What does the PS3 have that the 360 doesnt?

[QUOTE="shawn7324"][QUOTE="Trinners"]

I wasn't aware the 360 has better looking games than KZ2 :lol:

Trinners

overall doesn't mean anything if one game looks better than all of them

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

for one, u fail cause its almost april.

for another, if you count PS3 multiplats like MLB the show, then every 360/PC game can be used for 360s argument. Trust me, there are tons of those this year.

-M117-

yes it's almost april with no 360 game in sight.

actually april and may have Velvet Assassin, Battlestations Pacific, Dungeon Hero, and Ninja Blade.

All games on 360 and NOT on PS3.

we don't count PC/360 games it's a SW law that's why MLB09 the show doesn't count exclusive. I don't see a AAA title in sight, only mediocre games.

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

yes it's almost april with no 360 game in sight.

Trinners

actually april and may have Velvet Assassin, Battlestations Pacific, Dungeon Hero, and Ninja Blade.

All games on 360 and NOT on PS3.

we don't count PC/360 games it's a SW law that's why MLB09 the show doesn't count exclusive. I don't see a AAA title in sight, only mediocre games.

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="shawn7324"] I think he meant overall.shawn7324

overall doesn't mean anything if one game looks better than all of them

But those many games don't look better.

Ok..This is my observation.The Ps3 should have a price drop for one,because the 360 is just as almost the same except for the blu ray player..Which doesnt even make much difference.. So why are people still buying $399 Ps3's when you can get $299 or $199 360. >.>...Just wondering :).

Foxi911

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

yes it's almost april with no 360 game in sight.

Trinners

actually april and may have Velvet Assassin, Battlestations Pacific, Dungeon Hero, and Ninja Blade.

All games on 360 and NOT on PS3.

we don't count PC/360 games it's a SW law that's why MLB09 the show doesn't count exclusive. I don't see a AAA title in sight, only mediocre games.

who said comparing exclusives?

im talking about comparing the 360 to PS3 library on the whole, exclusive or not.

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

actually april and may have Velvet Assassin, Battlestations Pacific, Dungeon Hero, and Ninja Blade.

All games on 360 and NOT on PS3.

-M117-

we don't count PC/360 games it's a SW law that's why MLB09 the show doesn't count exclusive. I don't see a AAA title in sight, only mediocre games.

who said comparing exclusives?

im talking about comparing the 360 to PS3 library on the whole, exclusive or not.

why are you bringing up the 360 library and the PS3 library? The original argument is the games for the current year which the 360 is failing at.

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

we don't count PC/360 games it's a SW law that's why MLB09 the show doesn't count exclusive. I don't see a AAA title in sight, only mediocre games.

Trinners

who said comparing exclusives?

im talking about comparing the 360 to PS3 library on the whole, exclusive or not.

why are you bringing up the 360 library and the PS3 library? The original argument is the games for the current year which the 360 is failing at.

thats what im saying, i am comparing 360 09 games vs PS3 09 games, exclusive or not.

PS3 will have The agency (PS3/PC) and MLB (PS3/PS2) and 360 will have various 360/PC games. I include them because just comparing exclusives is very closed minded.

[QUOTE="shawn7324"][QUOTE="Trinners"]

overall doesn't mean anything if one game looks better than all of them

Trinners

But those many games don't look better.

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

who said comparing exclusives?

im talking about comparing the 360 to PS3 library on the whole, exclusive or not.

-M117-

why are you bringing up the 360 library and the PS3 library? The original argument is the games for the current year which the 360 is failing at.

thats what im saying, i am comparing 360 09 games vs PS3 09 games, exclusive or not.

PS3 will have The agency (PS3/PC) and MLB (PS3/PS2) and 360 will have various 360/PC games. I include them because just comparing exclusives is very closed minded.

I understand that if your remotely into Baseball having MLB exclusive is a major positive. I don't believe for whatever reason other fanboys say that this shouldn't be counted toward the PS3. The way I see it the War is & always has been between PS3 & Xbox 360, therefore MLB is fully a PS3 exclusive. But thats just the way I see it.

