Warhawk Servers..wow, thats alot of PS3's. Microsoft: take notes.

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As I mentioned in my last post, I wanted to give you guys a bit of a "peek-behind-the-curtain," to show you our sweet Warhawk server setup.

Those of you familiar with Warhawk already know that the game features a very unique server method that we call "Integrated Game Server" or IGS for short -- the industry needs more acronyms don't you think

The Warhawk IGS method means that instead of us forcing players to be connected to the SONY "mothership" for any and all games, we instead let players host their own servers on their own PS3s. This is fairly unique and it enables a couple of really nice benefits.

First, since Warhawk is a global online game, our IGS method scatters game servers quite literally into player's homes all over the planet -- the US, China, Europe, Australia, and Japan! No matter where you live, what time you want to play, or what language you speak, you'll always be able to get your game on.

Secondly, this helps with latency. If you haven't heard, Warhawk is a fast game, a very fast game, so we wanted to ensure you had the best chance of finding servers with good ping times. We also wanted to make sure people could host *and* play on their own servers. After all, why should you have to connect to a server a gazillion hops away when you know that there are Warhawk servers running in your state or city? Possibly on your same ISP? Maybe even friends in your neighborhood or buddies in your dorm?

Hence our desire to develop an IGS system for Warhawk.

All that said, we still want to make sure that there are always an abundance of wicked-fast Ranked Dedicated servers available for players. The images that accompany this post were taken by our very talented IT team here at SCEA. And yes, what you're looking at is an enormous server cluster for Warhawk...of rack-mounted PS3s!

During the public beta, many of you wanted *way more* Ranked-Dedicated servers to play on so you could level-up and earn awards, rank upgrades, etc...

Well...ask and ye shall receive!

In addition to players being able to host their own servers, 32-player "dedicated" servers for your clan practices or 24-player "player" servers, SONY has made a great commitment to all of our Warhawk players by staging Warhawk Server clusters similar to this one all over the world.

The system that our IT team engineered for Warhawk is truly killer and we couldn't be happier with the setup -- and hopefully players will be stoked too once the game launches. Just for the record...I am fairly confident that our IT team is not comprised of Autobots.

For those of you who participated in the beta, you may remember toward the end that some players started to "spoof" the official SONY server names -- shame on you. I will find you all online and shank you repeatedly or snipe you in the crotch!

So...in the beta forums you all asked for a way to identify official SONY servers from player servers...Again, your wish is granted.

When Warhawk launches, all official servers are displayed with an eye-pleasing blue color in the server list. This gives players a really quick way of picking which server they want to connect to.

Alright, this post is getting pretty damn long so I gotta wrap it up.

The last thing I want to mention, and those of you who participated in the beta already know this, is that we don't force game match-making on to our players with Warhawk. When you log-in to Warhawk, you get a server list...a *global* server list (with customizable filters of course), just like many of us have come to love from years of PC gaming. *You*, the player, get to choose the server you want to play on. If you don't see a server out there that has exactly what you want...then launch your own.

And yes, you can play on your own server too...even in 4-way split screen.

Well...hope this gives you a bit more info on Warhawk's server system and setup. If you have any questions please post them in the comments and I'll try to answer as many as I can.

Rock on!Dylan Jobe_Game Director_Warhawk

That's how lag-free online multiplayer is done, boys. And that's how you give the people what they want. 8)

No, I still think the game will only get an 8.0 or a 7.5. But the quality of the multiplayer is unquestioned.

Microsoft: please take notes.

Nintendo! Eh...why even bother asking. :?

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#2 Rifle76
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Posted here already

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25834081

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#3 Jamani
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Figures they have so many Ps3's to waste.
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#4 jessie5788
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i'm buying this game. sounds tight.
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#5 marklarmer
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Figures they have so many Ps3's to waste.Jamani

its so they can add it onto the ps3 sales.

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Posted here already

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25834081

Rifle76

If I had the power to simply delete the thread, I would. Ah well. This is Gamespot.

