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System Wars, not Company Wars.Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
farrell2k
Before they were released for PC, yes. Then the "definitive versions" were released and made the Xbox versions defunct.
[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="farrell2k"]System Wars, not Company Wars. Logic, not fallacy. Sure its illogical, but thats System Wars. He's correct though, we argue systems, not companies. There's no getting around that.Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
farrell2k
[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]Same here. I look at it this way if I am comparing PS3 vs Xbox the Xbox can play Halo and the PS3 cant. But you don't need an XBox to play Halo.ive always considered halo exclusive to xbox but i only pay attention to console games
Ugalde-
PC is not a Microsoft Platform kind sir.Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive. Exclusive as in competitors are excluded.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
farrell2k
[QUOTE="Ugalde-"][QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]Same here. I look at it this way if I am comparing PS3 vs Xbox the Xbox can play Halo and the PS3 cant. But you don't need an XBox to play Halo. I was talking about PS3 vs Xbox and you cant play Halo on a PS3.ive always considered halo exclusive to xbox but i only pay attention to console games
PannicAtack
Sure and they still are.. Console exclusives or if you insist & prefer... PS2/GC/ PS3/ Wii or any other console .... Excluded.. :P
Sure its illogical, but thats System Wars. He's correct though, we argue systems, not companies. There's no getting around that. All of you argue systems from Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony. O.K. Let's examine the systems.[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="farrell2k"] Logic, not fallacy.farrell2k
MS systems are the 360 and the Windows OS.
Sony has the PS2, PSP, and the PS3.
Nintendo has the DS and the Wii.
In order to make any sense whatsoever, you have to do so knowing and understand that MS, Nintendo, and Sony do not compete with themselves. A 1st party game on the DS doesn't compete with a 1st party game on the Wii. All the profit goes to Nintendo. Thus a game released on NIntendo systems is an exclusive. The same goes for Halo. Exclusivity means: Not available to your competitors. Anyone who believes otherwise is just plain wrong.
Understanding this is contingent upon moving past many of the nonsensical beliefs that most have around here, however.
I didn't have to bother reading that, you're 100% missing the point. Nobody argues companies, they argue SYSTEMS. In the real world, sure, its company exclusive. In System Wars, that doesn't mean a damn thing. I do understand, thats all fine and dandy, but you're not going to change SYSTEM Wars into something its not. Better just get used to it.
Sure its illogical, but thats System Wars. He's correct though, we argue systems, not companies. There's no getting around that. All of you argue systems from Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony. O.K. Let's examine the systems.[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="farrell2k"] Logic, not fallacy.farrell2k
MS systems are the 360 and the Windows OS.
Sony has the PS2, PSP, and the PS3.
Nintendo has the DS and the Wii.
In order to make any sense whatsoever, you have to do so knowing and understand that MS, Nintendo, and Sony do not compete with themselves. A 1st party game on the DS doesn't compete with a 1st party game on the Wii. All the profit goes to Nintendo. Thus a game released on NIntendo systems is an exclusive. The same goes for Halo. Exclusivity means: Not available to your competitors. Anyone who believes otherwise is just plain wrong.
Understanding this is contingent upon moving past many of the nonsensical beliefs that most have around here, however.
That's assuming the argument is always what company is performing best, making more profit and/or producing the best games. Often that is not the case. Arguments are usually "whichsystemline-ups are the best"; and in that case there is no doubt that a platform exclusive game has more weight than a company exclusive game.
Let's say for example we take the top ten games on PS3 and the top ten games on Xbox 360. Let's say for the sake of argument that all 10 Xbox 360 games are only company exclusive because they are on both 360 and PC. Now let's say all PS3 games are on PS3 only. In this case, the fact is that to play all of the 360's best games, I don't need to own a 360. The fact that the other platform is still a Microsoft platform is irrelevant to me, because if I have a PC I have absolutely no reason to buy a 360, and that is a strong argument against the 360. On the other hand, if I want to play the PS3's best games, I need to buy a PS3, no other way around it.
