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#51 TacticalDesire
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It depends I think its gotta be PC overall but thats really not one company. In terms of companies, no one milks more in the accessory area than MS, with paying online, wireless adapter, wireless charging kits etc, but then on the game front no one milks titles more than Nintendo. Pretty same set of characters for 30 years. Even if the games still sell and are enjoyable you cannot argue that that isn't milking an IP. Then theres Sony, they don't really milk much but have been extremely arrogant with their pricing...I'm sure everyone remembers the $600 E3. Anyway the bottomline all the companies are at fault but as far as "milking" goes I think its a toss-up between Nintendo and MS.

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#52 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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55 bucks for controllers-sony

50-microsoft

50 bucks online-microsoft

50-psn+

they seem very similar

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#53 Swift_Boss_A
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*looks at poll*

Who are cows again lol?

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#54 789shadow
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For it to be milkage, one has to feel milked.

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#55 Swift_Boss_A
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For it to be milkage, one has to feel milked.

789shadow

If that was the case then PS3 gamers would not be called cows.

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#56 elchiquilin
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I entered this topic in hopes of seeing activision listed
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#57 Silverbond
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We already know the answer. MS.

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#58 stvee101
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The fact that MS actually charges you to play online makes this an easy decision.

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#60 Swift_Boss_A
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We already know the answer. MS.

Silverbond

umm what? WRONG!

PS3 games are cows which is an animal known to get milked by farmers, and the cows probably enjoy getting milked from what I heard. PS3 is Sony made system therefore Sony is milking most this gen. SW rules FTMFW.

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#61 Swift_Boss_A
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Cowspot.

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This place will remain a Lemmspot unless the word cow has been given to their right-full owner, the 360 gamers. Seems they influence the names more the anyone otherwise the PS3 gamers would not be left with an outdated name. You know when something is outdated it is usually changed, just saying.

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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] yeah but if you want more gigs of space you need to buy a proprietary hdd and its way overpriced.1stPlaceWinner

dude, believe it or not, i got my 360 december 05 with a 20gig hdd and still have 3.5gig free space. That 360 RRoDd last year so i got an arcade and still use the same hard drive.

my point is that you dont need a huge hdd to play 360´s games since there are no mandatory instals. I have like 10 arcade games and usually unistall the demos after play them.

thats cool if you personally dont need it, but its still an overpriced proprietary accessory.

Yep, i agree that those who buy many accessories are being milked. Personally i dont need them :)

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#63 KittenWishes
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$ony. What other company has ever REMOVED features from its console, then created a service that adds nothing for $50 a year?
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#64 EmpCom
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Microsoft. It's unforgiveable to charge £60.00 just for a wifi adapter when Sony built one into their console. And the HD add on when Sony had blu ray. And a HDD if you bought the basic model even though most games need one. And a charger for your wireless pad.

No other company comes close. I like my Xbox, but its a good job because I've paid through the nose for a console somehow inferior to the PS3.

Like it was unforgiveable last gen when you had to buy ps2 memory cards when the xbox had a built in hdd or when you had to buy a multitap when xbox had 4 ports
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#65 Asim90
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Definitely Microsoft, which makes me wonder why PS3 fanboys are called 'cows', its more fitting to Xbox fanboys if anything.

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#66 stvee101
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[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

Microsoft. It's unforgiveable to charge £60.00 just for a wifi adapter when Sony built one into their console. And the HD add on when Sony had blu ray. And a HDD if you bought the basic model even though most games need one. And a charger for your wireless pad.

No other company comes close. I like my Xbox, but its a good job because I've paid through the nose for a console somehow inferior to the PS3.

EmpCom

Like it was unforgiveable last gen when you had to buy ps2 memory cards when the xbox had a built in hdd or when you had to buy a multitap when xbox had 4 ports

Even though that was last gen,its a good point.

Sony did milk its customers pretty badly,probably because they were so confident of the PS2's domination.

Those memory cards were pricey back in the day,and they filled up fast.

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#67 navyguy21
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Definitely Microsoft, which makes me wonder why PS3 fanboys are called 'cows', its more fitting to Xbox fanboys if anything.

Asim90
Because Sony fans got milked last gen....................yet its somehow bad now. Hmmmmm
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#68 Mario1331
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My vote would have to go to M$. As much as I enjoy the 360, M$ has seriously insulted gamers this gen by charging ridiculous prices for their add-ons. But ALL three companies to their fair share of "milking" IMHO. For example, why can't I play PS2 games on the PS3 when I can play XB games on the 360 and GC games on the Wii? So for me to enjoy the back catalog of great PS2 software I have to purchase a PS2. :| And with Nintendo I have to purchase two wii-motes and nunchucks just to play two player games and don't get me started on the wii-motion plus. And then you have to purchase acharge kitsince, like 360 controllers,they don't come with internal batteries. Funny how fanboysalways seem to leave those details out when talking about the wii and bashing the 360.

And to the PC argument, yes I do believe the PC is the most expensive venture ingaming.While you can build a PC for$500-600 thatcan run a game like crysis on max (w/40 fps) or so I've been told, I highly doubt a rig built with a budget in mind in 2005 will run crysis with those settings. Butbecause you can do a lot more with PC's I believe the price is warrented.

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MS doe overcharge in you HAVE to pay for wii its not a ranking it who milks the most accesories etc and ppl feel its MS and i have to agree

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#69 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="Asim90"]

Definitely Microsoft, which makes me wonder why PS3 fanboys are called 'cows', its more fitting to Xbox fanboys if anything.

navyguy21

Because Sony fans got milked last gen....................yet its somehow bad now. Hmmmmm

I'm sure it was bad last gen too, that's why the name cows were made.

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#70 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Asim90"]

Definitely Microsoft, which makes me wonder why PS3 fanboys are called 'cows', its more fitting to Xbox fanboys if anything.

FIipMode

Because Sony fans got milked last gen....................yet its somehow bad now. Hmmmmm

I'm sure it was bad last gen too, that's why the name cows were made.

i mean cows are now the one on offense as if it makes MS evil, and 360 fans naive because they buy those things. Last gen, Sony had more add-ons than the other two.
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#72 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="aleuni"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

Micro$oft without a shadow of a doubt.

Unlike most people, I don't mind paying for XBL. I'm a firm believer in you get what you pay for and its a quality service which is well deserved of my few quid a month.

Accessories, on the other hand, are a different story altogether. My heart breaks when I hear people have shelled out €80 for a Wi-Fi adapter that should have been bog-standard from the beginning. Not including it was a concious decision from M$...I can't think of one accessory thats is worth its face-value, so yeah Microsoft definetely wins this one.

As for who has the better quality hardware/software, I've always thought of Microsoft having the better GUI and Netcode for XBL (them being a software company might help) and Sony having the better hardware in the PS3 i.e. far superior capabilities to the Xbox 360 (Sony being a hardware company). I really think anyone who believes the two consoles are equal in graphical power need a reality check.

balfe1990

ps3 has a better cpu, but the Xenos is considered to be a better gpu

Not being funny here and I know its off-topic, but who exactly thinks that Xenos is the better GPU? A crowd of people on a forum who say so doesn't make it true, I'd only accept any professional opinions.

its an actual fact that the rsx couldn't keep up with the xenos without the help of the cell, 96 million shader ops between vertex or pixel and rsx does 66 million pixel and 8.8 million vertex and it can't do both at the same time.
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#73 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] Because Sony fans got milked last gen....................yet its somehow bad now. Hmmmmmnavyguy21

I'm sure it was bad last gen too, that's why the name cows were made.

i mean cows are now the one on offense as if it makes MS evil, and 360 fans naive because they buy those things. Last gen, Sony had more add-ons than the other two.

Fanboys flip-flop, nothing new.

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Microsoft. It's unforgiveable to charge £60.00 just for a wifi adapter when Sony built one into their console. And the HD add on when Sony had blu ray. And a HDD if you bought the basic model even though most games need one. And a charger for your wireless pad.

No other company comes close. I like my Xbox, but its a good job because I've paid through the nose for a console somehow inferior to the PS3.

Chemical_Viking
i think there is one game on the market that requires a HDD for 360 and its final fantasy 11, wifi,hdd, hd media are all optional products on 360 and don't really stop you from being able to play games.
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#75 navigata
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I'm going to go ahead and say Microsoft.

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#76 abuabed
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[QUOTE="abuabed"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

How blizzard?

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Maybe he's talking about WoW?

All mmorpg needs to charge fees to keep afloat. Unless he is talking about all those little micro-transactions then yea..at least they don't affect the game at all. Map packs on the other hand....

C'mon, not all of them require so, I was a Guild Wars gamer back in the day and it doesn't.
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#77 Valiant_Rebel
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One cannot be milked if they do not allow themselves to be milked. A company can offer all of the overpriced accesories, membership fees, and DLC as they want to, and all the consumer has to say is "no thanks."

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#78 genaroll
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Sony or nintendo,you can't call buying first party accessories milkage since all first party accessories are more expensive then third party ones..But making like 6 different handhelds that's milkage.
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#79 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="Asim90"]

Definitely Microsoft, which makes me wonder why PS3 fanboys are called 'cows', its more fitting to Xbox fanboys if anything.

navyguy21

Because Sony fans got milked last gen....................yet its somehow bad now. Hmmmmm

No, it was bad and ridiculed big time last generation. It's not like it's somehow bad now, it's been bad for PS2 last generation as well, the threads were littered with stuff about Multitaps, having to buy memory cards, etc. As the name Cow suggested Milking right from the get go. It's the easiest name to make fun of as far as animal names, and it was branded to PS2 fans deliberately because they got milked in accessories hardcore last generation. That certainly didn't go unnoticed, by me, or SW of that era. I actually miss the days of arging about the Gamecube, Xbox, and Playstation 2.

To answer, the milking was bad both times...but the names are completely outdated for this generation.

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#80 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]

Cowspot.

Swift_Boss_A

This place will remain a Lemmspot unless the word cow has been given to their right-full owner, the 360 gamers. Seems they influence the names more the anyone otherwise the PS3 gamers would not be left with an outdated name. You know when something is outdated it is usually changed, just saying.

I made a few threads where all of SW could decide on new names over the years in SW, but the powers that Be and a very vocal minor group wouldn't allow it. It's a shame, but yes, the names are completely outdated.

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#81 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Asim90"]

Definitely Microsoft, which makes me wonder why PS3 fanboys are called 'cows', its more fitting to Xbox fanboys if anything.

SolidTy

Because Sony fans got milked last gen....................yet its somehow bad now. Hmmmmm

No, it was bad and ridiculed big time last generation. It's not like it's somehow bad now, it's been bad for PS2 last generation as well, the threads were littered with stuff about Multitaps, having to buy memory cards, etc. As the name Cow suggested Milking right from the get go. It's the easiest name to make fun of as far as animal names, and it was branded to PS2 fans deliberately because they got milked in accessories hardcore last generation. That certainly didn't go unnoticed, by me, or SW of that era. I actually miss the days of arging about the Gamecube, Xbox, and Playstation 2.

To answer, the milking was bad both times...but the names are completely outdated for this generation.

I agree. We should actually change a lot of stuff here thats outdated :P

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#82 kejigoto
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Why isn't Capcom on this list? That is a freaking company that milks it's games via DLC... Want extra costumes in Street Fighter IV? DLC. Versus mode ON release day for Resident Evil 5. DLC. Want something that should have been included with the game free? DLC. Extra outfits in Dead Rising. DLC. Seems that everything from Capcom comes in the wonderful form of DLC and they milk that stuff like there is not going to a tomorrow. Hey kids, we could have just released some real DLC for Street Fighter IV but instead we've decided to release a whole new game at a "discounted" price thus making all the copies of Street Fighter IV that sold over the course of the last year completely obsolete because Super Street Fighter IV has new characters and we reworked some balancing issues. Now before you jump down my neck on that one, I'm mostly directing it towards the people who hated on Left 4 Dead 2 coming out so quickly behind the first. Never mind the fact that it is an entirely new game while Super Street Fighter IV is basically an expansion with some tweaks to balance things out with the new characters. Also Activision needs to be on the list as well....
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True true, I'd say either Capcom or Activision.
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] Because Sony fans got milked last gen....................yet its somehow bad now. Hmmmmmnavyguy21

No, it was bad and ridiculed big time last generation. It's not like it's somehow bad now, it's been bad for PS2 last generation as well, the threads were littered with stuff about Multitaps, having to buy memory cards, etc. As the name Cow suggested Milking right from the get go. It's the easiest name to make fun of as far as animal names, and it was branded to PS2 fans deliberately because they got milked in accessories hardcore last generation. That certainly didn't go unnoticed, by me, or SW of that era. I actually miss the days of arging about the Gamecube, Xbox, and Playstation 2.

