What 360 exclusive is going to take the graphic king crown?

[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

[QUOTE="KingTuttle"]

Who cares when Modern Combat 2 comes out....my life = gone.

KingTuttle

I can't say I've ever been impressed by the graphics in a Call of Duty game (I can't speak for the PC versions). Exclusives on both systems generally seem to outclass multiplatform games.

[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

Why does it have to be exclusive?

If a 360/PC game does have better graphics than a PS3 game that should be listed as 'Console' graphics king. Because if you are just looking at exclusives then the PC should count.

Chaos_HL21

Well you also have to remember that the screenshots could be 'touched' up using photoshop, so why even look at games graphicly.

If there is a PC/360 game that looked better than Killzone 2 on the 360 that should count as graphics king.

[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

[QUOTE="KingTuttle"]

Who cares when Modern Combat 2 comes out....my life = gone.

KingTuttle

I can't say I've ever been impressed by the graphics in a Call of Duty game (I can't speak for the PC versions). Exclusives on both systems generally seem to outclass multiplatform games.

I think the real reason why 360 graphics have excelled past some PS3 games is because about 99% of exclusive games on the platform use multiplat engines, whereas alot of PS3 exclusives use custom engines. With that said, i think future exclusives (360/PC games included) are being built with only 360/PC in mind, and can cater to the 360's strengths, and minimize the effects of the weaknesses (as K2 engine did on PS3). So games like Alan Wake, Dead Island, and Two Worlds: Temptation will start to show its capabilities because they are using custom built engines. IMO, the first game that i think will showcase the technical prowess will be Perfect Dark Zero 2 (or whatever they call it :P) because Rare knows the system in and out. PDZ and Kameo were built on the Xbox, then later re-done for the 360, but future rare games will be only 360, so i look to see what they can do. Banjo Kazooie N&B was a great predictor, the lighting and textures in that game were amazing, yet it gets overlooked for its graphics because its "colorful" or "kiddy". Same with R&Cnavyguy21

everbody knows ninja gaiden is the king

[QUOTE="RushKing"][QUOTE="Keltoid"] Until Uncharted, which could be debated as a tie.thetruespin

[QUOTE="KingTuttle"][QUOTE="Menalque2"]

I can't say I've ever been impressed by the graphics in a Call of Duty game (I can't speak for the PC versions). Exclusives on both systems generally seem to outclass multiplatform games.

furomaster_99

If KZ2 is such a great game (and crown wearing king) why did it only sell < 60k copies in NA in April? Why a slip from #7 to out of the top 20?

[QUOTE="KingTuttle"][QUOTE="Menalque2"]

I can't say I've ever been impressed by the graphics in a Call of Duty game (I can't speak for the PC versions). Exclusives on both systems generally seem to outclass multiplatform games.

thetruespin

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="KingTuttle"] My point is that who cares who wears the crown (which btw is completely subjective to the viewer) when a game is just better and holds longer lasting overall value in the long run. Which was why I said what I did. KingTuttle

If KZ2 is such a great game (and crown wearing king) why did it only sell < 60k copies in NA in April? Why a slip from #7 to out of the top 20?

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="KingTuttle"] My point is that who cares who wears the crown (which btw is completely subjective to the viewer) when a game is just better and holds longer lasting overall value in the long run. Which was why I said what I did. KingTuttle

If KZ2 is such a great game (and crown wearing king) why did it only sell < 60k copies in NA in April? Why a slip from #7 to out of the top 20?

I don't think great games necessarily connote great sales. Look at games like Valkyria Chronicles.

However, I can somewhat agree with your previous post.

Honestly right now there is no 360 exclusive on the horizon which can even match Killzone 2.

[QUOTE="KingTuttle"]

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]reach, lemmings...reach! Grab for some more straws

-Traveller-

If KZ2 is such a great game (and crown wearing king) why did it only sell < 60k copies in NA in April? Why a slip from #7 to out of the top 20?

I don't think great games necessarily connote great sales. Look at games like Valkyria Chronicles.

