Wait.. Why is the PS3 outselling the 360 every month?!

What if say, because of space reasons, you had to run your cables by stuff like that. My game room is awesome but really cozy and while I do not have that problem lets say I did. Would a cable with more insulation be desirable?Coyo7e

It is much, much harder to degrade a digital signal. do you have a network cable? has it interfered with that signal? now you have you're answer :D

A bit of info that I don't think some of you are not aware of, is that every ps3 built, Sony considers that a sale when releasing numbers. This is before it's shipped to retailers, or actually sold to the public. So I wouldn't put too much weight into sites like VGChartz.

If you are going to watch numbers, watch NPD or Chart Track. Not a free website with a guy sitting in his basement pulling numbers out of thin air.

A bit of info that I don't think some of you are not aware of, is that every ps3 built, Sony considers that a sale when releasing numbers. This is before it's shipped to retailers, or actually sold to the public. So I wouldn't put too much weight into sites like VGChartz.Soda-Jack

They also have spy cameras and audio listening devices secretly installed in every PS3.

Early this year 360 suffered a shortages.Lionheart08

lol, was that a joke or are you being serious? You don't honestly think it was because they had shortages right?

But to answer the question, it's a combination of things. Brand name, good games (not super great exclusives yet, I'll admit that), and as you said, Blu-ray winning the war increased sales because the PS3 was the cheapest and best valued Blu-ray player on the market. Even to this day the PS3 is the best Blu-ray player value wise.

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]Early this year 360 suffered a shortages.darthogre

lol, was that a joke or are you being serious? You don't honestly think it was because they had shortages right?

But to answer the question, it's a combination of things. Brand name, good games (not super great exclusives yet, I'll admit that), and as you said, Blu-ray winning the war increased sales because the PS3 was the cheapest and best valued Blu-ray player on the market. Even to this day the PS3 is the best Blu-ray player value wise.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Soda-Jack"]A bit of info that I don't think some of you are not aware of, is that every ps3 built, Sony considers that a sale when releasing numbers. This is before it's shipped to retailers, or actually sold to the public. So I wouldn't put too much weight into sites like VGChartz.Soda-Jack

They also have spy cameras and audio listening devices secretly installed in every PS3.

No, I don't own a PS3, I'm a stand alone *** ****

It just dawned on me today that the PS3 has pretty much outsold the 360 every single month this year aside from April where the 360 outsold it by a very very small margin.. I can definatley understand why the PS3 would outsell the 360 from here on out considering MGS4 is out and the 80GB model is back with MGS4 bundle and dualshock 3. BUT the last few months the only PS3 SKU on the store shelves here in the US has been the 40 GB model and NO good PS3 exclusives have hit yet.. So is it because the 360's hardware issues and people are tired of it, or because of blu ray officially winning the next gen format war, I did notice sales really picked up when that happened.. But in all seriousness, the 360 has a very good game library, why has it been getting outsold?!HaloJim79

Umm, because one is a PLAYSTATION, the other is an 'Xbox'. Wait a minute, you didn't actually think the successor to the Xbox, which failed miserably, had even a chance against the PS3? You see, this is whats funny. Somehow - I don't know how, Xbox fanboys convinced themselves somewhere along the line that the 360 was even in the same hemisphere as the PS3.

They must be noobs, or too young to remember the PS1 or even PS2 era. So, let me remind you fanboys, heres how it goes:

1) Sonys rivals 'pre-empt' the Playstation.

2) The rival machine gets a slight headstart in sales.

3) The Playstation arrives.

4) It has slow sales initially, rival fanboys beat their chest and claim victory.

5) Playstation slowly, then quickly, annihilates its rival.

6) Playstation lives so long, and sells so well, that the successor to the previous failed rival is released.

E.g.:

- Saturn failed against PS1, PS1 was so successful it was still selling when Dreamcast was released.

- Xbox failed against PS2, PS2 was (IS) so successful that its still selling when the 360 was released.

