Were the HD consoles really more powerful than PCs at launch?

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#151 menes777
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Nope, not even close. loosingENDS

Then why 360 runs Witcher 2, Crysis 1-2 near high

And 2005 Geforce 7800GTX cant even start those games

360 GPU was miles ahead of anything in 2005 on PC

Same as xbox 720 GPU will be miles ahead of the best PC hardware in 2013

If by near high you mean medium to low, sure that's near high. :lol:

LOL how Reach thinks it's the Magicbox 360 and somehow has magical technology that's been gimped down so it won't overheat and need a large power supply but outperforms PC that is setup for greater power consumption and heat flow. :lol:

It would be really sad if he really thought that. No wonder companies think consumers are stupid enough to fall for their lies and misinformation. You have idiots like this that make them believe it.

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#152 clone01
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How mature. Just makes you look like an idiot when you go into threads and say that you don't care. It doesn't annoy me. You can do that to all my threads. It bumps the thread for me which is nice.

arto1223

It annoyed you enough to respond to it. And the point of the response was really just a way of saying "what the f**ck does it matter?" That's a completely valid opinion to share on a gaming forum.

And I'm happy that I could help you bump your thread. Its seems to be of great importance to you.

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#153 gamespot4life
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Crysis came out in 2007....

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#154 clone01
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[QUOTE="GiantAssPanda"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

But spending only 300$ in 6 years and beeing able to still play games looking like Witcher 2, Gears 3, Crysis 1-2 seems infinilty better to me

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I'm actually not so sure if PC gaming is more expensive in the long run. I mean I buy a lot of games and where I live new console games are normally around 20 euros more expensive than PC games. And thanks to Steam/GOG/GMG/Gamersgate etc. sales older games can be bought with a pitiful amount of money.

And ask yourself, would you rather spend your money on top of the line hardware or overpriced software?

I rather spend my money on better and more efficient hardware. There's no real justification for console games being so much more expensive other than console manufacturers' greed.

Logic......you're using it. Stop doing that in SW. Consolites can't grasp it.

Actually, a lot of console owners can. Your problem is using LoosingEnds as an example of a reasonable human being.

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#155 glez13
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Well consoles this gen were like AMD vs. NVIDIA or vs. Intel. Yes the competition is usually stronger with more powerful high end products. But usually for the money you pay AMD packs a lot of power for cheap. Consoles this gen were something like that, they weren't the top of high end, but for what you payed they packed a lot of power. You had to pay more on PC to get something around the equivalent point.

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#156 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

So, in reality is has a near infinite effect, since 360 far outlasted 2005 PC hardware by a million miles, exactly because was so much better in its time of release

loosingENDS

Nope. it has zero effect on reality. It's just a number you can put into Wikipedia. No matter what hardware 360 had, it simply wasn't visible in games at launch. It;'s exactly the same thing as with PC hardware now. You can get the best GPU, but no game will make use of it's power. Same thing with 360 at launch, it had the hardware, but no games took advantage of it. Thus any power advantage 360 hardware might have had at launch was purely theoretical.

In the past console hardware at launch was so much more powerful than even unoptimized 1st gen games blew PC graphics away. 360 was the first console that offered such a small jump in power over PC that no launch game could blow PC away. They needed to learn how to utilise 360 power to make it shine and by the time they did, PC hardware was already way ahead.

If you had spend 100.000$ on PC hardware, yes

But the point is that xbox 360 is still relevant and 2005 PC hardware is for the garbage bin

Maybe we did not see a huge difference back then, but we see it today

If you dont count cost at all then PC wins indeed, if i could have a new graphics card every month for free, then would be better

But spending only 300$ in 6 years and beeing able to still play games looking like Witcher 2, Gears 3, Crysis 1-2 seems infinilty better to me

here is a video from a pc with ATI X1950(from 2005) running Crysis 2 with equal settings to xbox.

cry me a river...

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#157 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="heeeeeeeeeweeee"]

[QUOTE="heeeeeeeeeweeee"]

perfect dark zero had some good textures though even compared to pc games because it was 360 exclusive.

rasengan2552

n pc had no real big exclusives in 2005.

BF2 was the most popular game on any platform in 2005.

LOL no. World of Warcraft, CS:S, CS:1.6and Warcraft III were infinitely more popular.
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#158 mitu123
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

So, in reality is has a near infinite effect, since 360 far outlasted 2005 PC hardware by a million miles, exactly because was so much better in its time of release

loosingENDS

Nope. it has zero effect on reality. It's just a number you can put into Wikipedia. No matter what hardware 360 had, it simply wasn't visible in games at launch. It;'s exactly the same thing as with PC hardware now. You can get the best GPU, but no game will make use of it's power. Same thing with 360 at launch, it had the hardware, but no games took advantage of it. Thus any power advantage 360 hardware might have had at launch was purely theoretical.

In the past console hardware at launch was so much more powerful than even unoptimized 1st gen games blew PC graphics away. 360 was the first console that offered such a small jump in power over PC that no launch game could blow PC away. They needed to learn how to utilise 360 power to make it shine and by the time they did, PC hardware was already way ahead.

But spending only 300$ in 6 years and beeing able to still play games looking like Witcher 2, Gears 3, Crysis 1-2 seems infinilty better to me

Not maxed out either and running between 20-30FPS at 720p or less for some games.

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#159 ShadowMoses900
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TC what do they use to make games with? A 360 or a PC? How can they make something for a console that is more powerful than the system they develop the games on? They can't, the person who told you that is an idiot. A well upgraded PC will always be more powerful than consoles.