What GeOW 3 can look like...potential Graphics King

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

I did.

EndorphinMaster

Ok. Whatever floats your boat.

[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]It's your argument, the burden is on you to prove your point not him.FIipMode

I did.

lol...what an exciting debate you guys are having.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

I did.

BURSTIIIFIRE

lol...what an exciting debate you guys are having.

Looks like someone needs reeducation in making an argument.

1. You make a statement.

2. You back up your statement with proof, like say a link or quote.

I saw a link that proved gears 2 copied uncharted's cover system, 1st proving that Cliff Bleszinski acknowledges that it is different from theirs and secondly proving that uncharted did not copy from gears.

http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/193328/gears-of-war-2-controls-inspired-by-uncharted/

Telling the other person to play both games, when they acknowledge that they have and have adequate knowledge of both games, does not count as proof. It's

about as good as sounding like a little kid whining that their ice cream cone fell on the floor.

Have fun debating :D

Looks like someone needs reeducation in making an argument.

1. You make a statement.

2. You back up your statement with proof, like say a link or quote.

I saw a link that proved gears 2 copied uncharted's cover system, 1st proving that Cliff Bleszinski acknowledges that it is different from theirs and secondly proving that uncharted did not copy from gears.

http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/193328/gears-of-war-2-controls-inspired-by-uncharted/

Telling the other person to play both games, when they acknowledge that they have and have adequate knowledge of both games, does not count as proof. It's

about as good as sounding like a little kid whining that their ice cream cone fell on the floor.

Have fun debating :D

silentkill62696

why wouldn't that be able to run on the 360?

lawlessx

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]why wouldn't that be able to run on the 360?

foxhound_fox

I just don't think it could make that kind of image quality, add some jaggies and lower texture res a little and I think it would be possible.

It's just a tech demo people. Remember CryEngine 2's tech demo a few years ago? And remember how different Crysis turned out relative to the tech demo? One thing that tech demos don't display is the framerate. It could be running at 15fps, but by no means acceptable gameplay wise.

[QUOTE="BURSTIIIFIRE"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] Nah you didn't.FIipMode

lol...what an exciting debate you guys are having.

Dude...have you even played either games? :lol:

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="BURSTIIIFIRE"]

lol...what an exciting debate you guys are having.

EndorphinMaster

Dude...have you even played either games? :lol:

[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] No its pretty boring, but its still fun to call people out on ridiculous claims and see if they can prove it.FIipMode

Dude...have you even played either games? :lol:

If you did, you would know that UC ripped off Gears's cover system.

Come back after you've played both.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

Dude...have you even played either games? :lol:

EndorphinMaster

If you did, you would know that UC ripped off Gears's cover system.

Come back after you've played both.

I don't think that looks much better than Crysis shots or video that I've seen. Also, while this is their tech demo, it isn't certain that they could reach this level of graphical fidelity on the consoles.masterpinky2000

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

So Epic wants to make Uncharted?

BURSTIIIFIRE

Aside from the graphics I am pretty sure Uncharted borrowed alot ofthings from GeOW.

They did, naughty dog said straight off the bat that they were inspired by gears of war. But those screens looks just like the second level in uncharted drakes fortune, where your walking through the jungle with Sully. I guess its nice seeing some color in a demonstration from epic, i really was starting to think those guys were color blind.

That looks awesome but I don't know if the 360 can handle that type of fine detail.

looks awesome...i'm always a little wary of tech demos, though.

looks awesome...i'm always a little wary of tech demos, though.

clone01

Yeah but even if Gears 3 comes close to that than it will become the best looking game on consoles.

360 will never produce anything that looks better that KZ2, or Uncharted 2. That's just how it is.

360 will never produce anything that looks better that KZ2, or Uncharted 2. That's just how it is.

leadernator

Alan wake. Didn't cows say the same about uncharted 1 as well?

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

360 will never produce anything that looks better that KZ2, or Uncharted 2. That's just how it is.

MC3887

Alan wake. Didn't cows say the same about uncharted 1 as well?

Sorry. That's a big fat NO.

So PC tech demo = Gears 3 now?

:lol:

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

360 will never produce anything that looks better that KZ2, or Uncharted 2. That's just how it is.

leadernator

Alan wake. Didn't cows say the same about uncharted 1 as well?

Sorry. That's a big fat NO.

in your opinion...please stop trying to relay your opinion as fact...IMO i think Halo reach looks technically superior to UC2 and KZ2 along with Alan Wake

So PC tech demo = Gears 3 now?

:lol:

lucky_star

That's exactly what I thought...

sorry for being a party pooper but, the cryengine 2 still looks better than thisSolid_Tango

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

Alan wake. Didn't cows say the same about uncharted 1 as well?

marcuskickass

Sorry. That's a big fat NO.

in your opinion...please stop trying to relay your opinion as fact...IMO i think Halo reach looks technically superior to UC2 and KZ2 along with Alan Wake

Judging by what we've seen so far... it actually is a fact. Sorry.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"] Yea since UE3 runs so good on ps3/s

Bus-A-Bus

Are you freakin out of your mind?Spus have been used for 3 yrs now by 3rd party developers.Just go to b3d,actual devs there say that they use spus for skinning,triangle culling and some post processing(that was in 2007).If you want ps3 games to run and look like 360 you HAVE to use spus.Its no secret that everybody uses them.You guys think that devs are left with 3-4 spus for helping rsx but that is such a stupidity...ppu does nothin in ps3,it gives job to spus,so you have to run all your cpu code from 6 spus and you also have to help rss.What you think,how many of them are left for it?Since 3 core cpu in 360 will be pretty much maxed to its limits with Crysis 2,they will probably use 5 spus for physics,a.i,sound...they are lucky if they are left with one spu for skinning and culling,and one for post processing.

Get back to earth,there is not 15 of them,there is 6 and they must do cpu job,and they are not as strong as ppu,so you will have to use more of them then you would use ppus in 360.

NV RSX (G70 variant) has less features and it's less flexible than ATI Xenos, hence it's need for SPE support.

With ATI Xenos (and unified shaders GPU design in general), a programmer can cull a vertex data with a pixel kill instruction.

On G8X vs G7X and Early-Z compare features, also read http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_37100.html.

For culls,ATI Xenos includes Early-Z pass(1) andHierarchical Z buffer.

1. http://www.generation-nt.com/us/beyond3d-article-ati-xenos-graphics-processor-xbox-360-help-38668732.html