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well i knew they were going to do something to prevent lagg because this is an online only game we're talking about here..
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holy sweet mother of pearl!

can you imagine if those were 360's? fire anyone?

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[QUOTE="Jamani"]Figures they have so many Ps3's to waste.marklarmer

its so they can add it onto the ps3 sales.

Sony Press Release:

We've sold an extra 2,000 units of the PS3 this week.* Clearly the consumer is showing thier confidence in the PS3 as the primier Home Entertainment Solution.

*Extra units sold to ourselves.

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well i knew they were going to do something to prevent lagg because this is an online only game we're talking about here..redandblack23
You sir speak the truth.
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32 Node PS3 Cluster

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-IBM p5 185 head node: dual-core 2.5GHz 970, 2GB RAM, dual 74GB drives.
-32 60GB PLAYSTATION®3s.
-HP Procurve 48 port gigabit ethernet switch.
-Yellow Dog Linux pre-installed.
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-33 Cat6 ethernet cables.
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-20 Hours of technical support.
-RapidMind Cell Development Toolkit, pre-installed.
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Only $52250.00 from terrasoft ;)

well...plus the T1/T3 lines...power, staffing, A/C, surge protection, etc. etc.

I wonder how much it'll cost them to run.

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#13 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="Jamani"]Figures they have so many Ps3's to waste.rykaziel

its so they can add it onto the ps3 sales.

Sony Press Release:

We've sold an extra 2,000 units of the PS3 this week.* Clearly the consumer is showing thier confidence in the PS3 as the primier Home Entertainment Solution.

*Extra units sold to ourselves.

:lol: not unlikely.

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I tthink warhawk would sell...if it wasnt in direct competition wit tiger wood, blue dragon, stranglehold,stuntman ignition, dynasty warriors gundam,and whatever sales are left from bioshock the week after release.

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So... that's where PS3 got all those sales from...

/jk

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I tthink warhawk would sell...if it wasnt in direct competition wit tiger wood, blue dragon, stranglehold,stuntman ignition, dynasty warriors gundam,and whatever sales are left from bioshock the week after release.

killaj2786

I don't think it will sell much at all. It's kinda niche...kinda hard to pick up...kinda not super fun. Wrong time of year for that kind of release. April/May/June would have been a much safer bet for this game. But the Fall? When the heavy-hitters come out? Gotta be a nightmare scenario for the developers. This game will be overshadowed.

I wonder how many sales we can expect.

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Another reason why Xbox Live is a ripoff, even my Microsoft published games don't have dedicated servers.
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If I was Microsoft, I'd buy a lot of PS3s and make a server of my own.

Sony loses like 200 dollars each PS3s they sell, so Microsoft will make Sony lose their money while they are able to build cheaper and more efficient server with it.

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Thats pretty rad. It sounds like no matter what time you wanna hop on and play, there will almost always be someone else on. Being global is awesome! wonder how they are going to deal with the language barriers. Maybe make "chat channels" like in resistance? *shrug*. I am stoked though! the more I hear, the more excited I am!

and looking at those pictures... either that room is VERY well airconditioned and ventilated, or the room is like 200 degrees. lol.

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[QUOTE="redandblack23"]well i knew they were going to do something to prevent lagg because this is an online only game we're talking about here..Jamani
You sir speak the truth.

RFOM is also lag free and its not online only.

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All server rooms are artic cold... At least, the ones I've been in are...
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[QUOTE="killaj2786"]

I tthink warhawk would sell...if it wasnt in direct competition wit tiger wood, blue dragon, stranglehold,stuntman ignition, dynasty warriors gundam,and whatever sales are left from bioshock the week after release.

Dreams-Visions

I don't think it will sell much at all. It's kinda niche...kinda hard to pick up...kinda not super fun. Wrong time of year for that kind of release. April/May/June would have been a much safer bet for this game. But the Fall? When the heavy-hitters come out? Gotta be a nightmare scenario for the developers. This game will be overshadowed.