How can you justify making the statement of comparing the PS3 & Xbox 360 library when there are games that are within each system's library & not in the other??? You are clearly comparing just those 2 so therefore a different system's library doesn't matter and/or doesn't exist within your set boundaries of the discussion.

Motion sensive controls just like the Wii, internet browser.

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

who said comparing exclusives?

im talking about comparing the 360 to PS3 library on the whole, exclusive or not.

-M117-

why are you bringing up the 360 library and the PS3 library? The original argument is the games for the current year which the 360 is failing at.

thats what im saying, i am comparing 360 09 games vs PS3 09 games, exclusive or not.

PS3 will have The agency (PS3/PC) and MLB (PS3/PS2) and 360 will have various 360/PC games. I include them because just comparing exclusives is very closed minded.

Since we're comparing PS3/PC vs 360/PC games in 2009 then the 360 side is lacking seriously. All hope rests on E3. But what if that turns out to be a disappointment?

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

why are you bringing up the 360 library and the PS3 library? The original argument is the games for the current year which the 360 is failing at.

Trinners

thats what im saying, i am comparing 360 09 games vs PS3 09 games, exclusive or not.

PS3 will have The agency (PS3/PC) and MLB (PS3/PS2) and 360 will have various 360/PC games. I include them because just comparing exclusives is very closed minded.

Since we're comparing PS3/PC vs 360/PC games in 2009 then the 360 side is lacking seriously. All hope rests on E3. But what if that turns out to be a disappointment?

we shall see, though I do knwo the 360 has quite the 360/PC library in 09. I just hope they get at least an "A".

As for E3, MS confirmed they want to "break the bank". I could even be so bold as to say MS held any GDC announcements so they could throw it all in E3 with the rest of their announcements.

I've looked over all the posts & only find 1 really smack in the face of Microsoft point. That clearly being RELIABILITY. I'm an Xbox 360 owner & I completely 100% AGREE.

1. Bluray(which no games use to its fullest or need)
2. Wifi (Gives possible free internet play lol) (wow talk about illegal)
3. Upgradeable hdd (any 2.5" sata 5400rpm laptop hdd) (which most users wont use)
4. Optical audio built onto the motherboard (No need for a special adaptor like the 360 to use hdmi and optical audio) (comes with elite, on ps3 you get nothing but composite cables)
5. Uncompressed Audio, DTShd audio, DolbyHD audio (of which only 1% of the surround sound owning population can use uncompressed, Xbox 360 supports DTS HD and Dolby HD and next to no games use DTS HD or Dolby HD)
6. Internet Browser ( of which no one uses)
7. Mouse & Keyboard support (of which no real games support)
8. Customizable desktop, build your own themes (oif which means nothing to most users)
9. User created maps and levels (LBP and UTIII) (of which 99% are crap)
10. Rechargeable Controllers (360 has this just not out o fthe box)
11. Bluetooth support (mics, keyboards) (good for you and still to this day less then 30% or so of ps3 owners have mics and hardly any use keyboards)
12. Supports 3rd party pc steering wheels (Logitech Momo, G25 steering wheels) (so does 360)
13. Supports external storage devices (to make a backup or of your saves and files) (so does 360)
14. Reliable
15. Folding at Home (of which less then 20% of ps3 owners use and it still hasn't cured cancer)
16. Free Online Gaming and good looks ftw(xbox live is better not every thing free is good, and good looks? yeah sorry the ps3 is down right ugly it collects dust badly and its bigger then the original xbox)

WilliamRLBaker

Red = made up %'s and just plain rediculous. Please just stop, your zippers down and your fanboy is showing. I was going to make you look foolish, but you have already done that for yourself, good job!

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]worth an extra 200 pound?yoyo462001

Hrmm... $200 for online play, Browser, Blu-ray player, HDD, Wi-Fi, Blue Tooth, Rechargeable controller.... I'd say yes.

How many "pounds" will it cost to have 3-4 years of XBLG again?

