What game do you think has the best turn-based battle system?

I have to laugh every time I hear Final Fantasy X. I'm sorry, but not even Pokemon, Paper Mario, Fire Emblem, Mario & Luigi, and such can even come close to beating ToonTown. You play those games for the story, and the majority of people spend only about 50 hours on each. ToonTown offers upwards of 2000hours of pure gameplay. There's really no story in ToonTown; everyone plays for the combat (and maybe a few side activities for the younge crowd).

ToonTown obliterates every other turn-based battle system. The standard attack buttons are used far too often in other turn-based games. Final Fantasy X, for example, does have you occasionally summoning an Aeon or something, but you far too often use the standard "Attack" button. Not only does solo-ing in ToonTown add a new dimension to the gameplay, but the fact that you have to work with three other teammates adds a lot more depth to it. You have to coordinate your teammates with what you are doing. One wrong move by one single player can completely**** over the whole team (using sound on lured cogs, for example), as long as you are fighting the level cogs you should be fighting at your level.

The entire game almost forces you to be with teammates, but once you max out everything, get a few SOSs, Unites, and Pink Slips, you can start solo-ing the bosses. Literally, only a few people have ever done this. Even after investing 2000 hours, you'll still havea hard time.

Anyway, what say you? Best turn-based battle system.

Get ready for the flood of JRPGs.

Silent Storm.

I have to laugh every time I hear Final Fantasy X. I'm sorry, but not even Pokemon, Paper Mario, Fire Emblem, Mario & Luigi, and such can even come close to beating ToonTown. You play those games for the story, and the majority of people spend only about 50 hours on each. ToonTown offers upwards of 2000hours of pure gameplay. There's really no story in ToonTown; everyone plays for the combat (and maybe a few side activities for the younge crowd).

ToonTown obliterates every other turn-based battle system. The standard attack buttons are used far too often in other turn-based games. Final Fantasy X, for example, does have you occasionally summoning an Aeon or something, but you far too often use the standard "Attack" button. Not only does solo-ing in ToonTown add a new dimension to the gameplay, but the fact that you have to work with three other teammates adds a lot more depth to it. You have to coordinate your teammates with what you are doing. One wrong move by one single player can completely**** over the whole team (using sound on lured cogs, for example), as long as you are fighting the level cogs you should be fighting at your level.

The entire game almost forces you to be with teammates, but once you max out everything, get a few SOSs, Unites, and Pink Slips, you can start solo-ing the bosses. Literally, only a few people have ever done this. Even after investing 2000 hours, you'll still havea hard time.

Anyway, what say you? Best turn-based battle system.

DeathScape666

Sorry, but I always think you're kidding when you say toon town.

Anyways, I'm really hyped for Eternal Sonata/Shining Force Feathers battle system, I only played the demo of Eternal Sonata (ordered both games) and I'm expecting great things.

Currently though, I'd have to say some sort of Tactical RPG, I completely love the mechanics it has.

Disciples 2.

InB4 the usual rant about how DeathScape666 is obsessed with Toon Town and other kiddie games.

Maybe Silent Storm or some other TBS of the sorts.

Get ready for the flood of JRPGs.

2-10-08

Silly, this is a western fourm, WRPGs/TBS will be here.

Blue Dragon.

Fallout and Fallout 2. Also, the Civilization series.

I think DeathScape is addicted to ToonTown. Moving onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.....I like Persona 3's system because it moves so fast and requires some decent strategy. Losy Odysseys is also nice cause it looks so great, but it is quite standard.

FFX by a freaking long shot. Takes about 1 second in the battle, so fast and fluid. The quickness of battles makes grinding enjoyable.

After that, its Persona 3. I havent played Persona 4 yet but i heard it pretty much improves P3s battle system in all aspects so il probably choose that when i play it

Skies of Arcadia was pretty neat too.

Toontown....meh

gotta give it up for persona 4, but not only the battles themselves, the whole persona fusing system too, it's genious the choices of what kind of battler you want the MC to be is virtually endless, whether it be a absolute physical phenonom, and fire/ice/etc powerhouse, a healing powerhouse, etc, etc

along with being able to adapt certain moves from others that your fused persona would of never learned otherwise and potentially make them a lot more balanced of a fighter

not to mention being able to change persona's in the middle of battle multiple times and still be able to make a move the same turn you switch persona's and battles are generally pretty quick paced, no abnoxious 5+ second animations or long battle intros/endings, and the "rush" feature is always nice to have if the enemies at the time are weak

THANK GOD, for direct control over each character in persona 4, rather than having to give the tactics in persona 3 which have caused many complications at times, although i did really miss not being able to sit back and send out my party to fight themselves without having to actually go into a battle...great way to get through tartarus and level up your party quickly when you're already more than powerful enough due to smart persona fusing

although i didnt mind the battle music, it could of used more variety

also buffing/debuffing has a uch greater affect in persona 3/4 than a lot of other jrpg's, which is awesome

and of course the clasic element system...fire/ice/electric/wind/light/dark/physical, with persona's and enemies having a variety of defensive strengths and weaknesses, but also there is null(doesnt do any damage), drain(absorbs the dmg as hp)

the weakness/knocking down system is pretty cool, knock down all enemies in a battle by hitting their weakness and being able to go in for an "all out attack" which is generally a high dmg attack to all enemies done by your whole party, typically always finishing off the enemies, or you have the choice to skip the all out attack and either use a different move or hit the again with their weakness and make them dizzy, in which they will lose a turn a battle...both ways provide strategy for different scenarios

the overall balance, startegy, difficulty, and choice of what kind of battler you want to be, surely makes persona 4one of the best in my book

LOL at turn based games. THose things are so boring.

