Was there even a need for WiiU?

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#51 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="campzor"]

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

Yes.... because I hate gaming in 480p on a large screen.

Also, Nintendo IP in HD... YES PLZ!!!

Of course HD doesnt make the games good... but Nintendo is usually good about quality. I repeat... USUALLY.

They really phoned it in on the New 3D Mario World... its quite depressing that they didn't seem to put any effort into recreating the magic of Super Mario 64 or SMG 1 & 2.

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Thats the problem, its mainly wii games hd'ified

And? The Wii had awesome games. I can't wait for SSB U and MK8. 

I can name so many games I want for Wii U. It obliterates the exclusives announced on the other next gen systems
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#52 silversix_
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No, no one asked for a crappy system with more gimmicks
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#53 Coolyfett
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Most of it's games feel like Wii games but in HD.

I think it would be better if WiiU was just a optional and cheap add-on for Wii.

So far, I don't really see why this system should exist.

The 1st party games would run on the Wii in SD and the 3rd party ports don't captivate anyone.

Add to that a relatively high price (compared to current-gen competitors), last gen hardware (Power 750 is very old tech) and lacking 3rd party support and there's even less reasons for the system.

Perhaps my opinion will change once the games that actually look like they couldn't be done properly on Wii (e.g. Project X, MK8, tech demo Zelda) but those titles are still several months or years away.

The system was just poorly planned from the beginning, imo.

 

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Give gamers another busty Samus in an open world adventure with Awesome boss battle and all will be well in Nintendos world and their female fans.

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#54 Coolyfett
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Is there any need for any gaming console?....

-_-musicalmac
Yes there is a need for Playstation

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#55 MFDOOM1983
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Nah, We already have HD Nintendo games thanks to dolphin. Wii-u is not needed and judging by the consumer sales and overall support from developers, they feel the same way too.
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#56 BPoole96
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You know who else would make more money if they went 3rd Party?

Naughty Dog.

bbkkristian

They sure would, but I'm sure Sony pays them nicely since their games move consoles. People only buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games, and hte idea of spend over $400 just to play a handful of games is absurd.

Out of people buying the vita for Persona 4, and people buying a PS4/X1 for games that are also coming out on PS3/360, and what you said, people buying a console to play Nintendo exclusives. The latter is worse? Lol okay...

Not many people bought a Vita just for Persona, as evident by Vita's horrible sales. The people buying PS4/XBone at launch aren't just buying them for exclusives, they're buying them for 8 years worth of some of the best games in the industry that will never be found on a Wii U.

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#57 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]

Thats the problem, its mainly wii games hd'ified

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And? The Wii had awesome games. I can't wait for SSB U and MK8. 

I can name so many games I want for Wii U. It obliterates the exclusives announced on the other next gen systems

And? You = everyone? Because most people, if the Wii U games or Nintendo games even.....If they were on the PS4 and XB1 they would probably sale half the numbers they would if they were a Wii U exclusive. How do I know this? Look at Sega. When Sega had their own platforms like the Dreamcast anything with the name Sega in it sold like crazy. Daytona, Sega Rally, Virtua Fighter, Crazi Taxi...... But as soon as they went multi-platform and had to go against big time 3rd party publishers their game sales dropped and they eventually restructured teams or lost developers. Nintendo, if they went 3rd party would end up a shell of what they are now. Hell Nintendo's main franchises like Mario have not convinced people to buy a Wii U. No way they buy it over Call of Duty or Battlefield. (I am talking the majority. not a bunch of goobers on a game forum.
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#58 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"] And? The Wii had awesome games. I can't wait for SSB U and MK8. timbers_WSU
I can name so many games I want for Wii U. It obliterates the exclusives announced on the other next gen systems

And? You = everyone? Because most people, if the Wii U games or Nintendo games even.....If they were on the PS4 and XB1 they would probably sale half the numbers they would if they were a Wii U exclusive. How do I know this? Look at Sega. When Sega had their own platforms like the Dreamcast anything with the name Sega in it sold like crazy. Daytona, Sega Rally, Virtua Fighter, Crazi Taxi...... But as soon as they went multi-platform and had to go against big time 3rd party publishers their game sales dropped and they eventually restructured teams or lost developers. Nintendo, if they went 3rd party would end up a shell of what they are now. Hell Nintendo's main franchises like Mario have not convinced people to buy a Wii U. No way they buy it over Call of Duty or Battlefield. (I am talking the majority. not a bunch of goobers on a game forum.

And Look at Sega now. Publishing Sonic for Nintendo exclusively. That flaws your argument.

 

Did I say me = everybody? My comment was purely subjective. Sorry if that angers you.

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#59 MFDOOM1983
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Sheep says Wii-U has more exclusives he's interested in? Can't say I didn't see that one coming.
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#60 SonySoldier-_-
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Nintnedo needed to finally have an HD console, but the WiiU hasn't been the asnwer they were looking for.