I wonder how many sales we can expect.

the game comes out this month. last time i checked august was summer

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I tthink warhawk would sell...if it wasnt in direct competition wit tiger wood, blue dragon, stranglehold,stuntman ignition, dynasty warriors gundam,and whatever sales are left from bioshock the week after release.killaj2786

Some of those games are on the 360. ANyone who really wanted dynasty warriors gundam would have imported Gundam Musou from japan in March. It might be in japanese but ive almost beat the game 100%

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[QUOTE="Jamani"][QUOTE="redandblack23"]well i knew they were going to do something to prevent lagg because this is an online only game we're talking about here..Puppa_Shogun

You sir speak the truth.

RFOM is also lag free and its not online only.

RFOM is not lag free. There isn't a lot of lag, but there is lag.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="killaj2786"]

I tthink warhawk would sell...if it wasnt in direct competition wit tiger wood, blue dragon, stranglehold,stuntman ignition, dynasty warriors gundam,and whatever sales are left from bioshock the week after release.

ski11buzz

I don't think it will sell much at all. It's kinda niche...kinda hard to pick up...kinda not super fun. Wrong time of year for that kind of release. April/May/June would have been a much safer bet for this game. But the Fall? When the heavy-hitters come out? Gotta be a nightmare scenario for the developers. This game will be overshadowed.

I wonder how many sales we can expect.

the game comes out this month. last time i checked august was summer

you know what I mean. you don't need me to hold your hand.

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[QUOTE="killaj2786"]

I tthink warhawk would sell...if it wasnt in direct competition wit tiger wood, blue dragon, stranglehold,stuntman ignition, dynasty warriors gundam,and whatever sales are left from bioshock the week after release.

Dreams-Visions

I don't think it will sell much at all. It's kinda niche...kinda hard to pick up...kinda not super fun. Wrong time of year for that kind of release. April/May/June would have been a much safer bet for this game. But the Fall? When the heavy-hitters come out? Gotta be a nightmare scenario for the developers. This game will be overshadowed.

I wonder how many sales we can expect.

if the game is good, it should do ok. remember forpeople who are connectedonline, you don't have to leave your home to buy it, chances are that a lot of people will get it, just because its there. Know what I mean?

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Hmm... Well theres currently 44,466 people on XBL playing Halo 2 right now (nothing compared to what it peaks at) so that would need around 2,779 dedicated servers to run a 16 player servers for all of them... Hmmm.. and even if is was 32 players it would still be a hell of a lot of servers (half.. obviously ).

And expect the number of players when Halo 3 comes out to reach the Hundred thousands, easily.

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360 has dedicated servers too:?

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[QUOTE="Puppa_Shogun"]

[QUOTE="Jamani"][QUOTE="redandblack23"]well i knew they were going to do something to prevent lagg because this is an online only game we're talking about here..Dreams-Visions

You sir speak the truth.

RFOM is also lag free and its not online only.

RFOM is not lag free. There isn't a lot of lag, but there is lag.

I understand that Live doesnt have dedicated servers and PSN does, but lets not go crazy and act like dedicated servers have no lag.

I've played for many years on the PC, many different games on dedicated servers and you will still get bitten by the lag bug here and there, maybe not as much as non-dedicated but it happens.

the major problem with Live is that people who serve have no idea how to. I'll say most games not all, but most games let you know how many people you should serve but they don't listen to the recommendation.

if the system tells you 12 should be your minimun, why make the room for 16.

Listening to a podcast a couple of weeks ago, I think 1up, they were speaking to a developer who has a game coming to the 360 that will have dedicated servers on live. the game is coming to PC as well, just don't remember which one, anyone have an idea what the game is?

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#31 Poop_Slash
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360 has dedicated servers too:?

ProductNumber49

What game? :shock:

why am I paying 49.99$ again? :o :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

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1. who is paying for this? if it's the devs, they have to sell a TON of the game to pay for it. which they won't with the low userbase.

