Whaat great exclusives did PC get this year? Can't think of much.

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#201 AdrianWerner
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Well, we just got Anno 2070 and imo that's the best game this year.

skrat_01

It really is all that, the sequel that those who enjoyed 1404 can look forward to?

Yes. It hugely expands and improves Anno formula, makes it fresh as hell and yet still feels delightfuly Anno.

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#202 milannoir
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lol y'all are still going on about this? you pc nerds sure are sensitive about your flop exclusives. :lol:

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Ah, I love it when one of those silly consolites makes one of those "pc haz no gamez" thread.

First he adds up ALL 3 consoles to try to support his pathetic claim, then gets owned as usual by long lists of awesome games, then claims the games are unknown (lol) or boring (this means they're too complicated for his limited intellectual capabilities).

You get 10 pages of ownage, and the guy comes back with "hur dur ya're all butthurt". Priceless :D

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#203 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="firefluff3"]

In his defence, PC didn't have many hard hitting exclusives at all. Most games listed are either indie games (not a problem, but still no big hitting ones) or glitchy games which scored no higher than 7.5 and are praised to hell and back. (Hard reset, Red orchestra, E.Y.E, Rift, Trackmania 2, Nuclear dawn, Stronghold 3, Avadon, and not to mention Killing Floor, STALKER)

I have nothing against PC gaming, I love it, but come on, PC gamers are always preaching about games that are glitchy and don't appeal to a huge audience.

firefluff3

You have no clue what you're talking about.

would you elaborate? This always happens here, Sony fanboys don't go on about infamous 2 when it scores a 7.5 and yet STALKER, Red Orchestra and E.Y.E are praised to hell and back by pc gamers. (not that I don't enjoy those games)

I'm basically saying a lot of PC games are less appealing to people because their for a more niche audience, It's just understandable why he thinks that there was no "hard hitting" exclusives this year.

Where do I start... You called Trackmania niche, that game has over 10 million userbase. Rift sold at least 2 million by now. Neither is buggy. Stalker also cleared up a couple of millions Stronghold 3 is crap, haven't seen anyone mention it.

Your comment about PC gamers "going on and on" is false, haven't seen those games being mentioned in recently. Cows made a million threads of damage control because of Infamous 2, and I've seen many say it's their favorite game this year.

Also, lol at how much importance you give gamespot scores. You also got the scores wrong, but that doesn't matter.

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#204 silversix_
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It has enough exclusives ty come again and even if it didn't (which clearly isn't the case) it has the best (by faaaaaaar) 3rd party and 3rd party games is what leads this gen.
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#205 Miketheman83
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I wouldn't play those low budget boring pc games if somebody paid me.
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#206 silversix_
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I wouldn't play those low budget boring pc games if somebody paid me.Miketheman83
U won't play TW2 if i gave you something like 10$? Clearly dumbasses do exist on GS forums.

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#207 Vesica_Prime
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]I wouldn't play those low budget boring pc games if somebody paid me.silversix_

U won't play TW2 if i gave you something like 10$? Clearly dumbasses do exist on GS forums.

There's sex in the Witcher 2, and I think he is probably too young to be viewing that.

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#208 ohthemanatee
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  1. Amnesia
  2. Hard Reset
  3. Avadon
  4. E.Y.E
  5. Sanctum

lundy86_4

if only they were released physically :(

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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]I wouldn't play those low budget boring pc games if somebody paid me.silversix_

U won't play TW2 if i gave you something like 10$? Clearly dumbasses do exist on GS forums.

Thats the only one I would play....and its coming to the 360. Coincidence?
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#210 silversix_
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]I wouldn't play those low budget boring pc games if somebody paid me.Miketheman83

U won't play TW2 if i gave you something like 10$? Clearly dumbasses do exist on GS forums.

Thats the only one I would play....and its coming to the 360. Coincidence?

Key word *coming*.

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#211 Vesica_Prime
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]I wouldn't play those low budget boring pc games if somebody paid me.Miketheman83

U won't play TW2 if i gave you something like 10$? Clearly dumbasses do exist on GS forums.

