two analogs.

I squint and facepalm at some of Sony's moves.

[QUOTE="Super_MooRio"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]To an extent, this is true. The glassless 3D is still the 3DS's unique hook... what does the Vita have to appeal similarly to the masses? inb4 Dual Analogp4s2p0

Its back touchpad haha. They basically just copied Nintendo and went double touch like they copied analog on ps1 but with two analogs.

I squint and facepalm at some of Sony's moves.

Nintendo was online long before Sony was (NES, SNES and N64DD), Snes had a CD expansion before the PS1, that expansion eventually became part of the PS1.

It is nearly $400 if you include a game as well, who is going to buy a handheld without buying any games for it and that's just the wifi version the 3G version based on those prices is already $400 without a game.

For $250 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 2 games

For $350 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 4 games and still have $20 left over for a quick meal

ugoo18

Snes had a CD expansion before the PS1, that expansion eventually became part of the PS1.ugoo18

[QUOTE="ugoo18"]

It is nearly $400 if you include a game as well, who is going to buy a handheld without buying any games for it and that's just the wifi version the 3G version based on those prices is already $400 without a game.

For $250 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 2 games

For $350 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 4 games and still have $20 left over for a quick meal

starjet905

$330 = 3DS bundled with 2gb SD card + 32gb SD card + 1 game

$330 = 3DS bundled with 2gb SD card + 4 games

[QUOTE="ugoo18"]Snes had a CD expansion before the PS1, that expansion eventually became part of the PS1.starjet905

Nintendo + Phillips CD-i still before the PS1

SNES CD addon later became the PS1.

To an extent, this is true. The glassless 3D is still the 3DS's unique hook... what does the Vita have to appeal similarly to the masses? inb4 Dual Analogcharizard1605

I hope I don't get hooked by new system excitement. What Vita needed was a reminder of the Playstation brand. Destruction Derby should be launching with the unit. Sony should also be stressing FPS "anywhere".

SNES CD addon later became the PS1.ugoo18

[QUOTE="ugoo18"]$330 = 3DS bundled with 2gb SD card + 32gb SD card + 1 game $330 = 3DS bundled with 2gb SD card + 4 gamesstarjet905

It is though, isn't it? The system itself is $250, two games lets round to $70, and then add in the memory card. Now, the smart way to go about buying a memory card would be to just be over and done with it and buy the biggest one, or at least the 16gig. That one costs $50?

That IS $400 right there. This is what is swaying me from buying it. Not only the memory card, but if that brick battery thing is available at launch I bet it will cost at least $30.

It is way to expensive. Nearly $400 if you include memory.Super_MooRio

[QUOTE="Super_MooRio"]It is way to expensive. Nearly $400 if you include memory.CajunShooter

And that is the equivalent to buying the Xbox Arcade. 4gb card? Seriously? This is meant to be a multimedia device. Music, movies, internet, and games. Plus, everyone that buys the system is likely going to buy a few games to go along with it.

It is nearly $400 if you include a game as well, who is going to buy a handheld without buying any games for it and that's just the wifi version the 3G version based on those prices is already $400 without a game.

ugoo18

Holy Smokes the 3DS cost $383!

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="Super_MooRio"]It is way to expensive. Nearly $400 if you include memory.Heirren

And that is the equivalent to buying the Xbox Arcade. 4gb card? Seriously? This is meant to be a multimedia device. Music, movies, internet, and games. Plus, everyone that buys the system is likely going to buy a few games to go along with it.

[QUOTE="ugoo18"]It is nearly $400 if you include a game as well, who is going to buy a handheld without buying any games for it and that's just the wifi version the 3G version based on those prices is already $400 without a game.

CajunShooter

Holy Smokes the 3DS cost $383!

3DS comes with a 2gb memory card already as well as the 1.5gb it has in built.

You don't need the 3DS starter kit because the 3DS works without it just fine, you need the memory card to play games on the Vita. You don't need screen protectors and a cleaning cloth because the 3DS works without them perfectly fine.

$160 + $170 = $330

Which is pretty much the equivalent of a Vita Wifi version $250 + a game $50 + 4gb SD card (Around $20 although im sure you can find one for much cheaper than that if you look for it)

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"] Your math is lacking. Vita = $250. 4GB Memory Card = $20. Priced together = $270 not $400. CajunShooter

And that is the equivalent to buying the Xbox Arcade. 4gb card? Seriously? This is meant to be a multimedia device. Music, movies, internet, and games. Plus, everyone that buys the system is likely going to buy a few games to go along with it.

At a system launch I look at the real-world amount I'm going to spend. Everybody I have ever known that plays videogames looks at it this way, as well. Most people generally buy two games and an additional controller at launch, for consoles. Given the poor battery, the pack is almost a must. I bought a 3DS at launch; $250 + $80 in games. $330. Luckily for me, Amazon was offering a $25 credit for the system purchase, plus another one for the games which I believe was $15. That brings it down to $295, which is still very pricey imo. Vita is just outrageous.

