Watch Dogs and Beyond: Two Souls proof we don't need "next-gen" consol

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#1 darkhadou
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Safe for Nintendo, these two new IPs are proof that this current generation of consoles still has a lot to give in terms of graphical presentation. I believe that in previous generations, developers have never really maximized the technology at that time. These games show that there is still much to do and give. Looking forward to them. What are your thoughts?

Oh yeah...add Halo 4 into that mix.

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#2 shearMario
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One was like a movie the other was running on a PC, I can tell you right now the 360/PS3 game will not look like that
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#3 darkhadou
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One was like a movie the other was running on a PC, I can tell you right now the 360/PS3 game will not look like thatshearMario
Watch Dogs is so incredible looking, that if it were running on a 360/PS3, I too will be amazed. Which is why I feel the next-gen should come a little slower... :)
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#4 M4SK2F4CE
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You actually believe Watch Dogs was running on a PS3 or 360? LMAOOOOOOOO
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#5 soulitane
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Yeah, when you don't actually have to do much other than render graphics. :o
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#6 R4gn4r0k
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Watch dogs is proof we DO need a new playstation and xbox.

All we've seen of Beyond is a movie, no gameplay so you don't even know how it'll look.

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#7 FrozenLiquid
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Beyond was having framerate issues. Then again, Heavy Rain was too, and that isn't that great looking. I agree though, I'm quite content with the graphics of both of those games.
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#8 Voyant
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but Watch Dogs was played on a PC....Beyond has nice facial animations...but other than tat the graphics are B- at best.
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#9 Totalgym9000
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Halo 4, the last of us, resident evil 6, assassins creed 3, god of war a, and beyond all looked amazing to me, and i'm totally happy with games looking like that for years to come, PC gamers just gotta hate, but games have become so optimized for consoles it's amazing what developers can do.
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#10 sukraj
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Looks real sweet.

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Halo 4, the last of us, resident evil 6, assassins creed 3, god of war a, and beyond all looked amazing to me, and i'm totally happy with games looking like that for years to come, PC gamers just gotta hate, but games have become so optimized for consoles it's amazing what developers can do.Totalgym9000

So PC gamers are the only ones who want new consoles ? :?

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Watch Dogs looked amazing so getting that for PC and Beyond was Beyondful I was just blown away by both.

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#13 PAL360
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The fact most games are dong scripted events after scripted events, to improve visuals, show we need next gen consoles soon.

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#14 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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[QUOTE="Totalgym9000"]Halo 4, the last of us, resident evil 6, assassins creed 3, god of war a, and beyond all looked amazing to me, and i'm totally happy with games looking like that for years to come, PC gamers just gotta hate, but games have become so optimized for consoles it's amazing what developers can do.R4gn4r0k

So PC gamers are the only ones who want new consoles ? :?

That's because we don't want to play multi-platform games for the next 5 years that are all on the same engines... I know what some of you people are saying though but you don't realise that your are looking at the current situation from a strong idealist point of view, wake up and realise you are being milked 24/7 by DLC and sequal's that barely make an effort to move forward from their last game that came out a year ago...I remember when seqeauls use to mean something and use to excited me but now all they are is literaly the same game.

  • Call of Duty 1 to Call of Duty 2... amazing.
  • Half-Life to Half life 2... jaw dropping.

... Because of consoles we have had the same Call of Duty for the past 5 years and because of your mentality we had Half Life 2 episodes instead of Half Life 3. Wake up!

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[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="Totalgym9000"]Halo 4, the last of us, resident evil 6, assassins creed 3, god of war a, and beyond all looked amazing to me, and i'm totally happy with games looking like that for years to come, PC gamers just gotta hate, but games have become so optimized for consoles it's amazing what developers can do.Grey_Eyed_Elf

So PC gamers are the only ones who want new consoles ? :?

That's because we don't want to play multi-platform games for the next 5 years that are all on the same engines... I know what some of you people are saying though but you don't realise that your are looking at the current situation from a strong idealist point of view, wake up and realise you are being milked 24/7 by DLC and sequal's that barely make an effort to move forward from their last game that came out a year ago...I remember when seqeauls use to mean something and use to excited me but now all they are is literaly the same game.

