What are Gamespot editors smoking? Metro 2033 not in Technical Graphics Awards..

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#51 washd123
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they gave best technical graphics to MGS4 in 2008, which had some of the worst graphics of its time

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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Then why wasn't a Wii game nominated, because MH3, Metrioid, Goldeneye, look very good for that outdated hardware, don't you think. I'm calling it here, double standards! GeneralShowzer

Because no Wii game was that impressive. In the expanded Reader's Choice category they included a PSP game though. Also note how the PC version of Just Cause 2 was nominated.

Just Cause II preformance was poor, the FPS gets down when you're in cities, it requires a really good rig to look that good, how does it make sense that it was nominated?

It only does that if you have vsync on.

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#53 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Played the first few minutes of Metro 2033 and took some screens. The quality of these images has been impacted due to compression, afterall, each image was over a few MBs and now less than a few hundred KB. Did that to conserve space and not to overload imageshack. lol Anyways, enjoy.

Anyone want MOAR?

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Is your GPU seriously running at 92 degrees? :| That's ridiculous.

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Is your GPU seriously running at 92 degrees? :| That's ridiculous.

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Pretty standard for the GTX 480. I like my space heater though. It eats everything I throw at it.

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[QUOTE="Guppy507"]

Is your GPU seriously running at 92 degrees? :| That's ridiculous.

Stevo_the_gamer

Pretty standard for the GTX 480. I like my space heater though. It eats everything I throw at it.

Mine only goes up to 72 degrees. What brand do you have?

I'm also using EVGA precision though, which adjusts the fan speed to correlate with how hot it's getting. Do you ever change the fan speed?

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[QUOTE="Guppy507"]

Is your GPU seriously running at 92 degrees? :| That's ridiculous.

Stevo_the_gamer

Pretty standard for the GTX 480. I like my space heater though. It eats everything I throw at it.

Still ridiculous. :P My room heats up enough from my computer as it is, and my GPU runs at 65 degrees maximum.
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#57 PatchMaster
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Unfortunately, I think they omitted it because it's a multiplat that only looks great on one platform. If it had only been released for PC I think it may have made it. Then again, the awards tend to cater to console gaming so...

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#58 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Guppy507"]

Is your GPU seriously running at 92 degrees? :| That's ridiculous.

Guppy507

Pretty standard for the GTX 480. I like my space heater though. It eats everything I throw at it.

Still ridiculous. :P My room heats up enough from my computer as it is, and my GPU runs at 65 degrees maximum.

You guys using liquid cooling or something crazy? My card averages the mid 70's in demanding games.

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#59 jalexbrown
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they gave best technical graphics to MGS4 in 2008, which had some of the worst graphics of its time

washd123
Seriously? Besides Crysis, what looked so great in 2008 that made MGS4 have "some of the worst graphics of its time"?
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PS3 ftw:)

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#61 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Mine only goes up to 72 degrees. What brand do you have?

I'm also using EVGA precision though, which adjusts the fan speed to correlate with how hot it's getting. Do you ever change the fan speed?

DragonfireXZ95

You have a GTX 480? And it only gets up to 72? Hmm. That's interesting. Mine is EVGA.

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[QUOTE="Guppy507"]

Is your GPU seriously running at 92 degrees? :| That's ridiculous.

Stevo_the_gamer

Pretty standard for the GTX 480. I like my space heater though. It eats everything I throw at it.

I think I've never seen my GPU get much higher then 60 degrees C. O.o
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Obviously because metro ran pretty badly.

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[QUOTE="washd123"]

they gave best technical graphics to MGS4 in 2008, which had some of the worst graphics of its time

jalexbrown

Seriously? Besides Crysis, what looked so great in 2008 that made MGS4 have "some of the worst graphics of its time"?

MGS 4 had great graphics. Still, It should have went to banjo nuts and bolts or gears of war 2.