All of you argue systems from Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony. O.K. Let's examine the systems.MS systems are the 360 and the Windows OS.Sony has the PS2, PSP, and the PS3.Nintendo has the DS and the Wii.In order to make any sense whatsoever, you have to do so knowing and understand that MS, Nintendo, and Sony do not compete with themselves. A 1st party game on the DS doesn't compete with a 1st party game on the Wii. All the profit goes to Nintendo. Thus a game released on NIntendo systems is an exclusive. The same goes for Halo. Exclusivity means: Not available to your competitors. Anyone who believes otherwise is just plain wrong.Understanding this is contingent upon moving past many of the nonsensical beliefs that most have around here, howeverfarrell2kI see there seems to be a misunderstanding. I, and most people here, have no allegiance to any company. Which company has a better quarterly report doesn't matter to the gamers here. All we're particularly concerned about are the games, and the gaming systems. Why should I care which mega-corporation makes a profit? That's why we argue about the systems. Perhaps you've been looking for the Forbes forums?
Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive. Exclusive as in competitors are excluded.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
farrell2k
Welcome to SYSTEM wars, as others said its not comapny wars. Feel free to say what is logical and what isnt, but the truth is logic doesnt belong here, if you dont like it then there are other forums, sadly thats the way it works.
You still aren't telling me how the games are not exclusive. They're not playable exclusively on a system.[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]Let's say for example we take the top ten games on PS3 and the top ten games on Xbox 360. Let's say for the sake of argument that all 10 Xbox 360 games are only company exclusive because they are on both 360 and PC. Now let's say all PS3 games are on PS3 only. In this case, the fact is that to play all of the 360's best games, I don't need to own a 360. The fact that the other platform is still a Microsoft platform is irrelevant to me, because if I have a PC I have absolutely no reason to buy a 360, and that is a strong argument against the 360. On the other hand, if I want to play the PS3's best games, I need to buy a PS3, no other way around it.
farrell2k
You still aren't telling me how the games are not exclusive. Because they are not limited to a single system? This is SYSTEM wars. Being on more than one SYSTEM = not exclusive.[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]Let's say for example we take the top ten games on PS3 and the top ten games on Xbox 360. Let's say for the sake of argument that all 10 Xbox 360 games are only company exclusive because they are on both 360 and PC. Now let's say all PS3 games are on PS3 only. In this case, the fact is that to play all of the 360's best games, I don't need to own a 360. The fact that the other platform is still a Microsoft platform is irrelevant to me, because if I have a PC I have absolutely no reason to buy a 360, and that is a strong argument against the 360. On the other hand, if I want to play the PS3's best games, I need to buy a PS3, no other way around it.
farrell2k
I can play Halo 1 on my Mac.Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive. Exclusive as in competitors are excluded.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
farrell2k
[QUOTE="farrell2k"]You still aren't telling me how the games are not exclusive. Because they are not limited to a single system? This is SYSTEM wars. Being on more than one SYSTEM = not exclusive.Tehe, I love this stuff, something like teh duel edged blade that ya know, cuts both ways. wait for it....[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]Let's say for example we take the top ten games on PS3 and the top ten games on Xbox 360. Let's say for the sake of argument that all 10 Xbox 360 games are only company exclusive because they are on both 360 and PC. Now let's say all PS3 games are on PS3 only. In this case, the fact is that to play all of the 360's best games, I don't need to own a 360. The fact that the other platform is still a Microsoft platform is irrelevant to me, because if I have a PC I have absolutely no reason to buy a 360, and that is a strong argument against the 360. On the other hand, if I want to play the PS3's best games, I need to buy a PS3, no other way around it.
Skittles_McGee
Halo 1, 2, 3, ODST and soon.. Reach... all are exclu..., wait no, no, no they are all...
" PS3/Wii/ and all other consoles ever created - Excluded "
But no doubt, , you can if you like play Halo 1 & 2 on the PC. :twisted:
You still aren't telling me how the games are not exclusive.[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]Let's say for example we take the top ten games on PS3 and the top ten games on Xbox 360. Let's say for the sake of argument that all 10 Xbox 360 games are only company exclusive because they are on both 360 and PC. Now let's say all PS3 games are on PS3 only. In this case, the fact is that to play all of the 360's best games, I don't need to own a 360. The fact that the other platform is still a Microsoft platform is irrelevant to me, because if I have a PC I have absolutely no reason to buy a 360, and that is a strong argument against the 360. On the other hand, if I want to play the PS3's best games, I need to buy a PS3, no other way around it.
farrell2k
Because it's on more than one system. Therefore, it does not have exclusivity on that system. Saying that it is "company exclusive" is a correct statement, but as I showed above something that is exclusive to a particular system rather than a company has more value and weight in many contexts.
