"We're Ready," Microsoft Says About Xbox One-PS4 Cross-Play

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#51 Pedro
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@davillain- said:

Just to clarify things, Sony & MS are all about business and making money. Sony/MS hardly cares about the console wars as much as gamers have been lately, if Sony sees this as good for business and get more money out of this cross-play, they will gladly take this deal. At the end of the day, it's all about business, plain and simple.

Nonsense. Sony cares about gamers and their feelings. MS cares about gamers and their feelings. You are just a casual that doesn't understand. :P

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#52 TerminalyInsane
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It would be nice but I don't see it happening.

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#53  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@Pedro: Comeback to me when you know how to run a gaming business organization :)

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@flyincloud1116 said:
@BigShotSmoov007 said:

@flyincloud1116:

Isn't Sony about the gamers as everyone likes to say in here. They give gamers what they want so why not open up the online field for everyone to play with each other.

Yeah, there is nothing wrong with being for the gamers, but you have a business to run. They could and probably would lose consoles sales, so from a business stand point, they should say no.

Sony was selling consoles when they had little games on it. Even Sony didn't even know why they was selling so much at one point so this wouldn't hurt their consoles sales one bit LOL.

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#55 Flyincloud1116
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@davillain- said:

@Pedro: Comeback to me when you know how to run a gaming business organization :)

Look at him, you think he knows how to run anything. He doesn't even have a nose.

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#56  Edited By kvally
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The cows are hilarious. They be all like...

Sony: "We have opened our network to allow Xbox Live to connect to our gamers"

Cows:

Microsoft: "We have opened our network to allow PSN to connect to our gamers"

Cows:

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#57 Draign
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@flyincloud1116 said:
@BigShotSmoov007 said:

@flyincloud1116:

Isn't Sony about the gamers as everyone likes to say in here. They give gamers what they want so why not open up the online field for everyone to play with each other.

Yeah, there is nothing wrong with being for the gamers, but you have a business to run. They could and probably would lose consoles sales, so from a business stand point, they should say no.

Anti-gamers gonna anti-game.

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#58 tormentos
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So is true then, only at the edge of the precipice is that we change our ways.

Hopes sony goes for it,after always Sony has always been open online.

@mems_1224 said:

Pretty smart PR move. If Sony gets in on this then all gamers benifit and it's yet another pro consumer move from MS. If Sony backs away and runs(which they will) MS will make them look like liars.

It is a pro consumer move one sony took last gen and that was only MS the one not wanting it to happen,is good that they change their mind.

@gago-gago said:

I doubt Sony are brave enough to step in the cage. They rather cater to their loner gamer consumers and give them single player VR experiences than support more cross-play multiplayer battles. The term cow was also derived from "cow"ards so it's not a surprise if Sony and their fans are too scared to step up.

My god is like you started gaming yesterday.

Microsoft however, is currently not allowing such at thing on the Xbox One, according to Gaijin Entertainment CEO Anton Yudintsev. Yudintsev explained to GameSpot at GDC that War Thunder is not going to be coming to Xbox One, leaving fans of the consoles who’ve had their eye on the game after the beta test, out of luck. He claims that Microsoft’s reasoning for the lack of cross-platform play is Microsoft’s need to certify game servers to ensure a “good experience” for all players.

http://gamerant.com/pc-xbox-one-crossplay/

sony did it since the PS3 and allowed mods to.

It goes to show what competition will do and how it will force companies to change strategies.

If only sony would have not decide to charge for online this gen i am sure MS would have drop it as well.

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#59  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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If anyone thinks MS would have done this if they were leading in sales, they're crazy.

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#60 Draign
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

If anyone thinks MS would have done this if they were leading in sales, they're crazy.

Ive been to that alternate universe...they did do it.

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#61  Edited By aroxx_ab
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I though Phil Spencer didnt like console/system wars? :D

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#62 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@draign: when?

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#63  Edited By kvally
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@draign: when?

Final Fantasy XI Online (Xbox 360, PS2 and PC) and Shadow Run( Xbox 360 and PC) off the top of my head.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

If anyone thinks MS would have done this if they were leading in sales, they're crazy.

No they would not. 360 proves that.

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#65 Ten_Pints
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Where was this sentiment last gen I wonder.

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#66 kvally
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@ten_pints said:

Where was this sentiment last gen I wonder.

Mattrick...since 2007 was the biggest problem. Phil Spencer is like, GTFO, it's about gaming now. **** you Mattrick and your TV and Kinect BS, lets make a console and make a game console about...GAMES.

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#67 Shewgenja
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Just use the XBox One's best feature if you want to play on PSN.

Connect a PS4 to the HDMI input.

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@davillain- said:

Just to clarify things, Sony & MS are all about business and making money. Sony/MS hardly cares about the console wars as much as gamers have been lately, if Sony sees this as good for business and get more money out of this cross-play, they will gladly take this deal. At the end of the day, it's all about business, plain and simple.