To answer, the milking was bad both times...but the names are completely outdated for this generation.

I agree. We should actually change a lot of stuff here thats outdated :P

I'm with you man!

We are going to have to create a Renegade Revolution on Gamespot.com until our demands are met, Navyguy and SolidTy styIe, lol. :P

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#85 ChiSoxBombers
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Activision, i don't care about the poll. It's Activision hands down.

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#86 205212669269561485377169522720
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For the last 2 generations it had been Sony but I guess it's about time to have a name switch.:P

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#87 mitu123
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Where's Activision?

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#88 xYamatox
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For me, it's Nintendo. Having to pay $200+ for a console that's a slightly better Gamecube with motion controls was dirty. Nintendo could have at least upgraded the hardware to make the games accessable for HD ownere, without blurring the images as much as it does. :evil:

Top it off, the Wii didn't get many good games until recently, and even then, I'm not a huge fan of Mario.

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#89 caseystryker
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consoles have no future, or rather, they do for casualites, but true gamers won't get sucked into this casualization, motion controls and no controller at all crap.

wirey87

Haha, spare me the elitist PC gamer BS.

To answer the question. MS without a doubt. The PS3 is a remarkable value in comparison.

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#90 Malta_1980
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what i spend money for is what i want therefore i dont feel like i'm getting 'milked'...

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#91 surrealnumber5
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Activition
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#92 onuruca
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Microsoft=Milksoft
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#93 genaroll
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Microsoft=Milksoftonuruca
Wintendo Sorry Milksoft All in favor.
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#94 HFkami
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nintendo, they could win this console war with a console that was technically a gamecube with more ram and a new controller. I think more money you cant do.

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#95 Bus-A-Bus
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MS wins this without doubt...

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#96 Kleeyook
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[QUOTE="Xeros606"][QUOTE="italygamer"]

how many false statements did you just make?

italygamer

Besides the monthly sub part, I agree with him. Getting into PC gaming can be expensive if you don't already have a decent setup. And don't even bring up that $600 PC crap, those things aren't good for games 2-3 years past the day they are built.

it all depends on WHEN you choose to build your pc. With developers building games having in mind the smallest denominator - consoles - , Pc gamers know that they'll build their rig after the consoles are released and NOT before. I built my rig in 2007, I know that it will last until the end of this gen, which is probablygonna be another 5 years of no additional costs and upgrades for me ;)

I paid around 800$ almost 3 years ago. for what pc offers, with Steam and freedom of choosing the right accessories for you, I can safely say that Pc gaming is cheaper than console's.

Your statement is true imo. The system that can run Crysis which released in 2007 perfectly fine can play all new games fine up till now, and probably another 1-2 years.
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#97 Rockman999
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This shouldn't be hard, let's see, which company requires that it's customers pay extra in order to have access to the multiplayer content of the game they already paid full price for? ;)
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] Because Sony fans got milked last gen....................yet its somehow bad now. Hmmmmmnavyguy21

No, it was bad and ridiculed big time last generation. It's not like it's somehow bad now, it's been bad for PS2 last generation as well, the threads were littered with stuff about Multitaps, having to buy memory cards, etc. As the name Cow suggested Milking right from the get go. It's the easiest name to make fun of as far as animal names, and it was branded to PS2 fans deliberately because they got milked in accessories hardcore last generation. That certainly didn't go unnoticed, by me, or SW of that era. I actually miss the days of arging about the Gamecube, Xbox, and Playstation 2.

To answer, the milking was bad both times...but the names are completely outdated for this generation.

I agree. We should actually change a lot of stuff here thats outdated :P

Yeah it seems like this gen the Cows are the sheep, the sheep are the lemmings, and the lemmings are the cows. :lol:
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#99 Mystic-G
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Steam clearly milks gamers the most.... oh wait.

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#100 JW-toch
Member since 2008 • 344 Posts

Microsoft obviously, though I do have an Xbox360.