What excuse will cows and sheep make when Halo 3 sells 6 million copies?

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]You said PS fan so has a Sony fan I think it going to be a while before we see anything that will sell more than 3 million copies. So yes I think Halo will outsell anything on the PS for some time to come. Has a Nintendo fan you point out that GOW has a 40% attachment rate well I will point out that Zelda has a 50% attachment rate and that without doing well in Japan. I think we are going to see Mario and SSBB out sell almost any game this year. Even thought the Sony fan hopes we may see MGS this year and that be the number 1 seller this year but I think we are not going to see that game untill next year.

REVENGEotSITH

Zelda has done incredible when it comes to sales per console sold.  What will be the next Wii title that comes close to what Zelda has done? 

I would say Mario or SSBB. Has much has I would like to say MP:3 I know it will not sell has well has Zelda.

The previous 2 Halo games each sold over 6 million copies. One can fully expect Halo 3 to reach this level (or beyond), given that Gears has sold over 4 million copies. At that point, you will probably be talking about a 50% attach rate. Despite these numbers, Cows and Sheep will still find ways to put down the game.

Name ONE game on the PS3 that will even come close to approaching these numbers - please! MGS4? :lol: The previous games didn't do this, what makes you think #4 will? Killflop 2? :lol: Lair? Heavenly Sword? None of these games will even come close to sniffing the level of success that Halo 3 will have - both in sales, hype, and impact on system sales.

REVENGEotSITH

Halo 3 will sell like water at a rave, regardless of how good it is. That said, the Halo series is a great series of games. The reason it is attacked is because it doesn't really bring anything new to the table, it just refines whats good about other shooters. There's nothing wrong with this, but its one of the few points Halo can be attacked for.

Now, not sure why you felt the need to bait people with the PS3 games comment, but I'll bite. GTA would have certainly done it if it was still an exclusive. MGS4 and FF13 both have a pretty good shot at it, but I don't know if they have the mass appeal, or if they will have the install base (almost certainly not), that 360 and Halo have.

P.S. Stop being a fanboy. It's gross. 

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

attach rates are how money is made....;)

mmirza23

Thank you.  Too many people in these forums focus strictly on console sales and don't see the bigger picture.  If a console sells over 20 million units, but only sells 2 games per unit - how great is that?

Cows don't dare discuess attach rates because the PS3's rate is pathetic compared to the x360's.

No.

The x360's attach rate was higher than the PS3's rate at this point in its life.

[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

attach rates are how money is made....;)

LosDaddie

Thank you.  Too many people in these forums focus strictly on console sales and don't see the bigger picture.  If a console sells over 20 million units, but only sells 2 games per unit - how great is that?

Cows don't dare discuess attach rates because the PS3's rate is pathetic compared to the x360's.

No.

The x360's attach rate was higher than the PS3's rate at this point in its life.

that's because the 360 feeds upon dvds, people have to re-buy the game. And wadda ya' know you got yer' self a high attach rate :P (sorry I couldn't resist)

[QUOTE="tango90101"]attach rates are how money is made....;)Hoffgod

Say console A sells 5 million units and console B sells 200 million units. Company X puts game Y out for both systems. Both versions are priced equally and cost the same to make. It sells 1 million copies on each console.
The attach rate for console A is 20%. The attach rate for console B is 0.5%. Does this mean Company X suddenly made more money off of console A because the attach rate is higher?

Answer: No. 

The two go hand-in-hand.  I've never said to look at the attach rate only - it just needs to be included in each and every console sales discussion in these threads.  To say that the PS3 is selling at the same clip as the 360 is only half the argument.  At the same point in time, the 360 had 3 games sell 1 million copies (COD2, GRAW, Oblivion) versus the PS3 only one (Resistence).  This is a HUGE difference.

The previous 2 Halo games each sold over 6 million copies.  One can fully expect Halo 3 to reach this level (or beyond), given that Gears has sold over 4 million copies.  At that point, you will probably be talking about a 50% attach rate.  Despite these numbers, Cows and Sheep will still find ways to put down the game. 

