Want Proof Halo 3 Will Look Like The E3 Trailer???

This proves beyond all doubt that the Halo E3 trailer was not CGI. 

"We next met with Marcus Lehto, Bungie's art director, who filled us in on the technology as he gave us a fly through of the locations in the trailer. The crater seen in the trailer is three miles across, and it's all rendered in real geometry. Halo 3 has a new global lighting system that now lights everything uniquely from the same source, which explains just how that setting sun looked that good as it illuminated everything in the trailer. Halo 2, on the other hand, used a lighting system that lit everything separately. Meanwhile, parallax mapping is able to give depth to structures in the distance, such as the clouds above the crater. A new particle system offers different levels of light diffusion to take the quality of the atmosphere into account, and that makes for different layers of light.

The demo shifted away from the crater to the part of the level you see the Master Chief walking in from. He was controllable, which means that the trailer indicates just how good the game will look. Lehto was able to zoom in on the Master Chief with the camera, and you could see the many different ways light reflected objects onto him. For example, you could see light reflect off the ground and onto his armor. A new materials system shows the difference between his armor and the rubber undersuit. It's so detailed that if you bring the camera close to the Master Chief's visor, you see everything in front of him reflected in it, right down to the ammo counter in his rifle."

Link to original Gamespot article

This proves that these pics use the in-game engine, they are not CGI.

HAHAHA cows are nowhere to be seen! Good post dude!:lol:pyoob

Anyone with two eyes can see it looks great. We do not need any proof of this. :Pfoxhound_fox

True gamers need no proof. Fanboys are blind to proof. So either way proof is moot :lol:

Games go through downgrades, it just happens. I mean if everyone can deliver on the gameplay graphics everytime then consoles would have to be more powerful.Tiefster

"The thread title and your point aren't the same...."tegovoltio

How so?

I can already tell you what the retorts will be. This article is almost a year old. I'm not kidding. This was from May 06. It's April 07. You're not just a little late to the party, it came and ended already.madcapper248

I'm not late at all, I been posting this since the day the article was released.  Everyone just seems to have forgotten.

It's a shame they didn't release a video of them doing all of this.

[QUOTE="Tiefster"]Games go through downgrades, it just happens. I mean if everyone can deliver on the gameplay graphics everytime then consoles would have to be more powerful.Dualshockin

False! The recent screen shots were taken on the most up to date build of the game on the day they were released. That being the case, the trailer was obviously from an earlier build. 

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]"The thread title and your point aren't the same...."Spartan070

How so?

It's when you fixed it and added the ''wasn't CGI'' part and this doesn't prove it will look like that, not that it's impossible either. 

It's a shame they didn't release a video of them doing all of this.

 

purplemidgets

What can I say, Gamespot has "sneak peek" privilages that us non-company allied gamers simply don't have.

It's a shame they didn't release a video of them doing all of this.

 

purplemidgets

 That's being sarcastic right? because they in fact did release the video on how they made the trailer in in-game graphics.

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]Games go through downgrades, it just happens. I mean if everyone can deliver on the gameplay graphics everytime then consoles would have to be more powerful.bman784

False! The recent screen shots were taken on the most up to date build of the game on the day they were released. That being the case, the trailer was obviously from an earlier build.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Anyone with two eyes can see it looks great. We do not need any proof of this. :PAdobeArtist

True gamers need no proof. Fanboys are blind to proof. So either way proof is moot :lol:

Yeah I guess so.:(  Can't help it though, can't just sit by and let people STILL be calling the E3 trailer CGI, after all this time.

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]Games go through downgrades, it just happens. I mean if everyone can deliver on the gameplay graphics everytime then consoles would have to be more powerful.madcapper248

False! The recent screen shots were taken on the most up to date build of the game on the day they were released. That being the case, the trailer was obviously from an earlier build.

 Maybe he meant Metal Gear Solid 4, although one game goes through a downgrade it doesn't mean all games must.

Yeah I guess so.:( Can't help it though, can't just sit by and let people STILL be calling the E3 trailer CGI, after all this time.Spartan070

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Yeah I guess so.:( Can't help it though, can't just sit by and let people STILL be calling the E3 trailer CGI, after all this time.foxhound_fox

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]Games go through downgrades, it just happens. I mean if everyone can deliver on the gameplay graphics everytime then consoles would have to be more powerful.madcapper248

False! The recent screen shots were taken on the most up to date build of the game on the day they were released. That being the case, the trailer was obviously from an earlier build.

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]Games go through downgrades, it just happens. I mean if everyone can deliver on the gameplay graphics everytime then consoles would have to be more powerful.themyth01

False! The recent screen shots were taken on the most up to date build of the game on the day they were released. That being the case, the trailer was obviously from an earlier build.