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#61 ConanTheStoner
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Was there even a need for the PS4?  The X1?  A new GPU for your PC?

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#62 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"] I can name so many games I want for Wii U. It obliterates the exclusives announced on the other next gen systemsbbkkristian

And? You = everyone? Because most people, if the Wii U games or Nintendo games even.....If they were on the PS4 and XB1 they would probably sale half the numbers they would if they were a Wii U exclusive. How do I know this? Look at Sega. When Sega had their own platforms like the Dreamcast anything with the name Sega in it sold like crazy. Daytona, Sega Rally, Virtua Fighter, Crazi Taxi...... But as soon as they went multi-platform and had to go against big time 3rd party publishers their game sales dropped and they eventually restructured teams or lost developers. Nintendo, if they went 3rd party would end up a shell of what they are now. Hell Nintendo's main franchises like Mario have not convinced people to buy a Wii U. No way they buy it over Call of Duty or Battlefield. (I am talking the majority. not a bunch of goobers on a game forum.

And Look at Sega now. Publishing Sonic for Nintendo exclusively. That flaws your argument.

 

Did I say me = everybody? My comment was purely subjective. Sorry if that angers you.

No it proves my point. Sega is a shell of its former self. And why would I be upset that you waste time with Nintendo?
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#63 bbkkristian
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Sheep says Wii-U has more exclusives he's interested in? Can't say I didn't see that one coming. MFDOOM1983
Go on a haterade campaign on Wii U, I'll not be surprised either.
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#64 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] And? You = everyone? Because most people, if the Wii U games or Nintendo games even.....If they were on the PS4 and XB1 they would probably sale half the numbers they would if they were a Wii U exclusive. How do I know this? Look at Sega. When Sega had their own platforms like the Dreamcast anything with the name Sega in it sold like crazy. Daytona, Sega Rally, Virtua Fighter, Crazi Taxi...... But as soon as they went multi-platform and had to go against big time 3rd party publishers their game sales dropped and they eventually restructured teams or lost developers. Nintendo, if they went 3rd party would end up a shell of what they are now. Hell Nintendo's main franchises like Mario have not convinced people to buy a Wii U. No way they buy it over Call of Duty or Battlefield. (I am talking the majority. not a bunch of goobers on a game forum.timbers_WSU

And Look at Sega now. Publishing Sonic for Nintendo exclusively. That flaws your argument.

 

Did I say me = everybody? My comment was purely subjective. Sorry if that angers you.

No it proves my point. Sega is a shell of its former self. And why would I be upset that you waste time with Nintendo?

So you went from proving a point to proving the future? ooookkaaayyyyyy... :roll: You obviously cared so much about me to respond to my interest in Nintendo.
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#65 Infinite_Access
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They needed a new console.. but not one as weak as the one they delivered...  and def not for THE PRICE OF IT!! If that things is equal or slightly better than my ps3.. i want an equal or SLIGHTLY more expense price.  I won't buy one until a price drop.. .simple as that.  It isn't worth it otherwise. 

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#66 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Sheep says Wii-U has more exclusives he's interested in? Can't say I didn't see that one coming. bbkkristian
Go on a haterade campaign on Wii U, I'll not be surprised either.

*Looks at wii-u's library of games, lack of support, shit hardware and online infrastructure* As a gamer, how can I not dislike the wii-u?
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#67 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Sheep says Wii-U has more exclusives he's interested in? Can't say I didn't see that one coming. MFDOOM1983
Go on a haterade campaign on Wii U, I'll not be surprised either.

*Looks at wii-u's library of games, lack of support, shit hardware and online infrastructure* As a gamer, how can I not dislike the wii-u?

The games? Go cry if they don't appeal to you. I would buy a Wii U to play their games, does that not make me a gamer?
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#68 jg4xchamp
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Would prefer if Nintendo just went third party, and I could get their stuff on better hardware. Their consoles are incredibly misguided, and their libraries are extremely weak with such little third party support.

Their handheld business model is excellent, but their handheld games are like filler in comparison to what that company can do on consoles. Regardless I'll be tolerating the nonsense that is WiiU for some Bayonetta 2 and Wonderful 101 excellence. Plus at the least Pikmin 3 and nintendos usual outings of "another f*cking Mario/Zelda/Metroid/Smash Bros" should be fun in their own right.

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#69 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"] Go on a haterade campaign on Wii U, I'll not be surprised either.

*Looks at wii-u's library of games, lack of support, shit hardware and online infrastructure* As a gamer, how can I not dislike the wii-u?

The games? Go cry if they don't appeal to you. I would buy a Wii U to play their games, does that not make me a gamer?

Lol I'm talking about the games currently available.... The wii-u's library is pathetic.
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#70 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] *Looks at wii-u's library of games, lack of support, shit hardware and online infrastructure* As a gamer, how can I not dislike the wii-u?

The games? Go cry if they don't appeal to you. I would buy a Wii U to play their games, does that not make me a gamer?

