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#1 DustAmulet
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Lets list the AAA Franchises out there, and for fun the popular franchises that are not AAA.

- only games on main consoles and PC to be considered (no handheld games considered)

- only 'main games' in the franchise to be considered (no expansion packs etc.)

- must have more than 1 game released under the franchise

- each of these games has received AAA status

 

AAA Franchises:

- Halo

- God of War

- Half-Life

- Metroid

- Warcraft

- Perfect Dark

- Chrono series

- Civilization

- Seven Kingdoms

- No One Lives Forever

- Max Payne

- Baldurs Gate

 

Not AAA Franchises:

- Metal Gear Solid

- Zelda

- Mario (main)

- Final Fantasy

- Resident Evil

- Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic

- Grand Theft Auto

- Super Smash Bros.

- Fire Emblem

- Diablo

- Elder Scrolls

- Paper Mario

 

Any more to add to lists?

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What, no Final Fantasy?
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#3 Spartan070
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AAA:

WoW

Final Fantasy

KOTOR

Zelda is an AAA franchise

 

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WoW is a tough one to categorize - it really is on it's own (similar to all the different Mario franchises). RTS Warcraft however is AAA thx. Final Fantasy IX = 8.5 = not AAA franchise KOTOR 2 = 8.5 = not AAA franchise Zelda TP = 8.8 = not AAA franchise
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#5 immortality20
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AAA:

WoW

Final Fantasy

KOTOR

Zelda is an AAA franchise

 

Spartan070

He meant every game in the franchise had to get AAA here, I think. And we all know what happened to that in the Zelda one. And I'm sure our of 12 Final Fantisies, one of them didn't get it. But I believe KOTOR is one. If we say only game out of the franchise needs to be AAA then we could throw names like Tony Hawk in there.

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#6 Jagazaar
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What, AAA based on GS scores, Press Averages, User Averages, opinion?

If it IS purely on GS scores, then that's really not a good way to do this sort of thing. A GS review is made by ONE PERSON (albiet a professional, but still), whereas the Press/User averages are a collaborative opinion respresenting a (generally) more accurate description of a game's worth.

Of course, that statement itself is just my opinion, it's your thread in the end. I'd humbly suggest you try it my way though.

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#7 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

AAA:

WoW

Final Fantasy

KOTOR

Zelda is an AAA franchise

immortality20

He meant every game in the franchise had to get AAA here, I think. And we all know what happened to that in the Zelda one. And I'm sure our of 12 Final Fantisies, one of them didn't get it. But I believe KOTOR is one. If we say only game out of the franchise needs to be AAA then we could throw names like Tony Hawk in there.

i think every Final Fantasy was AAA, that MMO doesn't count, it's not a real Final Fantasy in my book.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

AAA:

WoW

Final Fantasy

KOTOR

Zelda is an AAA franchise

immortality20

He meant every game in the franchise had to get AAA here, I think. And we all know what happened to that in the Zelda one. And I'm sure our of 12 Final Fantisies, one of them didn't get it. But I believe KOTOR is one. If we say only game out of the franchise needs to be AAA then we could throw names like Tony Hawk in there.

In that case GTA shouldn't be up there, it's only it's 3D games that have gotten high scores.
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GS scores since we are on GS. It is the best way to do it (if you don't like it, then you are welcome to leave). Their score is final.
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"]GS scores since we are on GS. It is the best way to do it (if you don't like it, then you are welcome to leave). Their score is final.

Fine. But foolish to say that Final Fantasy isn't an AAA franchise when one got AA. You should just count up the amount of AAs vs. AAAs to determine whether it's an AAA franchise. So, if there are 3 AAAs and 2 AAs, it's still a AAA franchise.
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#11 DustAmulet
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[QUOTE="immortality20"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

AAA:

WoW

Final Fantasy

KOTOR

Zelda is an AAA franchise

ithilgore2006

He meant every game in the franchise had to get AAA here, I think. And we all know what happened to that in the Zelda one. And I'm sure our of 12 Final Fantisies, one of them didn't get it. But I believe KOTOR is one. If we say only game out of the franchise needs to be AAA then we could throw names like Tony Hawk in there.