However, I can somewhat agree with your previous post.

The 360 maxed out with gears of war 2.RushKing

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

Well you also have to remember that the screenshots could be 'touched' up using photoshop, so why even look at games graphicly.

If there is a PC/360 game that looked better than Killzone 2 on the 360 that should count as graphics king.

gaboi09

Did I say that they do, Lets say that Alan Wake looked better on the PC. However for the 360 version the game looked better than Killzone. But they are not the same graphics. Let me restate that they are not the same. The PC is better with graphics. Then why can't that be the the console graphics king?

PS: Just to be clear the 360 is not the same power as a PC (In case there is more confussion)

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="KingTuttle"]

If KZ2 is such a great game (and crown wearing king) why did it only sell < 60k copies in NA in April? Why a slip from #7 to out of the top 20?

KingTuttle

I don't think great games necessarily connote great sales. Look at games like Valkyria Chronicles.

However, I can somewhat agree with your previous post.

Agreed. I really enjoyed Killzone 2, and still enjoy it's multiplayer. The truth is, it just didn't stand out from the crowd, gameplay-wise.

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="KingTuttle"] My point is that who cares who wears the crown (which btw is completely subjective to the viewer) when a game is just better and holds longer lasting overall value in the long run. Which was why I said what I did. KingTuttle

If KZ2 is such a great game (and crown wearing king) why did it only sell < 60k copies in NA in April? Why a slip from #7 to out of the top 20?

Honestly right now there is no 360 exclusive on the horizon which can even match Killzone 2.

EVOLV3

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="KingTuttle"]

If KZ2 is such a great game (and crown wearing king) why did it only sell < 60k copies in NA in April? Why a slip from #7 to out of the top 20?

KingTuttle

I don't think great games necessarily connote great sales. Look at games like Valkyria Chronicles.

However, I can somewhat agree with your previous post.

it was a good game... have you played it?

and while selling over 1.5 million since it's launch (3 month time period) could be viewed as underwhelming for such a big title, the game was still sucessful and it will definately have legs

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only poster on SW that isn't obsessed with graphicsbeast667

The 360 maxed out with gears of war 2.RushKing

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

Honestly right now there is no 360 exclusive on the horizon which can even match Killzone 2.

ToScA-

I mean, when KZ2 took the console graphic king crown, all the 360 fanboys said that it would only be a matter of time until the 360 took it back. However, with Uncharted 2 looking to take the crown, what 360 EXCLUSIVE might have a chance at some of this graphical lovelyness?

Now, two rules, it must be an EXCLUSIVE, so please no posting PC shots of alan wake and then shouting "teh jacket!!!!"

and hermits, please don't post Crysis shows... we KNOW it looks better than anything our pathetic consoles can do.

Why is everyone forgetting Rare, I know they can push the 360 to the limits when their next game is shown at E3(hopefully). They did it with Conker on N64 and Xbox. Or Bungie's new game that probably isn't Halo at least.

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Err soo, Epic know how to use UE3. KZ2 uses weakass textures, and then uses dark colours and subdued lighting to make up for deficiencies. Try playing an ugly game and then put up the contrast way high, itll look MUCH better. Here, they did this only in the right amounts to give a stunning resultGeneralmojo

Also, the textures on KZ2 are as good as if not better than in Gears, its just that gears is third person and KZ2 --- basically, you can get a lot closer to the textures in KZ2

[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

Honestly right now there is no 360 exclusive on the horizon which can even match Killzone 2.

Next-Gen-Tec

IMO this is easly on pair with Killzone2 graphics. Theres also some multiplats that come close if not as good (Assassins Creed, Farcry2, ResidentEvil5...)

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Err soo, Epic know how to use UE3. KZ2 uses weakass textures, and then uses dark colours and subdued lighting to make up for deficiencies. Try playing an ugly game and then put up the contrast way high, itll look MUCH better. Here, they did this only in the right amounts to give a stunning resultGeneralmojo

Also, the textures on KZ2 are as good as if not better than in Gears, its just that gears is third person and KZ2 --- basically, you can get a lot closer to the textures in KZ2

[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"] Lens of Truth: Gears of War 2 vs Killzone 2 Engine Comparison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU This well known video proves you wrong on every count.

