was it only price that put Xbox brand ahead of playstation?

Numerous reasons why Xbox360 has an 8M sales gap:

• Price
• 1yr headstart
• Better marketing
• Games (Halo3, Gears, etc)
• Major multiplats (GTA IV, DMC4, FFXIII) coming to the X360
• Better online service

The Xbox360 is already a successful product with increase sales & marketshare from last gen :)

Numerous reasons why Xbox360 has an 8M sales gap:

• Price
• 1yr headstart
• Better marketing
• Games (Halo3, Gears, etc)
• Major multiplats (GTA IV, DMC4, FFXIII) coming to the X360
• Better online service

The Xbox360 is already a successful product with increase sales & marketshare from last gen :)

Wrong. It all has to do with being out a year early. With a year lead you get a fanbase built, that fanbase brings devs, those devs bring games, those games bring more fans, those fans hype the product, that hype brings more devs, and so on. Also, the more time a console is out, the cheaper the manufacturing costs get, the cheaper the console gets which pushes the first cycle I described. No tied has turned, LOL.PoppaGamer

Yup.. pretty much. The X360 launching a full year ahead of it's competition created a snowball effect that influenced everything else.. Games, Price, Marketing ect..

If the PS3 relesed at the same time, and at the same pricem it would be miles ahead of the Xbox, to the point that MS would once again be thinking of stopping production.

If the PS3 relesed at the same time, and at the same pricem it would be miles ahead of the Xbox, to the point that MS would once again be thinking of stopping production.

-Snooze-

ithink halo/gears is a VERY minor cause. i think its mainly due to the year head start and the price. sure playstation has lost a few exclusives but they still have many exellent ones

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

If the PS3 relesed at the same time, and at the same pricem it would be miles ahead of the Xbox, to the point that MS would once again be thinking of stopping production.

delta3074

I think its becoming more obvious that price makes a HUGE impact on sales.

Because although the ps3 has not caught up game wise, and for shooter fans, has come out in front, the 360 still sells more.

And the sales of the wii are now coming down now that the 360 is cheaper than a wii.

Price is a large factor, bigger than games almost for the average consumer...

It definitely played some part but there are a ton of other factors that helped push the 360 forward.

Mostly cause it's the superior console tbh

more games that people wanted to play. it's pretty simple. For the most part, 3rd party games have been better on 360 than PS3, but that seems to be coming around. For gamers, price has more to do with it when you're looking at a 2nd or 3rd console. When you already have one or two, the PS3 looks mighty expensive, even if the whole value thing makes it cheaper in a sense.k04sm02

Err, no. It was a poor deal with Nvidia that was the xbox's downfall. But your reasoning is even worse for MS. :lol: Let's go with yours.

PoppaGamer

The nVidia dispute happened years before, they then settled the issue and continued production. Keep trying:lol:

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] And to get that headstart they screwed all Xbox owners and cut the gen short due to a horrible hardware deal. Excuse me for not praising them for their efforts. I think its weak.PAL360

Thats just fanboy excuses. I dont remember Genesis, Sega Saturn and Dreamcast having any success compared to Snes, PSX and PS2 respectively

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]Err, no. It was a poor deal with Nvidia that was the xbox's downfall. But your reasoning is even worse for MS. :lol: Let's go with yours.

The nVidia dispute happened years before, they then settled the issue and continued production. Keep trying:lol:

NVIDIA ceased production of the Xbox's GPU in August 2005, which marked the end of Xbox production and the quick release of the Xbox 360 on November 22, 2005Wiki

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]You really are misinformed are you, thank you for proving youre a jealous fanboy.

The nVidia dispute happened years before, they then settled the issue and continued production. Keep trying:lol:

NVIDIA ceased production of the Xbox's GPU in August 2005, which marked the end of Xbox production and the quick release of the Xbox 360 on November 22, 2005Wiki

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]Really? [QUOTE="Wiki"] NVIDIA ceased production of the Xbox's GPU in August 2005, which marked the end of Xbox production and the quick release of the Xbox 360 on November 22, 2005FirstDiscovery

By your own admission, Xbox was a failure.