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I think I've never seen my GPU get much higher then 60 degrees C. O.ohexashadow13
The GTX 480 and 470 are renowned for getting super hot. The newer GTX 500 series did some changes to the design to alleviate some of the heat complaints, but even that still hits the 80s; lots of power driving that heat.

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#66 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Obviously because metro ran pretty badly.

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So how did Crysis win in 2007?
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"] I think I've never seen my GPU get much higher then 60 degrees C. O.oStevo_the_gamer

The GTX 480 and 470 are renowned for getting super hot. The newer GTX 500 series did some changes to the design to alleviate some of the heat complaints, but even that still hits the 80s; lots of power driving that heat.

You need to get a cooler master HAF case :P

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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Obviously because metro ran pretty badly.

Stevo_the_gamer

So how did Crysis win in 2007?

It only ran badly because the cards were not strong enough. Metro runs badly because it was coded by monkeys :P

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MGS 4 had great graphics. Still, It should have went to banjo nuts and bolts or gears of war 2.

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Yeah, it totally should have gone to Gears of War 2 and Banjo instead of Crysis Warhead... Wait a minute.

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#70 coolmonkeykid
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You actually take the awards and reviews on this site seriously? Black ops and Reach should've scored no higher than a 7.5 for being generic run of the mill shooters but sites need to put up good reviews to keep fans happy. Metro is the greatest looking game i've ever played, even on my mid-range rig. It deserves the reward, but gamespot employees are too busy playing mainstream console games that aren't even fun.
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You need to get a cooler master HAF case :P

theuncharted34

Meh, I already have a Cosmos 1000 -- and she's a beauty, but I wouldn't mind investing into the HAF X. $200 is a it pricey, could always sell the PS3. Hmm.

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="washd123"]

they gave best technical graphics to MGS4 in 2008, which had some of the worst graphics of its time

Seriously? Besides Crysis, what looked so great in 2008 that made MGS4 have "some of the worst graphics of its time"?

MGS 4 had great graphics. Still, It should have went to banjo nuts and bolts or gears of war 2.

Both of those games do look great, but I think all of the nominees beat them in terms of technical prowless.
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

MGS 4 had great graphics. Still, It should have went to banjo nuts and bolts or gears of war 2.

Stevo_the_gamer

Yeah, it totally should have gone to Gears of War 2 and Banjo instead of Crysis Warhead... Wait a minute.

well, GS gives the graphics awards out based on the hardware they are running on, And since the ps3 and 360 are very close in power, and those 2 games looking better than MGS 4, leads me to conclude that one of those 2 games should have won :D

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

MGS 4 had great graphics. Still, It should have went to banjo nuts and bolts or gears of war 2.

Yeah, it totally should have gone to Gears of War 2 and Banjo instead of Crysis Warhead... Wait a minute.

Wasn't Crysis Warhead basically the same engine that powered the original Crysis...you know, from 2007 (which did get best technical graphics)?
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

You need to get a cooler master HAF case :P

Stevo_the_gamer

Meh, I already have a Cosmos 1000 -- and she's a beauty, but I wouldn't mind investing into the HAF X. $200 is a it pricey, could always sell the PS3. Hmm.

Just when the PS3 is hitting its stride?

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"] I think I've never seen my GPU get much higher then 60 degrees C. O.oStevo_the_gamer

The GTX 480 and 470 are renowned for getting super hot. The newer GTX 500 series did some changes to the design to alleviate some of the heat complaints, but even that still hits the 80s; lots of power driving that heat.

My gtx 285 gets up to mid 70's on a taxing game and I have a antec 900 case fans going full blast.
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#77 jalexbrown
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You actually take the awards and reviews on this site seriously? Black ops and Reach should've scored no higher than a 7.5 for being generic run of the mill shooters but sites need to put up good reviews to keep fans happy. Metro is the greatest looking game i've ever played, even on my mid-range rig. It deserves the reward, but gamespot employees are too busy playing mainstream console games that aren't even fun.coolmonkeykid
I guess that explains why the user average on Reach is 8.9. :? Opinions are cool things, eh?
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Obviously because metro ran pretty badly.

