Ways to decrease videogame piracy..

Nothing is going to stop piracy.U have a better chance of world peace.

Nothing is going to stop piracy.U have a better chance of world peace.

MJPK

everyone allready has xbl... because of a month free thats going to stop piracy? lol

Nothing is going to stop piracy.U have a better chance of world peace.

MJPK

Maybe in the future something will come out.

Start making examples out of people. Throw them in Jail for 10 years, 5 years, 15 years, fines of $100,000+ and we'll see who still pirates.

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Nothing is going to stop piracy.U have a better chance of world peace.

Yandere

Maybe in the future something will come out.

Self destructing consoles ;)......wait maybe thats what the RRoD is :P

Piracy is only increasing with everybody being broke. Including myself:oops:

Start making examples out of people. Throw them in Jail for 10 years, 5 years, 15 years, fines of $100,000+ and we'll see who still pirates.

The__Havoc

People still do drugs. People still murder. People still rob B&M stores.

Your "example" has proven to be unsuccessful. In many cases, though, it fuels defiant behavior. Many people who smoke "illegal substances" shouldn't be thrown in jail, though. It's a waste of money, as alcohol can be just as or even more damaging.

Valve way is the best way. Give those who actually buy the games plenty of benefits and limit the pirates even more.

if they sold top notch games for 29. 99. crappy games for 15 . no one would get their systems modded. so that would cut it down almost to nothing. even some modders wouldnt go threw the hassle, if games were cheaper.

while you can't stop all piracy you can decrease it. the best way to decrease it is with a good online network that authenticates and low prices for games. i'm talking 10-20 bucks a game not 60. the higher the games go the more piracy will be worth it.Ontain

Yes $10-$20 a game. This is a business not a freaking charity. People who get caught pirating should just get minimum 5 years in prison 10 years max. Possible penalties of $100,000 minimum. We'll see who's willing to pirate after that.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]while you can't stop all piracy you can decrease it. the best way to decrease it is with a good online network that authenticates and low prices for games. i'm talking 10-20 bucks a game not 60. the higher the games go the more piracy will be worth it.The__Havoc

Yes $10-$20 a game. This is a business not a freaking charity. People who get caught pirating should just get minimum 5 years in prison 10 years max. Possible penalties of $100,000 minimum. We'll see who's willing to pirate after that.

Like he was saying, better prices and constant updates with benefits for those who buy the game which become a pain in the ass to acquire for those who pirate it is the best.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]while you can't stop all piracy you can decrease it. the best way to decrease it is with a good online network that authenticates and low prices for games. i'm talking 10-20 bucks a game not 60. the higher the games go the more piracy will be worth it.The__Havoc

Yes $10-$20 a game. This is a business not a freaking charity. People who get caught pirating should just get minimum 5 years in prison 10 years max. Possible penalties of $100,000 minimum. We'll see who's willing to pirate after that.

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[QUOTE="Ontain"]while you can't stop all piracy you can decrease it. the best way to decrease it is with a good online network that authenticates and low prices for games. i'm talking 10-20 bucks a game not 60. the higher the games go the more piracy will be worth it.Dystopian-X

Yes $10-$20 a game. This is a business not a freaking charity. People who get caught pirating should just get minimum 5 years in prison 10 years max. Possible penalties of $100,000 minimum. We'll see who's willing to pirate after that.

Like he was saying, better prices and constant updates with benefits for those who buy the game which become a pain in the ass to acquire for those who pirate it is the best.

You make an example out of a group and we'll see how willing people are after that. Devs have been putting in more work to their games then ever before and yet so many people complain about things. DON'T BUY IT! Save your money and by used car from Raditz. Its only over $9000!

[QUOTE="Ontain"]while you can't stop all piracy you can decrease it. the best way to decrease it is with a good online network that authenticates and low prices for games. i'm talking 10-20 bucks a game not 60. the higher the games go the more piracy will be worth it.The__Havoc

Yes $10-$20 a game. This is a business not a freaking charity. People who get caught pirating should just get minimum 5 years in prison 10 years max. Possible penalties of $100,000 minimum. We'll see who's willing to pirate after that.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]while you can't stop all piracy you can decrease it. the best way to decrease it is with a good online network that authenticates and low prices for games. i'm talking 10-20 bucks a game not 60. the higher the games go the more piracy will be worth it.The__Havoc

Yes $10-$20 a game. This is a business not a freaking charity. People who get caught pirating should just get minimum 5 years in prison 10 years max. Possible penalties of $100,000 minimum. We'll see who's willing to pirate after that.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]while you can't stop all piracy you can decrease it. the best way to decrease it is with a good online network that authenticates and low prices for games. i'm talking 10-20 bucks a game not 60. the higher the games go the more piracy will be worth it.The__Havoc

Yes $10-$20 a game. This is a business not a freaking charity. People who get caught pirating should just get minimum 5 years in prison 10 years max. Possible penalties of $100,000 minimum. We'll see who's willing to pirate after that.