Thats the only one I would play....and its coming to the 360. Coincidence?

That you only like things because they're on your oh so precious Xbawks due to some inane loyalty you have to a corporation?

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#212 Miketheman83
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="silversix_"]U won't play TW2 if i gave you something like 10$? Clearly dumbasses do exist on GS forums.

Vesica_Prime

Thats the only one I would play....and its coming to the 360. Coincidence?

That you only like things because they're on your oh so precious Xbawks due to some loyalty you have to a corporation?

Its the only pc game worth playing. Thats why its coming to the 360.
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#213 NoodleFighter
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

  1. Amnesia
  2. Hard Reset
  3. Avadon
  4. E.Y.E
  5. Sanctum

ohthemanatee

if only they were released physically :(

Amnesia and Hard Reset do have retail releases except Hard Reset is pretty much limited to Poland and I believe Russia.

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#214 NoodleFighter
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="firefluff3"]

In his defence, PC didn't have many hard hitting exclusives at all. Most games listed are either indie games (not a problem, but still no big hitting ones) or glitchy games which scored no higher than 7.5 and are praised to hell and back. (Hard reset, Red orchestra, E.Y.E, Rift, Trackmania 2, Nuclear dawn, Stronghold 3, Avadon, and not to mention Killing Floor, STALKER)

I have nothing against PC gaming, I love it, but come on, PC gamers are always preaching about games that are glitchy and don't appeal to a huge audience.

firefluff3

You have no clue what you're talking about.

would you elaborate? This always happens here, Sony fanboys don't go on about infamous 2 when it scores a 7.5 and yet STALKER, Red Orchestra and E.Y.E are praised to hell and back by pc gamers. (not that I don't enjoy those games)

I'm basically saying a lot of PC games are less appealing to people because their for a more niche audience, It's just understandable why he thinks that there was no "hard hitting" exclusives this year.

Hmm Wii gamers do seem to be going Ape sh*t over the score SkyWard sword got. Scores don't get in the way for us because where not the ones hyping every single exclusive to AAA it's the PS3 gamers who are :P FFS if you've paid attention all year you'd see hype threads for every PS3 exclusive being hyped to AAA. We did not hype titles such as Hard Reset to AAA we were aiming around A-AA only for titles such as The Witcher 2 and Shogun 2 we would hype to AAA

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#215 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

  1. Amnesia
  2. Hard Reset
  3. Avadon
  4. E.Y.E
  5. Sanctum

NoodleFighter

if only they were released physically :(

Amnesia and Hard Reset do have retail releases except Hard Reset is pretty much limited to Poland and I believe Russia.

yeah I heard of those... but you know what I meant :P

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#216 Kankaseni1
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]I wouldn't play those low budget boring pc games if somebody paid me.Miketheman83

U won't play TW2 if i gave you something like 10$? Clearly dumbasses do exist on GS forums.

Thats the only one I would play....and its coming to the 360. Coincidence?

LoL, dirty xbot trash has spoken.

GTFO fckin peasant.

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#217 Miketheman83
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="silversix_"]U won't play TW2 if i gave you something like 10$? Clearly dumbasses do exist on GS forums.

Kankaseni1

Thats the only one I would play....and its coming to the 360. Coincidence?

LoL, dirty xbot trash has spoken.

And you guys wonder why people think pc gamers are snobby nerds.
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#218 Kankaseni1
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Thats the only one I would play....and its coming to the 360. Coincidence?Miketheman83

LoL, dirty xbot trash has spoken.

And you guys wonder why people think pc gamers are snobby nerds.

Maybe because I play on a system wich's costs and power eclipses your in China produced plastic box wich you can get @ your local wallmart for a dime lol. And people wonder why we act so snobbish, maybe because you deserve it with your ignorance?

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#219 polFdrawykS
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nothign on the pc interest me 1 bit .. if this is the best they give then im disappointed looks meh at best as always hermit overhyped the games
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#220 Kankaseni1
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nothign on the pc interest me 1 bit .. if this is the best they give then im disappointed looks meh at best as always hermit overhyped the games polFdrawykS

You won't be missed, cya!

