What about Call of Duty do you hate the most?

So, SW, What is it about CoD that you hate the most? Do you hate the entire franchise? The MP formula? Or do you have no gripes at all? (I call BS)

IMO the worst thing about cod is the absolute lack of any learning curve, teamwork, or balance whatsoever. MW2 is to date the most unbalanced clusterf*** ive ever played, even though it was fun until the massive amount of exploits were found.

I also dislike Cod because it is spawning games that play like it, I much rather prefer the Arena-type style of Quake, Halo, UT, TF2, and Gears where everyone spawns with the same weapons and power weapons/map control are the keys to victory, not just running around randomly shooting until score limit/time limit is reached.

What do you think?

EDIT: I would just like to make it clear that I do not hate the CoD franchise, I just think that it has been going stale. I have played every CoD game except 3, and the various spinn-offs

This thread is right up SW's alley,that's for damn sure.

the fact I can play CoD4, a game from years ago, and get the same experience

The sails. It doesn't deserve those sail. At all

Since I chose other, I thought I'd explain quickly. It's just the hackers and lack of dedicated servers that bothered me about MW2 (which have since been fixed for the PC version, thanks to one awesome mod). Otherwise, it's damn near the perfect shooter.

There are some unbalanced perks and loadouts, but they're slightly balanced by the game in the sense that you can kill someone quickly with just about ANYTHING, that the disparity between weapons/perks/loadouts is not THAT bad.

This thread is right up SW's alley,that's for damn sure.

Lto_thaG

i don't think i hate anything about it really. i always play the campaigns and finish them.

i don't play it online because it always seemed to me you just run around in circles and i like a more "stalky" type of game where you get to be sneaky but that's no biggie since there are games out there that cater to that and i just play those.

The community. Easily the worst I have ever seen on any game. Some people on there make me ashamed to be a human being

the fact I can play CoD4, a game from years ago, and get the same experience

wis3boi

The community. Easily the worst I have ever seen on any game. Some people on there make me ashamed to be a human being

BPoole96

Only thing i hate about cod is treyarch... incompetent dev. Regarding your poll. 1) You see campers in EVERY game.... hell i could 'camp' in street fighter in the corner if i wanted LOL.. 2)Games have no barriers...children will play what they want to play and children DO play battlefield , cs , halo , uncharted etc... 3) No counter for this..all i will say is that those perks and equipment are fun for me. 4) Ye you go play cod 1 against a veteran and we'll see if it takes skill or notcampzor

EDIT: Also regarding your campers response, CoD seems to be DESIGNED for camping. (Small rooms with 1 door, Claymores, alleyways, nooks in walls, etc)

The throwaway singleplayers with terrible stories.

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The community. Easily the worst I have ever seen on any game. Some people on there make me ashamed to be a human being

Plagueless

I was annoyed by the d**** at first but after seeing some of the other 'creative' emblems the d**** didn't seem that bad anymore

I don't hate it. People only hate it cause its the "cool thing" to do. Lolsilentnightmere

Maybe some people hate it because its the same rehashed game Call of Duty 4 and the only changes that have been made have been for the worst

I don't enjoy the gameplay. If I did, those things in the poll wouldn't make me hate the series.

I don't hate it. People only hate it cause its the "cool thing" to do. Lolsilentnightmere

the unbalance dear god the balane issues make me want to kill babies :(

The campers are easily delt with, flash em sneak in and knife them.

Kiddies get muted and told to get a grip and go play ratchet and clank or something more age appropriate if they are really wide little idiots.

the fact I can play CoD4, a game from years ago, and get the same experience

wis3boi

So you dont like half life 2 episodes, Counter strike source, Left for dead 2, Assassins creed. crysis warhead, any games that originated from mods, the two STALKER sequels, Gears 3, Forza 3, battlefield 3(which was a downgrade from BC2 IMO), any rockstar game as they all have the same gameplay, fifa, fallout new vegas, dead rising 2, all these series' have previous games with very similar experiences.

lets be honest, there pretty similar but its a formula that WORKS. I don't like battlefield 3 (judging from the beta, and not the glitches, just the menus, the way the new classes are layed out, spotting seems useless now, the snipers, less emphasis on destruction, the story will be more serious that bad company 2 and will follow the linear path that BC2 took from COD) and loved bad company 2 (well, have 120 hours on it), it has a new campaign, and if people really don't care about graphics that much theres no reason to upgrade them. Althout they still milk it for all its worth.

Got to say pretty much everything, but the saddest thing are the youtube vids.

Game Informer said it best in the new issue. It feels like a bunch of map packs every time a new game is released, only this time the game (MW3) feels like a step backwards.

I don't hate it. It just doesn't suit my play sty|e.

Modern Warfare goes beyond twitch and ventures into the realm of spazzy. Perfect for the attention deficit gamer I suppose. But hey, that's just my view on it.

I like Battlefield's more deliberate pacing.

The only thing I hate about Call of Duty is how much people go out of their way to hate Call of Duty.

Babies. All of them.

The fact that it's actually a good game. I'm so resentful.

