was it only price that put Xbox brand ahead of playstation?

I think it has more to do with Halo and Gears of War and xbox-pc exclusives that dont ever make it to playstion consoles, finally taken its toll on the playstion brand...also with the constant over promise under deliver of the previous managment-and then you you got microsoft the underpromise and over deliver...it is the tide that has turned

I think it has more to do with Halo and Gears of War and xbox-pc exclusives that dont ever make it to playstion consoles, finally taken its toll on the playstion brand...also with the constant over promise under deliver of the previous managment-and then you you got microsoft the underpromise and over deliver...it is the tide that has turned

rofflecopter_

It was a number of things.

Marketing

-Year head start

-Sony's poor launch (resistance was the only decent title I got initially)

-Microsoft securing exclusives earlier on (DMC4,GTA IV ect) it really stole alot of the thunder from the PS3

What has made the PS3 able to close the gap a bit?

-Microsoft supporting HD-DVD

-RROD

Yes.

If Microsoft kept its options for a single unit for the 360, and it was the same price as a PS3, it would not be where it is today.

To say that the $200 360 hasn't brought in more consumers is somewhat vain.

Even when you factor in exclusive titles on the 360, the price would be the thing that most video game consumers look at.

Only a cow would agree. The 360 is succeeding because MS delivered on the games since launch, providing a way better online experience with XBLA and exclusive DLC and understanding the market better (out of the 2 , who wasbetter preparedfor Holiday Shoppng season?)

PS3 had a poor selection of games for quite some time and when it did start getting some games to stand out from 360's lineup, they didn't get effecient marketing for people to know about them.

Still today, the 360 selection of games are 2-3 larger than PS3's in a typical retail store.

First out of the gate, a preferrable controller, way better PR for first couple years. More games readily available and price yes. Things are start to even out but Sony is now only getting out of their hole they dug with terrible PR.

Price and the big headstart. To the casual consumer, it's the best choice.

Only a cow would agree. The 360 is succeeding because MS delivered on the games since launch, providing a way better online experience with XBLA and exclusive DLC and understanding the market better (out of the 2 , who wasbetter preparedfor Holiday Shoppng season?)

AlphaGamer469

Moo.

I agree with the original statement because pricing is a big factor in whether or not a person buys a console over another. This is not the SOLE reason, but I personally feel that it had a larger impact on the success of the machine than any other tangible reason.

Being a year ahead didn't help 360 beat the sales of the Wii.

Having better exclusives doesn't guarantee a systems success.

Claiming that Microsoft has a better grip on holiday sales is debatable.

1 year headstart.

MS's marketing dollars

Cheaper price tag

1year head start

2x more games

online

price

I think MS did everything right this gen, except RRoD of course

1year head start

2x more games

online

price

I think MS did everything right this gen, except RRoD of course

1year head start

2x more games

online

price

I think MS did everything right this gen, except RRoD of course

Yes.

If Microsoft kept its options for a single unit for the 360, and it was the same price as a PS3, it would not be where it is today.

To say that the $200 360 hasn't brought in more consumers is somewhat vain.

Even when you factor in exclusive titles on the 360, the price would be the thing that most video game consumers look at.

starfox15

1year head start

2x more games

online

price

I think MS did everything right this gen, except RRoD of course

I think it has more to do with Halo and Gears of War and xbox-pc exclusives that dont ever make it to playstion consoles, finally taken its toll on the playstion brand...also with the constant over promise under deliver of the previous managment-and then you you got microsoft the underpromise and over deliver...it is the tide that has turned

rofflecopter_

1year head start

2x more games

online

price

I think MS did everything right this gen, except RRoD of course

And to get that headstart they screwed all Xbox owners and cut the gen short due to a horrible hardware deal. Excuse me for not praising them for their efforts. I think its weak.PoppaGamer

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]As others have done here, you are using reasons tied to being out early yet list them separately. More games and price are mostly due to the year headstart.PoppaGamer