Blu ray, internet browser, not having to purchase batteries for the controller, PSN is free, wifi, upgradeable hard drive, mgs4, killzone 2, lbp, socom, heavy rain, uncharted 1 and 2, infamous, Ninja gaiden sigma 2, GOWIII, flower. The ability to download videos of the internet and watch them on you're ps3, the ability to store your photo's off of your digital camera. I mean the list goes on bro I can keep going all day with this.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

1. Bluray(which no games use to its fullest or need)
2. Wifi (Gives possible free internet play lol) (wow talk about illegal)
3. Upgradeable hdd (any 2.5" sata 5400rpm laptop hdd) (which most users wont use)
4. Optical audio built onto the motherboard (No need for a special adaptor like the 360 to use hdmi and optical audio) (comes with elite, on ps3 you get nothing but composite cables)
5. Uncompressed Audio, DTShd audio, DolbyHD audio (of which only 1% of the surround sound owning population can use uncompressed, Xbox 360 supports DTS HD and Dolby HD and next to no games use DTS HD or Dolby HD)
6. Internet Browser ( of which no one uses)
7. Mouse & Keyboard support (of which no real games support)
8. Customizable desktop, build your own themes (oif which means nothing to most users)
9. User created maps and levels (LBP and UTIII) (of which 99% are crap)
10. Rechargeable Controllers (360 has this just not out o fthe box)
11. Bluetooth support (mics, keyboards) (good for you and still to this day less then 30% or so of ps3 owners have mics and hardly any use keyboards)
12. Supports 3rd party pc steering wheels (Logitech Momo, G25 steering wheels) (so does 360)
13. Supports external storage devices (to make a backup or of your saves and files) (so does 360)
14. Reliable
15. Folding at Home (of which less then 20% of ps3 owners use and it still hasn't cured cancer)
16. Free Online Gaming and good looks ftw(xbox live is better not every thing free is good, and good looks? yeah sorry the ps3 is down right ugly it collects dust badly and its bigger then the original xbox)

BoD_GOA_French

Red = made up %'s and just plain rediculous. Please just stop, your zippers down and your fanboy is showing. I was going to make you look foolish, but you have already done that for yourself, good job!

Yeah... but I don't think the 360 has any of that so...

What are you trying to do?

[QUOTE="BoD_GOA_French"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

1. Bluray(which no games use to its fullest or need)
2. Wifi (Gives possible free internet play lol) (wow talk about illegal)
3. Upgradeable hdd (any 2.5" sata 5400rpm laptop hdd) (which most users wont use)
4. Optical audio built onto the motherboard (No need for a special adaptor like the 360 to use hdmi and optical audio) (comes with elite, on ps3 you get nothing but composite cables)
5. Uncompressed Audio, DTShd audio, DolbyHD audio (of which only 1% of the surround sound owning population can use uncompressed, Xbox 360 supports DTS HD and Dolby HD and next to no games use DTS HD or Dolby HD)
6. Internet Browser ( of which no one uses)
7. Mouse & Keyboard support (of which no real games support)
8. Customizable desktop, build your own themes (oif which means nothing to most users)
9. User created maps and levels (LBP and UTIII) (of which 99% are crap)
10. Rechargeable Controllers (360 has this just not out o fthe box)
11. Bluetooth support (mics, keyboards) (good for you and still to this day less then 30% or so of ps3 owners have mics and hardly any use keyboards)
12. Supports 3rd party pc steering wheels (Logitech Momo, G25 steering wheels) (so does 360)
13. Supports external storage devices (to make a backup or of your saves and files) (so does 360)
14. Reliable
15. Folding at Home (of which less then 20% of ps3 owners use and it still hasn't cured cancer)
16. Free Online Gaming and good looks ftw(xbox live is better not every thing free is good, and good looks? yeah sorry the ps3 is down right ugly it collects dust badly and its bigger then the original xbox)

Silverbond

Red = made up %'s and just plain rediculous. Please just stop, your zippers down and your fanboy is showing. I was going to make you look foolish, but you have already done that for yourself, good job!