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#221 Miketheman83
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Kankaseni1"]

LoL, dirty xbot trash has spoken.

Kankaseni1

And you guys wonder why people think pc gamers are snobby nerds.

Maybe because I play on a system wich's costs and power eclipses your in China produced plastic box wich you can get @ your local wallmart for a dime lol. And people wonder why we act so snobbish, maybe because you deserve it with your ignorance?

Your problem is that you assume console gamers can't afford gaming rigs, when in actuality console gamers just don't care about low budget pc games and ancient controls.
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#222 NoodleFighter
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Sometimes I question the intelligence of consolites when they try to take on PC

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#223 Miketheman83
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Sometimes I question the intelligence of consolites when they try to take on PC

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Get over yourself dude.
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#224 Kankaseni1
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] And you guys wonder why people think pc gamers are snobby nerds.Miketheman83

Maybe because I play on a system wich's costs and power eclipses your in China produced plastic box wich you can get @ your local wallmart for a dime lol. And people wonder why we act so snobbish, maybe because you deserve it with your ignorance?

Your problem is that you assume console gamers can't afford gaming rigs, when in actuality console gamers just don't care about low budget pc games and ancient controls.

You are sinking deeper and deeper into ground. Ancient controls? Because you consolites are unable to handle anymore buttons than a gamepad offers games get dumbed down. Crysis got dumbed down, Skyrim ( horrible interface so consolites can manouvre trough it ) and many other games got dumbed down. You know you are ruining gaming by being a puppet of the corporate scum and submitting to them? You know you are holding gaming back because you are to unintelligent/poor to make a jump into PC gaming?

Low budget games? U mean good games with we arent being advertised to death on tv commercials and are actually innovating?

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#225 Miketheman83
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Kankaseni1"]

Maybe because I play on a system wich's costs and power eclipses your in China produced plastic box wich you can get @ your local wallmart for a dime lol. And people wonder why we act so snobbish, maybe because you deserve it with your ignorance?

Kankaseni1

Your problem is that you assume console gamers can't afford gaming rigs, when in actuality console gamers just don't care about low budget pc games and ancient controls.

You are sinking deeper and deeper into ground. Ancient controls? Because you consolites are unable to handle anymore buttons than a gamepad offers games get dumbed down. Crysis got dumbed down, Skyrim ( horrible interface so consolites can manouvre trough it ) and many other games got dumbed down. You know you are ruining gaming by being a puppet of the corporate scum and submitting to them? You know you are holding gaming back because you are to unintelligent/poor to make a jump into PC gaming?

Low budget games? U mean good games with we arent being advertised to death on tv commercials and are actually innovating?

Keyboard and mouse is not even designed for gaming. Its designed for typing and computing. Controllers are designed specifically for gaming.
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#226 NoodleFighter
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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Sometimes I question the intelligence of consolites when they try to take on PC

Miketheman83

Get over yourself dude.

Oh look another one :)

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[QUOTE="Kankaseni1"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Your problem is that you assume console gamers can't afford gaming rigs, when in actuality console gamers just don't care about low budget pc games and ancient controls.Miketheman83

You are sinking deeper and deeper into ground. Ancient controls? Because you consolites are unable to handle anymore buttons than a gamepad offers games get dumbed down. Crysis got dumbed down, Skyrim ( horrible interface so consolites can manouvre trough it ) and many other games got dumbed down. You know you are ruining gaming by being a puppet of the corporate scum and submitting to them? You know you are holding gaming back because you are to unintelligent/poor to make a jump into PC gaming?

Low budget games? U mean good games with we arent being advertised to death on tv commercials and are actually innovating?

Keyboard and mouse is not even designed for gaming. Its designed for typing and computing. Controllers are designed specifically for gaming.

That must really hurt then. Not only is keyboard and mouse not designed for gaming, but it's a much better device to actually GAME on than controllers for most games, especially FPS and RPG games.
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#228 Planeforger
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Keyboard and mouse is not even designed for gaming. Its designed for typing and computing. Controllers are designed specifically for gaming.Miketheman83

Some genres are designed to be played with the keyboard and mouse (such as strategy games, MMOs, etc). Some genres are simply better with the keyboard and mouse (such as shooters), given the boost in precision and extra hotkeys.

