Wario Land: Shake it! Is this Nintendo's test for more 2d platformers?

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#1 -Wheels-
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I was just thinking about what Nintendo would do for their next Mario game. After Galaxy it's really hard to see what they could do in terms of freshening up the gameplay. Galaxy took Mario to the peek and I really don't see anything topping that 3d wise. Now with a new Wario Land release on the horizon, it has me wondering. Is Nintendo testing out 2d platformers with Wario? Will we see more 2d platformers if the game does well? Perhaps Super Mario World 3?

Discuss!

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#2 Tony-Harrison
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If Nintendo released Super Mario Bros. 4 on the Wii, and it was animated like Wario Land is, I would become quite fanatical.
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#3 -Wheels-
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If Nintendo released Super Mario Bros. 4 on the Wii, and it was animated like Wario Land is, I would become quite fanatical.Tony-Harrison

Ya I know what you mean. Wario is cool and all, but he really can't compare to a 2d Mario universe.

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If it's a test, I will be buying two Wario Land Shake it.
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#5 MagnuzGuerra
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[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]If Nintendo released Super Mario Bros. 4 on the Wii, and it was animated like Wario Land is, I would become quite fanatical.-Wheels-

Ya I know what you mean. Wario is cool and all, but he really can't compare to a 2d Mario universe.

Why? Wario Land is better IMO (platforming + puzzles + exploration), but of course I would gladly welcome a 2D Mario again.
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i would love a 2D castlevania on the wii, as animated as wario land shake, that would be crazy.
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#7 JLF1
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I was hyped about this game until it got a 6 from Edge.
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#8 murat8
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I would love a 2d Mario game with graphics as good as SMG's or better what i mean is everything would be 3d but u only walk left and right like a 2d game
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#9 -Wheels-
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[QUOTE="-Wheels-"]

[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]If Nintendo released Super Mario Bros. 4 on the Wii, and it was animated like Wario Land is, I would become quite fanatical.MagnuzGuerra

Ya I know what you mean. Wario is cool and all, but he really can't compare to a 2d Mario universe.

Why? Wario Land is better IMO (platforming + puzzles + exploration), but of course I would gladly welcome a 2D Mario again.

Well, Yoshi's Island is Super Mario World 2. And that game really hasn't been surpassed in terms of puzzles and ingenuity.

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[QUOTE="MagnuzGuerra"][QUOTE="-Wheels-"]

[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]If Nintendo released Super Mario Bros. 4 on the Wii, and it was animated like Wario Land is, I would become quite fanatical.-Wheels-

Ya I know what you mean. Wario is cool and all, but he really can't compare to a 2d Mario universe.

Why? Wario Land is better IMO (platforming + puzzles + exploration), but of course I would gladly welcome a 2D Mario again.

Well, Yoshi's Island is Super Mario World 2. And that game really hasn't been surpassed in terms of puzzles and ingenuity.

Yoshi's island is one of the best games EVER!

And it was one of my first games i ever played. :D

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I was hyped about this game until it got a 6 from Edge.JLF1

Did they say why?

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#12 MagnuzGuerra
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Well, Yoshi's Island is Super Mario World 2. And that game really hasn't been surpassed in terms of puzzles and ingenuity.

-Wheels-
Yes, Yoshi's Island is good and have good puzzles, but the platformer that hasn't been surpassed in terms of puzzles is Wario Land 3. But I know that Mario games have a wider appeal than Wario Land so I partially agree that Mario is still the "king" of platformers (even if it isn't for me).
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[QUOTE="-Wheels-"]

Well, Yoshi's Island is Super Mario World 2. And that game really hasn't been surpassed in terms of puzzles and ingenuity.

MagnuzGuerra

Yes, Yoshi's Island is good and have good puzzles, but the platformer that hasn't been surpassed in terms of puzzles is Wario Land 3. But I know that Mario games have a wider appeal than Wario Land so I partially agree that Mario is still the "king" of platformers (even if it isn't for me).

Yes, they are both awesome. I just feel like Wario Land is a little more linear and I also wish the games were longer. I need to play more of them still, maybe there are longer ones that I haven't played.

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[QUOTE="JLF1"]I was hyped about this game until it got a 6 from Edge.GundamGuy0

Did they say why?

I will quote you sections in a few minutes.

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2D platformers = FAIL

nothing but rehashes from nintendo

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main negatives quoted:

"Hotfooting it back to the exit is far simpler, often completed in under a minute and reliant only on maintaining momentum injected by cannons handily littered throughout the stage. As such, each level is deigned to be played in two directions, a decision that wows and confuses in equal measure. Motivated by the riches squirreled away on each stage, it's possible to slave away at "solving" part of a level only to discover it's intended to come into play on the trip home. This block can be broken now, that block can't; a sloppiness rare from nintendo."