Stevo_the_gamer

So how did Crysis win in 2007?

Crysis ran badly but as opposed to metro it wasn't a linear FPS but an open world game and 8 series cards ran the game fine for the most part :P.

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[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Pretty standard for the GTX 480. I like my space heater though. It eats everything I throw at it.

topgunmv

Still ridiculous. :P My room heats up enough from my computer as it is, and my GPU runs at 65 degrees maximum.

You guys using liquid cooling or something crazy? My card averages the mid 70's in demanding games.

No, but I have a mid range GPU (9800 GTX) and a case with very good air flow. I've seen mine get up to 70, but the fan keeps it in the 60's usually.
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Just when the PS3 is hitting its stride?

spookykid143

What stride?

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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]Just when the PS3 is hitting its stride?

Stevo_the_gamer

What stride?

the games list for 2011.

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#82 jalexbrown
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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]Just when the PS3 is hitting its stride?

Stevo_the_gamer

What stride?

EDIT: Okay, I guess I took what you were saying here a touch out of context. :P

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the games list for 2011.

theuncharted34

2011 hasn't started yet, and thus no stride has begun. In fact, the PS3 went down a cliff after May this year. I'm sure the PS3 will get plenty of quality games next year, but lists are only nice when they interest you. And the PS3's list doesn't have many things that interest me.

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Wow PS3 wins best graphics 3 years straight:D

The problem with Metro is that its an unoptimised disaster (It even runs poorly on an i7 for pete's sake). It was clearly rushed to compete with Crysis on who can make the worst badly coded, graphic hungry mess the most.

Adamantium4k2

>Implying the processor has to do with 3d rendering

>Implying Metro 2033 didn't use an x-ray derived engine, which originated in the late 90s

>Implying Crysis is badly coded and not a techanical marvel

>Implying you aren't a fanatical cow who has never played either game

cool story bro

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#85 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

the games list for 2011.

Stevo_the_gamer

2011 hasn't started yet, and thus no stride has begun. In fact, the PS3 went down a cliff after May this year. I'm sure the PS3 will get plenty of quality games next year, but lists are only nice when they interest you. And the PS3's list doesn't have many things that interest me.

what jalexbrown said.

EDIT: hooray for technicality's and taking things out of context. :P

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

MGS 4 had great graphics. Still, It should have went to banjo nuts and bolts or gears of war 2.

jalexbrown

Yeah, it totally should have gone to Gears of War 2 and Banjo instead of Crysis Warhead... Wait a minute.

Wasn't Crysis Warhead basically the same engine that powered the original Crysis...you know, from 2007 (which did get best technical graphics)?

What difference does that make?

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what jalexbrown said.

EDIT: hooray for technicality's and taking things out of context. :P

theuncharted34

Now I'm confused, out of the loop and missed the out of context comment. Cruel, I'll say. Very Cruel!

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The whole awards are a joke, Red Dead Redemption has better writing and voice acting than Mass Effect 2?

I wouldn't take any awards seriously from this place. They also think Demon's Souls is a better RPG than Dragon Age Origins.

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Seriously? Besides Crysis, what looked so great in 2008 that made MGS4 have "some of the worst graphics of its time"?jalexbrown

it has nothing to do with what looked better. games can looked great and still have poor or mediocre graphics

uncharted, gears of war 2, HL2:ep2, far cry 2, STALKER clear skies, all had better graphics than MGS4. not to mention factually crysis warhead had the best graphics of that year.

MGS4 was a technical mess

poor static lighting

poor textures

sub hd resolution

poor shadows

poor AA

if they want to say it looked the best thats great thats their opinion. but to make a catagory called best graphics (which refers to techto begin with) technical, and give the award to a game that factually doesnt have the best graphics, but in reality has some of the worst? that insulting to gamers and anyone with an ounce of intelligence

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#90 psn8214
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I'm sure the PS3 will get plenty of quality games next year, but lists are only nice when they interest you. And the PS3's list doesn't have many things that interest me.