Some other genres tend to be designed to be played with controllers, such as action adventure games. Fortunately, PC gamers can just plug controllers in for those games...so the controller argument makes no sense.

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#229 GeneralShowzer
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Sometimes I question the intelligence of consolites when they try to take on PC

NoodleFighter
I tell myself they are trolls, so that I don't feel sad.
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[QUOTE="Kankaseni1"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Your problem is that you assume console gamers can't afford gaming rigs, when in actuality console gamers just don't care about low budget pc games and ancient controls.Miketheman83

You are sinking deeper and deeper into ground. Ancient controls? Because you consolites are unable to handle anymore buttons than a gamepad offers games get dumbed down. Crysis got dumbed down, Skyrim ( horrible interface so consolites can manouvre trough it ) and many other games got dumbed down. You know you are ruining gaming by being a puppet of the corporate scum and submitting to them? You know you are holding gaming back because you are to unintelligent/poor to make a jump into PC gaming?

Low budget games? U mean good games with we arent being advertised to death on tv commercials and are actually innovating?

Keyboard and mouse is not even designed for gaming. Its designed for typing and computing. Controllers are designed specifically for gaming.

and yet, as a user of both, I find the keyboard and mouse combo the best way to control most genre of games, with the exception of platformers and fighters (two genres which at this points are on life support on consoles by the way)

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#231 AdrianWerner
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Keyboard and mouse is not even designed for gamingMiketheman83
Sure, but most genres were designed for keyboard and mouse.

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#232 milannoir
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]I wouldn't play those low budget boring pc games if somebody paid me.Miketheman83

U won't play TW2 if i gave you something like 10$? Clearly dumbasses do exist on GS forums.

Thats the only one I would play....and its coming to the 360. Coincidence?

ROFL "PC games suck except when they come to consoles (in inferior sucky versions), then they rock". My God do you realize how that sort of statement will inevitably make you look like an ignorant and immature fool?

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#233 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

Off the top of my head;

Total War 2 - One of the highest rated games on GS this year.

Witcher 2

DOTA 2

Frozen Synapse

MOM 6

Star Wars TOR

Trackmania 2

Minecraft

Terraria

Red Orchestra 2

+ Many many more

+ Best version of every multiplatform game out.

Protip - Steam sale is on, top 20 games sold at the moment are almost all games in the sale. Will change with each days daily deals.

GrannyGoat

a bunch of cheap strategy and puzzle games..lol..and The Witcher 2 is an exclusive..temporarily. Won't be for much longer.

Why so ignorant?
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#234 iamrob7
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[QUOTE="Kankaseni1"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Your problem is that you assume console gamers can't afford gaming rigs, when in actuality console gamers just don't care about low budget pc games and ancient controls.Miketheman83

You are sinking deeper and deeper into ground. Ancient controls? Because you consolites are unable to handle anymore buttons than a gamepad offers games get dumbed down. Crysis got dumbed down, Skyrim ( horrible interface so consolites can manouvre trough it ) and many other games got dumbed down. You know you are ruining gaming by being a puppet of the corporate scum and submitting to them? You know you are holding gaming back because you are to unintelligent/poor to make a jump into PC gaming?

Low budget games? U mean good games with we arent being advertised to death on tv commercials and are actually innovating?

Keyboard and mouse is not even designed for gaming. Its designed for typing and computing. Controllers are designed specifically for gaming.

Irrelevant when I can aim far more accurately and far quicker using a mouse in any shooting game. That's why console games come with aim assist/autoaim and huge hit boxes. When you play with a mouse you actually aim for yourself, it's a vastly superior control mechanism for any shooter. Depends what type of games you play I suppose, I prefer a gamepad for football games and some other sports games. Anything else a mouse/keyboard is far superior. Fortunately on the PC I get to use whatever I like.

Who cares what something is designed for, when it is easily the superior system mechanically.