  • Call of Duty 1 to Call of Duty 2... amazing.
  • Half-Life to Half life 2... jaw dropping.

... Because of consoles we have had the same Call of Duty for the past 5 years and because of your mentality we had Half Life 2 episodes instead of Half Life 3. Wake up!

What I'm trying to say was that there are a lot of console owners that want next gen to begin already. Sure AC3 looks amazing but at what cost: there is loads of pop-in.

And I really can't agree with your last sentence. CoD gets milked because millions buy it each year. It has nothing to do with consoles, lots of PC gamers buy CoD too.

There not being a Half Life 3 has nothing to do with consoles either, it's all valve's doing.

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#16 Lucianu
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I don't get it. Why wouldn't you want next generation consoles? It's new start, it's exciting, and it will certainly have games with better graphics (not only appealing to the eye, but more advanced features that developers will take advantage of) and possibly better performance.

Money can't be the issue here, because gaming as a whole isn't exactly cheap, you know what you're getting yourself into wen you're getting into this hobby.

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#17 SecretPolice
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New, way more potent consoles are needed, that is all.

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#18 osan0
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my hatred for quantic dreams things continues (im not calling them games). absolute tosh the lot of it. but watch dog was very impressive. was it definately being played on a PC? i thought it looked like a PS3 controller but someone mentioned it was a logitech controller. i was a bit bleary eyed at the time :P. i love the concept though. if its a case of problems having many solutions then it could be really ace. e.g. instead of manipulating the traffic lights to cause a crash i hack the on board computer on the targets car, disable the breaks and go full throttle. a more subtle solution where i dont get involved in a huge shoot up. or i track the car and when no one is around i turn of the targets engine and complete the objective.
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#19 GD1551
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Halo 4, the last of us, resident evil 6, assassins creed 3, god of war a, and beyond all looked amazing to me, and i'm totally happy with games looking like that for years to come, PC gamers just gotta hate, but games have become so optimized for consoles it's amazing what developers can do.Totalgym9000

Most of those games don't look much better than what you already got and RE6 was getting framerate issues..(go to the scene where he throws the grenade down the stairs).

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#20 PillyChickle
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Fail thread - Watch Dogs is a next generaiton game running on PC.

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#21 freedomfreak
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Ellen Page -_-

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#22 MlauTheDaft
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Console graphics have'nt improved in years though:?

Stop being so naive.

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#23 osan0
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Fail thread - Watch Dogs is a next generaiton game running on PC.

PillyChickle

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-06-05-ubisofts-watch-dogs-unveiled-platforms-not-yet-disclosed

its allready been confirmed for PC, PS3 and 360. this game could also be a cracker on the wiiu.

edit: er ignore the title part of the URL. the article has been updated :P.

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Watch Dogs and Star Wars 1313 are complete PROOF we need next gen consoles. If you think the 360/PS3 versions of these will look anythign like what you saw then you'll be greatly dissapointed sir. I think its time for native resolution 1080p console games.

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#25 Vandalvideo
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Watch Dogs and Star Wars 1313 are completely PROOF we need next gen consoles. If you think the 360/PS3 versions of these will look anythign like what you saw then you'll be greatly dissapointed sir. I think its time for native resolution 1080p console games.

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1080p is aiming a bit low don' t you think?
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#26 SRTtoZ
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[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Watch Dogs and Star Wars 1313 are completely PROOF we need next gen consoles. If you think the 360/PS3 versions of these will look anythign like what you saw then you'll be greatly dissapointed sir. I think its time for native resolution 1080p console games.

Vandalvideo

1080p is aiming a bit low don' t you think?

You expect next gen to be higher than 1080p? Even though the standard TV is 720/1080p?

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[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Watch Dogs and Star Wars 1313 are completely PROOF we need next gen consoles. If you think the 360/PS3 versions of these will look anythign like what you saw then you'll be greatly dissapointed sir. I think its time for native resolution 1080p console games.

