What (feasible things) do you want on next gen consoles?
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Because you can't test hardware like a video game console the same way you can stress a hard drive for instance. It is completely different for singular pieces, but when you add in all the little parts that bring multiple pieces together for a console, it is impossible to make that guarantee, let alone put money on it. You think Microsoft will consider a life time guarantee for the 360s successor? Absolutely not. What something like this does however is makes them more aware of the issues come next gen and not to be so sloppy. Rather than rushing a console out the door, they are giving more time to R&D. I bet you might see standard 3 year warranties, but never life time. To many variables. Well, how about a minimum five-year warranty, then? Some European countries mandate such a warranty (at a minimum) for all products, IIRC, as a means of quality assurance. Your problem (and it is not just you, so don't think I am picking on you specifically) is that you are looking at this from the consumer's perspective rather than a business perspective. What is best for the end consumer is not the best business decision. Free shipping on everything would be fantastic, but it will never happen because its bad business practice. Lifetime warranties and even just long term warranties are bad business decisions for hardware that can never be disaster proof. Now on the other hand, extended warranties DO exist. You have to pay for this though, much like you pay for your car insurance in case a tree falls on your call in the middle of the night. Insurance covers it. If for instance, microsoft offered an out of the box life time warranty, they would be relying on uncontrollable events (weather, dust, shipping, ect) to be in favor of their hardware. These are all problems that are out of the manufacturers control (and are FREQUENT OCCURANCES that can brick any system at any given time) If you want a life time warranty on your consoles, you should buy an extended warranty with your system. Break the system right before the warranty expires and repeat. Youll pay extra for it, but you won't pay for the entire price for the new system and you don't even have to worry about shipping it back to the manufacturer and waiting.[QUOTE="gamer620"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]On the issue of lifetime guarantees, some things are guaranteed for life, such as some PC parts. Some governments mandate at least a five year warranty. Why not have a lifetime warranty and put your money where your proverbial mouth is?HuusAsking
Life-time guarantee
BC to all previous systems(excluding cartidge consoles ofc)
Low failure rate(technical problems etc)
Free online
Region-free games
All games at least 1080 native
Cross servers(people from diferent consoles and pc playing on the same server)
Unofficial controller support
Hope i am not forgetting anything.
asdasdrgr
They will never offer a life time gurantee. Which that maybe the only way I buy a next gen console on launch date is if they were to release a 5 year warranty for their product which is very doubtful that they will so odds are I won't be buying brand new.
BC is a nice option but I'm fine with just buying old consoles as well.
The failure rate doesn't matter if a 5 year warranty let alone a life time warranty is applied to the product. I could care less what the failure rate is I won't be buying till the price is right which probably won't show up till a few years after release date.
Free online is a must
The biggest thing is the warranty for me. I won't spend hundreds of dollars this next gen on something going bad on me in 2 or 3 years. I don't care what the failure rates are I won't be spending more than $300 for it unless around 5 year warranty is applied.
I want sharks with frickin' lazer beams attached to their heads.GreyfeldBut i must cost a faffillion-spillion dollars!! Mu-a-hahahaha!!!
[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]Well, how about a minimum five-year warranty, then? Some European countries mandate such a warranty (at a minimum) for all products, IIRC, as a means of quality assurance. Your problem (and it is not just you, so don't think I am picking on you specifically) is that you are looking at this from the consumer's perspective rather than a business perspective. What is best for the end consumer is not the best business decision. Free shipping on everything would be fantastic, but it will never happen because its bad business practice. Lifetime warranties and even just long term warranties are bad business decisions for hardware that can never be disaster proof. Now on the other hand, extended warranties DO exist. You have to pay for this though, much like you pay for your car insurance in case a tree falls on your call in the middle of the night. Insurance covers it. If for instance, microsoft offered an out of the box life time warranty, they would be relying on uncontrollable events (weather, dust, shipping, ect) to be in favor of their hardware. These are all problems that are out of the manufacturers control (and are FREQUENT OCCURANCES that can brick any system at any given time) If you want a life time warranty on your consoles, you should buy an extended warranty with your system. Break the system right before the warranty expires and repeat. Youll pay extra for it, but you won't pay for the entire price for the new system and you don't even have to worry about shipping it back to the manufacturer and waiting.So I'm looking at it from a consumer's perspective. "People first, business second" is a philosophy of mine. And like I said, it's the law in some countries because governments also see the people as more important than business and want businesses to think similarly by standing behind their products for reasonable lengths of time.[QUOTE="gamer620"] Because you can't test hardware like a video game console the same way you can stress a hard drive for instance. It is completely different for singular pieces, but when you add in all the little parts that bring multiple pieces together for a console, it is impossible to make that guarantee, let alone put money on it. You think Microsoft will consider a life time guarantee for the 360s successor? Absolutely not. What something like this does however is makes them more aware of the issues come next gen and not to be so sloppy. Rather than rushing a console out the door, they are giving more time to R&D. I bet you might see standard 3 year warranties, but never life time. To many variables. gamer620
And claiming uncontrollable cirsumstances can be considered baloney by some people. If a situation can be anticipated (like rough shipping or dust), preventive measures can be taken (such as good packing techniques or dust protection or ventilation). As for things that can be verified as being the user's fault, a warranty can include a caveat for that.