Yeah... but I don't think the 360 has any of that so...

What are you trying to do?

I didn't write the stuff in red, I just quoted it and changed it to red. The guy quoted someone else and put the stuff in red next to the other guys post.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="BoD_GOA_French"]

Red = made up %'s and just plain rediculous. Please just stop, your zippers down and your fanboy is showing. I was going to make you look foolish, but you have already done that for yourself, good job!

BoD_GOA_French

Yeah... but I don't think the 360 has any of that so...

What are you trying to do?

I didn't write the stuff in red, I just quoted it and changed it to red. The guy quoted someone else and put the stuff in red next to the other guys post.

Oh... that makes sense. :P

Okay, ur saying there is no need to upgrade ur hdd. ur sig says that you have a 500gb hdd on ur ps3? MGS4 used all 50gb's the blu ray disc. Oh and I use the ps3's web browser cuz its convenient, that way I don't have to go down stairs and use my pc.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

1. Bluray(which no games use to its fullest or need)
2. Wifi (Gives possible free internet play lol) (wow talk about illegal)
3. Upgradeable hdd (any 2.5" sata 5400rpm laptop hdd) (which most users wont use)
4. Optical audio built onto the motherboard (No need for a special adaptor like the 360 to use hdmi and optical audio) (comes with elite, on ps3 you get nothing but composite cables)
5. Uncompressed Audio, DTShd audio, DolbyHD audio (of which only 1% of the surround sound owning population can use uncompressed, Xbox 360 supports DTS HD and Dolby HD and next to no games use DTS HD or Dolby HD)
6. Internet Browser ( of which no one uses)
7. Mouse & Keyboard support (of which no real games support)
8. Customizable desktop, build your own themes (oif which means nothing to most users)
9. User created maps and levels (LBP and UTIII) (of which 99% are crap)
10. Rechargeable Controllers (360 has this just not out o fthe box)
11. Bluetooth support (mics, keyboards) (good for you and still to this day less then 30% or so of ps3 owners have mics and hardly any use keyboards)
12. Supports 3rd party pc steering wheels (Logitech Momo, G25 steering wheels) (so does 360)
13. Supports external storage devices (to make a backup or of your saves and files) (so does 360)
14. Reliable
15. Folding at Home (of which less then 20% of ps3 owners use and it still hasn't cured cancer)
16. Free Online Gaming and good looks ftw(xbox live is better not every thing free is good, and good looks? yeah sorry the ps3 is down right ugly it collects dust badly and its bigger then the original xbox)

BoD_GOA_French

Red = made up %'s and just plain rediculous. Please just stop, your zippers down and your fanboy is showing. I was going to make you look foolish, but you have already done that for yourself, good job!

Okay, ur saying there is no need to upgrade ur hdd. ur sig says that you have a 500gb hdd on ur ps3? MGS4 used all 50gb's the blu ray disc. Oh and I use the ps3's web browser cuz its convenient, that way I don't have to go down stairs and use my pc. [QUOTE="BoD_GOA_French"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

1. Bluray(which no games use to its fullest or need)
2. Wifi (Gives possible free internet play lol) (wow talk about illegal)
3. Upgradeable hdd (any 2.5" sata 5400rpm laptop hdd) (which most users wont use)
4. Optical audio built onto the motherboard (No need for a special adaptor like the 360 to use hdmi and optical audio) (comes with elite, on ps3 you get nothing but composite cables)
5. Uncompressed Audio, DTShd audio, DolbyHD audio (of which only 1% of the surround sound owning population can use uncompressed, Xbox 360 supports DTS HD and Dolby HD and next to no games use DTS HD or Dolby HD)
6. Internet Browser ( of which no one uses)
7. Mouse & Keyboard support (of which no real games support)
8. Customizable desktop, build your own themes (oif which means nothing to most users)
9. User created maps and levels (LBP and UTIII) (of which 99% are crap)
10. Rechargeable Controllers (360 has this just not out o fthe box)
11. Bluetooth support (mics, keyboards) (good for you and still to this day less then 30% or so of ps3 owners have mics and hardly any use keyboards)
12. Supports 3rd party pc steering wheels (Logitech Momo, G25 steering wheels) (so does 360)
13. Supports external storage devices (to make a backup or of your saves and files) (so does 360)
14. Reliable
15. Folding at Home (of which less then 20% of ps3 owners use and it still hasn't cured cancer)
16. Free Online Gaming and good looks ftw(xbox live is better not every thing free is good, and good looks? yeah sorry the ps3 is down right ugly it collects dust badly and its bigger then the original xbox)