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] And to get that headstart they screwed all Xbox owners and cut the gen short due to a horrible hardware deal. Excuse me for not praising them for their efforts. I think its weak.IronBass

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] And to get that headstart they screwed all Xbox owners and cut the gen short due to a horrible hardware deal. Excuse me for not praising them for their efforts. I think its weak.IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] And to get that headstart they screwed all Xbox owners and cut the gen short due to a horrible hardware deal. Excuse me for not praising them for their efforts. I think its weak.PoppaGamer

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="IronBass"] And?FirstDiscovery

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] And to get that headstart they screwed all Xbox owners and cut the gen short due to a horrible hardware deal. Excuse me for not praising them for their efforts. I think its weak.PoppaGamer

If the 360 and the PS3 launched at the same time and at the same price the 360 would have died off by now lol.

Err no, the cut the XBOX because the developers stopped supporting it.

Err, no. It was a poor deal with Nvidia that was the xbox's downfall. But your reasoning is even worse for MS. :lol: Let's go with yours.

And seriously, what on Earth are you talking about, last year, in 'the year of the PS3' the 360 had its strongest year despite a shaky first half of the year, or are you going to somehow find a way to ignore that?

Where did I say anything of the sort? Where did I mention "year of the PS3"??? You must be having two conversations at once.

FirstDiscovery

This 1 year head start thing is really getting old.

The truth is, if the Cell hadn't alienated developers and slowed down development at some really crucial points of the consoles early life, they could have made the PS3 as popular as the PS2.

The brand power of PS was amazing before this gen, but slow development had made capitalising on this a matter of too little too late.

People need to deal with this and stop blaming everything on that 1 year. The lack of marketing on Sonys' part is just mind boggling.

Sony are experienced enough by now to have been able to deal with that.

I stand by my statement (made in the past) that if it wasn't for stupid technology like the cell, Xbox wouldn't have had a chance. Devs and gamers would have stayed with the PS.

So you are saying MS purposely cut the xbox off screwing its owners? You said it was a "smart move." How sad the future of gaming is with this kind of mindset.PoppaGamer

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] So you are saying MS purposely cut the xbox off screwing its owners? You said it was a "smart move." How sad the future of gaming is with this kind of mindset.Burnsmiesta

You could also make the same argument against those who bought PS3 for $600 (counting me). Those gamers opened the door for expensive consoles in the future.

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="IronBass"] And?FirstDiscovery

Thats just fanboy excuses. I dont remember Genesis, Sega Saturn and Dreamcast having any success compared to Snes, PSX and PS2 respectively

If the 360 and the PS3 launched at the same time and at the same price the 360 would have died off by now lol.

Eddie-Vedder

If there was no RRoD, im sure there woulnt be PS3 anymore aswell

The combination of price and content made the difference for Microsoft this time around. The 360's library of games is huge, eclectic, and satisfying for anybody who buys the console and can now be accessed for $199.

As far as I know, there are still no games that require the 360's hard drive.

Eh, of course price had something to do with it. Price has something to do with everything. There are other factors as well, marketing, games, infrastructure, image etc. You don't get a head by price alone, why people think that is beyond me.

Do I care specifically about a gaming faction? No. Do I care that gamers get screwed because it could lead to more screwing later? Yes.

You could also make the same argument against those who bought PS3 for $600 (counting me). Those gamers opened the door for expensive consoles in the future.

PoppaGamer

If the 360 and the PS3 launched at the same time and at the same price the 360 would have died off by now lol.

Eddie-Vedder

Price played the biggest part but a headstart and better games are also a factor

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

If the 360 and the PS3 launched at the same time and at the same price the 360 would have died off by now lol.

rofflecopter_

The bigger library is deffinitely a reason, but once again that links back to the year headstart.

So the main reason is the year head start.