Life-time guarantee
BC to all previous systems(excluding cartidge consoles ofc)
Low failure rate(technical problems etc)
Free online
Region-free games
All games at least 1080 native
Cross servers(people from diferent consoles and pc playing on the same server)
Unofficial controller support
Hope i am not forgetting anything.
asdasdrgr
The PC currently has almost everything here. So basically, you want the next gen system to be a PC? =P
[QUOTE="asdasdrgr"]
Life-time guarantee
BC to all previous systems(excluding cartidge consoles ofc)
Low failure rate(technical problems etc)
Free online
Region-free games
All games at least 1080 native
Cross servers(people from diferent consoles and pc playing on the same server)
Unofficial controller support
Hope i am not forgetting anything.
xionvalkyrie
The PC currently has almost everything here. So basically, you want the next gen system to be a PC? =P
Exactly :Your problem (and it is not just you, so don't think I am picking on you specifically) is that you are looking at this from the consumer's perspective rather than a business perspective. What is best for the end consumer is not the best business decision. Free shipping on everything would be fantastic, but it will never happen because its bad business practice. Lifetime warranties and even just long term warranties are bad business decisions for hardware that can never be disaster proof. Now on the other hand, extended warranties DO exist. You have to pay for this though, much like you pay for your car insurance in case a tree falls on your call in the middle of the night. Insurance covers it. If for instance, microsoft offered an out of the box life time warranty, they would be relying on uncontrollable events (weather, dust, shipping, ect) to be in favor of their hardware. These are all problems that are out of the manufacturers control (and are FREQUENT OCCURANCES that can brick any system at any given time) If you want a life time warranty on your consoles, you should buy an extended warranty with your system. Break the system right before the warranty expires and repeat. Youll pay extra for it, but you won't pay for the entire price for the new system and you don't even have to worry about shipping it back to the manufacturer and waiting.So I'm looking at it from a consumer's perspective. "People first, business second" is a philosophy of mine. And like I said, it's the law in some countries because governments also see the people as more important than business and want businesses to think similarly by standing behind their products for reasonable lengths of time.[QUOTE="gamer620"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]Well, how about a minimum five-year warranty, then? Some European countries mandate such a warranty (at a minimum) for all products, IIRC, as a means of quality assurance.
HuusAsking
And claiming uncontrollable cirsumstances can be considered baloney by some people. If a situation can be anticipated (like rough shipping or dust), preventive measures can be taken (such as good packing techniques or dust protection or ventilation). As for things that can be verified as being the user's fault, a warranty can include a caveat for that.
In the sense of problems in shipping, thats why companies have factory warranties that last 90 days from purchase. Dust however is different as its completely random and dependent on user upkeep. It is the same with bad weather. I not once stated anything about user fault, as that would never be covered by a warranty anyways.I hope the big 3 see this:
PS4: Full BC at least untill ps3.
decent price
get rid of controller wires PERMENENTLY
get good launch games.
XBOX 720(?): BC to at least xbox 360
hardware thats relaiable like now, only straight away
try not to get add-ons
free online.
next ninty console:
revive th old 1st party franchises(starfox, f-zero, etc..)
full BC
all present VC games already on next gen VC
dod what you did in the 80s, don't tolerate shovelware
get the 3rds partys back
hardware thats at least as powerful as the other consoles, like you've done every gen except this one.
everyone: FUN.
- Reliable Hardware - No breakdown or Meltdown
- Removable-upgradable HDD (like with PS3)
- BR/DVD player built in
- 1080p must be standard
- HDMI & USB ports
- HDMI cables included with all SKUs - NO MORE composite and component
- Wi-Fi capable in all (although personally I prefer ethernet hard line)
- Affordable price at launch, at least $299, nothing more than that.
- And a FREE GAME included with each SKU, just like the Wii
- all controllers and Motion Sensing devices have removable batteries, like 360. (don't like the idea of internal batteries dying with age)
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