What does it profit a Wii to gain the world but loses in graphics?

[QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

I doubt you've played Trauma Center Vandal, it'd impossible to play it with a standard controller, as for the extravagant button thing I could say the mouse is a extravagant analog stick.

Vandalvideo

So why can't it be done with a standard controller? Knock up the sensativity and lower difficulty level.

This guy is freakin' hopeless, go back to what you're best at, defending the PC.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

I doubt you've played Trauma Center Vandal, it'd impossible to play it with a standard controller, as for the extravagant button thing I could say the mouse is a extravagant analog stick.

slothboyadvance

So why can't it be done with a standard controller? Knock up the sensativity and lower difficulty level.Stabby2486

    

This guy is freakin' hopeless, go back to what you're best at, defending the PC.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] how can 2 games that were designed for motion / stylus play be more fun without them? explain that to me -- i honestly think the honus is on you hombre. get your posse if you think im wrong.Vandalvideo

my point exactly dullard - that's why Ninty didn't make a freaking tie you up and whip you console - they made a fun one that millions of people appreciate. get a grip, you're in the minority, get used to it.

hahahahahahahahah, go back to school.

you don't understand anything here.. lol. good luck man, have a good night ;) i'm not fanning your pathetic flames any more.

and neither can you - my point from the beginning. Wii sells well, the games sell well. to use your stupid HS words, objectively the Wii is hammering other consoles in terms of sales. Conclusion = your silly point makes no sense at all. it's like me showing up at the Nintendo original launch asking people why duck hunt wouldn't be more fun with a ******** controller... lol. get some sleep chuck.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

I doubt you've played Trauma Center Vandal, it'd impossible to play it with a standard controller, as for the extravagant button thing I could say the mouse is a extravagant analog stick.

Vandalvideo

yeah, thats much more fun.......... have you ever played the game? i'd give you a freaking medal of solid gold if you could finish the game with standard analog, without the game being altered.

you obviously just don't GET the Wii. so whatever, go play PoS3. it must be lonely.

and neither can you - my point from the beginning. Wii sells well, the games sell well. to use your stupid HS words, objectively the Wii is hammering other consoles in terms of sales. Conclusion = your silly point makes no sense at all. it's like me showing up at the Nintendo original launch asking people why duck hunt wouldn't be more fun with a ******** controller... lol. get some sleep chuck.3picuri3

I'm open for explanations. Please explain why it absolutely can not be done on a standard controller.

Okay, if you know so much about the Wii why don't you record yourself playing it with analog stick? Seriously, it'd be like playing UT 2004 with a standard controller or like playing Oblivion with a DDR dancepad.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]and neither can you - my point from the beginning. Wii sells well, the games sell well. to use your stupid HS words, objectively the Wii is hammering other consoles in terms of sales. Conclusion = your silly point makes no sense at all. it's like me showing up at the Nintendo original launch asking people why duck hunt wouldn't be more fun with a ******** controller... lol. get some sleep chuck.Vandalvideo

well you were right about one thing - you don't know where i'm going with this. conversation over. have a good night sir oblivious.

squint your eyes sometimes, you might see the forest past the trees.

I'm open for explanations. Please explain why it absolutely can not be done on a standard controller.Stabby2486

    

Okay, if you know so much about the Wii why don't you record yourself playing it with analog stick? Seriously, it'd be like playing UT 2004 with a standard controller or like playing Oblivion with a DDR dancepad.

[QUOTE="cjdaweasel"]

I've been worried that since companies love to copy each other, that if the Wii gains a significant market share, the next round of consoles will be following suit. If the main goal of console developers becomes price point and not hardware power, it could lead to not-that-much-more-powerful-but-cheap round of consoles next gen.

I'd hate to think that we're going to be missing out on better graphics and smarter AI in the next round just because eveyone wants to mimic Nintendo's success.

Blackbond

Well you know Sony and Nintendo could come up with their own innovative ideas like Nintendo to make their new systems a run away success. They don't HAVE TO COPY :roll:

That's not the point though. If something is a commercial success, then it will be copied. That's why we have fifteen thousand reality TV shows, more ipod look-alikes than a Chineese street market, and why the PS3 has a built in HD.

If it works, its going to be copied. Companies will go where the money is.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ganon_919"]Who cares? The games are fun...slothboyadvance

fight night round 3 IS alot more fun with a standard controller yes and i can play trauma center on my ds... 

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]and neither can you - my point from the beginning. Wii sells well, the games sell well. to use your stupid HS words, objectively the Wii is hammering other consoles in terms of sales. Conclusion = your silly point makes no sense at all. it's like me showing up at the Nintendo original launch asking people why duck hunt wouldn't be more fun with a ******** controller... lol. get some sleep chuck.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

I'm open for explanations. Please explain why it absolutely can not be done on a standard controller.Vandalvideo

    

Okay, if you know so much about the Wii why don't you record yourself playing it with analog stick? Seriously, it'd be like playing UT 2004 with a standard controller or like playing Oblivion with a DDR dancepad.

Yes, it can be done, but actually succeeding in a level other than the tutorial would be impossible. Why even argue it? Somes games need the Wii-mote to be fun, some just plain need it. Period.

[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

I doubt you've played Trauma Center Vandal, it'd impossible to play it with a standard controller, as for the extravagant button thing I could say the mouse is a extravagant analog stick.

Vandalvideo

and it wouldn't be as fun or as interactive.

i like to think of gaming as something that works towards some sort of immersion, or suspension of disbelief (sorry Vandal, University words). and the Wii does this, so does the DS to an extent.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

I doubt you've played Trauma Center Vandal, it'd impossible to play it with a standard controller, as for the extravagant button thing I could say the mouse is a extravagant analog stick.