That is common sense, and clarifies nothing.

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#69 kvally
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@Shewgenja said:

Just use the XBox One's best feature if you want to play on PSN.

Connect a PS4 to the HDMI input.

That's what I do! I snap back and forth between them and play games sometimes.

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#70 Shmiity
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I think overall this would be a positive thing, and a gamer-positive message. Buy whichever console you want, but be able to play with friends who own a different machine. I'm all for it

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@flyincloud1116 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

If anyone thinks MS would have done this if they were leading in sales, they're crazy.

No they would not. 360 proves that.

Indeed the Xbox 360 proves that as well.

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@kvally said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@draign: when?

Final Fantasy XI Online (Xbox 360, PS2 and PC) and Shadow Run( Xbox 360 and PC) off the top of my head.

Beat me to it.

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#73 kvally
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@cainetao11 said:
@kvally said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@draign: when?

Final Fantasy XI Online (Xbox 360, PS2 and PC) and Shadow Run( Xbox 360 and PC) off the top of my head.

Beat me to it.

Slacker. :)

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@kvally said:

The cows are hilarious. They be all like...

Sony: "We have opened our network to allow Xbox Live to connect to our gamers"

Cows:

Microsoft: "We have opened our network to allow PSN to connect to our gamers"

Cows:

Not going to lie, that was funny.

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@kvally said:
@cainetao11 said:
@kvally said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@draign: when?

Final Fantasy XI Online (Xbox 360, PS2 and PC) and Shadow Run( Xbox 360 and PC) off the top of my head.

Beat me to it.

Slacker. :)

Stuck in a stutter lol

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#76 skektek
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Awkward. I feel bad for Microsoft. They are basically begging for scraps.

"Sir, will you play with me? I promise I won't be much of a bother...no...well maybe next time?"

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#77 DarkrecoN
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Sony won't do this because there's no money to make from this for them. They will reply with the same old arrogant shit as they always do

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#78  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@kvally: so they did it with Sony once....and PC twice.

Makes my point.

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#80 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@cainetao11 said:
@kvally said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@draign: when?

Final Fantasy XI Online (Xbox 360, PS2 and PC) and Shadow Run( Xbox 360 and PC) off the top of my head.

Beat me to it.

@davillain- said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

If anyone thinks MS would have done this if they were leading in sales, they're crazy.

No they would not. 360 proves that.

Indeed the Xbox 360 proves that as well.

One or 2 games is not proving your point.

Are MS not asking for full cross platform?

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#81 TheNDefender
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Do you think Nintendo will let DeNa and Microsoft help the NX get cross platform play done for them? Because Nintendo's not very good at doing online infrastructures.

I might be wrong though, but I do hope they eventually include Nintendo in this new formula of gaming.

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#82  Edited By AzatiS
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@SecretPolice: I wonder if MS was winning this generation by far ... would have been ready then ? I dont think so.

Besides having Crossplay right now wont benefit SONY , only MS and since they are rivals ... ehm ! I doubt SONY will do such a thing anytime soon. But you never know

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#84 Pedro
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@davillain- said:

@Pedro: Comeback to me when you know how to run a gaming business organization :)

Sarcasm buddy and your response makes no sense even if it wasn't sarcasm.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@cainetao11 said:
@kvally said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@draign: when?

Final Fantasy XI Online (Xbox 360, PS2 and PC) and Shadow Run( Xbox 360 and PC) off the top of my head.

Beat me to it.

@davillain- said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

If anyone thinks MS would have done this if they were leading in sales, they're crazy.

No they would not. 360 proves that.

Indeed the Xbox 360 proves that as well.

One or 2 games is not proving your point.

Are MS not asking for full cross platform?

Kinda did prove the point that they have been involved with cross platform before. Somebody here keeps bringing up on cross play Nintendo/Sony game. I asked for more references than that and have received no response.

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@cainetao11: not really.

System wide cross platform is not the same as 1 or 2 cult hits.

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@AzatiS said:

@SecretPolice: I wonder if MS was winning this generation by far ... would have been ready then ? I dont think so.

Besides having Crossplay right now wont benefit SONY , only MS and since they are rivals ... ehm ! I doubt SONY will do such a thing anytime soon. But you never know

If these companies had been taking in feedback to the extent they are this gen maybe. People have been saying it for a while.

As for what benefits a company, how does accepting this hamper Sony? They are the ones saying "this is for the players". Back it up now. Its not going to hurt them. Let players of multiplat MP play with each other. Evolve the industry.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@cainetao11: not really.

System wide cross platform is not the same as 1 or 2 cult hits.

ok. Still have done it in the past. Players and devs seem open to this with the exception of cows here it seems.

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#89 xhawk27
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Sony for the gamers, if they don't do this all that BS goes out the Window.

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@cainetao11: everyone is on board except the ppl who would be giving up their bigger user base and getting nothing out of it.