Fart_Storm

They're some of the best games ever made. Call of Duty's got nothing on this!

LOL at turn based games. THose things are so boring.

Fart_Storm

LOL at you disliking turn based games. Action games are boring.

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LOL at turn based games. THose things are so boring.

Phoenix534

They're some of the best games ever made. Call of Duty's got nothing on this!

definetly FFX.

also who plays pokemon for the story? :P

I agree with FFX-2, it was so fluid. Too bad the story sucked and the graphics had no improvements whatsoever.

Pokemon... Thats right I said it.

Kings Bounty: The Legend has a pretty good system. Lacks depth, but it works well regardless because it's easy to get you're head around, and it still presents a challenge, which makes for addictive gameplay.

I liked the turn based gameplay of VC aswell.

Advance Wars is quite fun too.

Also FF:Tactics. Terrible balance in difficulty and too much grinding, but it offers a large amount of freedom to develop characters which makes the game feel quite dynamic, unlike just about every other FF game.

I find traditional JRPG turn based systems a bit uninspiring after a while, and the combat in games like Fallout 1/2is so utterly slow and tedious it makes me want to smash my skull against this desk whenever I try to play it.

The Civilization series. Bentham

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Fire Emblem, and Golden Sun

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LOL at turn based games. THose things are so boring.

kidcool189

They're some of the best games ever made. Call of Duty's got nothing on this!

not sarcasm.

Final Fantasy X-2. Everything else about the game was unimpressive, but it took FFX's combat system and perfected it.kieranb2000

i achieved my greatest experience grinding in x-2. it's the only turn-based game i know of that this works with.

1. make everybody a white mage so each time they attack, they heal the party.
2. tape down the x button
3. tape the left analog up in such a way that it causes your character to slowly walk (out of battle, preferably in the thunder plains cause of the length).

basically, in ffx, holding the x button down before the battle doesn't register as a command in the menu, but it works in x-2. the x button is always held down so each character keeps attacking and clicking through the post battle menus. the analog is tapped in such a way that it keeps yuna slowly walking one direction down the thunder plains. just set her up for a walk down the plains and come back every 30 minutes to turn her around. got to level 100 VERY quickly.

everything else about that game wasn't very enjoyable for me. felt a little ridiculous playing that game, the experience grinding part was fun though.

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They're some of the best games ever made. Call of Duty's got nothing on this!

Phoenix534

not sarcasm.

Come on now. Of all the turn-based games out there, you chose this one........ *shakes head*

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[QUOTE="kidcool189"] whether you're being sarcastic or not, i agree

Ziek-AAT

not sarcasm.

Come on now. Of all the turn-based games out there, you chose this one........ *shakes head*

KOTOR

Stringerboy

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KOTOR

moose_knuckler

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KOTOR

moose_knuckler

But KoTOR isn't turn based....

The only time i like turn-based is when its a TBS, apart from that i prefer my games in real-time.

Get laughing, because FFX is my favorite.

Get laughing, because FFX is my favorite.

Chutebox

Laugh at me as well, because I go for FFX and DQ8

Interesting to see so many like X. I thought I was one of the few who actually thought the sphere grid was a nice step in level and stat customization. Though I wouldn't say it's my fav. FF : P

The only time i like turn-based is when its a RTS, apart from that i prefer my games in real-time.

Snagal123

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The only time i like turn-based is when its a RTS, apart from that i prefer my games in real-time.

Cherokee_Jack

Yes its called Total War! :D

Or should i say i wasn't thinking when i was typing :P

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KOTOR

Cherokee_Jack

Never noticed it was a DnD game with a Star Wars skin? Never noticed your next attack on the queue only occurs after everyone else has taken an action? It's totally turn-based if you have to wait for everyone else to move before you move.

Pretty much any SMT game, I love how brutally you have to fight in order to win, regular attacks are useless in most SMT games.

Grandia II

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Woot! +1 for this. Lost Odyssey hits it quite weel as well.Technoweirdo

Never noticed it was a DnD game with a Star Wars skin? Never noticed your next attack on the queue only occurs after everyone else has taken an action? It's totally turn-based if you have to wait for everyone else to move before you move.

Except it's not. Actions are qued, but there's no waiting for the other player to attack., meaning the game is real time. You can hit out with an attack twice without having to wait and if you do wait you will die.There for it's clealy not turn based.

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The only time i like turn-based is when its a RTS, apart from that i prefer my games in real-time.

Cherokee_Jack

i lol'd :lol: