What Call of Duty: WWII's Content Could Be Based on a Single Screenshot

WTF dude, we were just having a simple conversation on a gaming board talking about games.

Chill out.

There is a reason the term "J@p attack" was created. Pearl Harbor was a military base of a country that had not fired a shot at the Japanese. The cruised in with no warning and slaughtered almost 3000 people. Not all were military as civilians are employed on bases. Rumors and hearsay? That's pathetic. So documentation in Europe was truthful but in the Pacific somehow not? LMAO

You need to get educated, pal. The japanese were absolutely ruthless in crimes against humanity in their invasions of China and all of South east Asia. They were scumbags raping women, bayonetting children. They got what they deserved with those bombs. And if WW2 is still put in Germany's face, the Japanese can live with their history on blast also.

Give me a fvcking break with this "lets not offend Japan" bullcrap. It happened, they were guilty and beaten because of it. They can deal with it.

@GarGx1:I only mentioned the apologies thing because there was a write up when Obama paid respects in August 2016 at the memorial in Japan. He never made an official apology was the complaint. Well there has never been one before and still wasnt at the Pearl Harbor memorial Dec 2016 from the Japanese Prime Minister. I remember reading that piece last year and thought "fvck off".

That's not something out of the left field though.

Capturing and repurposing enemy equipment was very much a part of the war, especially on the Eastern front.

What will happen though, is Germans spawning with fucking cannabis camo M1 garands, kitted with x16 optics and laser sights.

Wouldn't be CoD without that shit.

Having recently tried PUBG i was caught off guard by how well designed it is.

It's obviously very ghetto as far as optimization, netcode and QoL features go, but the base of it is rock solid. And as far as i can tell, it's already more slick and feature-complete than its competition that's being around for years.

Just sayin', don't diss it before playing.

But COD, UO and COD2 never needed that sh1t to be any good :)

Also good luck trying to wield a STG44 as a US soldier when your army doesn't give out any ammo for it :P

Those games didn't come out yesterday, my friend. This is not how any of this works anymore. And it's been like this for a decade.

You don't need your army to give you ammo when you've captured an enemy wearhouse chock-full of it.

Besides, US not only did produce ammo for it, they produced knock-off versions of it. Like any country to get a hold of one at the time, really.

Although this weapon did come way late into the war to see much use on the frontlines by any side, it's still in the realm of possibility to have a US soldier wielding one.

So games like Red Orchestra 2, Rising Storm, Day of Infamy, Rising Storm 2 suddenly don't exist ?

So not only do you need to find an STG as a US soldier, you also need to be among the squad that captures the enemy warehouse ? That sounds like a lot of ifs, and I still believe that about 99% of US soldiers in WW2 were running around with M1 Garands, not Sturmgewehrs.

"it's still in the realm of possibility to have a US soldier wielding one."

That's like saying i'd be fine to see every German tank be a Sturmtiger, eventhough Panzer IVs and Panthers were way more comon.

Are they called Call Of Duty? If not then what's your point?

This is not a historical recreation, this is a fucking videogame.

A game where you're taking a role of an exceptional soldier that kills hundreds of jerries through dozens of missions and lives to tell the story.

Not a soldier from a roadbuilding squad.

Not a soldier from a cooking squad.

What about this romanticized collective image of every heroic soldier of the time capturing and using enemy equipment do you find so unbelievable?

If you're looking for realism, at no point CoD was about that.

If you're looking to play an everyman grunt, at no point CoD was about that.

What about authenticity ? Can I ask for that ?

Because eventhough COD games were never realistic they sure as hell were authentic.

The authenticity was a staple of the franchise up until Modern Warfare 1. All of those games had deep research on their locations and weaponry used.

Most, if not all, of the missions in Call of Duty 1, United Offensive, COD2 and World at War were based on true events.

When I visited Normandy a few years back I actually recognized the british glider and the pegasus bridge from playing Call of Duty 1.

If we don't even ask for any standards in our games anymore, I agree with you: what's the point of giving our money ? What's the point of playing COD ?

I don't remember a WW2 CoD game where you couldn't procure an STG44 as allies at some point.

What's the big deal, again?

If that shit was authentic, why is assuming that your US marine guy just did the same thing 5 minutes ago a big stretch all of a sudden?

That's a funny way of saying "ripped straight from recent war films/series".

So the movie/game wasn't based on a true location / true events ? What the hell are you even saying, man ?

And from the start I was talking about Multiplayer.

Notice how I said "spawning in with" there ?

I have absolutely no problem with taking an STG44 from a dead German soldier as a US soldier. I don't know what you are argueing here, as that is entirely within the realm of reason.

The movie is very loosely based on the historical events and the book that it was supposed to adapt to the big screen. And every bit of fantasy from the movie making it into the game reveals that the game very much rips off the movie, not paying its dues to the actual events.

What's your point then? Is it impossible for you to believe that your US soldier guy looted himself an STG before "spawning"? Is that it?

Thanks

Is what you'll tell the doctor after he prescribes you your glasses.

Here, let me help you out.

As in, the whole 2 guys 1 rifle thing is a fiction ripped straight from the movie.

The whole soldiers bum rushing in the open out of the boat is a fiction ripped straight from the movie.

The whole SS officer taking a fucking shower in the middle of Stalingrad is a fiction ripped straight from the movie.

None of that shit makes a lick of sense since Stalingrad was fucking Sniper Central of Sniper City, the main tourist spot of Sniper County.

The only things moving outside the buildings were the armor and grass.

Taking all of that into account, the only historically accurate things about the mission are the name of the fucking city and the fact that it has a river nearby.

So try again, my boy.

CoD series is Movie Quotes: The Video Game. It's just some people like yourself did not see Leon The Professional before the Bollywood Leon and can't help but tell other people how poignant this one Indian movie is.

And since you didn't address this:

I'm taking it as you conceding having no point in relation to Allies spawning with STGs.

@R10nu: So one moment you are argueing Russians not getting a rifle isn't authentic.

And the next moment you are argueing Germans spawning in with M1 Garands and US soldiers spawning in with STG44 is totally believable.

Do you really need me to point out how nonsensical your arguments sound ?

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Really now ?

Also lol at the "Try again my boy". I ain't going anywhere 'mah boy'. I've been here since 2004 ;)

No, the whole scenario isn't authentic top-to-bottom because it apes a blockbuster movie instead of faithfully recreating historical events as you claim it does.

You really need those glasses, kid.

Or learn to read.

Or both.

Here, let me reiterate this argument for you, since you obviously don't follow at this point.

You: US troops spawning with STG44s would be ridicuous.

Me: No it wouldn't, since US troops did loot some of those during the war.

You: But that's too much of a stretch given how incredibly authentic and historically accurate CoD games were before.

Me: They never were, here's an example out the top of my head of them not even being remotely close to the historical events they portray.

You: Y-you're contradicting yourself..! G-gotcha! Haha... ha...

Me: I really am not.

Impress me.

Wow, so you can't actually quote me so you just put words in my mouth and paraphrase what I said ?

That's not much of an argument.

Yeah I sure sound like a stuttering baffoon, that sure sounds like me :O

See that's the difference between me and you: I actually countered everything you said by:

ACTUALLY QUOTING YOU

I know: shocker right :O

Hmmm, I see: personal insults.

Another brilliant R10nu argument.

All I need is this really:

You clearly already owned yourself.

You said it.

You mean like omitting this:

And paraphrasing it as this:

Without actually quoting me once in that post.

Tone down the lies and the hypocrisy, kid, you're looking mighty desperate here.

300 is based on true events.

What's your point, idiot?

Now you're gonna try and move the goalposts, pretending you didn't say this in the same post the quote above comes from?

That or you don't even remember what the **** you were saying earlier in this thread.

Either way you don't come out of this looking good, so don't throw a hissy fit over me calling you what you deserve to be called in this situation.

I mean holy shit, you're an absolute dumbass. Can't wait to see how you'll try and untangle this clusterfuck you brought onto yourself.

Inb4 "B-b-but i was trolling u T_T".