Maybe he meant Metal Gear Solid 4, although one game goes through a downgrade it doesn't mean all games must.

And I wonder why some lemmings can't defend Halo on it's own right without bringing another game up, that wasn't downgraded and sound ignorant. Then again Kojima isn't the one bringing up CGI vids. to hype his game on TV. 

yeah so whats the point here ? that doesnt mean it is gameplay footage, in engine doesnt equal gameplay, cutscenes in games look better than the gameplay in most cases even in GeOW. but i still think it will look better than the alpha video, it just wont look like that trailer in gameplay. i think it will look closer to the trailer than the alpha video but we we still be able to see the difference.-Daddy-

The main point was to prove that the E3 trailer was not CGI and the secondary point was to prove that Halo 3 will most likely end up looking exatly like the E3 trailer.

have u seen the new vid doc, i was expecting some sort oif graphical upgrade but jesus it still looks like crapR-Dot-Yung

Have you seen it?  I guess you missed the "alpha build" in the corner that ran the ENTIRE length of the ViDoc.:|

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]Games go through downgrades, it just happens. I mean if everyone can deliver on the gameplay graphics everytime then consoles would have to be more powerful.tegovoltio

False! The recent screen shots were taken on the most up to date build of the game on the day they were released. That being the case, the trailer was obviously from an earlier build.

Maybe he meant Metal Gear Solid 4, although one game goes through a downgrade it doesn't mean all games must.

And I wonder why some lemmings can't defend Halo on it's own right without bringing another game up, that wasn't downgraded and sound ignorant. Then again Kojima isn't the one bringing up CGI vids. to hype his game on TV. 

 There's nothing to defend, the game shall do great on its own, although it seems some cows are thinking that games must have a downgrade now? wonder why... so nice to bring Mass Effect into this as well. Bungie releases gameplay, Kojima simply releases trailers, yea it's so nice neither uses CGI but we know the lesser evil.

And I wonder why some lemmings can't defend Halo on it's own right without bringing another game up, that wasn't downgraded and sound ignorant. Then again Kojima isn't the one bringing up CGI vids. to hype his game on TV. tegovoltio

Have you seen it? I guess you missed the "alpha build" in the corner that ran the ENTIRE length of the ViDoc.:|Spartan070

In game means nothing nowadays. A cinimatic with very high poly models is still a cinimatic, gameplay is waht matters.kittykatz5k

have u seen the new vid doc, i was expecting some sort oif graphical upgrade but jesus it still looks like crapR-Dot-Yung

It was taken from a year old build of the game.

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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]have u seen the new vid doc, i was expecting some sort oif graphical upgrade but jesus it still looks like crapR-Dot-Yung

Have you seen it?  I guess you missed the "alpha build" in the corner that ran the ENTIRE length of the ViDoc.:|

actually yes i did miss that, but how long are we gonna use this alpha excuse

It's not an excuse it's a reason.  I'll stop using it when Bungie stops releasing pics and vids labeled "alpha."

Fanboys have deficient skill in information processing. Whenever they see something, they accept the first thought that pops into their head as truth, and voice it accordingly without considering the alternatives.bman784

No what they have is selective hearing 

actually yes i did miss that, but how long are we gonna use this alpha excuse

R-Dot-Yung

I'm not sure how this could EVER be considered an excuse. Perhaps Bungie is keeping the latest builds under wraps, and releasing this older footage to increase the excitement of the masses. How this doesn't make sense to you I'll never know :?

Underpromise -- Overachieve. That is how Bungie rolls. Sadly, other companies Overpromise -- Underachieve. I think we all know who I'm referring to here. It's the reason I ended up with a 360 and not a 600$ Blu-Ray player.

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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]have u seen the new vid doc, i was expecting some sort oif graphical upgrade but jesus it still looks like crapR-Dot-Yung

Have you seen it? I guess you missed the "alpha build" in the corner that ran the ENTIRE length of the ViDoc.:|

actually yes i did miss that, but how long are we gonna use this alpha excuse

It's not an excuse it's a reason. I'll stop using it when Bungie stops releasing pics and vids labeled "alpha."

So bungie is allowed to say their things are realtime or in alpha

But when Kojima says it, oh it doesnt matter, its a PS3 exclusive its obv. CGI

Personally I can't wait for MGS4, I have money set aside for it.  I'll agree that there are some fanboys who crap on it because it's on PS3.  I think it'll look amazing, probably better than Halo 3.

Personally I can't wait for MGS4, I have money set aside for it. I'll agree that there are some fanboys who crap on it because it's on PS3. I think it'll look amazing, probably better than Halo 3.

Spartan070

The MGS series always delivers IMO... just keeps getting better. But I can't wait for the story to advance from MGS2 as MGS3 was a prequel and I really wanted to know what happens after MGS2 and that amazing ending, long dialogue I know but I loved it