In that case GTA shouldn't be up there, it's only it's 3D games that have gotten high scores.

Thanks! GTA2 = 6.8 = not AAA franchise.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DustAmulet"]GS scores since we are on GS. It is the best way to do it (if you don't like it, then you are welcome to leave). Their score is final.

Fine. But foolish to say that Final Fantasy isn't an AAA franchise when one got AA. You should just count up the amount of AAs vs. AAAs to determine whether it's an AAA franchise. So, if there are 3 AAAs and 2 AAs, it's still a AAA franchise.

This is a list for the elite franchises out there. If they have one AA game in their main series, they do not make the cut.
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This is a list for the elite franchises out there. If they have one AA game in their main series, they do not make the cut.DustAmulet
Which basically just makes it impossible for any franchise with more than 2-3 games not eligible.
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"]This is a list for the elite franchises out there. If they have one AA game in their main series, they do not make the cut.Jandurin
Which basically just makes it impossible for any franchise with more than 2-3 games not eligible.

Well they should have thought of that before they released the dud in their series.
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You forgot Perfect Dark.
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You forgot Perfect Dark.Spartan070
Good call.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DustAmulet"]This is a list for the elite franchises out there. If they have one AA game in their main series, they do not make the cut.DustAmulet
Which basically just makes it impossible for any franchise with more than 2-3 games not eligible.

Well they should have thought of that before they released the dud in their series.

Then take off Warcraft, Halo, Metriod and Half Life from the list. Warcraft II on PS recieve 7.0 Warcraft II: Battle net edition recieved 8.0 on PC etc etc etc Halo multiplayer map pack recieved 8.7 Half-Life 2: Episode 1 recieved 8.7 and I'm sure Metriod from one of the Gameboy or something recieved less than 9.0
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DustAmulet"]This is a list for the elite franchises out there. If they have one AA game in their main series, they do not make the cut.TriangleHard
Which basically just makes it impossible for any franchise with more than 2-3 games not eligible.

Well they should have thought of that before they released the dud in their series.

Then take off Warcraft, Halo, Metriod and Half Life from the list. Warcraft II on PS recieve 7.0 Warcraft II: Battle net edition recieved 8.0 on PC etc etc etc Halo multiplayer map pack recieved 8.7 Half-Life 2: Episode 1 recieved 8.7 and I'm sure Metriod from one of the Gameboy or something recieved less than 9.0

No. - Warcraft 2 on PS and Warcraft 2: Battle.net edition are not main games in the franchise - Halo multiplayer pack is not a main game in the franchise - Half-Life 2: Episode 1 is not a main game in the franchise - Gameboy is handheld
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Well they should have thought of that before they released the dud in their series.DustAmulet

Ok, I can understand you want to use review scores as the basis for your list (was actually looking for frachises that matched that criteria, nothing yet), fair enough, but seriously, anything under a 9.0 a dud?

Diablo 2:- 8.5

MGS:- 8.5

LoZ TP:- 8.8

LoZ OoT (VC edition):- 8.9

Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind:- 8.7 

And that's just a few random examples off the top of my head, I could add a MASSIVE amount to that list. Care to explain how these games were 'duds'? :?

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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"]Well they should have thought of that before they released the dud in their series.Jagazaar

Ok, I can understand you want to use review scores as the basis for your list (was actually looking for frachises that matched that criteria, nothing yet), fair enough, but seriously, anything under a 9.0 a dud?

Diablo 2:- 8.5

MGS:- 8.5

LoZ TP:- 8.8

LoZ OoT (VC edition):- 8.9

Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind:- 8.7

And that's just a few random examples off the top of my head, I could add a MASSIVE amount to that list. Care to explain how these games were 'duds'? :?