And now?

- 360 is failing against the PS3. PS3 will be so successful, the 720 will be released when the PS3 is still going.

And lems, you KNOW its true. You've HEARD the 720 rumours. Y'all know I'm right :D :D

it also managed to outsell the 360 by 1.5 million units in '07, world-widely.

there were no 360 shortages in '07.

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]Early this year 360 suffered a shortages.Soda-Jack

lol, was that a joke or are you being serious? You don't honestly think it was because they had shortages right?

But to answer the question, it's a combination of things. Brand name, good games (not super great exclusives yet, I'll admit that), and as you said, Blu-ray winning the war increased sales because the PS3 was the cheapest and best valued Blu-ray player on the market. Even to this day the PS3 is the best Blu-ray player value wise.

Why do I need to call them, I go to Best Buy and Wal-mart every week. Stacks of Halo edition, Elite......true that's just my stores in my local area but please provide proof of what you say. The entire first half of the year all I heard was how there is nothing available to BUY at the stores lol.....then I go in and see a bunch of consoles. All you people have is PR spin from MS.....I've NEVER seen any public statment from any retailer that there were any shortages for the X360. If there was you would be linking to it.

I'm not giong to say PS3 was outselling it based on it's games, more than likely it was outselling X360 because it was a Blu-ray player and the war ended. But please drop this shortage arguement.......was there a shortage in may as well now?

Dude argue all you want doesnt change the fact that 360 has no good sports,casual,stealth exclusives.And please if you want to bash, bash my post not the lies or advertising sony did we all know they lied.Fact is fact ps3 is a better value than 360 even if you have to buy hdmi cables and a headset

-hells-

i can't believe someone tries to make his console look better just because it comes with included HDMI cable and headset... that's just pretty sad...

standard HDD, WiFi and BD player is far far better than an included headset...

[QUOTE="Soda-Jack"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]Early this year 360 suffered a shortages.darthogre

lol, was that a joke or are you being serious? You don't honestly think it was because they had shortages right?

But to answer the question, it's a combination of things. Brand name, good games (not super great exclusives yet, I'll admit that), and as you said, Blu-ray winning the war increased sales because the PS3 was the cheapest and best valued Blu-ray player on the market. Even to this day the PS3 is the best Blu-ray player value wise.

Why do I need to call them, I go to Best Buy and Wal-mart every week. Stacks of Halo edition, Elite......true that's just my stores in my local area but please provide proof of what you say. The entire first half of the year all I heard was how there is nothing available to BUY at the stores lol.....then I go in and see a bunch of consoles. All you people have is PR spin from MS.....I've NEVER seen any public statment from any retailer that there were any shortages for the X360. If there was you would be linking to it.

I'm not giong to say PS3 was outselling it based on it's games, more than likely it was outselling X360 because it was a Blu-ray player and the war ended. But please drop this shortage arguement.......was there a shortage in may as well now?

the shortages argument is useless.

there were no shortages in '07, and the PS3 still managed to outsell the 360 by 1.5 million units.

My 60yr old uncle bought a PS3! Why? for Bluray of course! it definately was'nt because he was dying ta play Uncharted! I'm very curious ta know the actual Gamer vs Movie buff install numbers fer the PS3.

Early this year 360 suffered a shortages.Lionheart08

[QUOTE="Soda-Jack"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]Early this year 360 suffered a shortages.darthogre

lol, was that a joke or are you being serious? You don't honestly think it was because they had shortages right?

But to answer the question, it's a combination of things. Brand name, good games (not super great exclusives yet, I'll admit that), and as you said, Blu-ray winning the war increased sales because the PS3 was the cheapest and best valued Blu-ray player on the market. Even to this day the PS3 is the best Blu-ray player value wise.

