because were all sadistic bastards that love watching red goo fly everywhere, what say you?
id say dead space
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because were all sadistic bastards that love watching red goo fly everywhere, what say you?
id say dead space
You mean realistic as in anatomically correct, or just as in the amount? Because Dead Space isn't entirely realistic (I don't think a normal human body can be severed with a single boot stomp).
I'd probably say Left 4 Dead 2 or Dead Rising, zombie games tend to have a little more research in them for that stuff, though it is odd they'd be so weak a single guitar hit can decapitate (in both games).
lol omg buddy of course no one gives a ****, no one gives a **** about any topic on here. who said great blood makes a great game? ha ha gimme a breakWho cares? Fancy blood effects don't make a good game.
DarkLink77
You mean realistic as in anatomically correct, or just as in the amount? Because Dead Space isn't entirely realistic (I don't think a normal human body can be severed with a single boot stomp).
I'd probably say Left 4 Dead 2 or Dead Rising, zombie games tend to have a little more research in them for that stuff, though it is odd they'd be so weak a single guitar hit can decapitate (in both games).
ya left 4 dead is good. another one i would say is red dead redemption. everything from the blood splatter on walls to the bullet holes in bodies to the pool of blood that slowly seeps out. atleast i imagine it being somewhat realistic cuz iv never seen someone shot before lolWho cares? Fancy blood effects don't make a good game.
DarkLink77
It's what sold Mortal Kombat.
[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]
Who cares? Fancy blood effects don't make a good game.
OneSanitarium
It's what sold Mortal Kombat.
:P
Pretty sure the ninjas sold MK. :P[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]
Who cares? Fancy blood effects don't make a good game.
Arach666
It's what sold Mortal Kombat.
:P
Being a great game helped. :PMortal Kombat.
Great Game.
Pick one.
[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]
Who cares? Fancy blood effects don't make a good game.
DarkLink77
It's what sold Mortal Kombat.
:P
Pretty sure the ninjas sold MK. :PThat explains the commercials with the bro gamers playing it and being all "OH MUH GAWD" about the fatalities.
lolfatalities.
Pretty sure the ninjas sold MK. :P[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]
It's what sold Mortal Kombat.
:P
Yangire
Ninjas, gore, simplicity, and girls with large breasts sold MK.
GIRL with large breast. Everyone has the same character model, so its not fair to say multiple.
Being a great game helped. :P[QUOTE="Arach666"]
[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]
It's what sold Mortal Kombat.
:P
OneSanitarium
Mortal Kombat.
Great Game.
Pick one.
Nope,great game,may not appeal to some hardcore figthings fans but overall,it´s one of the best games in the genre this gen.[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]
[QUOTE="Arach666"] Being a great game helped. :P
Arach666
Mortal Kombat.
Great Game.
Pick one.
Nope,great game,may not appeal to some hardcore figthings fans but overall,it´s one of the best games in the genre this gen.It's odd to call something one of the recent best of the genre when those who know nothing of the genre seem to enjoy it the most.
Nope,great game,may not appeal to some hardcore figthings fans but overall,it´s one of the best games in the genre this gen.[QUOTE="Arach666"]
[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]
Mortal Kombat.
Great Game.
Pick one.
Yangire
It's odd to call something one of the recent best of the genre when those who know nothing of the genre seem to enjoy it the most.
I enjoyed it just as much, if not more, than Super Street Fighter 4 (which I loved).Do I qualify, or is SSF4 not deep and complex enough for you?
[QUOTE="Yangire"]
[QUOTE="Arach666"] Nope,great game,may not appeal to some hardcore figthings fans but overall,it´s one of the best games in the genre this gen.
drinkerofjuice
It's odd to call something one of the recent best of the genre when those who know nothing of the genre seem to enjoy it the most.
I enjoyed it just as much, if not more, than Super Street Fighter 4 (which I loved).Do I qualify, or is SSF4 not deep and complex enough for you?
I was speaking of people in general, you (one person) doesn't disprove anything.
I enjoyed it just as much, if not more, than Super Street Fighter 4 (which I loved).[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]
[QUOTE="Yangire"]
It's odd to call something one of the recent best of the genre when those who know nothing of the genre seem to enjoy it the most.
Yangire
Do I qualify, or is SSF4 not deep and complex enough for you?
I was speaking of people in general, you (one person) doesn't disprove anything.