Ummmm they did not get a score of 9.0 or greater. Their franchise does not make the cut of the elite AAA franchises.
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This thread fails hard.
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Well then add Chrono franchise in there.

Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross both got over 9.0

As for Warcraft II on PS, it is main franchise game but ported. So it is part of their franchise. Like you said, they should've thought about it before releasing a dud right?

Also Dragon Quest IX is exclusive on nintendo DS, would you say it's not part of main franchise because it is handheld game?

 

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For not AAA, Super Smash Bros. and Fire Emblem deserve a place on there:)

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Basically, in the end, we're going to have a much more attractive AA franchise list than AAA. If that was your original intent, TC, then I'm actually impressed, because it shows the true value of basing games/reviews solely on the numbers they get.
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This thread fails hard.HazeNPopes

 

Yes I agree very much so :|  

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Well then add Chrono franchise in there.

Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross both got over 9.0

As for Warcraft II on PS, it is main franchise game but ported. So it is part of their franchise. Like you said, they should've thought about it before releasing a dud right?

Also Dragon Quest IX is exclusive on nintendo DS, would you say it's not part of main franchise because it is handheld game?

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Warcraft 2 released on PC first and received AAA. It's port is not the main game. No handhelds are not included.
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[QUOTE="immortality20"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

AAA:

WoW

Final Fantasy

KOTOR

Zelda is an AAA franchise

 

Spartan070

He meant every game in the franchise had to get AAA here, I think. And we all know what happened to that in the Zelda one. And I'm sure our of 12 Final Fantisies, one of them didn't get it. But I believe KOTOR is one. If we say only game out of the franchise needs to be AAA then we could throw names like Tony Hawk in there.

i think every Final Fantasy was AAA, that MMO doesn't count, it's not a real Final Fantasy in my book.

Final Fantasy X-2 didn't get AAA. 

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It would be nice to see a more accurate list of AA-AAA games on another thread, cause this thread has failed.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="immortality20"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

AAA:

WoW

Final Fantasy

KOTOR

Zelda is an AAA franchise

sirk1264

He meant every game in the franchise had to get AAA here, I think. And we all know what happened to that in the Zelda one. And I'm sure our of 12 Final Fantisies, one of them didn't get it. But I believe KOTOR is one. If we say only game out of the franchise needs to be AAA then we could throw names like Tony Hawk in there.

i think every Final Fantasy was AAA, that MMO doesn't count, it's not a real Final Fantasy in my book.

Final Fantasy X-2 didn't get AAA.

FF X-2 was side story, not part of the main FF franchise.
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[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

Well then add Chrono franchise in there.

Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross both got over 9.0

As for Warcraft II on PS, it is main franchise game but ported. So it is part of their franchise. Like you said, they should've thought about it before releasing a dud right?

Also Dragon Quest IX is exclusive on nintendo DS, would you say it's not part of main franchise because it is handheld game?

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Warcraft 2 released on PC first and received AAA. It's port is not the main game. No handhelds are not included.

Then put Zelda back in AAA it got 9.0 on Gamecube version and the game was intended to be Gamecube version.
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"][QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

Well then add Chrono franchise in there.

Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross both got over 9.0

As for Warcraft II on PS, it is main franchise game but ported. So it is part of their franchise. Like you said, they should've thought about it before releasing a dud right?

Also Dragon Quest IX is exclusive on nintendo DS, would you say it's not part of main franchise because it is handheld game?

TriangleHard
Warcraft 2 released on PC first and received AAA. It's port is not the main game. No handhelds are not included.

Then put Zelda back in AAA it got 9.0 on Gamecube version and the game was intended to be Gamecube version.