Just bc I can see it from Sony's standpoint doesn't make me s cow.

They don't gain anything from it and they're the ones with the bigger instal base.

Now in contrast if you're a lemming fanboy you're all for it you're all "cows are being stupid'.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@cainetao11: everyone is on board except the ppl who would be giving up their bigger user base and getting nothing out of it.

Just bc I can see it from Sony's standpoint doesn't make me s cow.

They don't gain anything from it and they're the ones with the bigger instal base.

Now in contrast if you're a lemming fanboy you're all for it you're all "cows are being stupid'.

Not every game is going to support cross-platform play. Don't you want to play a game like Titanfall 2 against Xbox gamers.

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@cainetao11: furthermore if you think Sony would have asked to do this when the 360 was killing the PS3 and you don't think MS would have laughed at them......you're just not being smart.

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#93  Edited By SolidTy
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Xbox should have done this last gen when they were on top, but where was their benefit? Now, the tables have turned.

Of course, "M$ is ready"...to allow Sony to help retain and make Xbox more money and grow marketshare. Help Xbox retain the Xbox fanbase and lower the incentive of Xboxers "switching over".

It would be cool if Xbox tried to do this last gen when they were leading. It's going to be hard to accomplish now that the sales lead got so one sided. Perhaps at the beginning of this gen, if both companies came to an agreement before the leader emerged, that would have been the way to go. Now in April 2016 when we both companies know the score and which machine is leading by a huge margin (PS4), politics get in the way because the market leader isn't ever going to want to do something that benefits the underdogs and cuts into the leading marketshare...just like last gen and the generations before that. There has to be a tangible benefit for both parties in business.

I have both machines since launch, and as I said since the PS2 vs. Xbox vs. GC days, sure it would be cool to see this kind of online connection, but I've learned over the decade+ on why we don't see it.

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@xhawk27 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@cainetao11: everyone is on board except the ppl who would be giving up their bigger user base and getting nothing out of it.

Just bc I can see it from Sony's standpoint doesn't make me s cow.

They don't gain anything from it and they're the ones with the bigger instal base.

Now in contrast if you're a lemming fanboy you're all for it you're all "cows are being stupid'.

Not every game is going to support cross-platform play. Don't you want to play a game like Titanfall 2 against Xbox gamers.

I really don't care. On one side, the more the merrier....on the other I don't feel like putting up with 12 year old fanboy System Wars bullshit while gaming.

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Would be hilarious if the other two called MS' bluff.

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@Chutebox said:

Would be hilarious if the other two called MS' bluff.

MS is doing this for real, this isn't a bluff. I hope both Sony and Nintendo allow this.

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#97  Edited By AzatiS
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@cainetao11 said:
@AzatiS said:

@SecretPolice: I wonder if MS was winning this generation by far ... would have been ready then ? I dont think so.

Besides having Crossplay right now wont benefit SONY , only MS and since they are rivals ... ehm ! I doubt SONY will do such a thing anytime soon. But you never know

If these companies had been taking in feedback to the extent they are this gen maybe. People have been saying it for a while.

As for what benefits a company, how does accepting this hamper Sony? They are the ones saying "this is for the players". Back it up now. Its not going to hurt them. Let players of multiplat MP play with each other. Evolve the industry.

Yeah and MS was saying we gonna fully support PCs for the last 10 years but they show some serious support now that X1 sales sinking.

You need to think not as a gamer but as a company.

SONY is the one that has a really hard time as of now , the last 10 years actually. With that being said if you agree on cross-play you making X1 more appealing to some tens of thousands ( maybe million , who knows) of hardcore multiplayer gamers that would choose a platform based on its population rather than anything else , aka community , or which will be the lead platform for their favorite game or both.

With that being said why for Sony to promote crossplay when winning by far sales wise and the gap keeps getting bigger . Why to make this easier for its RIVAL while at the same time this means theyll lose money in the long run ?

It doesnt make any sense for SONY to agree with this crossplay with its main RIVAL at this moment at least. Thats my opinion.

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#98 tormentos
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@cainetao11 said:
@kvally said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@draign: when?

Final Fantasy XI Online (Xbox 360, PS2 and PC) and Shadow Run( Xbox 360 and PC) off the top of my head.

Beat me to it.

The xbox arrived late at that party PC and PS2 got there early,in fact FFXl came in summer 2002,the PS2 was barely 2 years and 3 months,MS allowed the game to be in a good mood with square every body knows that and released on 2006,shadow fall was about the only one and was after FF did it on PS2,after that MS used as excuse that PC gamers destroyed consoles gamer to block online between platforms.

This show you how advance was sony vs xbox live while you payed $50 for online play to get a friend list on PS2 i was playing online with PC gamers free.

Sony's vision was to great long live sony.

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This has been a long time coming, I'm pleased to see this finally come to pass.

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Be nice to have Xbox one and PC gamers link up online. People already have advantages, so scrw that argument.