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#1 bigboss5ak
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I was sitting here seeing how much trade in credit I can get on gears or graw 2 or how much I can sell them on ebay because I wanna start pre purchasing some games now. Such as Blue dragon, halo3, eternal sonata and Too human since there being released really soon. Than as i was adding them up I was like hold on why are next gen games 60 bucks again?? I never got a clear cut answer from anywhere as to why. I never really thought about it until now that major 360 games are gonna come avalanche our asses soon. So why??
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#2 HappyInvader101
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because games have been 50$ for too long?
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#3 CJL13
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Games are more expensive to make and companies want a profit.
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#4 Hippostrike
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Supply and demand. The surge of new gamers has made retailers realize that they can jack up the prices of games. In Canada they've been $60 for years. Hell Final Fantasy X cost $80 when I got it.
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#5 Splincir
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Ok, if you are a publisher, and you can sell a product for $50 or $60, and the consumer gladly pays $60, which would you do?
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#6 DeadlyZodiac
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Because people have proven that they're willing to spend that much.
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#7 laughingman42
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Because games cost an obsurd amount to make for the 360 and PS3. I'm just glad they arent $70-$80 because they should be. but thats what all of that $10 downloadable content is for.
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#8 dimar19
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Get a job
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Because people have proven that they're willing to spend that much.DeadlyZodiac


Exactly. Which is why console games next gen are going to be $70 USD or even more. *shudders at the thought*

PC gamers have seemingly always been paying the same prices forever now... and they seem to get the same games that cost just as much to make as the PS3 and 360 games.
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Because games cost an obsurd amount to make for the 360 and PS3. I'm just glad they arent $70-$80 because they should be. but thats what all of that $10 downloadable content is for.laughingman42

I can understand why the ps3 would because of the blue-ray disc but whats the 360s excuse if there using regulars discs??

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#11 Splincir
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"]Because games cost an obsurd amount to make for the 360 and PS3. I'm just glad they arent $70-$80 because they should be. but thats what all of that $10 downloadable content is for.bigboss5ak

I can understand why the ps3 would because of the blue-ray disc but whats the 360s excuse if there using regulars discs??

This has nothing to do with it. Read the other posts about consumers' willingness to pay those prices. There's your answer.

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#12 bigboss5ak
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Get a jobdimar19

I have one but I have other priorities too, its gonna be hard to get most of the games you want even if you do have a job cuz most of the great 360 games are being released too close to each other.

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#13 NaiKoN9293
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because of the never-ending inflation
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"]Because games cost an obsurd amount to make for the 360 and PS3. I'm just glad they arent $70-$80 because they should be. but thats what all of that $10 downloadable content is for.bigboss5ak

I can understand why the ps3 would because of the blue-ray disc but whats the 360s excuse if there using regulars discs??

I'm not talking about cost to manufacture. I think the case cost about as much as the disc to make. I'm talking about the fact that alot of 360/PS3 games cost 10 to 20 million dollars to develope.
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#15 dimar19
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[QUOTE="dimar19"]Get a jobbigboss5ak

I have one but I have other priorities too, its gonna be hard to get most of the games you want even if you do have a job cuz most of the great 360 games are being released too close to each other.

OK. Get a Wii or PS3 and spend 2x60$ per year

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blurays arent even expensive. they cost few cents more than dvd. whatever.
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"]Because games cost an obsurd amount to make for the 360 and PS3. I'm just glad they arent $70-$80 because they should be. but thats what all of that $10 downloadable content is for.bigboss5ak

I can understand why the ps3 would because of the blue-ray disc but whats the 360s excuse if there using regulars discs??

The excuse? You will still pay $60 for them, so they'll seel them for $60.

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#18 PhoebusFlows
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Games were $60 back during the SNES era too. They were not as complex, two-players, not online, not updatable. You pretty much got what you got.

Today the costs of production are much higher. Teams are no longer only 12 people like on Goldeneye 64, they are 120-200 people like on Assassin's Creed. You have to help pay for that, for the R&R, for the extra work put into online, bug-testing, extra features.

We live in a much more prosperous time than in 1990. The $60 you spend today should not hurt you as much as the $60 spent during the SNES era. (perhpas our parents paid for us then so it didn't seem bad? Perhaps you are now older and know the value of a dollar now?) The $60 game is highly justified to me. I can see why they charge around that amount. My only complaint is some games end up only being around 8-10 hours with no online. Now that would make me feel ripped off.

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#19 SegArgyle
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production costs

and stop trading in your games just keep them, you just get ripped off trading them in

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#20 darklord888
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I dunno what it's like in America but I'n Australia all next gen games cost $10 BUT if you look around you'll akways fine them $10 or $20 cheaper and thats when no sales are on.

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because games have been 50$ for too long?HappyInvader101

Dude I remember some N64 games were $70. Some SNES games were around that price also.

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#22 360_Degrees
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I remember the worst price ever was Top Gear Rally for the N64. It was $94 without tax (Canadian), so be thankful its only $60 now.
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#24 SegArgyle
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[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]

production costs

and stop trading in your games just keep them, you just get ripped off trading them in

bigboss5ak

I dont mind trading them in cuz once I get a hold of those games I mentioned I seriously doubt ill look atgears and graw2for very long time. but ill try to sell em on ebay for a little more than id probaly get.

SegArgyle

too bad, I used to trade in all the time till I wished I had those games back, I like to relive the memories

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#26 dark_templar_99
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Developers spend money to make the game. If they are expecting to only sell a certain amount they charge accordingly. Lets say they sell 1,000,000 copies and they spent 10,000,000 to make the game, they could sell them for around 10 dollars each to break even, or 25 and make a 15 dollar profit.
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#27 Dreams-Visions
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they're $60 because we're all idiots who are willing to pay it regardless. Games have been more expensive in the past (Neo Geo, N64). But the fact that PC versions of many of the same games we're shelling out $60 for are between $40-$50 suggests to me that we're simply getting screwed.

If PC games rose in price in a way commensurate with console games, I'd be okay with it...but the disparity there is questionable at best...scandalous at worst.

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Developers spend money to make the game. If they are expecting to only sell a certain amount they charge accordingly. Lets say they sell 1,000,000 copies and they spent 10,000,000 to make the game, they could sell them for around 10 dollars each to break even, or 25 and make a 15 dollar profit. dark_templar_99

The same PC games are $40 or $50. $50 at the very most. explain to me why the developers only seem to think the console versions should cost more money. :|

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[QUOTE="dark_templar_99"]Developers spend money to make the game. If they are expecting to only sell a certain amount they charge accordingly. Lets say they sell 1,000,000 copies and they spent 10,000,000 to make the game, they could sell them for around 10 dollars each to break even, or 25 and make a 15 dollar profit. Dreams-Visions

The same PC games are $40 or $50. $50 at the very most. explain to me why the developers only seem to think the console versions should cost more money. :|

Royalties to Sony and MS for having the games on their Console?
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#30 Kimahriii
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Its because companies are greedy thats all, it costs them the same as last gen they just thought "Hey lets try to get more $$$ cause its next-gen" thats about the size of it.
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#31 choasgod
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Why do americans complain aobut paying $60 USD for a game ...

Here in Australia next-gen games range from $100 (first party) to $109 -$119 ( new 3rd party gmaes) now that the dollar is hovering around $1.00 AUD = $0.84 USD ( give or take 1 cent)

SO yea for 1st party games i pay around $84 US and for 3rd party games i pay approx $92 - $100 per game ...

Now THAT's what i call expensive ...
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#32 helium_flash
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I can understand why PS3 games are $60, but why 360 games when they still use regular DVDs?
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#33 JPOBS
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because 60 is right between 59 and 61.
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#34 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="dark_templar_99"]Developers spend money to make the game. If they are expecting to only sell a certain amount they charge accordingly. Lets say they sell 1,000,000 copies and they spent 10,000,000 to make the game, they could sell them for around 10 dollars each to break even, or 25 and make a 15 dollar profit. laughingman42

The same PC games are $40 or $50. $50 at the very most. explain to me why the developers only seem to think the console versions should cost more money. :|

Royalties to Sony and MS for having the games on their Console?

could be...but I doubt it. some thigns have simply costed more when they didn't have to. Example:

GRAW Chapter 2 update. For PC owners of GRAW, the update (which wasn't exactly the same but had mostly the same things and a host of fixes and patches, weapons and maps) was 100% FREE. For the 360, it was $15. :|

No, there's no justifying that. If the update costs Ubisoft, then spread the cost to all platforms. Don't make the 360 owners pay for the dev costs for all the platforms Chapter 2 would be on. it's really unacceptable.

Even Cliffy B said games shouldn't cost so much.

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Why do americans complain aobut paying $60 USD for a game ...
choasgod

because they're overpriced. your getting screwed with a jackhammer doesn't mean we want to take it just because it's softer here. screwed is screwed.

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[QUOTE="dark_templar_99"]Developers spend money to make the game. If they are expecting to only sell a certain amount they charge accordingly. Lets say they sell 1,000,000 copies and they spent 10,000,000 to make the game, they could sell them for around 10 dollars each to break even, or 25 and make a 15 dollar profit. Dreams-Visions

The same PC games are $40 or $50. $50 at the very most. explain to me why the developers only seem to think the console versions should cost more money. :|

And that is why I play most of my games on the PC. If I can get it for PC (especially fps) then I will. I don't like how every generation they raise the price of games. Its getting ridicilous.

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Welcome to Canada, my good sir.
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="dark_templar_99"]Developers spend money to make the game. If they are expecting to only sell a certain amount they charge accordingly. Lets say they sell 1,000,000 copies and they spent 10,000,000 to make the game, they could sell them for around 10 dollars each to break even, or 25 and make a 15 dollar profit. youngtongue

The same PC games are $40 or $50. $50 at the very most. explain to me why the developers only seem to think the console versions should cost more money. :|

And that is why I play most of my games on the PC. If I can get it for PC (especially fps) then I will. I don't like how every generation they raise the price of games. Its getting ridicilous.

there really are no legit excuses if they're going to make the same or better games and charge less for them on PC. Crysis will redefine gaming graphics for probably close to a year if not longer...and yet it will only cost $50.

can't justify $60 on a console game after that. really, it can't be justified now.

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#39 SolidSnake35
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Games this gen are costing the same as they did last gen. I have always paid between £30 and £40 for a new game.
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#40 taidhg
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People are willing to pay $60. It's as simple as that.
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#41 taidhg
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I can understand why PS3 games are $60, but why 360 games when they still use regular DVDs? helium_flash

The content is pretty much the same. What does it matter if the PS3 has a more expensive disk?

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#42 Eponique
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Get a jobdimar19

I'm a teenager, and I've got websites and planned out my future life. Looks like I'll only have $90 disposable income every two weeks to myself :( I kinda spend that much every 3 days...

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because games have been 50$ for too long?HappyInvader101

I thought the N64 ones were $60...:?

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Because people have proven that they're willing to spend that much.DeadlyZodiac

/end thread.

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I was sitting here seeing how much trade in credit I can get on gears or graw 2 or how much I can sell them on ebay because I wanna start pre purchasing some games now. Such as Blue dragon, halo3, eternal sonata and Too human since there being released really soon. Than as i was adding them up I was like hold on why are next gen games 60 bucks again?? I never got a clear cut answer from anywhere as to why. I never really thought about it until now that major 360 games are gonna come avalanche our asses soon. So why??bigboss5ak


:D LMAO. The return of BigBoss?
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#46 osirisomeomi
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Because games cost more to make. A lot more. And, in Sony's case, they're using BDroms, expensive disks for now.
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Because games cost more to make. A lot more. And, in Sony's case, they're using BDroms, expensive disks for now.osirisomeomi


But many of those games and ones of similar development costs/time cost less on PC, sometimes significant amounts less... why is that?
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[QUOTE="osirisomeomi"]Because games cost more to make. A lot more. And, in Sony's case, they're using BDroms, expensive disks for now.foxhound_fox


But many of those games and ones of similar development costs/time cost less on PC, sometimes significant amounts less... why is that?

I've asked the same question here once, and someone answered me "console license". Apparently the console devs eat about 10$ a game for it to be released on their system. Or so.

Btw there was a good discussion about this on gametrailers, lets see whether i can find it again.

Here. And the other parts of Episode 3 are about money too. Might be interesting.

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The reason PC games arent going up in price is cause, if they charged any more it would drive more people to pirate. Most of the people i know know pirate anyways, and iam sure if PC games were 60$ a pop it would drive even more people too. Same thing with game updates and "most" micro transactions.
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[QUOTE="HappyInvader101"]because games have been 50$ for too long?Hewkii

I thought the N64 ones were $60...:?

I never payed 60 for a n64 game.