what ever happened to healthbars in fps

I love Halo CE's shield and health bar system. It made sense and gave you a chance in multiplayer. In CS, there are so many times you come across P90 sprayers who manage to down your armour and get you horribly, horribly injured before the real shootouts even begin. Then a quick pistol burst just takes you out of the fight.

In Halo, you could take on a bunch of guys, fight your way out of it (with some well placed shots and a couple of grenades) and still be ready to win another fight afterwards, assuming you don't get blindsided by the other guy. Excluding plasma pistol + BR from Halo 2 and 3, you had to find the right weapon combo in order to down a shield, then shred through the healthbar underneath. Plasma rifles were great in Halo: CE because they downed the shield fast and had a slowing effect, but the rate of fire makes it crap to take in a large battle. You needed something like an assault rifle or shotgun to finish it.

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Are you implying a 7.0 scoring game is worth playing in the face of so many AAA and AA shooters?

shakmaster13

Console FPS are always inferior to the majority of PC fps. Even the multiplats. His point still stands, although I wouldn't base an argument on a GS score alon since I personally would have given MGS4 a 6.0 at best.

Before I played halo on xbox. I played unreal tournament, counterstrike, soldier of fortune, half life, operation flashpoint and a whole lot of other awesome games, which I still love to date. However I find them all inferior to halo CE, that's right. single player no contest, the story (though half life came close) was subtle but brilliant, the halo universe was rich, the soundtrack was godly, the controls were some of the best for a console fps and it set a standard, the AI was unlike any I had seen, the vehicles worked and weren't just tacked on, the physics were absurd, the force feedback from firing your assault rifle was exhilirating, the graphics where some of the best at the time (bump mapping was an awesome new graphical trick), the voice acting was good and Halo itself was an awesome vista to behold.

Multiplayer wa superior as well. I was a counterstrike junkie, that changed after playing halo. Vehicles worked so well in multiplayer, warthogs + blood gulch = teh win. So what if I couldn't play online, I had some of the best fun with friends while playing halo with LAN.

Halo was made for console gaming too bad pc gamers dismiss it by judging a couple of years old port that shouldn't have been made.

Ah, how PC elitist hold onto this so dearly. People like to complain how all they talk about is Crysis > every console game interms of graphics but really, all they ever say is "LULZ BEST XBOX SHOOTER HALO 2 GOT A 7 ON THE PC!"

ThePistolGod

when has ANYBODY ever said this? seriously

I don't mind having to get medpacks or have health regen. In crysis, having to find health packs would make the game way too hard, since each level is pretty big.

I also don't know why Brothers In Arms: Hells Highway has health regen, but it works well and it jeeps the game fun and challenging (you can't just run and gun groups of enemies without getting killed anyway)

As long as health regen is done well and keeps the game fun AND challenging, then I have no problem with it.

Regeneration, up to FULL health, without any consequence is an inherently detrimental aspect of any shooter. It removes any sort of challenge there might be in the game. Without a limiting of a player's resources, there is no cause for concern.

And to counter your whining about head-shots... shoot your enemy before they shoot you, or don't stick out your head where it can get shot.

foxhound_fox

1. Yeah, maybe if you're playing ranked matches with low level people. Regenerating health isn't even that big of a deal. The only game I can think of that has a bad regenerating health system is Gears of War. There is a cause for concern at a high level in games with regenerating health. Let's say your playing Halo (weapon starts is BR, 4 shots to the head) and you guys have a setup, however the kid you described that has no cause for concern pops his head out to try and get a kill, he is now no shields. Guess what? He dies by a perfectly thrown grenade (or two)and the setupwill usually get brokenthen and now the other team has map control/power weapon control etc. That could turn the game around and your team lost because you had no concern.

2. I don't need to whine about headshots. Unlike you, I play both and I enjoy both and I'm great at both. However I know both have their pros and cons. Unless you're completely closed-minded you know that the health system isn't completely perfect.

PS: I prefer a health system myself. I'm just not ignorant.

Noobs happened.

2. I don't need to whine about headshots. Unlike you, I play both and I enjoy both and I'm great at both. However I know both have their pros and cons. Unless you're completely closed-minded you know that the health system isn't completely perfect.

PS: I prefer a health system myself. I'm just not ignorant.

ThePistolGod

halo 2 killed it... and for the better looking for health packs is annoying.

Norule04

it was halos fault then call of duty 2 had it

it was halos fault then call of duty 2 had it

kemar7856

Socom has it. oops third person nevermind.

Uhhhh....i dont know nowadays its "x" amount of bullets will kill you. Also health regeneration is the hip feature in FPS's lately

hell, even some RPGs have health regen, like The Witcher, but it makes sense and normally regenerates very slowly

They are used in class based games with health systems. Though ArmA 2 and Americas Army 3 found ways of doing realistic healing without healthbars. Well more realistic healing, take a bullet in the leg I doubt you would beable to run again on that for quite some time.

Silly games without their health bars these days. Where's the fun in that?KHAndAnime

Halo killed it, and with halo odst lol looks like they are bringing it back

While healthbars and packs are sometimes preferable, regenerating health is just as often a good thing IMO.

I can't imagine playing Crysis and having to search for health.

KZ2 uses a health bar, but silly cod4 players don't realise this and get mad toward the game. Especially when ina fire fight, and they say man I was filling that guy up with lead and he just gets some lucky shot off lol. Not realising their health was already down to nothing from shots from another guy lol. Newbs get mad at Socom for the same reasons.

Health bars ftw :)

Halo 3 ODST doesn't have regenerating health so...Stevo_the_gamer

KZ2 has health bar...

Halo 2. Then, CoD2 went along with it as well, and the snowball went downhill from there.