redskins2156

Red = made up %'s and just plain rediculous. Please just stop, your zippers down and your fanboy is showing. I was going to make you look foolish, but you have already done that for yourself, good job!

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

who said comparing exclusives?

im talking about comparing the 360 to PS3 library on the whole, exclusive or not.

-M117-

why are you bringing up the 360 library and the PS3 library? The original argument is the games for the current year which the 360 is failing at.

thats what im saying, i am comparing 360 09 games vs PS3 09 games, exclusive or not.

PS3 will have The agency (PS3/PC) and MLB (PS3/PS2) and 360 will have various 360/PC games. I include them because just comparing exclusives is very closed minded.

Blu ray, a HDD as standard and built in wifi.

remote play, pslife, pshome, internet browser (good for youtube and flash games in living room or basement), divix support, bluray support with latest profile supported unlike most other bluray players, bdlive support, ability to install other os which leads into another function of streaming pc games to ps3 (like onlive but you have to run your own server being your normal gaming computer).

[QUOTE="redskins2156"]

Okay, ur saying there is no need to upgrade ur hdd. ur sig says that you have a 500gb hdd on ur ps3? MGS4 used all 50gb's the blu ray disc. Oh and I use the ps3's web browser cuz its convenient, that way I don't have to go down stairs and use my pc. [QUOTE="BoD_GOA_French"]

Red = made up %'s and just plain rediculous. Please just stop, your zippers down and your fanboy is showing. I was going to make you look foolish, but you have already done that for yourself, good job!

shawn7324

Teh cell?

DanteSuikoden

Which doesn't melt your console, a problem the 360 suffers from(or did) hehe

good games, not overhyped rehashes.

Ok..This is My observation.The Ps3 should have a price drop for one, because the 360 is inferior; because the PS3 has a blu-ray player, Great exclusives, sexy shiny black console, etc ... Which Does even make a difference.. So why are people still buying trashy Xbox 360's when you can get a beautiful Playstation 3? ... Just wondering. :)

jakehouston88

Ok..This is my observation.The Ps3 should have a price drop for one,because the 360 is just as almost the same except for the blu ray player..Which doesnt even make much difference.. So why are people still buying $399 Ps3's when you can get $299 or $199 360. >.>...Just wondering :).

Foxi911

Think about the 120.000.000 PS2 users, and there is the easy and obvious answer

[QUOTE="shawn7324"]

[QUOTE="redskins2156"]

Tyrant156

360 is cheaper but many refuse to buy it.
Why?
RROD.

Uvavooh

[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="Foxi911"]

Ok..This is my observation.The Ps3 should have a price drop for one,because the 360 is just as almost the same except for the blu ray player..Which doesnt even make much difference.. So why are people still buying $399 Ps3's when you can get $299 or $199 360. >.>...Just wondering :).

shawn7324

[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="Foxi911"]

Ok..This is my observation.The Ps3 should have a price drop for one,because the 360 is just as almost the same except for the blu ray player..Which doesnt even make much difference.. So why are people still buying $399 Ps3's when you can get $299 or $199 360. >.>...Just wondering :).

shawn7324

better exclusives IMO. and with bluray players being about $200, i thinkits a pretty good deal

[QUOTE="Tyrant156"][QUOTE="shawn7324"] Convenient for you not for all, I keep my laptop right here beside me & would much rather use it than any console browser. Even some may rather use their PC which might be closer by, but not all are that way or like myself so no argument can say the browser isn't a valid point in the positive.

shawn7324

Quiet running ? i guess, one of the things i like about ps3 is it being super quiet, cant even tell its on

Ok..This is my observation.The Ps3 should have a price drop for one,because the 360 is just as almost the same except for the blu ray player..Which doesnt even make much difference.. So why are people still buying $399 Ps3's when you can get $299 or $199 360. >.>...Just wondering :).