Stevo_the_gamer

Well what's coming for 360? Neither console has many games that interest me either, but I'd say Gears 3 is the only non-multiplat I'm aware of for 360 that I'll be getting for sure next year.

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Funny part about first post is it implies 2033 is just a 1080p game :lol:

Try running it on a 25x16 Dell Ultra Sharp 30" monitor.

This site is a joke and pushes console games for the money. No way GoW3 compares to 2033 graphically...

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They also think Demon's Souls is a better RPG than Dragon Age Origins.

Shoaka

If you're gonna knock the GotY Awards try not to make them look right in the future...

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

I'm sure the PS3 will get plenty of quality games next year, but lists are only nice when they interest you. And the PS3's list doesn't have many things that interest me.

psn8214

Well what's coming for 360? Neither console has many games that interest me either, but I'd say Gears 3 is the only non-multiplat I'm aware of for 360 that I'll be getting for sure next year.

Nothing I'm interested in either.
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Gamespot strikes again!

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The whole awards are a joke, Red Dead Redemption has better writing and voice acting than Mass Effect 2?

I wouldn't take any awards seriously from this place. They also think Demon's Souls is a better RPG than Dragon Age Origins.

Shoaka
Demon's Souls was a better game than DA:O, however Dragon Age was probably a better RPG. But Demon's Souls still counts as an RPG, so therefore, it won the award.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yeah, it totally should have gone to Gears of War 2 and Banjo instead of Crysis Warhead... Wait a minute.

Wasn't Crysis Warhead basically the same engine that powered the original Crysis...you know, from 2007 (which did get best technical graphics)?

What difference does that make?

Because it was comparable to a game on the same system that came out a year prior? That would keep any game on any system from being nominated, I'm willing to bet.
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What I think they're looking for with this award is a sweet spot between what still looks good and what is an impressive achievement within certain hardware limitations. So games that are working with next-(next-next-)generation hardware like Metro are outside of that area, as are all Wii and handheld games. It's a stupid and imbalanced award, but not really worth being outraged over year after year.
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The whole awards are a joke, Red Dead Redemption has better writing and voice acting than Mass Effect 2?

I wouldn't take any awards seriously from this place. They also think Demon's Souls is a better RPG than Dragon Age Origins.

Shoaka
demons souls is a good game but it hardly seems like a RPG to me and I am 22hrs in.
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#99 Renzokucant
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God of War III's graphics are JOKE, a laughing stock, compared to PC Metro 2033. How is PS3's 5 year old crappy graphics chip running at lame 720P resolutions going to compare with PC's with DX 11 HD 5700/5800/6800/6900/GTX 400/500 graphics chips running games @ FULL HD 1080P. I didn't realize that the PS3 was made of magic that it can somehow gererate better graphics then PC Metro 2033. God War III doesn't even have DX 11 effects, tesselation, the list goes on and on that it's quite pathetic. Goes to show Gamespot editors don't know JACK about graphics or either that they run all their games on Intel Integrated graphics. LOL. Metro 2033 pwns God War III in graphics that it's not even funny.

Yearly Best Awards used to have merit now it's a laughing stock. I remember back in the day when the best graphics actually won like PC's Unreal Tournament 2003 in the year 2002. Now it's just a sad joke. Any idiot with a half a brain can see that Metro 2033 is the 2ND best looking game in the world right now after Crysis. Gamespot editors are so much fail.

Xtasy26
agreed.. metro 2033 is amazing.. however i think because its on the 360 they left it out.. because it looks like crap on 360 compared to PC... i mean w/out pushing directx to its limits and using the physics engine, its just not the same, so i think thats why they just overlooked it..