[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="Super_MooRio"]

Its back touchpad haha. They basically just copied Nintendo and went double touch like they copied analog on ps1 but with two analogs.

I squint and facepalm at some of Sony's moves.

ugoo18

Nintendo was online long before Sony was (NES, SNES and N64DD), Snes had a CD expansion before the PS1, that expansion eventually became part of the PS1.

Given the poor battery, the pack is almost a must.

Heirren

The Battery last about 4 hours and 30 minutes which isn't to bad compared to other devices on the market.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="ugoo18"]It is nearly $400 if you include a game as well, who is going to buy a handheld without buying any games for it and that's just the wifi version the 3G version based on those prices is already $400 without a game.

ugoo18

Holy Smokes the 3DS cost $383!

3DS comes with a 2gb memory card already as well as the 1.5gb it has in built.

You don't need the 3DS starter kit because the 3DS works without it just fine, you need the memory card to play games on the Vita. You don't need screen protectors and a cleaning cloth because the 3DS works without them perfectly fine.

$160 + $170 = $330

Which is pretty much the equivalent of a Vita Wifi version $250 + a game $50 + 4gb SD card (Around $20 although im sure you can find one for much cheaper than that if you look for it)

Clearly you didn't understand the point of the post. It was to show that the vita cost a certain amount just like the 3DS cost a certain amount. If you are planning to spend more than the price of the system you are buying then it isn't the system that cost more it is your purchase that cost more. Saying the Vita is $400 isn't correct. Saying the Vita+ your other purchases with the Vita will come out to $400 is correct.

[QUOTE="ugoo18"]

Nintendo was online long before Sony was (NES, SNES and N64DD), Snes had a CD expansion before the PS1, that expansion eventually became part of the PS1.

p4s2p0

:lol::lol:

[QUOTE="Heirren"] Given the poor battery, the pack is almost a must.

CajunShooter

The Battery last about 4 hours and 30 minutes which isn't to bad compared to other devices on the market.

I'm not arguing battery life. The battery pack is a useful addition. I'm a fan of it. Bluetooth sucks battery, and I believe local coop uses bluetooth. I'm leaning towards buying one, and one reason would be playing fps/street fighter type games out and about with friends.

[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="ugoo18"]$330 = 3DS bundled with 2gb SD card + 32gb SD card + 1 game $330 = 3DS bundled with 2gb SD card + 4 gamesHeirren

It is though, isn't it? The system itself is $250, two games lets round to $70, and then add in the memory card. Now, the smart way to go about buying a memory card would be to just be over and done with it and buy the biggest one, or at least the 16gig. That one costs $50?

That IS $400 right there. This is what is swaying me from buying it. Not only the memory card, but if that brick battery thing is available at launch I bet it will cost at least $30.

Vita Gimmick = Too damn much!

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="starjet905"]Which is why I said "Sure, it's still expensive. But it's not as much as you make it out to be" in return to your "It is nearly $400 if you include a game as well". starjet905

It is though, isn't it? The system itself is $250, two games lets round to $70, and then add in the memory card. Now, the smart way to go about buying a memory card would be to just be over and done with it and buy the biggest one, or at least the 16gig. That one costs $50?

That IS $400 right there. This is what is swaying me from buying it. Not only the memory card, but if that brick battery thing is available at launch I bet it will cost at least $30.

Wha?! You don't NEED a 16gig card for the 3DS, that's the thing. A bigger card is necessary for Vita because a lot of full fledged titles will be PSN exclusive--Gravity Crash, for example. I stand by what I said and my comparison is completely valid.

It has no games that appeal to the mass market.... that's what it needs mostcirclesquare

Wha?! You don't NEED a 16gig card for the 3DS, that's the thing. A bigger card is necessary for Vita because a lot of full fledged titles will be PSN exclusive--Gravity Crash, for example. I stand by what I said and my comparison is completely valid.

Heirren

I dont know who would want Assasins Creed Revelations on a handheld when you can play it on a nice High Definition TV. simomate

[QUOTE="simomate"]I dont know who would want Assasins Creed Revelations on a handheld when you can play it on a nice High Definition TV. starjet905

[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="simomate"]I dont know who would want Assasins Creed Revelations on a handheld when you can play it on a nice High Definition TV. simomate

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Wha?! You don't NEED a 16gig card for the 3DS, that's the thing. A bigger card is necessary for Vita because a lot of full fledged titles will be PSN exclusive--Gravity Crash, for example. I stand by what I said and my comparison is completely valid.

starjet905

That isn't the point. The point is that many proper games will be released on psn. A larger card will be necessary, and cheaper in the long run.