Name ONE game on the PS3 that will even come close to approaching these numbers - please!  MGS4?  :lol:  The previous games didn't do this, what makes you think #4 will?  Killflop 2?  :lol:  Lair?  Heavenly Sword?  None of these games will even come close to sniffing the level of success that Halo 3 will have - both in sales, hype, and impact on system sales.

REVENGEotSITH

[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="Super-Mario-Fan"]Super Smash Bros. Brawl has a very good chance of outselling Halo 3, especially if the Wii's sales overlap the 360's.STABW0UND

LOL yeah right. SSBB will sell but if you think its going to outsell halo 3 your insane. 

[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

attach rates are how money is made....;)

LosDaddie

Thank you.  Too many people in these forums focus strictly on console sales and don't see the bigger picture.  If a console sells over 20 million units, but only sells 2 games per unit - how great is that?

Cows don't dare discuess attach rates because the PS3's rate is pathetic compared to the x360's.

No.

The x360's attach rate was higher than the PS3's rate at this point in its life.

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

The previous 2 Halo games each sold over 6 million copies.  One can fully expect Halo 3 to reach this level (or beyond), given that Gears has sold over 4 million copies.  At that point, you will probably be talking about a 50% attach rate.  Despite these numbers, Cows and Sheep will still find ways to put down the game. 

Name ONE game on the PS3 that will even come close to approaching these numbers - please!  MGS4?  :lol:  The previous games didn't do this, what makes you think #4 will?  Killflop 2?  :lol:  Lair?  Heavenly Sword?  None of these games will even come close to sniffing the level of success that Halo 3 will have - both in sales, hype, and impact on system sales.

JayPee89

[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

The previous 2 Halo games each sold over 6 million copies.  One can fully expect Halo 3 to reach this level (or beyond), given that Gears has sold over 4 million copies.  At that point, you will probably be talking about a 50% attach rate.  Despite these numbers, Cows and Sheep will still find ways to put down the game. 

Name ONE game on the PS3 that will even come close to approaching these numbers - please!  MGS4?  :lol:  The previous games didn't do this, what makes you think #4 will?  Killflop 2?  :lol:  Lair?  Heavenly Sword?  None of these games will even come close to sniffing the level of success that Halo 3 will have - both in sales, hype, and impact on system sales.

mmirza23

42.Zhengi

huh? 

Huh?  Why would people who don't want a game for any reason, feel the need to make excuses for it selling so well?  that makes absolutely no sense and I feel dumber for having even read this thread.Rosencrantz

Well, maybe "excuse" was the wrong word to use in the title.  No matter what its score here at GS, no matter how many millions of copies it sells, no matter how many games are played over Xbox Live, the haters will STILL come up with some reason as to why Halo 3 sux, its overhyped, etc. 

The bottom line is: you can hype up Lair, HS, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Killzone 2, etc. and none of these will have the impact that Halo 3 will have. 

and im saying it wont just because the game is multiplatform and anyone wanting to play it that bad would just get the $200 cheaper system.mmirza23

That, and if it sells well on the PS3, it will also sell well on the 360, so that's a wash.

6 million is good.

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"]

[QUOTE="tango90101"]attach rates are how money is made....;)REVENGEotSITH

Say console A sells 5 million units and console B sells 200 million units. Company X puts game Y out for both systems. Both versions are priced equally and cost the same to make. It sells 1 million copies on each console.
The attach rate for console A is 20%. The attach rate for console B is 0.5%. Does this mean Company X suddenly made more money off of console A because the attach rate is higher?

Answer: No. 

The two go hand-in-hand.  I've never said to look at the attach rate only - it just needs to be included in each and every console sales discussion in these threads.  To say that the PS3 is selling at the same clip as the 360 is only half the argument.  At the same point in time, the 360 had 3 games sell 1 million copies (COD2, GRAW, Oblivion) versus the PS3 only one (Resistence).  This is a HUGE difference.

Yeah, those kinds of attach rates are very important. Just look at the PSP. 

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

attach rates are how money is made....;)

mmirza23

Thank you.  Too many people in these forums focus strictly on console sales and don't see the bigger picture.  If a console sells over 20 million units, but only sells 2 games per unit - how great is that?