Now you have MS' next attempt getting creamed by Nintendo and can barely keep the sales edge it attained the year alone over the PS3 which has been "double the price".

That's not fanboy, that's reality.

Excuse me for not licking MS' boot heels.

I think it would be a well known fact by now that the 360 is ahead because of price.

there was price, a year's head start, a few great games compared with no great games on ps3, and a system that made it easier and cheaper to develop for that made great developers naturallygravitate towards the360. All of these things made the 360 dominate the ps3.

The Wii still laughs at both of them though.

there was price, a year's head start, a few great games compared with no great games on ps3, and a system that made it easier and cheaper to develop for that made great developers naturallygravitate towards the360. All of these things made the 360 dominate the ps3.

The Wii still laughs at both of them though.

Serraph105

there was price, a year's head start, a few great games compared with no great games on ps3, and a system that made it easier and cheaper to develop for that made great developers naturallygravitate towards the360. All of these things made the 360 dominate the ps3.

The Wii still laughs at both of them though.

There were a lot of reasons.

1. Loss of big name exclusives (DMC4, GTA IV, Tekken VI, FFXIII, Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil V)

2. Poor Marketing for Big Exclusives like Little Big Planet and Resistance II

3. Underestimating the Xbox's Fanbase, and the Xbox's appeal in the West

4. Too Expensive at Launch, with very little in the way of games (except Resistance 1)

5. Removing Backwards Compatibility

6. Refusal to cut the price

7. Too much focus on Blu-Ray Movies and not enough on Games

8. The Recession

9. Overconfidence on the part of Sony, after having two runaway successes with the PS1 and 2, many felt the PS3 would be a runaway hit just like they were.

10. Unable to dent Microsoft where it would hurt the most: the HALO and Gears of War Series

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]As others have done here, you are using reasons tied to being out early yet list them separately. More games and price are mostly due to the year headstart.PoppaGamer

What it was for me is i've always had the PS1's and PS2's back then..and trying SEGA's consoles out like the Saturn and genesis and 32X and the nintendos....then xbox came out and i wanted to try something new and i digged it more or less...but within the year i plan on buying a PS3, right now i have the Wii & 360 i'd like to add that to the collection as well.

Only a cow would agree. The 360 is succeeding because MS delivered on the games since launch, providing a way better online experience with XBLA and exclusive DLC and understanding the market better (out of the 2 , who wasbetter preparedfor Holiday Shoppng season?)

AlphaGamer469

The first half of 2008 did show that a competitively price PS3 faired just as well as the 360 so price certainly did have a factor.

No.

What you're forgetting is that the original Xbox had a very weak fanbase compared to the PS2, so the Xbox 360 is a complete success compared to the original. The PS3 on the otherhand is a complete failure compared to the PS2's sales.

The amount of success of the 360 is attributed to the better library it had for the first few years.

Now that the PS3 has caught up with games I assume it'll sell just as well as the 360, or more depending on whether or not they reclaim some of the old PS2 fans.

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

Only a cow would agree. The 360 is succeeding because MS delivered on the games since launch, providing a way better online experience with XBLA and exclusive DLC and understanding the market better (out of the 2 , who wasbetter preparedfor Holiday Shoppng season?)

Lionheart08

The first half of 2008 did show that a competitively price PS3 faired just as well as the 360 so price certainly did have a factor.

It's been economically proven that the majority of sales happen during the holiday shopping season. In the 3 months of the holiday shopping season, the 260 wiped out any minor lead sony had. Do you honostly think 3 to 30 k wins for sony meant anything? You aren't going to win a sales year in June or July, Sony hasn't figured it out yet and until they do, they will continue to slip. Don't hate on MS for being shrewd and recognizing this, hate on Sony for being their atypical shortsighted...