Even though I disagree and think the main version is the Wii version, it wouldn't matter since Zelda TP received 8.9 on the GC, thus failing to make the list of elite AAA franchises.
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it got 9.0 on Gamecube version and the game was intended to be Gamecube version.TriangleHard
8.9.
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add those:


CIvilization

Seven Kingdoms

No One Lives Forever

Max Payne

Baldurs Gate

Advance Wars

Paper Mario

and maybe Combat Mission ( 1 and 2 were AAAs, Afrika Corps was more of stand alone add-on than full next game)

 

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[QUOTE="TriangleHard"][QUOTE="DustAmulet"][QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

Well then add Chrono franchise in there.

Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross both got over 9.0

As for Warcraft II on PS, it is main franchise game but ported. So it is part of their franchise. Like you said, they should've thought about it before releasing a dud right?

Also Dragon Quest IX is exclusive on nintendo DS, would you say it's not part of main franchise because it is handheld game?

 

DustAmulet

Warcraft 2 released on PC first and received AAA. It's port is not the main game. No handhelds are not included.

Then put Zelda back in AAA it got 9.0 on Gamecube version and the game was intended to be Gamecube version.

Even though I disagree and think the main version is the Wii version, it wouldn't matter since Zelda TP received 8.9 on the GC, thus failing to make the list of elite AAA franchises.

 

WTF is an elite AAA franchise?  Are you just making this BS up? 

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[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="immortality20"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

AAA:

WoW

Final Fantasy

KOTOR

Zelda is an AAA franchise

 

TriangleHard

He meant every game in the franchise had to get AAA here, I think. And we all know what happened to that in the Zelda one. And I'm sure our of 12 Final Fantisies, one of them didn't get it. But I believe KOTOR is one. If we say only game out of the franchise needs to be AAA then we could throw names like Tony Hawk in there.

i think every Final Fantasy was AAA, that MMO doesn't count, it's not a real Final Fantasy in my book.

Final Fantasy X-2 didn't get AAA.

FF X-2 was side story, not part of the main FF franchise.

agree ,if it would be just that it would IMO count, but both FFIX and XI got AA scores 

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WTF is an elite AAA franchise?  Are you just making this BS up? 

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Of course he is. He owns this reality.
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add those:

CIvilization

Seven Kingdoms

No One Lives Forever

Max Payne

Baldurs Gate

and maybe Combat Mission ( 1 and 2 were AAAs, Afrika Corps was more of stand alone add-on than full next game)

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Wouldn't it be better to take the average of each game scored to find out if it is a AAA franchise.  That is just my opinion.
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WTF is an elite AAA franchise? Are you just making this BS up?

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Of course he is. He owns this reality.

 

His reality sucks imo. 

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#40 dimar19
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AAA Franchises:

- Seven Kingdoms 

 

Not AAA Franchises:

- Resident Evil

- Diablo

DustAmulet

 What? 

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="UndyingVayne"]

WTF is an elite AAA franchise? Are you just making this BS up?

UndyingVayne

Of course he is. He owns this reality.

 

His reality sucks imo. 

maybe, but it's not "his reality". it's the reality we all live in. he asked for AAA franchises, if you can't play along why come here whining and crying? Really. It's like is somebody would ask "what's the best whisky in the world" and you would come whine that champagne is also good and his reality sucks as he only drinks whisky(which he obviosuly doesn't nor does he only play AAA games, he just asked about AAAs) 

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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"]

AAA Franchises:

- Seven Kingdoms 

 

Not AAA Franchises:

- Resident Evil

- Diablo

dimar19

 What? 

owned :D 

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maybe, but it's not "his reality". it's the reality we all live in. he asked for AAA franchises, if you can't play along why come here whining and crying? Really. It's like is somebody would ask "what's the best whisky in the world" and you would come whine that champagne is also good and his reality sucks as he only drinks whisky(which he obviosuly doesn't nor does he only play AAA games, he just asked about AAAs) 

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I was just saying it was his reality because it's his thread. He makes the rules in his own thread, hence, it's his own reality.
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#44 DustAmulet
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"]

AAA Franchises:

- Seven Kingdoms

 

Not AAA Franchises:

- Resident Evil

- Diablo

dimar19

What?