Cows don't dare discuess attach rates because the PS3's rate is pathetic compared to the x360's.

[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

The previous 2 Halo games each sold over 6 million copies. One can fully expect Halo 3 to reach this level (or beyond), given that Gears has sold over 4 million copies. At that point, you will probably be talking about a 50% attach rate. Despite these numbers, Cows and Sheep will still find ways to put down the game.

Name ONE game on the PS3 that will even come close to approaching these numbers - please! MGS4? :lol: The previous games didn't do this, what makes you think #4 will? Killflop 2? :lol: Lair? Heavenly Sword? None of these games will even come close to sniffing the level of success that Halo 3 will have - both in sales, hype, and impact on system sales.

mmirza23

I'm sure Sith is discussing sales of exclusives. And again I can feel where this thread is coming from. I'm sick of having to put up with highly praised games being put down just because they're not on the fanboys platform. It's stupid that games like Gears of War which scores high AAA, gets GOTY here and at E3 is called "overrated crap". There is just no call for that, so we have this thread which is making a preemptive strike against future Halo 3 bashers. And you KNOW that's going to happen.

Though Sith, I'm sorry but I do have to admonish you laughing off MGS4, Heavenly Sword and Lair. That kind of game bashing is just as unwarrented as the bashing we put up with on the games we love. We can't accurately predict what kind of sales they'll reach. And even if they don't exceed Halo 3 sales, I'm sure they'll all make very good numbers regardless. They each look very promising. I'm an X360 gamer and I can say I would love to play HS and Lair.

[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

The previous 2 Halo games each sold over 6 million copies. One can fully expect Halo 3 to reach this level (or beyond), given that Gears has sold over 4 million copies. At that point, you will probably be talking about a 50% attach rate. Despite these numbers, Cows and Sheep will still find ways to put down the game.

Name ONE game on the PS3 that will even come close to approaching these numbers - please! MGS4? :lol: The previous games didn't do this, what makes you think #4 will? Killflop 2? :lol: Lair? Heavenly Sword? None of these games will even come close to sniffing the level of success that Halo 3 will have - both in sales, hype, and impact on system sales.

AdobeArtist

I'm sure Sith is discussing sales of exclusives. And again I can feel where this thread is coming from. I'm sick of having to put up with highly praised games being put down just because they're not on the fanboys platform. It's stupid that games like Gears of War which scores high AAA, gets GOTY here and at E3 is called "overrated crap". There is just no call for that, so we have this thread which is making a preemptive strike against future Halo 3 bashers. And you KNOW that's going to happen.

Though Sith, I'm sorry but I do have to admonish you laughing off MGS4, Heavenly Sword and Lair. That kind of game bashing is just as unwarrented as the bashing we put up with on the games we love. We can't accurately predict what kind of sales they'll reach. And even if they don't exceed Halo 3 sales, I'm sure they'll all make very good numbers regardless. They each look very promising. I'm an X360 gamer and I can say I would love to play HS and Lair.

Fair enough.  I shouldn't have bashed those games like I did, I just grow tired of the "next" system seller that cows are hyping.  First it was Resistence.  Then VF5.  Then Motorstorm.  Now its Lair.  After that, Heavenly Sword. 

Yes, these may all be great games and I, too, wouldn't mind playing them.  Not that any of them make me want to go out and buy a PS3, but they would be fun to play through once.

The thing is - without GTA4 being exclusive to the PS3, I just don't see any game on the horizon that will have the same impact on the PS3 as Halo 3 will have for the 360 (and that Gears already had).

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"][QUOTE="Hoffgod"]

[QUOTE="tango90101"]attach rates are how money is made....;)Hoffgod

Say console A sells 5 million units and console B sells 200 million units. Company X puts game Y out for both systems. Both versions are priced equally and cost the same to make. It sells 1 million copies on each console.
The attach rate for console A is 20%. The attach rate for console B is 0.5%. Does this mean Company X suddenly made more money off of console A because the attach rate is higher?

Answer: No. 