What about two people? :o :PI was speaking of people in general, you (one person) doesn't disprove anything.Or maybe, just maybe Mortal Kombat is truly a great fighter? I mean, it's not hard to comprehend.Yangire
Or maybe, just maybe Mortal Kombat is truly a great fighter? I mean, it's not hard to comprehend.[QUOTE="Yangire"] I was speaking of people in general, you (one person) doesn't disprove anything.
drinkerofjuice
Haha, no. There's nothing "great" about MK, unless you can enlighten me on these great aspects.
Nope,great game,may not appeal to some hardcore figthings fans but overall,it´s one of the best games in the genre this gen.[QUOTE="Arach666"]
[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]
Mortal Kombat.
Great Game.
Pick one.
Yangire
It's odd to call something one of the recent best of the genre when those who know nothing of the genre seem to enjoy it the most.
Yes,yes Yangire,I know,MK is for noobs and it´s a terrible fighter. It´s also oddly acclaimed for having one of the best(if not the best)single player component in the genre in recent years,full of content unlike a ton of others that are completely bare bones,among other accolades.A great figthing game is a great figthing game,doesn´t really matter if it doesn´t fit the criteria of some harcore figthing games players,because they are not the only ones playing it,and overall,even though it may be a more "simplistic" game(never said it was the deepest or one of) than others in the genre,it´s certainly a very good and enjoyable one.
MK has good visuals,great music,great story mode,a ton of extra content and it´s a thoroughly enjoyable game to play. It certainly is one of the best this gen.
[QUOTE="Yangire"]
[QUOTE="Arach666"] Nope,great game,may not appeal to some hardcore figthings fans but overall,it´s one of the best games in the genre this gen.
Arach666
It's odd to call something one of the recent best of the genre when those who know nothing of the genre seem to enjoy it the most.
Yes,yes Yangire,I know,MK is for noobs and it´s a terrible fighter. It´s also oddly acclaimed for having one of the best(if not the best)single player component in the genre in recent years,full of content unlike a ton of others that are completely bare bones,among other accolades.A great figthing game is a great figthing game,doesn´t really matter if it doesn´t fit the criteria of some harcore figthing games players,because they are not the only ones playing it,and overall,even though it may be a more "simplistic" game(never said it was the deepest or one of) than others in the genre,it´s certainly a very good and enjoyable one.
MK has good visuals,great music,great story mode,a ton of extra content and it´s a thoroughly enjoyable game to play. It certainly is one of the best this gen.
So it's good because it's better than the competition in everything but gameplay/mechanics (the things that matter)? I mean if you don't want to play a fighting game for its gameplay I can understand why MK would be a good choice.
Yes,yes Yangire,I know,MK is for noobs and it´s a terrible fighter. It´s also oddly acclaimed for having one of the best(if not the best)single player component in the genre in recent years,full of content unlike a ton of others that are completely bare bones,among other accolades.[QUOTE="Arach666"]
[QUOTE="Yangire"]
It's odd to call something one of the recent best of the genre when those who know nothing of the genre seem to enjoy it the most.
Yangire
A great figthing game is a great figthing game,doesn´t really matter if it doesn´t fit the criteria of some harcore figthing games players,because they are not the only ones playing it,and overall,even though it may be a more "simplistic" game(never said it was the deepest or one of) than others in the genre,it´s certainly a very good and enjoyable one.
MK has good visuals,great music,great story mode,a ton of extra content and it´s a thoroughly enjoyable game to play. It certainly is one of the best this gen.
So it's good because it's better than the competition in everything but gameplay/mechanics (the things that matter)? I mean if you don't want to play a fighting game for its gameplay I can understand why MK would be a good choice.
The gameplay is pretty damn good,visceral and enjoyable,and requires,like any other game in the genre,skill to master. If the gameplay was bad it woudn´t have been recieved as well as it did. Gameplay wise, Shaq Fu is bad. Rise of the robots is bad. Pit Figther is bad. Some of the old MK games were very average. MK9 is good. Having all the content it has only makes it even better.
[QUOTE="Yangire"]
[QUOTE="Arach666"] Yes,yes Yangire,I know,MK is for noobs and it´s a terrible fighter. It´s also oddly acclaimed for having one of the best(if not the best)single player component in the genre in recent years,full of content unlike a ton of others that are completely bare bones,among other accolades.
A great figthing game is a great figthing game,doesn´t really matter if it doesn´t fit the criteria of some harcore figthing games players,because they are not the only ones playing it,and overall,even though it may be a more "simplistic" game(never said it was the deepest or one of) than others in the genre,it´s certainly a very good and enjoyable one.
MK has good visuals,great music,great story mode,a ton of extra content and it´s a thoroughly enjoyable game to play. It certainly is one of the best this gen.