Also, the textures on KZ2 are as good as if not better than in Gears, its just that gears is third person and KZ2 --- basically, you can get a lot closer to the textures in KZ2

AAllxxjjnn

Why is everyone forgetting Rare, I know they can push the 360 to the limits when their next game is shown at E3(hopefully). They did it with Conker on N64 and Xbox. Or Bungie's new game that probably isn't Halo at least.

mitu123

MS has you lemmings believing "the sum is greater than the parts". There is nothing special about your beloved 360....It will continue to fall behind until the next gen. When lemmings talk sales, I say Wii. When lemmings talk power, I say PS3. When lemmings talk quality, I say R_R_O_D! Hoo hoo, hee hee, ha ha.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Why is everyone forgetting Rare, I know they can push the 360 to the limits when their next game is shown at E3(hopefully). They did it with Conker on N64 and Xbox. Or Bungie's new game that probably isn't Halo at least.

beast667

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Why is everyone forgetting Rare, I know they can push the 360 to the limits when their next game is shown at E3(hopefully). They did it with Conker on N64 and Xbox. Or Bungie's new game that probably isn't Halo at least.

beast667

[QUOTE="RushKing"]The 360 maxed out with gears of war 2.emorainbo

Does it? Can you show me some gameplay of AW running on 360?

[QUOTE="gaboi09"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

Well you also have to remember that the screenshots could be 'touched' up using photoshop, so why even look at games graphicly.

If there is a PC/360 game that looked better than Killzone 2 on the 360 that should count as graphics king.

Chaos_HL21

Did I say that they do, Lets say that Alan Wake looked better on the PC. However for the 360 version the game looked better than Killzone. But they are not the same graphics. Let me restate that they are not the same. The PC is better with graphics. Then why can't that be the the console graphics king?

PS: Just to be clear the 360 is not the same power as a PC (In case there is more confussion)

[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Gears 2 was king for a while It not only looked better than Uncharted, but it also had WAY more on screen. Multiple enemy and friendly AI and MUCH larger environments. KZ2 is incredible looking, but on a technical level, its not that strongFirstDiscovery

Why is everyone forgetting Rare, I know they can push the 360 to the limits when their next game is shown at E3(hopefully). They did it with Conker on N64 and Xbox. Or Bungie's new game that probably isn't Halo at least.

mitu123

[QUOTE="beast667"]All Rares recent games are a little underappreciated graphically. B-K: N&B is probably my favorite game visually this gen, and Viva Pinata looks damn good too.ToScA-

doh, how'd I forget Kameo?

Those games you mentioned have colors, and System Wars doesn't care about colorful games, those games never get talked about that much here anyways. It's a shame, I like colorful games as well.mitu123

Well, a few games have some pretty lush environments, but anything that has a different artstyle gets overlooked hear.

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

Why is everyone forgetting Rare, I know they can push the 360 to the limits when their next game is shown at E3(hopefully). They did it with Conker on N64 and Xbox. Or Bungie's new game that probably isn't Halo at least.

mitu123

I personally think that Gears of Wars 2 is the best that the 360 can do, unless FFXIII wants to prove me wrong. That said I think that Uncharted 2 is the best that the ps3 can so far looking at trailers. ocelot562

Both consoles will allways get better graphics until the end of this gen but the improvements will be smaller with time. I think epic said something about how they will improve unreal engine 3.5 even more on 360. For sure 360 its not maxed up yet

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="thetruespin"] Technically KZ2 is far more impressive than Gears 1/2. Gears just uses the unreal engine. KZ2 runs on its own engine, built from the ground up. So I don't see how gears can be considered technically more impressive when it simply uses a third party engine? Also, Gears hardly packs the screen with enemies...GreyFoXX4

The 360 maxed out with gears of war 2.RushKing