"But while Wario's physicality reaches new heights, his older abilities die hard. Perhaps taking its cue from warioware, there's a ridiculous turnover of ideas that gives very few the space they need to breath. Nintendo is famed for sprinkling around mechanics other developers would build entire games on, but here the effect is quite irritating. Shrinking machines, snowball wario, a tilt-controlled spaceship, mine carts, flaming wario-some appear for less than five seconds, while bombs and swing vines are regurgitated blandly throughout."

"While seizing a hapless goon and whipping him around is amusing the first few times, the remote-shaking controls are little more than another "flick to make something happen" setup that wii developers seem keen on. Lobbing objects throughout the game involves tiliting the reticule to aim as in yoshis island, but so few scenarios require this move that it's rendered useless for most of the game."

"the side-scrolling submarine sections bring back fond memories of super mario land, but did we need three of them? Wario's tilt controlled spaceship gets a stingy minute onscreen time, despite being more entertaining."

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#17 -Wheels-
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2D platformers = FAIL

nothing but rehashes from nintendo

supermechakirby

:|....K...moving on.

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#18 JLF1
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2D platformers = FAIL

nothing but rehashes from nintendo

supermechakirby

Yes because we have had so many 2D platformers this gen :roll:
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#19 Oroin
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2D platformers = FAIL

nothing but rehashes from nintendo

supermechakirby

:lol: your kidding right? If not, I feel sorry for you

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#20 air_wolf_cubed
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2D platformers = FAIL

nothing but rehashes from nintendo

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Translation: I started gaming in 1997
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#21 -Wheels-
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[QUOTE="supermechakirby"]

2D platformers = FAIL

nothing but rehashes from nintendo

air_wolf_cubed

Translation: I started gaming in 1997

:lol: that is sad but true.

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#22 beast667
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Every nintendo fan should buy like 5 copies of Wario Land Shake it. If it sells, good, maybe ninty will make a new 2d metroid :o
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What is amazing about this game aside from the fact that you do things with the wii mote at certain locations to interact with the map?

I've seen this game. It doesn't look like anything new, aside from new controls tacked onto old gameplay mechanics.

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Every nintendo fan should buy like 5 copies of Wario Land Shake it. If it sells, good, maybe ninty will make a new 2d metroid :obeast667

I would buy a wii for that.

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#25 MagnuzGuerra
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What is amazing about this game aside from the fact that you do things with the wii mote at certain locations to interact with the map?

I've seen this game. It doesn't look like anything new, aside from new controls tacked onto old gameplay mechanics.

hakanakumono
Sigh, have you played any Wario Land before? While it's almost nothing new for anyone that have previously played a Wario Land game, It's a well executed entry for the series, which is terribly ignored because it's on handhelds. For anyone that haven't played a Wario Land before, I would say it's a bit of mario + a bit of metroid + puzzles.
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#26 MagnuzGuerra
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[QUOTE="MagnuzGuerra"][QUOTE="-Wheels-"]

Well, Yoshi's Island is Super Mario World 2. And that game really hasn't been surpassed in terms of puzzles and ingenuity.

-Wheels-

Yes, Yoshi's Island is good and have good puzzles, but the platformer that hasn't been surpassed in terms of puzzles is Wario Land 3. But I know that Mario games have a wider appeal than Wario Land so I partially agree that Mario is still the "king" of platformers (even if it isn't for me).

Yes, they are both awesome. I just feel like Wario Land is a little more linear and I also wish the games were longer. I need to play more of them still, maybe there are longer ones that I haven't played.

Wario Land 2 and 3 are much longer than 4 and Shake it. Actually, Shake it is almost a "Wario Land 4 for consoles", not that it's a bad thing.
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What is amazing about this game aside from the fact that you do things with the wii mote at certain locations to interact with the map?

I've seen this game. It doesn't look like anything new, aside from new controls tacked onto old gameplay mechanics.

hakanakumono
An average GS score of the others is a 9.1 so I think you can tell
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#28 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

What is amazing about this game aside from the fact that you do things with the wii mote at certain locations to interact with the map?

I've seen this game. It doesn't look like anything new, aside from new controls tacked onto old gameplay mechanics.

MagnuzGuerra

Sigh, have you played any Wario Land before? While it's almost nothing new for anyone that have previously played a Wario Land game, It's a well executed entry for the series, which is terribly ignored because it's on handhelds. For anyone that haven't played a Wario Land before, I would say it's a bit of mario + a bit of metroid + puzzles.

Sounds fun.

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#29 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

What is amazing about this game aside from the fact that you do things with the wii mote at certain locations to interact with the map?

I've seen this game. It doesn't look like anything new, aside from new controls tacked onto old gameplay mechanics.

air_wolf_cubed

An average GS score of the others is a 9.1 so I think you can tell

Wow, thats impressive.

