Vita needed a gimmick like the 3DS.

[QUOTE="simomate"][QUOTE="starjet905"]I would buy Revelations again if it came out on the Vita. The huge high definition TV isn't portable.starjet905

[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

Wha?! You don't NEED a 16gig card for the 3DS, that's the thing. A bigger card is necessary for Vita because a lot of full fledged titles will be PSN exclusive--Gravity Crash, for example. I stand by what I said and my comparison is completely valid.

Heirren

That isn't the point. The point is that many proper games will be released on psn. A larger card will be necessary, and cheaper in the long run.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="starjet905"]And is Gravity Crash 16GB?starjet905

That isn't the point. The point is that many proper games will be released on psn. A larger card will be necessary, and cheaper in the long run.

Considering Sony has already voiced the smartphone cheap game competition, and couple that with them trying to combat the used game market, I'd say it is a very fair bet.

Considering Sony has already voiced the smartphone cheap game competition, and couple that with them trying to combat the used game market, I'd say it is a very fair bet.

Heirren

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Considering Sony has already voiced the smartphone cheap game competition, and couple that with them trying to combat the used game market, I'd say it is a very fair bet.

starjet905

That wasn't in the age of the smartphone. The market is different today.

[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

Considering Sony has already voiced the smartphone cheap game competition, and couple that with them trying to combat the used game market, I'd say it is a very fair bet.

Heirren

That wasn't in the age of the smartphone. The market is different today.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="starjet905"]Do you remember what happened to their DD only handheld?starjet905

That wasn't in the age of the smartphone. The market is different today.

It's a different story now, sorry. Sony knows they must offer smaller, more budget titles in addition to the big ones like Uncharted. It is a rather good approach, imo. A device that offers music, movies, pick up and play games, AND in depth games like Uncharted? In this respect I just don't see how a 4 gig card is sufficient. Knowing myself I'll probably get suckered into buying a Vita if it lands on all these accounts--especially if the music aspect is intuitive like an ipod.

***it is a darn shame this thing doesn't have phone functionality. Imo, Sony missed a big opportunity. The Vita should have been a tablet with bluetooth phone functions.

About the grossly overpriced memory cards. It sucks and I see no reason for Sony to gouge the price like that, but if you take into account how downloading games through PSN entails a discount, you're really not THAT badly off in the end. It still sucks, but there's.... compensation? PraetorianMan

[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"]About the grossly overpriced memory cards. It sucks and I see no reason for Sony to gouge the price like that, but if you take into account how downloading games through PSN entails a discount, you're really not THAT badly off in the end. It still sucks, but there's.... compensation? FlamesOfGrey

I'm not so sure about that. It is certainly possible, but Sony has always priced their products a bit higher than everybody else.

[QUOTE="ugoo18"]It is nearly $400 if you include a game as well, who is going to buy a handheld without buying any games for it and that's just the wifi version the 3G version based on those prices is already $400 without a game.

CajunShooter

Holy Smokes the 3DS cost $383!

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="PraetorianMan"]About the grossly overpriced memory cards. It sucks and I see no reason for Sony to gouge the price like that, but if you take into account how downloading games through PSN entails a discount, you're really not THAT badly off in the end. It still sucks, but there's.... compensation? Heirren

I'm not so sure about that. It is certainly possible, but Sony has always priced their products a bit higher than everybody else.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] They price gouged because they're losing a decent amount of money of each PS Vita they sale. Given the billions of dollars they lost on the PS3, Sony isn't going to just take losses everywhere. I do think they should've came up with something else but I don't work for Sony.FlamesOfGrey

I'm not so sure about that. It is certainly possible, but Sony has always priced their products a bit higher than everybody else.

I'm inclined to agree, and I've shared the same view and posted such on this forum. I forget the prices--how much is the 32gig card? Do we have 'set in stone' US dollar amounts? Because the last I read it was a conversion from yen to dollar, which never turns out to be accurate. I guess I'm just pointing out that they aren't that much more than a typical "sony" line of product.

*any idea what the max acceptable card is?

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

I'm not so sure about that. It is certainly possible, but Sony has always priced their products a bit higher than everybody else.

I'm inclined to agree, and I've shared the same view and posted such on this forum. I forget the prices--how much is the 32gig card? Do we have 'set in stone' US dollar amounts? Because the last I read it was a conversion from yen to dollar, which never turns out to be accurate. I guess I'm just pointing out that they aren't that much more than a typical "sony" line of product.