The two go hand-in-hand.  I've never said to look at the attach rate only - it just needs to be included in each and every console sales discussion in these threads.  To say that the PS3 is selling at the same clip as the 360 is only half the argument.  At the same point in time, the 360 had 3 games sell 1 million copies (COD2, GRAW, Oblivion) versus the PS3 only one (Resistence).  This is a HUGE difference.

Yeah, those kinds of attach rates are very important. Just look at the PSP. 

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"][QUOTE="Hoffgod"]

[QUOTE="tango90101"]attach rates are how money is made....;)Hoffgod

Say console A sells 5 million units and console B sells 200 million units. Company X puts game Y out for both systems. Both versions are priced equally and cost the same to make. It sells 1 million copies on each console.
The attach rate for console A is 20%. The attach rate for console B is 0.5%. Does this mean Company X suddenly made more money off of console A because the attach rate is higher?

Answer: No. 

The two go hand-in-hand.  I've never said to look at the attach rate only - it just needs to be included in each and every console sales discussion in these threads.  To say that the PS3 is selling at the same clip as the 360 is only half the argument.  At the same point in time, the 360 had 3 games sell 1 million copies (COD2, GRAW, Oblivion) versus the PS3 only one (Resistence).  This is a HUGE difference.

Yeah, those kinds of attach rates are very important. Just look at the PSP. 

Thanks for being civil about it.  What about the PSP?  I'm not as familiar with how many games per unit it sells.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

The previous 2 Halo games each sold over 6 million copies. One can fully expect Halo 3 to reach this level (or beyond), given that Gears has sold over 4 million copies. At that point, you will probably be talking about a 50% attach rate. Despite these numbers, Cows and Sheep will still find ways to put down the game.

Name ONE game on the PS3 that will even come close to approaching these numbers - please! MGS4? :lol: The previous games didn't do this, what makes you think #4 will? Killflop 2? :lol: Lair? Heavenly Sword? None of these games will even come close to sniffing the level of success that Halo 3 will have - both in sales, hype, and impact on system sales.

REVENGEotSITH

I'm sure Sith is discussing sales of exclusives. And again I can feel where this thread is coming from. I'm sick of having to put up with highly praised games being put down just because they're not on the fanboys platform. It's stupid that games like Gears of War which scores high AAA, gets GOTY here and at E3 is called "overrated crap". There is just no call for that, so we have this thread which is making a preemptive strike against future Halo 3 bashers. And you KNOW that's going to happen.

Though Sith, I'm sorry but I do have to admonish you laughing off MGS4, Heavenly Sword and Lair. That kind of game bashing is just as unwarrented as the bashing we put up with on the games we love. We can't accurately predict what kind of sales they'll reach. And even if they don't exceed Halo 3 sales, I'm sure they'll all make very good numbers regardless. They each look very promising. I'm an X360 gamer and I can say I would love to play HS and Lair.

Fair enough.  I shouldn't have bashed those games like I did, I just grow tired of the "next" system seller that cows are hyping.  First it was Resistence.  Then VF5.  Then Motorstorm.  Now its Lair.  After that, Heavenly Sword. 

Yes, these may all be great games and I, too, wouldn't mind playing them.  Not that any of them make me want to go out and buy a PS3, but they would be fun to play through once.

The thing is - without GTA4 being exclusive to the PS3, I just don't see any game on the horizon that will have the same impact on the PS3 as Halo 3 will have for the 360 (and that Gears already had).

how is this for an example of attach rates mattering. two companys sell their systems and both lose $50 on each system sold. company A sells 10 million consoles with an attach rate of 6 games per unit and company B sells 20 million consoles with an attach rate of 3. who made more money.laughingman42

Oh, god, where is my calculator??? 

This is why you won't see the 360 or PS3 drop in price before they can get their production costs down.  There has to be a balance between the loss you take per console and the amount of money you expect to recoup through game sales. 

Gran Turismo is a huge series. GT5 will sell at least 6 million imo. 

diggyzoom

The Ps3 has to sell atleast 6 million before a software title will sell atleast that :/

[QUOTE="Rosencrantz"]Huh?  Why would people who don't want a game for any reason, feel the need to make excuses for it selling so well?  that makes absolutely no sense and I feel dumber for having even read this thread.REVENGEotSITH

Well, maybe "excuse" was the wrong word to use in the title.  No matter what its score here at GS, no matter how many millions of copies it sells, no matter how many games are played over Xbox Live, the haters will STILL come up with some reason as to why Halo 3 sux, its overhyped, etc. 