3picuri3

and it wouldn't be as fun or as interactive.

i like to think of gaming as something that works towards some sort of immersion, or suspension of disbelief (sorry Vandal, University words). and the Wii does this, so does the DS to an extent.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]and neither can you - my point from the beginning. Wii sells well, the games sell well. to use your stupid HS words, objectively the Wii is hammering other consoles in terms of sales. Conclusion = your silly point makes no sense at all. it's like me showing up at the Nintendo original launch asking people why duck hunt wouldn't be more fun with a ******** controller... lol. get some sleep chuck.slothboyadvance

just leave him alone, he's just trying to get people to flame so he can report them to mods... either that or he's really... really. slow.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

I doubt you've played Trauma Center Vandal, it'd impossible to play it with a standard controller, as for the extravagant button thing I could say the mouse is a extravagant analog stick.

Vandalvideo

and it wouldn't be as fun or as interactive.

i like to think of gaming as something that works towards some sort of immersion, or suspension of disbelief (sorry Vandal, University words). and the Wii does this, so does the DS to an extent.

[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]and neither can you - my point from the beginning. Wii sells well, the games sell well. to use your stupid HS words, objectively the Wii is hammering other consoles in terms of sales. Conclusion = your silly point makes no sense at all. it's like me showing up at the Nintendo original launch asking people why duck hunt wouldn't be more fun with a ******** controller... lol. get some sleep chuck.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"] It would be less accurateVandalvideo

'to keen on proving an unproval'?????

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

So it can still be done then? So we're back where we started. Prove it would be any less fun.

Okay, obviously this flamebait.

[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"] It would be less accurateVandalvideo

and remember folks, he means UNIVERSALLY!!!!! not globally!!! UNIVERSALLY!!! and less fun!!! not less enjoyable!!!

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="cjdaweasel"]

I've been worried that since companies love to copy each other, that if the Wii gains a significant market share, the next round of consoles will be following suit. If the main goal of console developers becomes price point and not hardware power, it could lead to not-that-much-more-powerful-but-cheap round of consoles next gen.

I'd hate to think that we're going to be missing out on better graphics and smarter AI in the next round just because eveyone wants to mimic Nintendo's success.

cjdaweasel

Well you know Sony and Nintendo could come up with their own innovative ideas like Nintendo to make their new systems a run away success. They don't HAVE TO COPY :roll:

That's not the point though. If something is a commercial success, then it will be copied. That's why we have fifteen thousand reality TV shows, more ipod look-alikes than a Chineese street market, and why the PS3 has a built in HD.

If it works, its going to be copied. Companies will go where the money is.

So why did Nintendo create the Wii instead of copying the PS2? 

So it can still be done then? So we're back where we started. Prove it would be any less fun.Stabby2486

    

Okay, obviously this flamebait.

yeah, no ****. made me lose some respect for Vandal - thought this crap was above him personally. guess not.

So it can still be done then? So we're back where we started. Prove it would be any less fun.Stabby2486

    

Okay, obviously this flamebait.

[QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

So it can still be done then? So we're back where we started. Prove it would be any less fun.Vandalvideo

    

Okay, obviously this flamebait.

yay - troll lrn to admit flaymbayt.

[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"] It would be less accurateVandalvideo

By that logic a game can be the  same with marginally less graphics and still be the same. Sure it would be less graphically impressive but that wouldn't mean it would be UNIVERSALLY LESS FUN, right? lol.

(I think I need to stop defending consoles for a bit haha) 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"] It would be less accurateBlackbond

By that logic a game can be the  same with marginally less graphics and still be the same. Sure it would be less graphically impressive but that wouldn't mean it would be UNIVERSALLY LESS FUN, right? lol.

(I think I need to stop defending consoles for a bit haha) 

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"] It would be less accurateVandalvideo

By that logic a game can be the  same with marginally less graphics and still be the same. Sure it would be less graphically impressive but that wouldn't mean it would be UNIVERSALLY LESS FUN, right? lol.

(I think I need to stop defending consoles for a bit haha) 

try to learn more than 2 words for arguing pup -- Subjective, and Objective will never get you anywhere. but hell man, i've been watching you for over a year now, you are not going anywhere.

guys, please report Vandal and leave the thread - this is obvious flambait, and he totally admitted it even if he didn't mean to.3picuri3

I have more fun failing miserablly while I play games. It gives me more incentive to keep playing and adds tons of replayability. Are you going to sit here and tell me my whole existance is a lie? The point is, you can't prove something like "it would be less fun".

I'm sigging this.

[QUOTE="cjdaweasel"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="cjdaweasel"]

I've been worried that since companies love to copy each other, that if the Wii gains a significant market share, the next round of consoles will be following suit. If the main goal of console developers becomes price point and not hardware power, it could lead to not-that-much-more-powerful-but-cheap round of consoles next gen.

I'd hate to think that we're going to be missing out on better graphics and smarter AI in the next round just because eveyone wants to mimic Nintendo's success.

Blackbond

Well you know Sony and Nintendo could come up with their own innovative ideas like Nintendo to make their new systems a run away success. They don't HAVE TO COPY :roll:

That's not the point though. If something is a commercial success, then it will be copied. That's why we have fifteen thousand reality TV shows, more ipod look-alikes than a Chineese street market, and why the PS3 has a built in HD.

If it works, its going to be copied. Companies will go where the money is.

So why did Nintendo create the Wii instead of copying the PS2? 

Now that extremism. I'm not saying that all companies will always copy each other every time. I'm saying that in general, companies will copy what will give them the greatest returns.

If the Wii is a screaming success, then I can see MS and Sony copying their business model. And that, is where the issue lies.