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#30 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

What is amazing about this game aside from the fact that you do things with the wii mote at certain locations to interact with the map?

I've seen this game. It doesn't look like anything new, aside from new controls tacked onto old gameplay mechanics.

hakanakumono

An average GS score of the others is a 9.1 so I think you can tell

Wow, thats impressive.

Yup bye
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I would have a heart attack if they announced they were making super mario world 3 in the same fashion as like mega man 9 or something, that would be awesome
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I was just thinking about what Nintendo would do for their next Mario game. After Galaxy it's really hard to see what they could do in terms of freshening up the gameplay. Galaxy took Mario to the peek and I really don't see anything topping that 3d wise. Now with a new Wario Land release on the horizon, it has me wondering. Is Nintendo testing out 2d platformers with Wario? Will we see more 2d platformers if the game does well? Perhaps Super Mario World 3?

Discuss!

-Wheels-

I dunno, but I'd love to see 2d platformers make a comeback. Also, wouldn't it be great if they made another Super Mario RPG?

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I was hyped about this game until it got a 6 from Edge.JLF1
dont trust edge. remember their MGS4 review? how konami said they didnt give copies to reviewers until near release. it came out june 12th and the issue came out early may, meaning it had been written even earlier and they gave MGS4 an 8 out of 10. saying it had a terrible ending to the series and that raiden was still lame. well anyone who likes MGS can tell THEY DIDNT PLAY IT, ign.com even said they got to demo hours of the game b4, buy not the full game. edge rushed their review and lied to get an exclusive and to get attention. and raiden was a badass in this one, and the ending was simply amazing. wait til ign or gspot reviews wario
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#34 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="supermechakirby"]

2D platformers = FAIL

nothing but rehashes from nintendo

air_wolf_cubed
Translation: I started gaming in 1997

as an game designer (well studying it at college) i just love 2d more than 3d games. something is appealing, plus i think its easier to tell a story through text. i want 2d games on consoles, not just handhelds. guys check out independantgames.com
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]I was hyped about this game until it got a 6 from Edge.darth-pyschosis
dont trust edge. remember their MGS4 review? how konami said they didnt give copies to reviewers until near release. it came out june 12th and the issue came out early may, meaning it had been written even earlier and they gave MGS4 an 8 out of 10. saying it had a terrible ending to the series and that raiden was still lame. well anyone who likes MGS can tell THEY DIDNT PLAY IT, ign.com even said they got to demo hours of the game b4, buy not the full game. edge rushed their review and lied to get an exclusive and to get attention. and raiden was a badass in this one, and the ending was simply amazing. wait til ign or gspot reviews wario

Well anyone who has read the review can tell that you never read it. Not once does it say that the ending is "bad" and not once do they say that raiden is "lame".

The only mention of raiden is that "An entire game could (and someday might) plug the gap in raidens backstory, the patriots' one-time pet project returning as a frank jaeger-style cyborg ninja"

The only mention of an ending is that "Though it narrows into a landslide of closing levels , action here is remarkably open..."

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

What is amazing about this game aside from the fact that you do things with the wii mote at certain locations to interact with the map?

I've seen this game. It doesn't look like anything new, aside from new controls tacked onto old gameplay mechanics.

air_wolf_cubed

An average GS score of the others is a 9.1 so I think you can tell

Those were on handhelds though right? I feel like it might lose points for being only 20 stages on a $50 console game.

Despite that, this game looks awesome.

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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

What is amazing about this game aside from the fact that you do things with the wii mote at certain locations to interact with the map?

I've seen this game. It doesn't look like anything new, aside from new controls tacked onto old gameplay mechanics.

TAKE_IT_BACK

An average GS score of the others is a 9.1 so I think you can tell

Those were on handhelds though right? I feel like it might lose points for being only 20 stages on a $50 console game.

Despite that, this game looks awesome.

I dont think it matters handheld or not. Theyre all sidescrollers either way
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#38 TAKE_IT_BACK
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[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

What is amazing about this game aside from the fact that you do things with the wii mote at certain locations to interact with the map?

I've seen this game. It doesn't look like anything new, aside from new controls tacked onto old gameplay mechanics.

air_wolf_cubed

An average GS score of the others is a 9.1 so I think you can tell

Those were on handhelds though right? I feel like it might lose points for being only 20 stages on a $50 console game.

Despite that, this game looks awesome.

I dont think it matters handheld or not. Theyre all sidescrollers either way

Yes but reviewers might want more for there money. 20 stages for 50$ does seem a little steep to me, and i feel like nintendo could have charged $40 for it or so.

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#39 Shinobishyguy
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I was hyped about this game until it got a 6 from Edge.JLF1
Edge tends to be harsh on nearly everything