NO matter what it scores here at GS, no matter how many millions of copies it sells, no matter how many games are played over Xbox Live...I still hate FPSers and therefore will hate Halo 3.  I will still think the Halo franchise is the most over-rated series in history (maybe second to FF7, but I could go either way) and I couldnt' care less how many people I believe are suffering from hype and group think.

But if you like the game, good for you.  But I find it odd that you bash people who have already decided they are against Halo 3 while you have already made up your mind that no matter what, you will love and worship the game.  It's all the same behaviour, but you would prefer to believe the side you are on is the side of rightness and everyone else is wrong or stupid or a "hater".   Nothing you say will change the fact that I grew tired and bored with FPSers 15 years ago and now consider the whole genre to be the bottom of the barrel for the gaming world.  Yet you don't see me bashing YOU or anyone else for liking FPS.

The bottom line is: you can hype up Lair, HS, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Killzone 2, etc. and none of these will have the impact that Halo 3 will have. 

Actually, the bottom line is that if you hype anything, you are the end result of marketing and advertising.  Hardly an admiral trait if you ask me. 

Why do you even care about what others will say? Just get the game and enjoy it.

I'm a PS3 owner and i'll be enjoying the games i'll get. I could care less about what games from other consoles will sell and how many copies they'll sell.

lusitanogamer

If that is your feelings, then why the heck are you in system wars? Doesn't make much sense.... 

Well, we know that Halo fanboys would buy a cardboard box if it was published by Bungie; so no one is going to make excuses. But the amojnt of sales doesn't mean a game is good. Look at Pokemon for the DS. Millions upon millions sold, and I wouldn't play the game if it was the only game in the world.ZebethOrZebes

Well that is awesome you think so highly of you opinion.... 

[QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

Gran Turismo is a huge series. GT5 will sell at least 6 million imo.

gamer620

The Ps3 has to sell atleast 6 million before a software title will sell atleast that :/

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]

Why do you even care about what others will say? Just get the game and enjoy it.

I'm a PS3 owner and i'll be enjoying the games i'll get. I could care less about what games from other consoles will sell and how many copies they'll sell.

snyper1982

If that is your feelings, then why the heck are you in system wars? Doesn't make much sense.... 

:lol:  LOL.  Yeah, go over to the PS3 forum and have a group hug and get out of System Wars if you don't care about this stuff...

i agree halo 3 will probably sell the most along with GTA IV but i think depending on when god of war 3 is released will affect the sale numbers because if it comes out like in 2 years i dont think it will sell more because interest is always at the start of a console or a game but i think god of war 3 will or would sell better within this year..... cuz interest is kinda at the same or lower cuz no1 and i mean no1 really talks about it at my school i mean kids talk about the 360 and some about the wii (nintendo nerds never cease to amaze me no offense to any1 on here but seriously you dont play ur ds on the school bus) but the ps3 no1 really talks about only when they're like ill buy it when its $300 but when will that happen ?Microsoft1234

Punctuation is a wonderful thing...

[QUOTE="gamer620"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

Gran Turismo is a huge series. GT5 will sell at least 6 million imo.

diggyzoom

The Ps3 has to sell atleast 6 million before a software title will sell atleast that :/

ill agree it sells consoles but how many people will be willing to pay $600 for that one game not as many as the people who bought Gran Turismo for the ps2 only coughing up $300 at most 

LOL

SSBB will sell 6+ million

Nintendogs (if released this year) would sell 10+ million

Mario might come close to selling 5-6 million.

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"]i agree halo 3 will probably sell the most along with GTA IV but i think depending on when god of war 3 is released will affect the sale numbers because if it comes out like in 2 years i dont think it will sell more because interest is always at the start of a console or a game but i think god of war 3 will or would sell better within this year..... cuz interest is kinda at the same or lower cuz no1 and i mean no1 really talks about it at my school i mean kids talk about the 360 and some about the wii (nintendo nerds never cease to amaze me no offense to any1 on here but seriously you dont play ur ds on the school bus) but the ps3 no1 really talks about only when they're like ill buy it when its $300 but when will that happen ?REVENGEotSITH

Punctuation is a wonderful thing...

chill dude, just read it if not then why comment? 

