Was Halo Combat Evolved ahead of all FPS for its time (better than HL2?)

ok heres some simliarities

the ones in halo u can see troops coming out of the exit areas an u could see the guns shooting at u

ok the one in half life u cant see see like whats shooting u whats comiong out of it it looks really fake

so its the same things its enemy spaecship thats how thert the same u see half life didn't have these until halo came out im not saying the design was stolen im saying the idea of having spacehsips in ur game was stolen from halo

and basically it shoots at u like the halo ships an it crashes like there ships it feels very similiar an repetitive

ok heres some simliarities

the ones in halo u can see troops coming out of the exit areas an u could see the guns shooting at u

ok the one in half life u cant see see like whats shooting u whats comiong out of it it looks really fake

so its the same things its enemy spaecship thats how thert the same u see half life didn't have these until halo came out im not saying the design was stolen im saying the idea of having spacehsips in ur game was stolen from halo

and basically it shoots at u like the halo ships an it crashes like there ships it feels very similiar an repetitive

ZarbonX

ok heres some simliarities

the ones in halo u can see troops coming out of the exit areas an u could see the guns shooting at u

ok the one in half life u cant see see like whats shooting u whats comiong out of it it looks really fake

so its the same things its enemy spaecship thats how thert the same u see half life didn't have these until halo came out im not saying the design was stolen im saying the idea of having spacehsips in ur game was stolen from halo

and basically it shoots at u like the halo ships an it crashes like there ships it feels very similiar an repetitive

ZarbonX

So by this logic Halo is astoundingly unorriginal and ripped off every sci-fi or war movie with a gunship or dropship in it. k, gotcha.

ZarbonX, you're just dismissing the pictures we posted earlier.

Seriously, I don't play a game to stare at dropships. I like highly detailed character models (with accurate and realistic lip sync, not some poorly animated ones in Halo), awe inspiring vistas and HDR bloom effects.

And the first Halo game does NOT exhibit these graphical prowess. Give it up dude.

Half life was good but i enjoyed halo more.

But a lot of the structure was already set up in Half Life 1 in terms of how it's told. IE how the cutscenes are mostly interactive. Outside of that you can only really credit the story telling for cleaning up with better tech(IE better facial animations, character models, and character animations in general)jg4xchamp

ZarbonX

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Also Half Life 1 > Halo 1.

walkingdream

No, Half Life2 >> Halo games imo

Unreal 2k4 was better to imo (:

Halo was a better shooter than Half Life 2.

Of couse half life 2 wasn't much of a shooter so thats not saying much.

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dude im just saying how caan 3 year old game have better scenery and enemy drop ships than game that came out 3 years later for uber pc rigs an it looked bad i remember watchin halo combat evolved on my like hjgue tv an being blown away espeically compared to my uber gaming rig pc playing half life 2

thats just how i see it a game that comes out 3 years later should beat a game that came out in 2001 in every area shouldn it?

Arach666

No doudt. Halo CE was a brilliant game for it´s time.

I loved halo when I first played it on my PC

I tried playing HL2 but I was bored to tears and that **** sever section where you drive around in that **** boat for what seems like **** eternity made me quit the game

well i tried going back some 2 weeks after that and actualy finished that level

then I got the another **** vehicle section on that mother**** dune buggy thingy with the gun mounted on it

made me want to kill a puppy, never got past this and I have no intention too

I have no idea why people worship HL2 as much as they do, the shooting is average and the vehicle sctions are compleatly utterly horrible, the worst I have ever seen in a FPS, the level design is stupid and the enemies are your average insect aliens and humans

Halo was amazing, good story, good graphics, and unique gameplay for its time

gamer-adam1

and it pretty much made the formula for modern day FPS controls aswell.

It donea lot,and the 2nd pretty much kick started modern console online FPS.

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Halo was amazing, good story, good graphics, and unique gameplay for its time

razgriz_101

and it pretty much made the formula for modern day FPS controls aswell.

It donea lot,and the 2nd pretty much kick started modern console online FPS.