2. it won't last forever. eventually they'll have to pull the plug for the next game.

3. for ALL that, xbox live still has more/better features than the ps3's online.

xbox live is better. ;)

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Have you seen what people have been able to render with Playstation 3 clusters? And that's WITHOUT RSX access. I've seen some sweet stuff built on IBMs Cell development kits.

What would really, really be nifty is if there was a game that could benefit from a PS3 cluster. If it featured full RSX access, wow. I could only imagine. It would certainly put a lot of hermits to shame.

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360 has dedicated servers too:?

ProductNumber49
No. Live seem like a rip-off now, does it?
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Is halo 3 going to have dedicated servers?
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holy sweet mother of pearl!

can you imagine if those were 360's? fire anyone?

R-Dot-Yung

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#37 mamoru
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owh yea~!!!

now i don feel like im such an idiot on buying my ps3~!!! woohoo~!!!

if that wouldve been the xbox360 i say it would b like we were attcked by 10000000000000 nuclear wars because every 10 second a x360 blows up~!!!

hahahahahaahhaah~!!!

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if it's lag free as it says it should be then it'll be worth the 40 dollars
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if it's lag free as it says it should be then it'll be worth the 40 dollarsRagashahs
just because it's lag-free? :?
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[QUOTE="ProductNumber49"]

360 has dedicated servers too:?

Poop_Slash

What game? :shock:

why am I paying 49.99$ again? :o :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

Battlefield 2 mc.

RS:vegas

Some EA games.

Shadowrun

That's all I know till now.

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#41 Poop_Slash
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[QUOTE="Poop_Slash"][QUOTE="ProductNumber49"]

360 has dedicated servers too:?

ProductNumber49

What game? :shock:

why am I paying 49.99$ again? :o :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

Battlefield 2 mc.

RS:vegas

Some EA games.

Shadowrun

That's all I know till now.

R6:V is D/S?

It's just people hosting there own rooms though....

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#42 asdasd
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Now thats a server!
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]if it's lag free as it says it should be then it'll be worth the 40 dollarsDreams-Visions
just because it's lag-free? :?

let's see 30 dollars for laggy warhawk or 40 for lag free? it's worth it
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Is halo 3 going to have dedicated servers?gamindude_basic
Ranked servers on Halo, since 2,have always been dedicated.
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[QUOTE="rykaziel"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="Jamani"]Figures they have so many Ps3's to waste.Dreams-Visions

its so they can add it onto the ps3 sales.

Sony Press Release:

We've sold an extra 2,000 units of the PS3 this week.* Clearly the consumer is showing thier confidence in the PS3 as the primier Home Entertainment Solution.

*Extra units sold to ourselves.

:lol: not unlikely.

Actually, I think that IS the case. From the sounds of it Sony counts every system they make as a sale. So they could set up 10 million PS3s in server clusters if they want to and then they'll say "We've sold 10 million PS3s!!!"

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#46 Blitz_Nemesis
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I bet that room with dozens of running PS3's is quieter then a room with just one 360. If you tried that with 360's the room would burn down or you would go deaf.
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#47 darcom1
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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

holy sweet mother of pearl!

can you imagine if those were 360's? fire anyone?

redandblack23

lol another hiroshima

LMFAO the best answer in a long time

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#48 gamindude_basic
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[QUOTE="gamindude_basic"]Is halo 3 going to have dedicated servers?Fusible
Ranked servers on Halo, since 2,have always been dedicated.

Halo 2 don't run on servers, it runs on the xbox as the server.
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#49 Perception1
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Figures they have so many Ps3's to waste.Jamani

Lol no matter what Sony does, you guys always seek out something bad to say when it's clearly a good thing.

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#50 SambaLele
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holy sweet mother of pearl!

can you imagine if those were 360's? fire anyone?

R-Dot-Yung

atomic bomb anyone?