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

[QUOTE="Rosencrantz"]Huh?  Why would people who don't want a game for any reason, feel the need to make excuses for it selling so well?  that makes absolutely no sense and I feel dumber for having even read this thread.Rosencrantz

Well, maybe "excuse" was the wrong word to use in the title.  No matter what its score here at GS, no matter how many millions of copies it sells, no matter how many games are played over Xbox Live, the haters will STILL come up with some reason as to why Halo 3 sux, its overhyped, etc. 

NO matter what it scores here at GS, no matter how many millions of copies it sells, no matter how many games are played over Xbox Live...I still hate FPSers and therefore will hate Halo 3.  I will still think the Halo franchise is the most over-rated series in history (maybe second to FF7, but I could go either way) and I couldnt' care less how many people I believe are suffering from hype and group think.

But if you like the game, good for you.  But I find it odd that you bash people who have already decided they are against Halo 3 while you have already made up your mind that no matter what, you will love and worship the game.  It's all the same behaviour, but you would prefer to believe the side you are on is the side of rightness and everyone else is wrong or stupid or a "hater".   Nothing you say will change the fact that I grew tired and bored with FPSers 15 years ago and now consider the whole genre to be the bottom of the barrel for the gaming world.  Yet you don't see me bashing YOU or anyone else for liking FPS.

The bottom line is: you can hype up Lair, HS, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Killzone 2, etc. and none of these will have the impact that Halo 3 will have. 

Actually, the bottom line is that if you hype anything, you are the end result of marketing and advertising.  Hardly an admiral trait if you ask me. 

ROCK ON!! 

OK? :|


Everybody knows Halo 3 will sell.DireToad

The previous 2 Halo games each sold over 6 million copies.  One can fully expect Halo 3 to reach this level (or beyond), given that Gears has sold over 4 million copies.  At that point, you will probably be talking about a 50% attach rate.  Despite these numbers, Cows and Sheep will still find ways to put down the game. 

Name ONE game on the PS3 that will even come close to approaching these numbers - please!  MGS4?  :lol:  The previous games didn't do this, what makes you think #4 will?  Killflop 2?  :lol:  Lair?  Heavenly Sword?  None of these games will even come close to sniffing the level of success that Halo 3 will have - both in sales, hype, and impact on system sales.

REVENGEotSITH

 What made you think someone was saying the contrary?

You expect me to believe that 60% of 360 owners are going to buy Halo 3?

Bull.  Maybe 2 years from now it'll reach 6mil.

And how is it ownage when a good game sells well? 

[QUOTE="tango90101"]attach rates are how money is made....;)Hoffgod

Say console A sells 5 million units and console B sells 200 million units. Company X puts game Y out for both systems. Both versions are priced equally and cost the same to make. It sells 1 million copies on each console.
The attach rate for console A is 20%. The attach rate for console B is 0.5%. Does this mean Company X suddenly made more money off of console A because the attach rate is higher?

Answer: No.

It doesn't matter what company X made, it matters what company A and B made.  Company B spent alot to get all of their consoles out there, which means in no way did they get close to offsetting their investment.  While company A probably did.  The attach rate is much more important for both console and software makers.

So basically what I'm saying is that your example proves how important attach rate is.  The more consoles sold, the more money you would have to make up with software sales, you are not going to do that with an attach rates of 0.5%.  Not only that but in a situation where the consoles sold by both companies where equal, company A selling 10mil, company B selling 10mil, the software companies are deffinatly going to be looking at attach rates. 

Halo 3 could suck at still sell because of its name, its an established, proven franchise, an overrated one at that, but proven.

Also, since when does sales make a game better than another? It's all in the eye of the beholder, not the numbers. Damn, people that call themselves gamers.. need to stop worrying so much about the numbers and enjoy the games.

Oh, and on a side note, I own Wii, PS3, and 360.