Why do I need to call them, I go to Best Buy and Wal-mart every week. Stacks of Halo edition, Elite......true that's just my stores in my local area but please provide proof of what you say. The entire first half of the year all I heard was how there is nothing available to BUY at the stores lol.....then I go in and see a bunch of consoles. All you people have is PR spin from MS.....I've NEVER seen any public statment from any retailer that there were any shortages for the X360. If there was you would be linking to it.

I'm not giong to say PS3 was outselling it based on it's games, more than likely it was outselling X360 because it was a Blu-ray player and the war ended. But please drop this shortage arguement.......was there a shortage in may as well now?

My 60yr old uncle bought a PS3! Why? for Bluray of course! it definately was'nt because he was dying ta play Uncharted! I'm very curious ta know the actual Gamer vs Movie buff install numbers fer the PS3.

xX0LDSCH00LXx

Very small, considering the blu-ray MOVIE sales are around 45% of the PS3 installbase, and on average dedicated blu-ray player owners have triple the attach rate of the PS3 owners.

Did you wake up today..and thought; "Well (swallows spit) ..i think i'll ask a rhetorical question on gamespot today"

You know the answer. Stop acting like it's some mystery to you.

p.s. I'm waiting for the mods to say i'm trolling.

[QUOTE="xxastrocreepxx"]speaking of sales does anybody remember when the GBA was outselling the PS3 early in its lifetime? That was hilarious.Bluestorm-Kalas

Good one. LOL

It just dawned on me today that the PS3 has pretty much outsold the 360 every single month this year aside from April where the 360 outsold it by a very very small margin.. I can definatley understand why the PS3 would outsell the 360 from here on out considering MGS4 is out and the 80GB model is back with MGS4 bundle and dualshock 3. BUT the last few months the only PS3 SKU on the store shelves here in the US has been the 40 GB model and NO good PS3 exclusives have hit yet.. So is it because the 360's hardware issues and people are tired of it, or because of blu ray officially winning the next gen format war, I did notice sales really picked up when that happened.. But in all seriousness, the 360 has a very good game library, why has it been getting outsold?!HaloJim79

Japan. The PS3 narrowly outsells the 360 in EU, but the 360 generally outsells the PS3 in the UK and US.

Provide proof? Microsoft openly admitted that there were shortages. Do you honestly believe a company would delibrately not make a sale? Jan-Mar it was hard to find a 360, period. Call the stores I posted big man. You're just doing the typical fanboy selective criticismSoda-Jack

So your so called proof is MS saying there are shortages..........just like they said it was "only 3-5% defective rate".

Do you people really believe everything that MS or Sony spew out of their mouth? I remember when a Sony exec told a reporter PS3's were sold out everywhere and then he said ok, here are the stores I called in my area and guess what.....most had a lot of PS3 stock.

It's all SPIN when you are getting your brains beaten out. MS can't admit Sony is finally starting to beat them outright.....no it has to be a mytical shortage that is stopping their amazing machine........if they only had more product out their it would sale.....honestly. Only in May it was outsold by over 20k units in the US alone.........unfortunatley they already admitted the stortages were fixed so it could no longer be used.

A bit of info that I don't think some of you are not aware of, is that every ps3 built, Sony considers that a sale when releasing numbers. This is before it's shipped to retailers, or actually sold to the public. So I wouldn't put too much weight into sites like VGChartz.

If you are going to watch numbers, watch NPD or Chart Track. Not a free website with a guy sitting in his basement pulling numbers out of thin air.

Soda-Jack

What was the point of this piece of info? Even if you rule out VGChartz numbers, the NPD figures (yeah, the one you're telling us to watch) will still tell you that the X360 is being out sold. And NPD figures only consider the number of units sold, not the number of units shipped.

Japan. The PS3 narrowly outsells the 360 in EU, but the 360 generally outsells the PS3 in the UK and US.

dabear

Not this year. PS3 at least in the US has outsold the X360 every month with the exception of April which X360 outsold it by like 2k units.

So generally speaking PS3 is outselling X360 in the US right now as well as worldwide.