[QUOTE="farrell2k"]I can play Halo 1 on my Mac. Well, that's that, then.Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive. Exclusive as in competitors are excluded.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
Zero_epyon
[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="farrell2k"]System Wars, not Company Wars. Logic, not fallacy. falicy confirmed they run on mac/linuxExclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
farrell2k
Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive. Exclusive as in competitors are excluded.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
farrell2k
How can it be 'company exclusive' if its also available on the Mac?
http://uk.gamespot.com/mac/action/halo/index.html?tag=result;title;2
*Sits back and waits for a newdefinition of exclusiveto be made*
[QUOTE="farrell2k"]
Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive. Exclusive as in competitors are excluded.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
shutdown_202
How can it be 'company exclusive' if its also available on the Mac?
http://uk.gamespot.com/mac/action/halo/index.html?tag=result;title;2
*Sits back and waits for a newdefinition of exclusiveto be made*
Congrats, you hit the nail on the head. loldude, that's because there was a huge thread about it..... in which the cows won by far.Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive. Exclusive as in competitors are excluded.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
farrell2k
You still aren't telling me how the games are not exclusive.[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]Let's say for example we take the top ten games on PS3 and the top ten games on Xbox 360. Let's say for the sake of argument that all 10 Xbox 360 games are only company exclusive because they are on both 360 and PC. Now let's say all PS3 games are on PS3 only. In this case, the fact is that to play all of the 360's best games, I don't need to own a 360. The fact that the other platform is still a Microsoft platform is irrelevant to me, because if I have a PC I have absolutely no reason to buy a 360, and that is a strong argument against the 360. On the other hand, if I want to play the PS3's best games, I need to buy a PS3, no other way around it.
farrell2k
We do not follow the real definition of exclusive here, either. :P
I know it isn't particularly on topic, but I've always found this funny
[QUOTE="farrell2k"]System Wars, not Company Wars. But those two systems are fairly closely related, its too bad shadow run didn't gain more popularity, pc and 360 players playing together! It was a good game, but essentially 12 maps and some good MP, that was it though...Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
II-FBIsniper-II
they were exclusive to xbox until they went to the pc, as well.Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive. Exclusive as in competitors are excluded.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
farrell2k
You still aren't telling me how the games are not exclusive. until they went to the PC, both titles could only be played on an xbox. that's exclusive, if you ask me. now, no, they aren't exclusive.[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]Let's say for example we take the top ten games on PS3 and the top ten games on Xbox 360. Let's say for the sake of argument that all 10 Xbox 360 games are only company exclusive because they are on both 360 and PC. Now let's say all PS3 games are on PS3 only. In this case, the fact is that to play all of the 360's best games, I don't need to own a 360. The fact that the other platform is still a Microsoft platform is irrelevant to me, because if I have a PC I have absolutely no reason to buy a 360, and that is a strong argument against the 360. On the other hand, if I want to play the PS3's best games, I need to buy a PS3, no other way around it.
farrell2k
Exactly.Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive. Exclusive as in competitors are excluded.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
farrell2k
[QUOTE="farrell2k"]System Wars, not Company Wars.Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
II-FBIsniper-II
So i guess LBP is not ps3 exclusive since it was released on the PSP..
System Wars, not Company Wars.[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="farrell2k"]
Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
Modern_Unit
So i guess LBP is not ps3 exclusive since it was released on the PSP..
It is still considered exclusive because the game isn't the same as the PS3 version. However, MLB The Show isn't considered exclusive because the the only difference between the PS2/PS3 versions was graphics.[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="farrell2k"]System Wars, not Company Wars. Logic, not fallacy. I agree with you to an extent, but not on your argument. Microsoft does not own the PC platform, they own the OS. The difference is, they don't get revenue from very PC game, they don't have any real involvement with every game like they do with all 360 platform games.Exclusive to Microsoft.
If a game is exclusive to one company's OS and or console, then it is exclusive.
No one here seems to know or to be able to understand this, but when your product is only available through you, it is an exclusive product; Otherwise, it is non-exclusive and available through other means.
A game published only for MS systems is a MS exclusive. Platforms cannot be the deciding factor for exclusivity, as a company may own more than one platform.
farrell2k
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