Lol I'm talking about the games currently available.... The wii-u's library is pathetic.

omg Well no S***. I was talking about future exclusives. Wii U's as useless as my Vita is right now. I'm talking 2014, it will be worth it.
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#71 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"] The games? Go cry if they don't appeal to you. I would buy a Wii U to play their games, does that not make me a gamer?

Lol I'm talking about the games currently available.... The wii-u's library is pathetic.

omg Well no S***. I was talking about future exclusives. Wii U's as useless as my Vita is right now. I'm talking 2014, it will be worth it.

For hardcore sheep, maybe. I need more than a bunch of 2d platformers and another mk in order for me to buy a wii-u this holiday. Nintendo doesn't make enough games to justify wii-u's current $350 price tag. Maybe in 5 years once it has a dozen or more worthwhile exclusives(wish i did that with wii) and fairly priced(<$150). Perhaps, Miyamto will create something fresh that catches my eye. Not holding my breath, after the last two games he championed(nintendogs and wii music), but the old guy might have one more left in him.
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#72 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] Lol I'm talking about the games currently available.... The wii-u's library is pathetic.

omg Well no S***. I was talking about future exclusives. Wii U's as useless as my Vita is right now. I'm talking 2014, it will be worth it.

For hardcore sheep, maybe. I need more than a bunch of 2d platformers and another mk in order for me to buy a wii-u this holiday. Nintendo doesn't make enough games to justify wii-u's current $350 price tag. Maybe in 5 years once it has a dozen or more worthwhile exclusives(wish i did that with wii) and fairly priced(<$150). Perhaps, Miyamto will create something fresh that catches my eye. Not holding my breath, after the last two games he championed(nintendogs and wii music), but the old guy might have one more left in him.

Well, I'm looking forward mostly to X, FExSMT, and Smash Bros. I would get a Wii U for any of those 3 titles; and Miyamoto, doesn't have much influence on them.
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#73 nintendoboy16
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Nintendo is not needed in the home console side of gaming. WiiU will be their last home system. Handheld only is the way to go for them.Nengo_Flow
Dude, Nintendo would fall over faster if they went handheld only. It's like standing on one leg without any extra support, eventually, you're going down faster than you can think.

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#74 bobcheeseball
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I'd say there's even mores of a need for a Wii U than a PS4/XB1, considering how dated the Wii's technology was.
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#75 TheWalkingGhost
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A lot of stupid fanboy comments in this thread. No shock there, only here would a company dumping an old system for a newer more powerful one be seen as "not needed". Don't ever change SW.
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#76 TheWalkingGhost
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Nope, at least not in its current form. Nintendo should have released a more powerful wii and called it the wii2 and ditched the tablet controller.Kaz_Son
And kissed their butts goodbye. Of course the WiiU is a more powerful Wii....But hey, who needs facts right? There is nothing wrong with the name and you don't have to use the tablet.
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#77 dramaybaz
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So suddenly sheep want HD?
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#78 bbkkristian
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So suddenly sheep want HD?dramaybaz
This isn't 2006 when HD TVs were more than $1000.
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#79 bobcheeseball
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So suddenly sheep want HD?dramaybaz

Suddenly? HD in 2006 wasn't anywhere near the near necessity it is today. As time progresses typically the standard and expectations do too.

Same reason why lemmings "suddenly" want Blu-Ray

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It was needed. Their own developers like Sakurai and Miyamoto both admitted it was time.
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#81 LegatoSkyheart
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They sure would, but I'm sure Sony pays them nicely since their games move consoles. People only buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games, and hte idea of spend over $400 just to play a handful of games is absurd.

BPoole96

and I'm sure Nintendo pays their own studios well to make games to move their own systems too.

It completely destroys your "Nintendo should go 3rd Party" route because every game developer can greatly benifit from going 3rd party.

1st party is only there to move units.

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

Yes.... because I hate gaming in 480p on a large screen.

Also, Nintendo IP in HD... YES PLZ!!!

Of course HD doesnt make the games good... but Nintendo is usually good about quality. I repeat... USUALLY.

They really phoned it in on the New 3D Mario World... its quite depressing that they didn't seem to put any effort into recreating the magic of Super Mario 64 or SMG 1 & 2.

campzor

Thats the problem, its mainly wii games hd'ified

kinda like how PS3 and 360 games were just PS2 and Xbox games with Better Graphics? Come on man, get real.

Plus the WiiU hardly has a need for it's motion controllers. A Total of 2 games need it for my WiiU and 1 of them hardly uses the motion at all, it's just there for Multiplayer support.

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#82 foxhound_fox
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Yes. Nintendo needed to update their hardware if they were to remain relevant. 480p is not relevant at this point. And regardless of what stupid people might say, Nintendo IP sells truckloads, and makes them tons of money.
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#83 AmnesiaHaze
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wiiU should have been the console launched in 2006 , with a normal controller of course

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#84 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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HD Zelda?

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#85 blangenakker
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They just need that one first-party game and they'll be set