You're willing to give pirates a higher punishment than robbery and illegal drug posession?!

[QUOTE="Ontain"]while you can't stop all piracy you can decrease it. the best way to decrease it is with a good online network that authenticates and low prices for games. i'm talking 10-20 bucks a game not 60. the higher the games go the more piracy will be worth it.The__Havoc

Yes $10-$20 a game. This is a business not a freaking charity. People who get caught pirating should just get minimum 5 years in prison 10 years max. Possible penalties of $100,000 minimum. We'll see who's willing to pirate after that.

Because harsh penalities has worked brilliantly for the music industry, and it's halted piracy completely. :roll:

That wouldn't stop console pirates, considering most of them tend to play one game and move onto the next and never go online. Since you know, they never have to get "value" for their "money" when playing games.

Nothing can stop piracy. The only thing developers and publishers can do is give incentive to the "on-the-fence" pirates (who buy and pirate games) to actually buy all the games they play. There is no stopping the swashbuckling, game-cracking pirates. They don't even play the games, they pride themselves in cracking them and making them available online.

Yes $10-$20 a game. This is a business not a freaking charity. People who get caught pirating should just get minimum 5 years in prison 10 years max. Possible penalties of $100,000 minimum. We'll see who's willing to pirate after that.

The__Havoc

You make an example out of a group and we'll see how willing people are after that. Devs have been putting in more work to their games then ever before and yet so many people complain about things. DON'T BUY IT! Save your money and by used car from Raditz. Its only over $9000!

The__Havoc

It's not like you are the first one to suggest or even try passing something similar but the problem is deeper than that when trying to get so many of these ppl prosecuted and even if they did get some of them (which they already had before) at this point it would hardly stop anything.

Include interesting peripherals with physical copies, at least release a demo or free trial, make the game convincing (by having interaction with the community, that helps a lot), put less money into marketing tricks and build up a positive reputation. Figure out a way to let people lend or resell digital downloaded copies.
Don't mess things up for legal buyers (disabling software or having troublesome security or asking for unnecesary private information before being able to play it.)

That wouldn't stop piracy but it would help, i think.

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Yes $10-$20 a game. This is a business not a freaking charity. People who get caught pirating should just get minimum 5 years in prison 10 years max. Possible penalties of $100,000 minimum. We'll see who's willing to pirate after that.

The__Havoc

Like he was saying, better prices and constant updates with benefits for those who buy the game which become a pain in the ass to acquire for those who pirate it is the best.

You make an example out of a group and we'll see how willing people are after that. Devs have been putting in more work to their games then ever before and yet so many people complain about things. DON'T BUY IT! Save your money and by used car from Raditz. Its only over $9000!

That worked great for USA government.. oh wait it didn't. That worked great for the Music industry... Oh wait it didn't... That worked great for the movie and game industry who tried to burn Piratebay in sweden, the biggest torrent site in the world... Oh wait it didn't, TPB just got world coverage and loads of support from all over the world including fueling the fonds of "pro-piracy parties" all over the world.

That wouldn't stop console pirates, considering most of them tend to play one game and move onto the next and never go online. Since you know, they never have to get "value" for their "money" when playing games.

Nothing can stop piracy. The only thing developers and publishers can do is give incentive to the "on-the-fence" pirates (who buy and pirate games) to actually buy all the games they play. There is no stopping the swashbuckling, game-cracking pirates. They don't even play the games, they pride themselves in cracking them and making them available online.

foxhound_fox

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That wouldn't stop console pirates, considering most of them tend to play one game and move onto the next and never go online. Since you know, they never have to get "value" for their "money" when playing games.

Nothing can stop piracy. The only thing developers and publishers can do is give incentive to the "on-the-fence" pirates (who buy and pirate games) to actually buy all the games they play. There is no stopping the swashbuckling, game-cracking pirates. They don't even play the games, they pride themselves in cracking them and making them available online.

KungfuKitten

I don't think the number of those who crack it "for fun" is an actual threat compared to those who download the games and play them that would've probably bought them if they had no choice or had a better one buying it rather than downloading it illegally.

Dystopian-X

while you can't stop all piracy you can decrease it. the best way to decrease it is with a good online network that authenticates and low prices for games. i'm talking 10-20 bucks a game not 60. the higher the games go the more piracy will be worth it.Ontain

I thought this was ways to decrease piracy not ways to eliminate something that can't be eliminated

[QUOTE="Dystopian-X"] I don't think the number of those who crack it "for fun" is an actual threat compared to those who download the games and play them that would've probably bought them if they had no choice or had a better one buying it rather than downloading it illegally.

foxhound_fox

Nothing is going to stop piracy.U have a better chance of world peace.