Arach666
So it's good because it's better than the competition in everything but gameplay/mechanics (the things that matter)? I mean if you don't want to play a fighting game for its gameplay I can understand why MK would be a good choice.
The gameplay is pretty damn good,visceral and enjoyable,and requires,like any other game in the genre,skill to master. If the gameplay was bad it woudn´t have been recieved as well as it did. Gameplay wise, Shaq Fu is bad. Rise of the robots is bad. Pit Figther is bad. Some of the old MK games were very average. MK9 is good. Having all the content it has only makes it even better.
Skill to master? Some guys picked up Mortal Kombat for a few weeks for the PDP National Tournament and got farther than actual MK fans. It might take fundimental skill to win in the game, but little to no skill/time is needed to learn characters. Recieved well? Depends on who you ask.
I agree that those games are bad, worse than MK9 but that only makes them worse than MK9.
Yes,yes Yangire,I know,MK is for noobs and it´s a terrible fighter. It´s also oddly acclaimed for having one of the best(if not the best)single player component in the genre in recent years,full of content unlike a ton of others that are completely bare bones,among other accolades.[QUOTE="Arach666"]
[QUOTE="Yangire"]
It's odd to call something one of the recent best of the genre when those who know nothing of the genre seem to enjoy it the most.
Yangire
A great figthing game is a great figthing game,doesn´t really matter if it doesn´t fit the criteria of some harcore figthing games players,because they are not the only ones playing it,and overall,even though it may be a more "simplistic" game(never said it was the deepest or one of) than others in the genre,it´s certainly a very good and enjoyable one.
MK has good visuals,great music,great story mode,a ton of extra content and it´s a thoroughly enjoyable game to play. It certainly is one of the best this gen.
So it's good because it's better than the competition in everything but gameplay/mechanics (the things that matter)? I mean if you don't want to play a fighting game for its gameplay I can understand why MK would be a good choice.
But it has great gameplay. It's a terrific return to form in the series, and provides a robust cast of fighters who are all easy to play with but a challenge to truly master. The mechanics provide a beat em' up feel that a lot of fighters truly lack. You actually feel like you're dealing serious physical damage to your opponent, and the set fatalities that each character possesses are extremely satisfying, bringing back old memories without ever really relying on nostalgia. The game has a story mode more complete than most fighters. It carries more unlockable SP content than most fighters. The challenge tower also provides a ton of different, highly entertaining scenarios, where you're forced to play with the entire cast of fighters. There's a ton of challenges to do, and it does a fine job keeping the gameplay fresh, single-player wise.[QUOTE="Arach666"]
[QUOTE="Yangire"]
So it's good because it's better than the competition in everything but gameplay/mechanics (the things that matter)? I mean if you don't want to play a fighting game for its gameplay I can understand why MK would be a good choice.
Yangire
The gameplay is pretty damn good,visceral and enjoyable,and requires,like any other game in the genre,skill to master. If the gameplay was bad it woudn´t have been recieved as well as it did. Gameplay wise, Shaq Fu is bad. Rise of the robots is bad. Pit Figther is bad. Some of the old MK games were very average. MK9 is good. Having all the content it has only makes it even better.
Skill to master? Some guys picked up Mortal Kombat for a few weeks for the PDP National Tournament and got farther than actual MK fans. It might take fundimental skill to win in the game, but little to no skill/time is needed to learn characters. Recieved well? Depends on who you ask.
I agree that those games are bad, worse than MK9 but that only makes them worse than MK9.
critics disagree with you[QUOTE="Yangire"]
[QUOTE="Arach666"]
The gameplay is pretty damn good,visceral and enjoyable,and requires,like any other game in the genre,skill to master. If the gameplay was bad it woudn´t have been recieved as well as it did. Gameplay wise, Shaq Fu is bad. Rise of the robots is bad. Pit Figther is bad. Some of the old MK games were very average. MK9 is good. Having all the content it has only makes it even better.
EggHeadMan
Skill to master? Some guys picked up Mortal Kombat for a few weeks for the PDP National Tournament and got farther than actual MK fans. It might take fundimental skill to win in the game, but little to no skill/time is needed to learn characters. Recieved well? Depends on who you ask.
