Wait a second... MGS4 beat Crysis Warhead in bes? Even GeoW 2 looks better. Why?

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#1 akbar13
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Is this the MGS4 I am playing right now that won best graphics for 2008? How did it beat Crysis Warhead let alone Gears 2. The graphics aren't bad but Crysis Warhead? Why did MGS4 win best graphics? That is absurd. I was expecting to be blow away by MGS4's graphics but it looks like junk.


Why did MGS4 win best graphics?

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#2 windsquid9000
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That's why I believe those awards should be taken with a grain of salt.

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#3 nervmeister
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Is this the MGS4 I am playing right now that won best graphics for 2008? How did it beat Crysis Warhead let alone Gears 2. The graphics aren't bad but Crysis Warhead? Why did MGS4 win best graphics? That is absurd. I was expecting to be blow away by MGS4's graphics but it looks like junk.


Why did MGS4 win best graphics?

akbar13

To stir up psychotic controversy here, and it did just that 2 years ago. :P

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#4 RavenLoud
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I thought someone necro posted on a 2008 thread. Then I saw the date. lol

This is Cowspot, doncha know? :P

[spoiler] Just kidding [/spoiler]

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#5 Ultra_Combo
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Why did it score a 10 Gamespot has MGS fanboys simple, and no MGS is awesome .... but a 10 LOL.

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#6 MellowMighty
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Dunno. But im not sure about GeoW2 looking better than MGS... well its close I suppose, GeoW2 looks amazing. But MGS4 would probably win. Vs Crysis though... dunno. They tried it on a bad computer? I assume the awards dont mean quite that i guess... i guess they mean more like what game "looks" the best, not technical graphics? Looking the best is more of an opinion. Crysis being the best TECHNICALLY is not really an opinion.

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#7 Gxgear
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Combination of both technical and artistic point of view.

Crysis was pretty soulless

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#8 Renjinrezo
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Why did it score a 10 Gamespot has MGS fanboys simple, and no MGS is awesome .... but a 10 LOL.

Ultra_Combo

I don't see why it doesn't deserve the score, it's a person's review-- an opinion in other words. You take scores way too seriously...

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#9 Ultra_Combo
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[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

Why did it score a 10 Gamespot has MGS fanboys simple, and no MGS is awesome .... but a 10 LOL.

Renjinrezo

I don't see why it doesn't deserve the score, it's a person's review-- an opinion in other words. You take scores way too seriously...

graphics are factual not opinions , and he asked why MGS4 beat Crysis in best of graphics, because Gamespot has MGS fanboys.

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#10 organic_machine
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This topic is old news. Why are we even discussing this? Oh well, since it's here....

Combination of both technical and artistic point of view.

Gxgear

There were separate categories for Best Technical Graphics and Best Artistic Graphics... so your statement is incorrect.

The only argument for MGS 4 winning is how it optimized its hardware to achieve the visuals.

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#11 surrealnumber5
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Is this the MGS4 I am playing right now that won best graphics for 2008? How did it beat Crysis Warhead let alone Gears 2. The graphics aren't bad but Crysis Warhead? Why did MGS4 win best graphics? That is absurd. I was expecting to be blow away by MGS4's graphics but it looks like junk.


Why did MGS4 win best graphics?

akbar13

pc does not matter, did you miss the memo?

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#12 SPYDER0416
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I think its because Warhead was an expansion and it may have been unfiar after Crysis took that spot. Besides, GeoW2 looks better than MGS4? Are you crazy?

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#13 Ultra_Combo
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I think its because Warhead was an expansion and it may have been unfiar after Crysis took that spot. Besides, GeoW2 looks better than MGS4? Are you crazy?

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Gears 2 does look better.

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#14 Samox
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

I think its because Warhead was an expansion and it may have been unfiar after Crysis took that spot. Besides, GeoW2 looks better than MGS4? Are you crazy?

Ultra_Combo

Gears 2 does look better.



I agree.

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#15 tagyhag
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Combination of both technical and artistic point of view.

Crysis was pretty soulless

Gxgear
You don't count artistic points on a technical award. :P But Crysis, soulless? We must have not played the same game. :o Besides, MGS4 was no Dr. Gachet.
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[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

I think its because Warhead was an expansion and it may have been unfiar after Crysis took that spot. Besides, GeoW2 looks better than MGS4? Are you crazy?

Samox

Gears 2 does look better.



I agree.

i DISagree :) haha!

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#17 Gxgear
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This topic is old news. Why are we even discussing this? Oh well, since it's here....

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Combination of both technical and artistic point of view.

organic_machine

There were separate categories for Best Technical Graphics and Best Artistic Graphics... so your statement is incorrect.

The only argument for MGS 4 winning is how it optimized its hardware to achieve the visuals.

That's all I got, besides the fact that GS favours the underdog picks.

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#18 windsquid9000
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I also wonder how Uncharted 2 won best graphics of 2009 when the PC version of Mirror's Edge curb stomps it- And before you say anything, I'll have you watch this

Wrong tab :oops: I meant this

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#19 HerzogJan
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Cinematic technical achievements?

Or simply the great direction and action sequences that far exceeds the amateurish melodrama of Gears 2.

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#20 AAllxxjjnn
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I also wonder how Uncharted 2 won best graphics of 2009 when the PC version of Mirror's Edge curb stomps it- And before you say anything, I'll have you watch this

windsquid9000
haha, yeh...first person doesn't translate into third person that well. Crysis did alright though.
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#21 Renjinrezo
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[QUOTE="Renjinrezo"]

[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

Why did it score a 10 Gamespot has MGS fanboys simple, and no MGS is awesome .... but a 10 LOL.

Ultra_Combo

I don't see why it doesn't deserve the score, it's a person's review-- an opinion in other words. You take scores way too seriously...

graphics are factual not opinions , and he asked why MGS4 beat Crysis in best of graphics, because Gamespot has MGS fanboys.

You implied that it didn't deserve a 10. I disagreed with that and provided a reason.

Also your conspiracy theory is amusing.

On topic: I think this topic was discussed enough in the past, so there's no real point of beating an old horse.

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#22 marcos27pr
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I wish people get inform before they talk

1) Crysis Warhead its a Expansion

2) Gears of War2 all win Grafic Awards ther isint 1 Grafic award ther are abut 52 awards in total some was won by gears 2

as far as VGA am Confuse now PS3 fans always brag killzone2 win that i just check and it turns out MGS4 did so did killzone2 win any grafic award at all ? other then E3 < whit a CGI that was not even in the game LMAOL

Crysis win 2007 and Gears win 2006 The VGA never give the same award to the same game

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#23 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

I also wonder how Uncharted 2 won best graphics of 2009 when the PC version of Mirror's Edge curb stomps it- And before you say anything, I'll have you watch this

AAllxxjjnn
haha, yeh...first person doesn't translate into third person that well. Crysis did alright though.

Yeah... I edited my post.
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#24 akbar13
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I wish people get inform before they talk

1) Crysis Warhead its a Expansion

2) Gears of War2 all win Grafic Awards ther isint 1 Grafic award ther are abut 52 awards in total some was won by gears 2

as far as VGA am Confuse now PS3 fans always brag killzone2 win that i just check and it turns out MGS4 did so did killzone2 win any grafic award at all ? other then E3 < whit a CGI that was not even in the game LMAOL

Crysis win 2007 and Gears win 2006 The VGA never give the same award to the same game

marcos27pr
Im not talking about VGA... Im talking about Gamespot.
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#25 beinss
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Have you played MGS4? Its easily the best looking game ive played. (I havent played Crysis 2 but eh, the first one was super boring) Part of the reason MGs4 has the best graphics in my opinion is because Kojima didnt only make the game look great but they did so down to the very tiniest details. I love popping off random shots and watching each individual casing eject out of the gun and hit the floor with their own unique sound and just lay there without disappearing. Tiny touches like that make it amazing for me. IDK you have to look at more than just how the surface looks when you actually consider graphics details.
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#26 psn8214
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MGS4 is actually a good looking game... the attention to detail was certainly there. Not Crysis level, mind you, but bad by no means.

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You're a bit late to the party. Yes, we all (save the hardcore cows) understood the idiocy surrounding it. :P
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#28 marcos27pr
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Have you played MGS4? Its easily the best looking game ive played. (I havent played Crysis 2 but eh, the first one was super boring) Part of the reason MGs4 has the best graphics in my opinion is because Kojima didnt only make the game look great but they did so down to the very tiniest details. I love popping off random shots and watching each individual casing eject out of the gun and hit the floor with their own unique sound and just lay there without disappearing. Tiny touches like that make it amazing for me. IDK you have to look at more than just how the surface looks when you actually consider graphics details. beinss

LOL if you play Crysis or gears of war2 you wold get a wakeup call on what detail means

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#29 Anjunaddict
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Yeah it does seem silly. MGS4 is a good looking game, but its not up there with the elite like Gears, Uncharted, God of War etc. To say it beats Crysis is just ludicrous .... unless you're talking art style only, in which case its all subjective.

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#30 67gt500
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It was Best Technical Graphics, and the decision was formed on the basis that it was the most impressive offering that year considering the hardware it was running on...
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#31 TheSterls
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I dont know if I would say GeoW 2 looks better. MGS4 still has some of the best character models in the business.

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#32 mccoyca112
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Combination of both technical and artistic point of view.

Crysis was pretty soulless

Gxgear

You lost me there. You got the first part right though. Still, people get worked up over the smallest things.

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#33 flashn00b
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Has Gamespot even played Crysis Warhead on maximum settings?

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#34 StealthSting
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... you have to admit. The beauty and the beast gals were hot. They were impressive from a graphical standpoint, minus the faces... nobody liked those faces...

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#35 Ultra_Combo
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It was Best Technical Graphics, and the decision was formed on the basis that it was the most impressive offering that year considering the hardware it was running on...67gt500

That's a lame excuse from GS, as it really wasn't that impressive considering what the PS3 has put out since. Like I said GS are MGS fanboys, then again I guess they have to come up with an excuse every year the PC doesn't win.

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#36 x8VXU6
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Why did it score a 10 Gamespot has MGS fanboys simple, and no MGS is awesome .... but a 10 LOL.

Ultra_Combo

why it doesnt deserve 10 and if u say u watch it more than u play it then I can tell ur not a MGS fan

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#37 mitu123
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The PS3 won that year and they needed a exclusive for the hell of it.

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#38 Ultra_Combo
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[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

Why did it score a 10 Gamespot has MGS fanboys simple, and no MGS is awesome .... but a 10 LOL.

x8VXU6

why it doesnt deserve 10 and if u say u watch it more than u play it then I can tell ur not a MGS fan

I don't think any game deserves a 10, heck even a 9.9 I could agree with but no game is perfect and I don't care what GS defines as a 10.

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#39 RichardStallman
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Because GS is a console site.
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[QUOTE="beinss"]Have you played MGS4? Its easily the best looking game ive played. (I havent played Crysis 2 but eh, the first one was super boring) Part of the reason MGs4 has the best graphics in my opinion is because Kojima didnt only make the game look great but they did so down to the very tiniest details. I love popping off random shots and watching each individual casing eject out of the gun and hit the floor with their own unique sound and just lay there without disappearing. Tiny touches like that make it amazing for me. IDK you have to look at more than just how the surface looks when you actually consider graphics details. marcos27pr

LOL! If you play Crysis or purchased a PS3,you would get a wake-up call on what detail means.

Fixed your grammar, and your statement. Visually, Gears of War 2 isn't anything to get excited about, since MGS4, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, and now God of War 3 all look better than it.

Fun game? Yes, but it's not that much of a technical marvel compared to other games that have exceeded it.

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#41 johnlennon28
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because mgs4's graphics is not very brightly shiny or gloomy like they're covered with hot oil like most games this gen
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#42 imprezawrx500
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it's called the hype train, probably because crysis wont it in 2007 and gears had won it in 2006.
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#43 imprezawrx500
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Combination of both technical and artistic point of view.

Crysis was pretty soulless

Gxgear
there should be nothing artistic about technical graphic awards.
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#44 St_muscat
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I thought we finally got over this after months and months of threads like this in 2008, apparently not. It's 2010 and some people are still bitter about it, System Wars at its best and worst right here :P.

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#45 Lantern-Cusp
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Is this the MGS4 I am playing right now that won best graphics for 2008? How did it beat Crysis Warhead let alone Gears 2. The graphics aren't bad but Crysis Warhead? Why did MGS4 win best graphics? That is absurd. I was expecting to be blow away by MGS4's graphics but it looks like junk.


Why did MGS4 win best graphics?

akbar13



ok wait a second here.....i can understand you questioning the comparison to crysis, but calling MGS4 graphics junk is ridiculouslyignorant and flat out absurd.

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#46 The_saint1976
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MGS4 is still the best looking game out imo, and Yes I have played and Platinum'd the other 2 so called Console Graphics Kings, UC2 & KZ2.

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#47 Cherokee_Jack
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Yep. The justification was that MGS4 pushed the PS3 more than any other game did for its platform that year, including Crysis. Of course, those criteria will never apply to Wii or handheld games, or niche PC games, because only multi-million selling mainstream HD games are worthy of awards.
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#48 Bread_or_Decide
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Maybe because in MGS4 you actually cared about what you were seeing AND it looked amazing.
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#49 DEATH775
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To me Crysis looks better. But MGS4 still is awesome.
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#50 SecretPolice
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Sony pays the big bucks me thinks. :P