MJPK

that's fun man. that's also very sad.

because the truth is, world peace is an impossible achievement.

Nothing is going to stop piracy.U have a better chance of world peace.

MJPK

blue ray disk they still haven't been able to crack that.

blue ray disk they still haven't been able to crack that.simslifer

blue ray disk they still haven't been able to crack that.

simslifer

[QUOTE="simslifer"]blue ray disk they still haven't been able to crack that.IronBass

So then maybe if they used formats that wouldn't be very benificial to pirate from (PS3 wins this with Blue-Ray while PS2,360, and Wii all fail because of DVD's). Of course then again, that would be a hassle and the cost of games would probably go up even more...

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Nothing is going to stop piracy.U have a better chance of world peace.

simslifer

blue ray disk they still haven't been able to crack that.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="simslifer"]blue ray disk they still haven't been able to crack that.CyberRuler

So then maybe if they used formats that wouldn't be very benificial to pirate from (PS3 wins this with Blue-Ray while PS2,360, and Wii all fail because of DVD's). Of course then again, that would be a hassle and the cost of games would probably go up even more...

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[QUOTE="IronBass"] They have. It's just not cost-effective. But it will someday.Ontain

So then maybe if they used formats that wouldn't be very benificial to pirate from (PS3 wins this with Blue-Ray while PS2,360, and Wii all fail because of DVD's). Of course then again, that would be a hassle and the cost of games would probably go up even more...

True true... I really don't see a way to stop piracy to be honest:(

True true... I really don't see a way to stop piracy to be honest:(CyberRuler

Start making examples out of people. Throw them in Jail for 10 years, 5 years, 15 years, fines of $100,000+ and we'll see who still pirates.

The__Havoc

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Start making examples out of people. Throw them in Jail for 10 years, 5 years, 15 years, fines of $100,000+ and we'll see who still pirates.

People still do drugs. People still murder. People still rob B&M stores.

Your "example" has proven to be unsuccessful. In many cases, though, it fuels defiant behavior. Many people who smoke "illegal substances" shouldn't be thrown in jail, though. It's a waste of money, as alcohol can be just as or even more damaging.

[QUOTE="CyberRuler"]True true... I really don't see a way to stop piracy to be honest:(IronBass

No matter how good the game is, no matter how much of their heart and soul developers pour into their game, no matter how much value they put into the game for its price... Piracy will continue simply because getting a great game for free will always be more appealing to most as opposed to spending money on something you could get for free. I for one am against piracy most of the time (unless the devs make it so I can't purchase the game in my country or they give people a reason like MW2 is for PC), but the fact remains that most people prefer piracy... not to mention countries in which piracy isn't illegal:(

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="CyberRuler"]True true... I really don't see a way to stop piracy to be honest:(CyberRuler

No matter how good the game is, no matter how much of their heart and soul developers pour into their game, no matter how much value they put into the game for its price... Piracy will continue simply because getting a great game for free will always be more appealing to most as opposed to spending money on something you could get for free. I for one am against piracy most of the time (unless the devs make it so I can't purchase the game in my country or they give people a reason like MW2 is for PC), but the fact remains that most people prefer piracy... not to mention countries in which piracy isn't illegal:(

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[QUOTE="IronBass"] The only one is lowering the price of the games and offering enough reason to the costumer to buy original copies. But there again, with skyrocketing dev/publish costs, that's also difficult.subrosian

No matter how good the game is, no matter how much of their heart and soul developers pour into their game, no matter how much value they put into the game for its price... Piracy will continue simply because getting a great game for free will always be more appealing to most as opposed to spending money on something you could get for free. I for one am against piracy most of the time (unless the devs make it so I can't purchase the game in my country or they give people a reason like MW2 is for PC), but the fact remains that most people prefer piracy... not to mention countries in which piracy isn't illegal:(

Well I mean some in some countries (South America for example), it is perfectly acceptable to buy a modded PS2 and go to video game stores, where they a huge catalog of games that have been burnt onto blank DVD's and sell them for about $2 a game. I don't like the fact that they pirate, but I wouldn't exactly crack down on them either because it's not like their economy could allow them to pay anywhere between $70-$100 for a game due to import fees and such. Besides it's not like developers depend on sales from those places.

Developer's do, however depend on sales from countries like USA,U.K., and Japan. Those are the places piracy needs to stop.

how aboutyou just explain to everybody it's wrong.

Why are people equating file sharing/copyright infringement to theft? They're not even the same thing.

Nothing is going to stop piracy.U have a better chance of world peace.

MJPK