Vandalvideo

1080p is aiming a bit low don' t you think?

Screen tech needs to advance before higher resolutions can be introduced to the mainstream.

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#28 Vandalvideo
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You expect next gen to be higher than 1080p? Even though the standard TV is 720/1080p?SRTtoZ
Well then maybe people should start buying into higher definition televisions. If people really want to complain about the lack of high definition in console gaming, they have only themselves to blame for not supporting a larger market of higher definition monitors. (Which are widely available, its just that people other than PC Gamers rarely buy them) At the very least, console gaming should start allowing for higher definitions than 1080p for people who have better monitors.
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#29 Wasdie  Moderator
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Good chance that Watch Dogs was running on the PC and is intended for next-gen hardware. Beyond also had 0 gameplay so they could devote 100% of system resources to graphics.

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#30 2Chalupas
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You realize Watch Dogs wont' look like that on current gen consoles, right? It also no doubt will run at 720p, when next gen consoles probably run it at 1080p and with much smoother effects overall. Also I'm sure curent gen consoles will be stressed just to run the game at 30 frames per second, and even with that will probably have screen tearing and/or slowdowns. But we don't need new consoles. Pffft.
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#31 ebrezzy1
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I'd say we need NEW consoles

Judging by all the Wii U interest ...

Not everyone is ready to buy whats next but they wanna see whats next

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#32 campzor
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probably not..but i still want next gen... watch dogs and beyond could look better
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Watch Dogs and Star Wars 1313 are completely PROOF we need next gen consoles. If you think the 360/PS3 versions of these will look anythign like what you saw then you'll be greatly dissapointed sir. I think its time for native resolution 1080p console games.

SRTtoZ

1080p is aiming a bit low don' t you think?

You expect next gen to be higher than 1080p? Even though the standard TV is 720/1080p?

No way next gen consoles will aim higher than that.

Going from 720p and less to 30fps and less, all the way to 1080p at 60fps, real AA, DX11 etc, would be the absolute best they should aim for.
Even on PC 2560X1440/1600 is a pain on the GPU for some games. Aiming for that on next gen consoles would be a complete waste of ressources.

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[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="Totalgym9000"]Halo 4, the last of us, resident evil 6, assassins creed 3, god of war a, and beyond all looked amazing to me, and i'm totally happy with games looking like that for years to come, PC gamers just gotta hate, but games have become so optimized for consoles it's amazing what developers can do.Grey_Eyed_Elf

So PC gamers are the only ones who want new consoles ? :?

That's because we don't want to play multi-platform games for the next 5 years that are all on the same engines... I know what some of you people are saying though but you don't realise that your are looking at the current situation from a strong idealist point of view, wake up and realise you are being milked 24/7 by DLC and sequal's that barely make an effort to move forward from their last game that came out a year ago...I remember when seqeauls use to mean something and use to excited me but now all they are is literaly the same game.

  • Call of Duty 1 to Call of Duty 2... amazing.
  • Half-Life to Half life 2... jaw dropping.

... Because of consoles we have had the same Call of Duty for the past 5 years and because of your mentality we had Half Life 2 episodes instead of Half Life 3. Wake up!

I'd say that Call of Duty is because gamers who buys it out of ignorance and sheep mentality.Same for ¤¬¦¤²@² DLC...
Pretty much the effect of casualisitation I'd say.
Same reason some why some don't want new consoles, I've seen it a lot personnally and it is because they have NO idea that consoles are not cutting edge anymore and things can be much better.

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#35 Pug-Nasty
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We could use new consoles, both with massive ram updates and standard Blu-ray and HDDs. Minor upgrades to the processors and GPUs are all that is really needed.

Right now, graphical fidelity isn't the issue, it's interactivity and physics being only basic in most games that are really holding games back. That being said, even if the tech were better there is no reason to think developers would make better games, because they don't seem to be trying as it is.

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#36 Kashiwaba
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Watch dogs made me realize how current gen is outdated lol and I'm one of the people who insist that graohics are not important but man that game was the only thing that wowed me so far in this E3 gameplay wise + graphics wise.