*any idea what the max acceptable card is?

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] The prices of these cards are insane though. It's obvious they're trying to offset the PS Vita loss on each unit with the idea of knowing most core gamers aren't going to settle for a 4 or 8 GB card. The 4 gig would probably only last a few months and the 8 gig wouldn't even last a year for most core gamers.FlamesOfGrey

I'm inclined to agree, and I've shared the same view and posted such on this forum. I forget the prices--how much is the 32gig card? Do we have 'set in stone' US dollar amounts? Because the last I read it was a conversion from yen to dollar, which never turns out to be accurate. I guess I'm just pointing out that they aren't that much more than a typical "sony" line of product.

*any idea what the max acceptable card is?

I'm guessing the 16gig is probably $70, then. Yeah, those are ridiculous, and people are defending this?! Sony makes good products, but with prices like that--even in trying to recoup losses like you said--simply CANNOT be good for the system. It really alienates part of the market, which is children/young teens with no jobs. The consumer is much smarter these days, and if a parent is going to buy their sons/daughters a portable console and sees these prices? Yeah, no. Not only will they go, "wtf?" but what also factors in is that they simply don't want them carrying around a device worth $400+.

Wow, $100?! Even for myself I just can't bring myself to spend that amount. I've been looking at vita as something to replace my ipod and play games when I'm away from home. At those prices I'm better off buying an Ipad.

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

I'm inclined to agree, and I've shared the same view and posted such on this forum. I forget the prices--how much is the 32gig card? Do we have 'set in stone' US dollar amounts? Because the last I read it was a conversion from yen to dollar, which never turns out to be accurate. I guess I'm just pointing out that they aren't that much more than a typical "sony" line of product.

*any idea what the max acceptable card is?

Heirren

I'm guessing the 16gig is probably $70, then. Yeah, those are ridiculous, and people are defending this?! Sony makes good products, but with prices like that--even in trying to recoup losses like you said--simply CANNOT be good for the system. It really alienates part of the market, which is children/young teens with no jobs. The consumer is much smarter these days, and if a parent is going to buy their sons/daughters a portable console and sees these prices? Yeah, no. Not only will they go, "wtf?" but what also factors in is that they simply don't want them carrying around a device worth $400+.

Wow, $100?! Even for myself I just can't bring myself to spend that amount. I've been looking at vita as something to replace my ipod and play games when I'm away from home. At those prices I'm better off buying an Ipad.

Vita needed to be cheaper. Take a look at the 3DS, the price of it dropped like 60-70€ in my country.

you mean like a touchpad on its back?BrunoBRS

3D- everyone wants to see it pop out at you

Back touchpad- ???????????????????? (seriously what is it for?)

Other than being a handheld on the bleeding edge of technology, nothing.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] 4GB - $20 8GB - $30 16 GB - I forgot 32GB - $100 Those are the final prices for the U.S.red12355

I'm guessing the 16gig is probably $70, then. Yeah, those are ridiculous, and people are defending this?! Sony makes good products, but with prices like that--even in trying to recoup losses like you said--simply CANNOT be good for the system. It really alienates part of the market, which is children/young teens with no jobs. The consumer is much smarter these days, and if a parent is going to buy their sons/daughters a portable console and sees these prices? Yeah, no. Not only will they go, "wtf?" but what also factors in is that they simply don't want them carrying around a device worth $400+.

Wow, $100?! Even for myself I just can't bring myself to spend that amount. I've been looking at vita as something to replace my ipod and play games when I'm away from home. At those prices I'm better off buying an Ipad.

Do you buy a new system without a game? The large majority of buyers are probably going to buy at least two games, plus a memory card. Even with just one game and the measly 4gig card, that is close to $350. Not everybody has to spend $400, but in reality it makes far more sense to buy a bigger card for the system.

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]

[QUOTE="Super_MooRio"]It is way to expensive. Nearly $400 if you include memory.ugoo18

It is nearly $400 if you include a game as well, who is going to buy a handheld without buying any games for it and that's just the wifi version the 3G version based on those prices is already $400 without a game.

For $250 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 2 games

For $350 you can get a 3DS (With a 2GB SD card already) + 4 games and still have $20 left over for a quick meal

Play Super Mario 3D Land and tell me its just a gimmick.