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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"] Ive been suspended for less .... multiple times. if this doesnt get a lock and a ban then I give up ...

He's not breaking any rules with the new TOU.

"You PC nerds" ... system wars not fanboy wars? hes generilizing and insulting? thats not covered by the new TOU? .... oh for gods sake .... stupidest forum moderation system ever, ive been suspended loads for very minor offences... yet people get away with alot worse.

That^ Even when you report people....
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#236 iamrob7
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] He's not breaking any rules with the new TOU. Jebus213
"You PC nerds" ... system wars not fanboy wars? hes generilizing and insulting? thats not covered by the new TOU? .... oh for gods sake .... stupidest forum moderation system ever, ive been suspended loads for very minor offences... yet people get away with alot worse.

That^ Even when you report people....

This is very true, the rules are undoubtedly lopsidedly enforced.

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#237 commonfate
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Kankaseni1"]

Maybe because I play on a system wich's costs and power eclipses your in China produced plastic box wich you can get @ your local wallmart for a dime lol. And people wonder why we act so snobbish, maybe because you deserve it with your ignorance?

Kankaseni1

Your problem is that you assume console gamers can't afford gaming rigs, when in actuality console gamers just don't care about low budget pc games and ancient controls.

You are sinking deeper and deeper into ground. Ancient controls? Because you consolites are unable to handle anymore buttons than a gamepad offers games get dumbed down. Crysis got dumbed down, Skyrim ( horrible interface so consolites can manouvre trough it ) and many other games got dumbed down. You know you are ruining gaming by being a puppet of the corporate scum and submitting to them? You know you are holding gaming back because you are to unintelligent/poor to make a jump into PC gaming?

Low budget games? U mean good games with we arent being advertised to death on tv commercials and are actually innovating?

Ruining gaming? /facepalm

Ignoring what consoles have done for PC's is just plain stupid

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Something to note about "big-budget" game developers. They didn't just "BAM!" magically came out of nowhere and became big. They all had humble beginnings developing low-budget titles who made it big along the way. The same goes for the developers of "low-budget" titles for the PC today. It's an ongoing cycle that never ends.

Take a close look at the history of say, Naughty Dog and Epic Games. You'll see they started out developing shareware titles on the PC.

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#239 pelvist
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

  1. Amnesia
  2. Hard Reset
  3. Avadon
  4. E.Y.E
  5. Sanctum

ohthemanatee

if only they were released physically :(

Burn them onto a disc and print out some boxart for the cover. There you go! Physical copy.

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#240 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

  1. Amnesia
  2. Hard Reset
  3. Avadon
  4. E.Y.E
  5. Sanctum

ohthemanatee

if only they were released physically :(

Two of them have in Poland :)

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#241 jun_aka_pekto
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Ignoring what consoles have done for PC's is just plain stupid

commonfate

I'm not ignoring it. But, can you make a bullet list of exactly what consoles have done for the PC?

I can think of one:

- not counting the arcades, joysticks and gamepads moved from console to computers.

Edit:

Going the other way.....

- FPS games, wildly popular on the PC spread to cosnsoles

- nVidia and ATI, PC graphics cards makers, started making graphics chips for consoles

- IBM, associated with the PC, developed CPU for Wii and XBox 360.

- PS3 OS based off Linux

- Direct 3D API used for XBox 360 development

- OpenGL wrappers used for PS3.

Where would consoles be today without PC technology?

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#242 commonfate
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[QUOTE="commonfate"]

Ignoring what consoles have done for PC's is just plain stupid

jun_aka_pekto

I'm not ignoring it. But, can you make a bullet list of exactly what consoles have done for the PC?

I can think of one:

- not counting the arcades, joysticks and gamepads moved from console to computers.

Perhaps the most apparent one would be that consoles sapped a huge portion of the FPS market from PC. That sounds like a terrible thing but PC gaming was not so varied as it used to be. Sure there were some other games from other genres on the market but nowhere near the quantity that they are now.

Last gen PC would have never gotten big budget titles like Assassin's Creed, Dead Space, etc. Due to the multiplatform nature of this generation, PC gamers can play such titles.