Foxi911

[QUOTE="redskins2156"]

Okay, ur saying there is no need to upgrade ur hdd. ur sig says that you have a 500gb hdd on ur ps3? MGS4 used all 50gb's the blu ray disc. Oh and I use the ps3's web browser cuz its convenient, that way I don't have to go down stairs and use my pc. [QUOTE="BoD_GOA_French"]

Red = made up %'s and just plain rediculous. Please just stop, your zippers down and your fanboy is showing. I was going to make you look foolish, but you have already done that for yourself, good job!

[QUOTE="redskins2156"]

Okay, ur saying there is no need to upgrade ur hdd. ur sig says that you have a 500gb hdd on ur ps3? MGS4 used all 50gb's the blu ray disc. Oh and I use the ps3's web browser cuz its convenient, that way I don't have to go down stairs and use my pc. [QUOTE="BoD_GOA_French"]

Red = made up %'s and just plain rediculous. Please just stop, your zippers down and your fanboy is showing. I was going to make you look foolish, but you have already done that for yourself, good job!

shawn7324

So OP asked what the ps3 has over the 360 and then you try to discount the fact that the ps3 has FREE options that a user can take advantage of? Dude quite being so insecure lol.

Also I looked up about the 360 being able to use Logitech PC Momo steering wheels and couldn't find anything except for some SPECIAL made wheels just for the 360. So please post a link saying that the 360 can use PC steering wheels for its racing games please, or other wise I'm discounting the fact that you tried to dismiss that feature of the ps3 over the 360 :)

Have a great day!!

P.S. I used to race online on the PC with a Momo, so not having to go out and buy a special one for the ps3 was a definite plus :)

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="shawn7324"] Hey if your OK with 1 game looking better that's cool, however it would make more sense to want many.shawn7324

But those many games don't look better.

what are the games that look better on xbox when u said xbox has better looking games? and the whole multiplat argument that xbox's version looks better might have worked before but recently they're identical with slight/miniscule differences only people that were really, really looking for could find.

[QUOTE="shawn7324"][QUOTE="Trinners"]

But those many games don't look better.

ahwang826

what are the games that look better on xbox when u said xbox has better looking games? and the whole multiplat argument that xbox's version looks better might have worked before but recently they're identical with slight/miniscule differences only people that were really, really looking for could find.

The title of this topic should be: what does not the PS3 have that 360 does? I guess the guys have given you enough info already but there are two major reasons in my opinion why PS3 has a smaller fan base compared to 360 which are: 1- Price 2- late release which enabled the 360 to make a strong fan base since it was the first HD console (yeah console, not system since PC is...) available on the market. Otherwise PS3 has almost everything 360 has but some 360 exclusives that ARE NOT on PC since that would make them not exclusives in my opinion.

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

actually april and may have Velvet Assassin, Battlestations Pacific, Dungeon Hero, and Ninja Blade.

All games on 360 and NOT on PS3.

shawn7324

we don't count PC/360 games it's a SW law that's why MLB09 the show doesn't count exclusive. I don't see a AAA title in sight, only mediocre games.

[QUOTE="shawn7324"][QUOTE="Tyrant156"] The browser can be used in more ways than surfing the web, I use my PC to look up information, download media and browser web pages. But I use my PS3 browser to watch streams like Hulu and youtube because my PS3 is hooked up to a larger screen then my PC. Also the web browser allows you to use file sharing programs like red kawa, orb and TVersity so you can transfer files from your PC to your PS3. And on top of that games are going to have the options of accessing the browser inside of the games, in GTA4 you accessed a fake web at internet cafes but soon it will be able to be done from the PS3 browser.Tyrant156