Quite simple:

Seven Kingdoms - 9.0
Seven Kingdoms II: The Fryhtan Wars - 9.1
Seven Kingdoms = AAA Franchise

Resident Evil 2 - 8.9
Resident Evil = Not AAA Franchise

Diablo II - 8.5
Diablo = Not AAA Franchise

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#45 dimar19
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Quite simple: Seven Kingdoms - 9.0Seven Kingdoms II: The Fryhtan Wars - 9.1 Seven Kingdoms = AAA Franchise Resident Evil 2 - 8.9 Resident Evil = Not AAA Franchise Diablo II - 8.5 Diablo = Not AAA FranchiseDustAmulet

Man, Seven Kingdoms is crap and Diablo 2 is one of the best games ever made. RE 4 pretty good also.

 RE 4 got 9.6 but I say Diablo 2 is much better. 

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#46 DustAmulet
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"]Quite simple: Seven Kingdoms - 9.0Seven Kingdoms II: The Fryhtan Wars - 9.1 Seven Kingdoms = AAA Franchise Resident Evil 2 - 8.9 Resident Evil = Not AAA Franchise Diablo II - 8.5 Diablo = Not AAA Franchisedimar19

Man, Seven Kingdoms is crap and Diablo 2 is one of the best games ever made. RE 4 pretty good also.

RE 4 got 9.6 but I say Diablo 2 is much better.

I am sorry about your personal feelings towards this issue, however the fact remains that on Gamespot, Diablo and Resident Evil are not AAA Franchises.

The fact that RE4 got a 9.6 has no consequence upon Resident Evil being an AAA Franchise, as Resident Evil ( 8.2 ), Resident Evil 2 ( 8.9 ) and Resident Evil 3 ( 8.8 ) did not make AAA.

If just one game in the main series of the franchise does not receive AAA, that franchise is cut from the list.

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#47 helium_flash
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You make the standards too hard.  It should be that if the scores of all the games in the main series (no spin-offs) average AAA, then it's a AAA franchise.
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#48 UndyingVayne
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[QUOTE="UndyingVayne"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="UndyingVayne"]

WTF is an elite AAA franchise? Are you just making this BS up?

AdrianWerner

Of course he is. He owns this reality.

 

His reality sucks imo.

maybe, but it's not "his reality". it's the reality we all live in. he asked for AAA franchises, if you can't play along why come here whining and crying? Really. It's like is somebody would ask "what's the best whisky in the world" and you would come whine that champagne is also good and his reality sucks as he only drinks whisky(which he obviosuly doesn't nor does he only play AAA games, he just asked about AAAs)

 

He's asking for "elite AAA franchises" whatever that means.... I think it means something along the lines of if you have a series of games which got AAA score on GS and one of those games in the series happens to be an AA, then the hole series or franchise or whatever is a flop in otherwords... where is the sense in that.. If this is his reality then it sucks imo :|

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#49 mtradr43
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[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="immortality20"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

AAA:

WoW

Final Fantasy

KOTOR

Zelda is an AAA franchise

TriangleHard

He meant every game in the franchise had to get AAA here, I think. And we all know what happened to that in the Zelda one. And I'm sure our of 12 Final Fantisies, one of them didn't get it. But I believe KOTOR is one. If we say only game out of the franchise needs to be AAA then we could throw names like Tony Hawk in there.

i think every Final Fantasy was AAA, that MMO doesn't count, it's not a real Final Fantasy in my book.

Final Fantasy X-2 didn't get AAA.

FF X-2 was side story, not part of the main FF franchise.

it was not a side story, to me it looked like a full game, just as ff xi is. just accept the fact that there have been some lame ff games
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#50 DustAmulet
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You make the standards too hard. It should be that if the scores of all the games in the main series (no spin-offs) average AAA, then it's a AAA franchise.helium_flash
You can make a thread like that, this is my thread with extremely high standards. Every game in the franchise must be AAA.