Made the formula for modern day FPS controls? Perhaps if you exclude Unreal Tournament, Timesplitters, Red Faction and Soldier of Fortune that all released on the PS2 prior to Halo and all with a similar control scheme.

Halo was way ahead of Half Life 2 for it's time.

Half Life 2 did the first person story telling really well (but so did the first game).

Halo did so many other things really well for the fps genre, such as group combat, weapon balance, enemy A.I., the combination of fps shooting and 3rd person vehicle combat, large open levels that allowed the player to play around in them and approach them in different ways, it pretty much perfected the dual analogue fps controls, great little details like the character dialogue when you would shoot them (the allies for example) or how grunts would respond if you killed one of the Elites, excellent multi-player (both split-screen and LAN), every area of the game was just really well designed and highly polished and it was all-round a truly great game...

Halo was one of the seminal watershed moments in fps games period.

Not up for debate.

Both Half Life games are by far greater games. Halo: CE and any other console FPS for that matter (even including Goldeneye) can't compare.

Half-Life 2 was vastly superior everything when it came, it did everything right.

Halo CE was vastly superior everything when it came, it did everything right. Imagine halo ce with online mutliplayer from day one. Holy ****

For consoles yes.

i see no difference to halos art design compared to others except for Aliens and predator other than that h alos art design is very original

This was better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g96xcBtQ1w

Halo was way ahead of Half Life 2 for it's time.

Half Life 2 did the first person story telling really well (but so did the first game).

Halo did so many other things really well for the fps genre, such as group combat, weapon balance, enemy A.I., the combination of fps shooting and 3rd person vehicle combat, large open levels that allowed the player to play around in them and approach them in different ways, it pretty much perfected the dual analogue fps controls, great little details like the character dialogue when you would shoot them (the allies for example) or how grunts would respond if you killed one of the Elites, excellent multi-player (both split-screen and LAN), every area of the game was just really well designed and highly polished and it was all-round a truly great game...

Halo was one of the seminal watershed moments in fps games period.

Not up for debate.

amaneuvering

It was a step up in many regards of much of the groundwork already , a step back in what it was originally attempting to reach, and a step forwards in its own polish and production values as a console centric shooter, moving beyond the GoldenEye centric template. What stands out the most, is the games lasting influence and legacy.

Half Life 2 on the other hand is responsible for much more modern sensations; the physics puzzle game sub genre became a derivative from it, and far too many narrative techniques have been lifted from the game, as with its predecessor - these are where its main influence lies, next to a few other strong design traits. Other than that it was an extremely polished, well made, influential game, in a completely different regard to Halo.

As far as digital actors go Half Life was ahead of its time. Physics, no not really - implementation of, yes. Halo in the console spectrum was.
Shooter? Health system and vehicle intergeneration, for sure.

Neither of them were exactly staple of 'games ahead of their time' in general.

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dude im just saying how caan 3 year old game have better scenery and enemy drop ships than game that came out 3 years later for uber pc rigs an it looked bad i remember watchin halo combat evolved on my like hjgue tv an being blown away espeically compared to my uber gaming rig pc playing half life 2

thats just how i see it a game that comes out 3 years later should beat a game that came out in 2001 in every area shouldn it?

Arach666

Halo came out around 2001 it had drop ships landing with tons of enemy troops shooting at u an they looked really good

3 years later half life 2 came out

the drop ships in it looked really bad an didn't fight very well the AI was really horrible for a FPS an the ai was real bad too an very easy to kill

i struggle very hard on the harder levels of halo on higher difficulty setting i think the ai was smarter then its 3 year future fps like half life 2

an the drop ships looked better an felt mroe fit into scenery then half life 2

what ug uys think who have played both?

halo: combat evolved was and is still the best FPS because of the skillfun and fun gunplay. there is not a better feeling in gaming than 3sk'ing a good opponent.

@ 0:42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua2b3yrKFXI

Halo was amazing, good story, good graphics, and unique gameplay for its time

gamer-adam1

I also like how every gun has a different role. Instead of 50 guns that do the exact same thing.

This was better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g96xcBtQ1w

gameofthering