Microsoft is the master of numbers. They are smart enough to not launch halo 3 on pc until halo 4 comes out, since halo is one of xbox biggest sellers. Same with gears.

Well, Im a xbox owner and I don't believe the price is the only cause... Not even the earlier launch I guess...

When Xbox 360 was still young, it had already a ton of games, and in the same time, PS3 didn't got as many games, and the ones it had.. were quitly poor indeed...

Xbox 360 always involved gamers a lot more...

I was always a Sony big big big fan, and a PS2 lover... actually I'm still in love with it, even though I don't have one anymore...

Now, MS has conquered me with it's console, for good I guess, if ever a XBOX 720 will be launched or anything better, I'll sure get it...

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

If the 360 and the PS3 launched at the same time and at the same price the 360 would have died off by now lol.

Coolio10

The bigger library is deffinitely a reason, but once again that links back to the year headstart.

So the main reason is the year head start.

Microsoft is the master of numbers. They are smart enough to not launch halo 3 on pc until halo 4 comes out, since halo is one of xbox biggest sellers. Same with gears.

cant do what if'srofflecopter_

The bigger library is deffinitely a reason, but once again that links back to the year headstart.

So the main reason is the year head start.

Microsoft is the master of numbers. They are smart enough to not launch halo 3 on pc until halo 4 comes out, since halo is one of xbox biggest sellers. Same with gears.

I think it has more to do with Halo and Gears of War and xbox-pc exclusives that dont ever make it to playstion consoles, finally taken its toll on the playstion brand...also with the constant over promise under deliver of the previous managment-and then you you got microsoft the underpromise and over deliver...it is the tide that has turned

rofflecopter_

That would be the Wii. There are 3 reasons the XBox 360 is ahead of the PS3.

1) Like the PS2 before it, the XBox 360 launched a year before it's competition. Why do you think the PS2 had such a huge lead over the compeition as well.

2) The XBox 360 a great launch compared to the PS3. Yes, the RROD and shortage of systems hurt it some, but it had 2 AAAE and 2 AAE titles at launch. Even though people were return systems to get news one, PS3 gamers were returning systems because they couldn't sell them on EBay for a profit. lol!!Still, the games have been a huge factor as it took the PS3 almost 2 years to finally get a AAAE title. Meantime the 360 had about 7 AAAE titles and at least 6 AAE games. They also have the most million seller titles for their console.

3) The price was right. Because M$ launched their system a year early and because it was cheaper then the PS3 at launch, they were able to drop the price sooner before the competition. Just like the PS2, go figure. This allowed their system to be the cheapest on the market. Gamers who want a game console with a huge lineup of quality games can get it for $200 and not $400. That's a big difference when it comes to people's wallets.

The XBox 360 continues to pull ahead of the PS3 in sales. Even though a PS3 price drop will help the PS3 sell more consoles, most gamers have given us waiting for that and are just as happy with the Wii and XBox 360. Sure PS3 will sell like crazy once under $300, but by then the XBox 360 will be $150 and Microsoft will be taunting their new game consoles.

i actually think it has alot to do with some od ms's subtle marketing.

anytime you see a video game system being played on tv, what system is it? its almost always the 360. whether its in a sitcom with a reference to sombody playing "xbox" or as big as only using the 360 version in madden challenge.

i think ms has played a good deal of money to be the defacto normal console.

i also don't see ms getting big-headed about it anytime soon and thinking that they don't have to pay some people off to keep their console in the forefront (i.e. pulling a sony).

it was only pricehoosier7

"Only"?

Even if that were true, you say it like it were a bad thing.

Numerous reasons why Xbox360 has an 8M sales gap:

• Price
• 1yr headstart
• Better marketing
• Games (Halo3, Gears, etc)
• Major multiplats (GTA IV, DMC4, FFXIII) coming to the X360
• Better online service

The Xbox360 is already a successful product with increase sales & marketshare from last gen :)