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the fact I can play CoD4, a game from years ago, and get the same experience

firefluff3

So you dont like half life 2 episodes, Counter strike source, Left for dead 2, Assassins creed. crysis warhead, any games that originated from mods, the two STALKER sequels, Gears 3, Forza 3, battlefield 3(which was a downgrade from BC2 IMO), any rockstar game as they all have the same gameplay, fifa, fallout new vegas, dead rising 2, all these series' have previous games with very similar experiences.

lets be honest, there pretty similar but its a formula that WORKS. I don't like battlefield 3 (judging from the beta, and not the glitches, just the menus, the way the new classes are layed out, spotting seems useless now, the snipers, less emphasis on destruction, the story will be more serious that bad company 2 and will follow the linear path that BC2 took from COD) and loved bad company 2 (well, have 120 hours on it), it has a new campaign, and if people really don't care about graphics that much theres no reason to upgrade them. Althout they still milk it for all its worth.

Noob tubes in MW2, and thats it.

Other then unbalanced perks, everything else isn't too big an issue with, say, the mute button and difficulty settings and all, and even then Black Ops was like the least unbalanced CoD ever.

My number 1 issue is the removed focus on campaign. I remember with CoD1 how the emphasis was on the story and campaign and the multiplayer was just this little addition. Then CoD2 and CoD4 became major XBL hits and the focus started going towards online.

Don't get me wrong, I like the online (and I love the co-op they've been doing lately), but the single player needs more work. The story is all over the place with crazy spy stuff and plot holes, and when the story is actually good they end up sacrificing the pacing and set pieces (which Black Ops did for the most part other then a few nice moments).

The absolute worst thing the campaign does though, worse then the story, worse then the short time, is the linearity. God, its so stifling, being forced to follow corridors or one dude, not being able to take alternate routes or have a little freedom. CoD4 was actually pretty good in this regard, almost eveyr mission had at least 2 or 3 different paths to your objective you could take without needing to follow a dude, plus a bevy of different tools for the job. Maybe you take a rifle and pick off enemies from the rooftops of the middle eastern city streets? Or maybe you grab a shotgun and take a flanking route? That's not even mentioning levels like Safehouse that are entirely open for you to explore and complete at your leisure.

We don't see any of that anymore, and there is no reason for that. CoD4 had the best set pieces, one of the best stories, and the best pacing of any CoD game to date without sacrificing freedom, but now we're just being led by the hand and having a giant "FOLLOW" sign over out leader because we can't even have the benefit of taking point, so the replay value gets lost.

I really think the CoD games need to put a focus on single player again. The MP formula is already pretty good other then for some balance issues, but the campaigns need the most change. I want a return to form, and if they can make them longer without having the game drag on (like with Rainbow Six Vegas' 12 hour campaign), then perfect. If not then 7 is fine if I get the luxury of freedom and replay value.

The only thing I hate about Call of Duty is how much people go out of their way to hate Call of Duty.

Babies. All of them.

Darth-Samus

I also hate this, especially coming from obviously biased fanboys and hurt elitists who still can't get over the dedicated servers being removed from MW2.

People who like the series and have legitimate complaints to try and make it better I can stand, but little 12 year olds how scream "CoD sux, BF rules LOL" really just annoy me. I mean, I don't see CoD fanboys clogging BF news to insult it for no reason, and its not like your game of choice is a country or religion you have to impress on others.

I really hate EA for just making it all worse, but considering how sleazy they are with marketing (with the on purpose attempts at controversy for Medal of Honor and Dante's Inferno), its not too surprising they'd get all aggressive and try to promote CoD hate, even while Robert Bowling talks about how much he loves BF and the DICE team and Activision actually acts mature for once with a call for a ceasefire.

The community. Easily the worst I have ever seen on any game. Some people on there make me ashamed to be a human being

BPoole96

The only correct and sound reason to "hate" a video game is the larger effect it has on other developers and publishers in the genre. If you don't like CoD...cool, don't play it. Many people DO enjoy it. However, the only real problem emerges when all the other companies attempt to recreate CoD's success (see Crysis 2, etc) and it begins to adversely effect the quality and availability of alternatives. Certain popular sub-genres in the past such as the arena shooter (Quake, Unreal) have become more or less extinct in the current market with those past publishers focusing more on "current trendy" style games. Again, it's all capitalism and makes sense economically...it just sort of sucks.

The singleplayer sucks. Odd how nothing to do with the SP appeared in the poll, and that's the only bit I care about.

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the fact I can play CoD4, a game from years ago, and get the same experience

wis3boi

So you dont like half life 2 episodes, Counter strike source, Left for dead 2, Assassins creed. crysis warhead, any games that originated from mods, the two STALKER sequels, Gears 3, Forza 3, battlefield 3(which was a downgrade from BC2 IMO), any rockstar game as they all have the same gameplay, fifa, fallout new vegas, dead rising 2, all these series' have previous games with very similar experiences.

lets be honest, there pretty similar but its a formula that WORKS. I don't like battlefield 3 (judging from the beta, and not the glitches, just the menus, the way the new classes are layed out, spotting seems useless now, the snipers, less emphasis on destruction, the story will be more serious that bad company 2 and will follow the linear path that BC2 took from COD) and loved bad company 2 (well, have 120 hours on it), it has a new campaign, and if people really don't care about graphics that much theres no reason to upgrade them. Althout they still milk it for all its worth.

The thing I hate most about it is that its success is discouraging other developers from innovating in favor of just copy and pasting the CoD formula. It's polluting the genre with its mediocrity.