What do you think is killing the gaming industry?

Personally, I believe it's developers focusing on being general and "accessible" as possible to get the most sales. They are going for the cawwadooty teenager/young adult audience when the age of the average gamer is 37 and they have been playing video games for 12 years.

Also, day one DLC and pre-order which allows developers to drum up sales without people even playing the game. So they can make a crappy product and still make money because so many people pre-ordered.

Consoles.

You know its bad when even the console gamres are complaining about dumbed-down games.

Definitely hackers and pirates. DRM exists because of them.

There is nothing killing the game industry and if anyone is right its jandurin.

Consoles.

You know its bad when even the console gamres are complaining about dumbed-down games.

XaosII

lack of innovation.Too many shooters are too many.

EA.....

Last I checked the game industry was growing exponentially. Even better than film industryharshv82

Consoles.

You know its bad when even the console gamres are complaining about dumbed-down games.

XaosII

not sure if serious

[QUOTE="harshv82"]Last I checked the game industry was growing exponentially. Even better than film industry04dcarraher

Graphicly maybe yes but there lot of games that evolves gameplay wise

The industry is dying? News to me...any references?

I can tell you what killing companies like Nintendo, Capcom, and Square Enix...

[QUOTE="harshv82"]Last I checked the game industry was growing exponentially. Even better than film industry04dcarraher

people thinking it's dying.BrunoBRS

Well the recession is probably the main cause of the slide in video game sales.

ummm... it's dying? How can anyone tell its dying? It hooked up to one of those hospital machines? :P

Consoles.

You know its bad when even the console gamres are complaining about dumbed-down games.

XaosII

What a load of bull. Speak for yourself, don't put words in our mouths.

I think people need to remember that gaming is nothing more then entertainment and as long asgamers are entertained and the developers and publishers make some money everyone is happy.

All these comments from people claiming that games are getting dumber or games trying to appeal to abroader audience is a bad thing is silly. People make it seem like there was a magic system or magic gen. in the past that had nothing but games that were art and never had to deal with movie based games, shovelware, cash ins or just poorly made games. There was no such time. Since the beginning of gaming developers have made games that would entertain you enough to keep youpumping in the quarters. They have also taken advantage or marketers and made games based on franchises to sell two items in one move. And of course there have been games that are made by developers who love gaming and want to make something beautiful or amazing. But people need to realize that even within these great devs the games vary.

You have devs that make a beautiful minimilistic game like SOTC and ICO. Or you can have a dev make an action oriented game with little to no plot but is a lot of fun to play like Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden. One dev doesn't love gaming more then the other, they are just entertained by gaming differently just like everyone else.

Gaming is alive and well making plenty of money and selling plenty of merchandise aside from games now. I just finished seeing Drake beat up some pirates while selling me a sub for Subway. There is no death or dying only publishers complaining about not having enough money which is something they will do no matter how much they earn.

[QUOTE="harshv82"]Last I checked the game industry was growing exponentially. Even better than film industry04dcarraher

Pc gaming is the one shrinking.

http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-features/49818-epic-blames-piracy-for-the-decline-of-pc-gaming.

Epic studio's Mike Boss

"And now, if you read our forums, people are saying: 'Why do you hate the PC? You're a console-only company.' And guess what? It's because the money's on console."

Personally, I believe it's developers focusing on being general and "accessible" as possible to get the most sales. They are going for the cawwadooty teenager/young adult audience when the age of the average gamer is 37 and they have been playing video games for 12 years.

Also, day one DLC and pre-order which allows developers to drum up sales without people even playing the game. So they can make a crappy product and still make money because so many people pre-ordered.

TankBusterJenn

Although i agree with all the points you made, IMO Its the constant blueprinted crap the keep chugging out to the point where creativity everything ends up being ether the same or greatly similar. Rarely does something come out that is new and fresh, and when it does those end up being the "great" games. But, creativity is a risk in this business, and this business, like many others, want to minimize the risk at the expense of creativity. This is a necessity to an extent, but i just feel that the industry at its present state has gone too long far with the same formulistic games, and that creativity is necessary at this point.

Wait a minute, since when has the industry been dying?

Pretty sure the industry is healthy atm. But if it is not without problems. Two of them being recession and ever increasing development costs. While I am not so happy about many modern mainstream games, the industry is in no shape or form dying.

greedy developers, online passes, DLC's on day one release, and it's like some major developers are losing their touch.

DLC and DRM.

I didn't know it was dying.

Because it isn't. It's changing, yes, but not dying.

People who actually think the bloody gaming industry is headed for another crash.TheFallenDemon

This. Because it's doing better than ever.

Is the industry not making more money than before?

Fanboyisim.

[QUOTE="TankBusterJenn"]

Personally, I believe it's developers focusing on being general and "accessible" as possible to get the most sales. They are going for the cawwadooty teenager/young adult audience when the age of the average gamer is 37 and they have been playing video games for 12 years.

Also, day one DLC and pre-order which allows developers to drum up sales without people even playing the game. So they can make a crappy product and still make money because so many people pre-ordered.

dzaric

Although i agree with all the points you made, IMO Its the constant blueprinted crap the keep chugging out to the point where creativity everything ends up being ether the same or greatly similar. Rarely does something come out that is new and fresh, and when it does those end up being the "great" games. But, creativity is a risk in this business, and this business, like many others, want to minimize the risk at the expense of creativity. This is a necessity to an extent, but i just feel that the industry at its present state has gone too long far with the same formulistic games, and that creativity is necessary at this point.

I don't think the industry is dying, but I do think that the asinine moves publishers are making to drain more money out of their customers while at the same time catering to an increasingly self entitled core customer base that doesn't feel like they should have to pay for anything but at the same time wanting large budget AAA games to entertain them could definitely kill it.

Everything sucks, All developers are overrated and every game is a rehash. It's effing depressing. If a game doesn't play like a broken 15 year old PC game it's dumbed down.

Jesus.

In all Honesty, I think is big budget games.

Why haven't I read anywhere it's dying?LustForSoul

Used games.Piracy.Lack of innovation.Anything popular and honey badgers.

Lets see... Last gen:

150 million PS2s + 25 million XBOX's + 20 million Gamecubes..

195 million consoles sold in that generation

PS3 = ~ 55 million
Xbox 360 = ~ 55 million

Wii = ~ 85 million?

Already today the 3 consoles have sold 195 million, and this generation is far from over.

Each of them will most likely sell 5+ million before the gen ends.. so I can easily see this generation finishing off with 210-230million consoles sold.

5th generation:

130 million PSones

35 million N64s

~ 10 million saturns?

= 175 million

4th:

50 million SNES

~40 million Genesis

rest sold like nothing

so under 100 million.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]people thinking it's dying.ianuilliam

Everything get impacted from originality to heck the ability to make a game at all. So people that say there's nothing wrong with this industry are the ones that are dillusional. Ironic because people here always act like bussiness experts lol.