I agree that those games are bad, worse than MK9 but that only makes them worse than MK9.
critics disagree with you If you're not going to provide an argument other than "B-b-but teh critics liked it!" you might as well not bother. Most critics aren't good enough at fighting games to determine whether or not they're competitive games.But it has great gameplay. It's a terrific return to form in the series, and provides a robust cast of fighters who are all easy to playwith but a challenge to truly master.The mechanics provide a beat em' up feel that a lot of fighters truly lack.You actually feel like you're dealing serious physical damage to your opponent, and the set fatalities that each character possesses are extremely satisfying, bringing back old memories without ever really relying on nostalgia. drinkerofjuice
I agree
I strongly disagree, read my recent post.
So rather than liking the actual mechanics you like the visual/gimmick aspect of them?
critics disagree with you
EggHeadMan
Most critics don't even play fighting games/casually play them. If anything that helps prove some of my points.
[QUOTE="Arach666"]
[QUOTE="Yangire"]
So it's good because it's better than the competition in everything but gameplay/mechanics (the things that matter)? I mean if you don't want to play a fighting game for its gameplay I can understand why MK would be a good choice.
Yangire
The gameplay is pretty damn good,visceral and enjoyable,and requires,like any other game in the genre,skill to master. If the gameplay was bad it woudn´t have been recieved as well as it did. Gameplay wise, Shaq Fu is bad. Rise of the robots is bad. Pit Figther is bad. Some of the old MK games were very average. MK9 is good. Having all the content it has only makes it even better.
Skill to master? Some guys picked up Mortal Kombat for a few weeks for the PDP National Tournament and got farther than actual MK fans. It might take fundimental skill to win in the game, but little to no skill/time is needed to learn characters. Recieved well? Depends on who you ask.
I agree that those games are bad, worse than MK9 but that only makes them worse than MK9.
You are basing it all on the tournament level of things and less in the actual game and if it´s enjoyable or not to play. You can have the deepest game ever but if it´s not enjoyable to play for most people,it doesn´t go very far,or at least it ends up not being as sucessfull as others.
And as far as depth goes,let me aproach this discussion with a genre that I actually know extremely well: Strategy.
Starcraft 2 is these days,the biggest competitive game in the world. But is it the deepest RTS out there? No.
Supreme Commander(just one example) is much deeper than SC2,but the thing is,overall,SC2 is the better game,and one of the reasons why it´s more popular than SupCom.
Same could be said about TBS between Civilization V and Hearts of Iron 3.
Depth is not a deciding factor to wheter a game is good or bad,it´s the overall package that counts,and again,MK9,all things considered,it´s a very good game.
Really? Some people have said Fallout 3 has realistic blood effects? Its realistic to slash someone with a knife and for their whole body to explode into bloody pieces? Or for me to punch someones head off into chunks? I'd say Gears of War is the closest to being realistic, which isn't that much.
The visual aspect adds to the overall experience and feel. It helped the mechanics become very satisfying, so I really don't see the issue.So rather than liking the actual mechanics you like the visual/gimmick aspect of them?
Yangire
I also like how excluded everything I mentioned about the challenge tower and the game's overall content. Things that add onto the gameplay. But no biggie.
We get it: It's not a deep fighting game compared to most. But this next part may shock you: I really don't care. I wasn't expecting MK to be like MvC, SF, or any other fighter that's highly competitive. MK is a great fighter partially due to it providing an alternative, being low on depth and competitiveness, but immense in pure satisfaction and enjoyment.
Soldier of Fortune 2 had some amazing gore effects. It was actually kind of shocking, blowing off a guy's legs and watching him squirm, or getting him in the neck and having him gurgle and choke to his knees. The bullet marks were an especially nice touch.
Soldier of fortune 2 still has the best interactive violence. As in, the amount of visible damage you are able to inflict on the baddies still hasn't been surpassed.
Some games might feature a better looking beheading or whatever, but overall I still have not seen one with that much violence.
[QUOTE="EggHeadMan"]critics disagree with you If you're not going to provide an argument other than "B-b-but teh critics liked it!" you might as well not bother. Most critics aren't good enough at fighting games to determine whether or not they're competitive games. how do you know critics arent good enough at fighting games? :?[QUOTE="Yangire"]
Skill to master? Some guys picked up Mortal Kombat for a few weeks for the PDP National Tournament and got farther than actual MK fans. It might take fundimental skill to win in the game, but little to no skill/time is needed to learn characters. Recieved well? Depends on who you ask.
I agree that those games are bad, worse than MK9 but that only makes them worse than MK9.
DarkLink77
If you're not going to provide an argument other than "B-b-but teh critics liked it!" you might as well not bother. Most critics aren't good enough at fighting games to determine whether or not they're competitive games. how do you know critics arent good enough at fighting games? :? ...Seriously?[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="EggHeadMan"] critics disagree with you
EggHeadMan
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