[QUOTE="dabear"]

Japan. The PS3 narrowly outsells the 360 in EU, but the 360 generally outsells the PS3 in the UK and US.

darthogre

Not this year. PS3 at least in the US has outsold the X360 every month with the exception of April which X360 outsold it by like 2k units.

So generally speaking PS3 is outselling X360 in the US right now as well as worldwide.

Well isn't that fortunate for you? Are you gaining anything from this? While we're trying to become pretend stock analysts...let's discuss the price of crude oil...and how the middle east is raping our wallets.

[QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"][QUOTE="xxastrocreepxx"]speaking of sales does anybody remember when the GBA was outselling the PS3 early in its lifetime? That was hilarious.Realtop

Good one. LOL

Wow, that's true, didn't notice that.

The question should by 'Why didn't the PS3 outsell everything when it came out?'.

Its because they gave their PS2 fanbase no real reason to upgrade to PS3. PS3 is simply too expensive to purchase and 'wait' while they still had their PS2 to enjoy. And the fact the backward compatibility was half-assed on the PS3, it made them want to keep their PS2 even more.

Now that there is an actual 'must play' exclusive game for the system 2 years later, and the price sort of came down, it makes more sense to buy one.

Well theres only only one good reason i can think of:

More people want a ps3 than a 360 at this time and in the past few months.

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="dabear"]

Japan. The PS3 narrowly outsells the 360 in EU, but the 360 generally outsells the PS3 in the UK and US.

LesFinalFantasy

Not this year. PS3 at least in the US has outsold the X360 every month with the exception of April which X360 outsold it by like 2k units.

So generally speaking PS3 is outselling X360 in the US right now as well as worldwide.

Well isn't that fortunate for you? Are you gaining anything from this? While we're trying to become pretend stock analysts...let's discuss the price of crude oil...and how the middle east is raping our wallets.

I could care less but if someone is going to post something at least be accurate. In this forum it seems it's hard to know what the real facts are because everyone seems to just make up numbers based on their console of choice.

The only thing I'm intrested in is games......which is why I think the Wii completely **** hairy *****.

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="dabear"]

Japan. The PS3 narrowly outsells the 360 in EU, but the 360 generally outsells the PS3 in the UK and US.

LesFinalFantasy

Not this year. PS3 at least in the US has outsold the X360 every month with the exception of April which X360 outsold it by like 2k units.

So generally speaking PS3 is outselling X360 in the US right now as well as worldwide.

Well isn't that fortunate for you? Are you gaining anything from this? While we're trying to become pretend stock analysts...let's discuss the price of crude oil...and how the middle east is raping our wallets.

no one is gaining anything with any of this.

or people gain something by "owning" someone in a games forum?

[QUOTE="LesFinalFantasy"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="dabear"]

Japan. The PS3 narrowly outsells the 360 in EU, but the 360 generally outsells the PS3 in the UK and US.

darthogre

Not this year. PS3 at least in the US has outsold the X360 every month with the exception of April which X360 outsold it by like 2k units.

So generally speaking PS3 is outselling X360 in the US right now as well as worldwide.

Well isn't that fortunate for you? Are you gaining anything from this? While we're trying to become pretend stock analysts...let's discuss the price of crude oil...and how the middle east is raping our wallets.

I could care less but if someone is going to post something at least be accurate. In this forum it seems it's hard to know what the real facts are because everyone seems to just make up numbers based on their console of choice.

The only thing I'm intrested in is games......which is why I think the Wii completely **** hairy *****.

the ps3 is outselling the 360 in the UK actually.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=top_rated&platform=1029&mode=all&sort=score&page_type=games&dlx_type=all&date_filter=all&sortdir=asc

Every 360 game 7.0 and over. Total = 225

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=top_rated&platform=1028&mode=all&sort=score&page_type=games&dlx_type=all&date_filter=all&sortdir=asc

Every PS3 game 7.0 and over. Total = 100

Wow, didnt know the 360 library had so much quantity and quality over the PS3 library. wow thats terrible on sonys part.

Mr_lulz

Gears of War: You mean the game with the 6 hour story and unbalanced multiplplayer?

Mass Effect: Tech problems up the arse and the longest elevator rides in history.

Perfect Dark Zero: Don't make me laugh

Ghost Recon: Good game for its time.

BioShock: great game, but going to PS3

Forza 2: pretty good racing game

Halo 3: Great game, single player was kind of a let down.

Lost oddysy: Good game, but Depressing story.

Blue Dragon: not that good

Ninja guiden 2: not quite as good a the first

Now lets see, notice something strange? most of the games I've listed are :o SHOOTERS:o granted theres a racing game, a few RPGs and a RPG that thinks it's a shooter and a hack-n-slash game. Wow thats some superiority there:roll:

Same reason VHS outsold Beta-Max, when the latter was superior.Verge_6

lol @ 360 being 'superior' to the PS3. The 360 is notoriously the worst piece of hardware in gaming history. And thats just for a start.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Same reason VHS outsold Beta-Max, when the latter was superior.roadkill88

lol @ 360 being 'superior' to the PS3. The 360 is notoriously the worst piece of hardware in gaming history. And thats just for a start.

That wasn't an analogy for the 360 being 'superior'. Sit down.

I was hoping that it was a clear reference to the MARKETING that VHS used to gain support.

[QUOTE="LesFinalFantasy"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="dabear"]

Japan. The PS3 narrowly outsells the 360 in EU, but the 360 generally outsells the PS3 in the UK and US.

SambaLele

Not this year. PS3 at least in the US has outsold the X360 every month with the exception of April which X360 outsold it by like 2k units.

So generally speaking PS3 is outselling X360 in the US right now as well as worldwide.

Well isn't that fortunate for you? Are you gaining anything from this? While we're trying to become pretend stock analysts...let's discuss the price of crude oil...and how the middle east is raping our wallets.

no one is gaining anything with any of this.

or people gain something by "owning" someone in a games forum?

I seek nothing in return, just hopefully attempting to make someone THINK for once. Stop running amok in the forums and just discuss games and consoles. Not sales, and what console is better. It's annoying how people pretend to be some professional analyst. I can't help but say something about it.

[QUOTE="Mr_lulz"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=top_rated&platform=1029&mode=all&sort=score&page_type=games&dlx_type=all&date_filter=all&sortdir=asc

Every 360 game 7.0 and over. Total = 225

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=top_rated&platform=1028&mode=all&sort=score&page_type=games&dlx_type=all&date_filter=all&sortdir=asc

Every PS3 game 7.0 and over. Total = 100

Wow, didnt know the 360 library had so much quantity and quality over the PS3 library. wow thats terrible on sonys part.

angelkimne

Gears of War: You mean the game with the 6 hour story and unbalanced multiplplayer?

Mass Effect: Tech problems up the arse and the longest elevator rides in history.

Perfect Dark Zero: Don't make me laugh

Ghost Recon: Good game for its time.

BioShock: great game, but going to PS3

Forza 2: pretty good racing game

Halo 3: Great game, single player was kind of a let down.

Lost oddysy: Good game, but Depressing story.

Blue Dragon: not that good

Ninja guiden 2: not quite as good a the first

Now lets see, notice something strange? most of the games I've listed are :o SHOOTERS:o granted theres a racing game, a few RPGs and a RPG that thinks it's a shooter and a hack-n-slash game. Wow thats some superiority there:roll:

You are quite deranged. The 360 does not have 115 exclusives. And honestly speaking, it only has like 4 of them that any of us really care about. Seems to be taking longer for great games to get pumped out this gen :cry:. At any rate, it does still have more exclusives than the PS3. However, this is balanced out by the quality & variety of the PS3 exclusives. I would put Bioshock & Mass Effect up against any PS3 title in terms of fun... but MGS4, Uncharted, Warhawk, and Ratchet & Clank pretty much crushes everything on the 360.