Slower hardware growth... now here is the tricky one and many people will probably disagree with me but w/e. The whole mentality of upgrading every half a year has always been exaggerated but had some truth in previous gens. Some people would rather have greater hardware but PC devs don't want to leave behind consoles. so financially it's not viable in today's market, outside of being an indie dev (in which their would be no need for high-end hardware as it is). This does mean slower hardware growth but PC gaming is much more affordable now and hardware only gets cheaper over time. This gen, a single high-end card from 2006 could have gotten you through the whole gen, playing multiplat games whereas in previous gens, that would have never held up for so long without upgrading.

Uniformity of hardware and drivers is a great thing. It's much, much easier to get the matching parts that you want (if you're into building PCs) and easier to get the right drivers to work correctly for the right games. In PC vs console debates, consolites love to bring up the woes of getting a frustrating PC game to work. And that point against PC gaming would have had much more relevance in previous years.

I know you asked for bullet points but I can't really but these points into 1 sentence constructs, sorry :P

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#243 lazerface216
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Kankaseni1"]

Maybe because I play on a system wich's costs and power eclipses your in China produced plastic box wich you can get @ your local wallmart for a dime lol. And people wonder why we act so snobbish, maybe because you deserve it with your ignorance?

Kankaseni1

Your problem is that you assume console gamers can't afford gaming rigs, when in actuality console gamers just don't care about low budget pc games and ancient controls.

You are sinking deeper and deeper into ground. Ancient controls? Because you consolites are unable to handle anymore buttons than a gamepad offers games get dumbed down. Crysis got dumbed down, Skyrim ( horrible interface so consolites can manouvre trough it ) and many other games got dumbed down. You know you are ruining gaming by being a puppet of the corporate scum and submitting to them? You know you are holding gaming back because you are to unintelligent/poor to make a jump into PC gaming?

Low budget games? U mean good games with we arent being advertised to death on tv commercials and are actually innovating?

BWAHAHAHAHA!!! this guy is delusional!

if games like uncharted, rayman origins, forza, bayonetta, red dead redemption and gears of war are "ruining gaming" then BURN BABY BURN!!!

stick to your day job pal, forum dwelling.

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#244 jun_aka_pekto
Member since 2010 • 25255 Posts

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

Ignoring what consoles have done for PC's is just plain stupid

commonfate

I'm not ignoring it. But, can you make a bullet list of exactly what consoles have done for the PC?

I can think of one:

- not counting the arcades, joysticks and gamepads moved from console to computers.

Perhaps the most apparent one would be that consoles sapped a huge portion of the FPS market from PC. That sounds like a terrible thing but PC gaming was not so varied as it used to be. Sure there were some other games from other genres on the market but nowhere near the quantity that they are now.

Last gen PC would have never gotten big budget titles like Assassin's Creed, Dead Space, etc. Due to the multiplatform nature of this generation, PC gamers can play such titles.

Slower hardware growth... now here is the tricky one and many people will probably disagree with me but w/e. The whole mentality of upgrading every half a year has always been exaggerated but had some truth in previous gens. Some people would rather have greater hardware but PC devs don't want to leave behind consoles. so financially it's not viable in today's market, outside of being an indie dev (in which their would be no need for high-end hardware as it is). This does mean slower hardware growth but PC gaming is much more affordable now and hardware only gets cheaper over time. This gen, a single high-end card from 2006 could have gotten you through the whole gen, playing multiplat games whereas in previous gens, that would have never held up for so long without upgrading.

Uniformity of hardware and drivers is a great thing. It's much, much easier to get the matching parts that you want (if you're into building PCs) and easier to get the right drivers to work correctly for the right games. In PC vs console debates, consolites love to bring up the woes of getting a frustrating PC game to work. And that point against PC gaming would have had much more relevance in previous years.

I know you asked for bullet points but I can't really but these points into 1 sentence constructs, sorry :P

Dead Space I can agree with. The team that made Dead Space had a history of previously making console games only. It's arguable whether AC wouldn't have been made for the PC without consoles in mind. After all, Ubisoft (publisher of AC) has been a longtime computer game developer. I first heard of them when they used to make games for the Commodore Amiga in the late 80's. I definitely heard of them when they came out with the (superlative) IL2 Shturmovik and LOMAC flight sims for the PC. It's only with their recent stance on piracy that their PC game development came into question.

Other examples of big budget console titles that made it from consoles to PC in the past are the Tomb Raider and Resident Evil games.

As for my stance on big budget titles.... I already mentioned it earlier. There's definitely some stuff that make its way from consoles to the PC. But, be it game genres or technology, the cross-pollination is way stronger going from PC to console. Well, the PC is getting Kinect. I'm not sure if that's good for some people here. On the other hand, some of the less popular stuff from the PC side are making its way into consoles as well such as bugs, patches, and updates. He He.

Edit: Never mind about the bullet list. I was merely trying out what my (former) bosses used to tell me.:lol: I just wanted to see what kind of result it would get.

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#245 lundy86_4
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And you guys wonder why people think pc gamers are snobby nerds.Miketheman83

Not at all.

The fact that you would take that attitude as the general way PC gamers act is a little worrisome though.

I wouldn't play those low budget boring pc games if somebody paid me.Miketheman83

  1. The Witcher 2
  2. Shogun II
  3. Anno 2070
  4. The Old Republic
  5. Dawn of War II
  6. Football Manager 2012
  7. Trackmania 2
  8. Red Orchestra 2
  9. Rift
  10. Cities in Motion

These are "low budget boring PC games"?

Wow, lucky I don't go by your standards. Especially since one of them has the highest budget of any game created... Ever.

nothign on the pc interest me 1 bit .. if this is the best they give then im disappointed looks meh at best as always hermit overhyped the games polFdrawykS

Hermits overhyped the games, for the sole reason that you don't like them?

Good to know that yours is the barometer by which we must measure the quality of games.

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#246 Kankaseni1
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What s the problem of consolites with PC gaming? Growth in the PC sector is beneficial for all parties. COnsole gaming however does add nothing to the industry except huge sales for the corporate scumm. PC gaming doesn t alter your gaming experience or quality. Console gaming however affects multiplat developement in a bad way. Game design idea's get butchered because the systems are restricted in so many ways.

And then we even aren't talking about PC franchises wich got butchered thanks to console developement. Battlefield 3 being one of the recent ones.

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#247 EvanTheGamer
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It got a WoW expansion or something. Nothing significant at all.
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#248 lundy86_4
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It got a WoW expansion or something. Nothing significant at all.EvanTheGamer

It got 35 exclusives reviewed by GS. More if you go off of other sites.

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#249 PC360Wii
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[QUOTE="Kankaseni1"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Your problem is that you assume console gamers can't afford gaming rigs, when in actuality console gamers just don't care about low budget pc games and ancient controls.Miketheman83

You are sinking deeper and deeper into ground. Ancient controls? Because you consolites are unable to handle anymore buttons than a gamepad offers games get dumbed down. Crysis got dumbed down, Skyrim ( horrible interface so consolites can manouvre trough it ) and many other games got dumbed down. You know you are ruining gaming by being a puppet of the corporate scum and submitting to them? You know you are holding gaming back because you are to unintelligent/poor to make a jump into PC gaming?

Low budget games? U mean good games with we arent being advertised to death on tv commercials and are actually innovating?

Keyboard and mouse is not even designed for gaming. Its designed for typing and computing. Controllers are designed specifically for gaming.

No, it was designed to be the best possible human-to-computer interface for accuracy and speed, and to this day it still is. guess what video games are my freind? COMPUTER PROGRAMs. simple enough yes? seems to go over some of you people's heads though. The toy plastic controller with colourful letters is designed, as it was many years ago, for children ... and for simple games. oh sure its got more complex.... but still holds alot of genres back.
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#250 telefanatic
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This is one of the dumbest threads i have ever seen on this forum, and TC keeps on going and going after being owned so hard every time. Red Orchestra 2 is so awesome i would actually choose that over any Halo game any day.