[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="LesFinalFantasy"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="dabear"]

Japan. The PS3 narrowly outsells the 360 in EU, but the 360 generally outsells the PS3 in the UK and US.

LesFinalFantasy

Not this year. PS3 at least in the US has outsold the X360 every month with the exception of April which X360 outsold it by like 2k units.

So generally speaking PS3 is outselling X360 in the US right now as well as worldwide.

Well isn't that fortunate for you? Are you gaining anything from this? While we're trying to become pretend stock analysts...let's discuss the price of crude oil...and how the middle east is raping our wallets.

no one is gaining anything with any of this.

or people gain something by "owning" someone in a games forum?

I seek nothing in return, just hopefully attempting to make someone THINK for once. Stop running amok in the forums and just discuss games and consoles. Not sales, and what console is better. It's annoying how people pretend to be some professional analyst. I can't help but say something about it.

not a valid argument. sales are a question to be considered since SW officially decided that both games and sales determine the winner. you remember the official thread that was held for quite some time don't you? Casey made it. if you didn't see it, with the information i gave you, you should be able to search for it on the forum.

Brand power.Haziqonfire

And the PS3 is awsome!!

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="Soda-Jack"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]Early this year 360 suffered a shortages.Soda-Jack

lol, was that a joke or are you being serious? You don't honestly think it was because they had shortages right?

But to answer the question, it's a combination of things. Brand name, good games (not super great exclusives yet, I'll admit that), and as you said, Blu-ray winning the war increased sales because the PS3 was the cheapest and best valued Blu-ray player on the market. Even to this day the PS3 is the best Blu-ray player value wise.

Why do I need to call them, I go to Best Buy and Wal-mart every week. Stacks of Halo edition, Elite......true that's just my stores in my local area but please provide proof of what you say. The entire first half of the year all I heard was how there is nothing available to BUY at the stores lol.....then I go in and see a bunch of consoles. All you people have is PR spin from MS.....I've NEVER seen any public statment from any retailer that there were any shortages for the X360. If there was you would be linking to it.

I'm not giong to say PS3 was outselling it based on it's games, more than likely it was outselling X360 because it was a Blu-ray player and the war ended. But please drop this shortage arguement.......was there a shortage in may as well now?

He's doing the typical fanboy selectiveness?Look who's talking...you mean to tell me, that 360 had shortages every single month of last year SO LOW that there wasn't enough to combat the PS3's low monthly sales last year?We're not talking about a million consoles a month here, we're talking about a few hundred thousand.If your console company can't distribute a few thousand consoles per month every single month of the year, then you know you're supporting the wrong company.Also, 360 had so many RROD's that Microsoft probably had millions of refurbished 360's to push back into the market of gamers hands..

Don't forget Microsoft made Halo 3 specific consoles, the xbox elite consoles, the arcade console, they've had like 3 new sku's released, if anything, their console manufacture rate TRIPLIFIED because of the mass production of these new sku's, think Microsoft would let 360 shortages occur around the time of Halo 3's release?I don't think so..

And you have the nerve to talk about selectiveness, it's obvious which side your supporting everytime you hit the submit button under the post box, just give it up already, the 360's limelight is slowly crushing into lemon juice...

Not brand power, that would suggest that sales are high, but they are not.

It has more to do with people not wanting a 360.

Everyone keeps talking about games. I really think this has little to do with the games (specially the first few months of the year).

It has to do with HD-DVD calling it quits right around the same time. Most people finally started making the plunge (i know a few people who did). I personally use my 60Gb PS3 for strictly blu-ray movies (though i did pick up MGS).

Technically speaking it is the best blu-ray player on the market.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Same reason VHS outsold Beta-Max, when the latter was superior.roadkill88

lol @ 360 being 'superior' to the PS3. The 360 is notoriously the worst piece of hardware in gaming history. And thats just for a start.