What Has Sony Introduced to the Online Space That They Haven't Copied From MS?

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#1 KittenWishes
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Xbox LIVE has been a service since 2002, so Sony has had 8 years to improve/surpass Xbox LIVE yet year after year all they do is play follow the leader and wait for Microsoft to innovate the online space. I can't think of a single innovation Sony has made, in fact, there are still features the PSN lacks or have just recently added.

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#2 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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Does Microsoft have anything similar to Home?
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Free online play.
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Does Microsoft have anything similar to Home?Stevo_the_gamer
Does Second Life on Windows count? (lol) I suppose the Classic Game Room has vague similarities, but Home is hardly an original application. I can only imagine how horrendous it would be with screaming 13 year old XBL users O_O
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Free online play.IronBass
Wii, PC, etc.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Does Microsoft have anything similar to Home?KittenWishes
Does Second Life on Windows count? (lol) I suppose the Classic Game Room has vague similarities, but Home is hardly an original application. I can only imagine how horrendous it would be with screaming 13 year old XBL users O_O

You know that anything released on Windows has NOTHING to do with MS right? MS doesn't own PC gaming as some lemmings loves to believe. Windows itself is an open platform which means MS makes 0 profit from other software (games, apps etc.).
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Does Microsoft have anything similar to Home?KittenWishes
Does Second Life on Windows count? (lol) I suppose the Classic Game Room has vague similarities, but Home is hardly an original application. I can only imagine how horrendous it would be with screaming 13 year old XBL users O_O

how does second life have anything to do with sony copying microsoft?
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They introduced Ps Home. I don't think you thought this thread through TC.

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Xbox LIVE has been a service since 2002, so Sony has had 8 years to improve/surpass Xbox LIVE yet year after year all they do is play follow the leader and wait for Microsoft to innovate the online space. I can't think of a single innovation Sony has made, in fact, there are still features the PSN lacks or have just recently added.

KittenWishes
Yes, Sony should have surpassed XBL by now because we all know that MS hasnt altered XBL at all in those 8 years.
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Wii, PC, etc.KittenWishes
Still not on Live.
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#11 Sollet
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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]Wii, PC, etc.IronBass
Still not on Live.

Sony obviously copied free online from those other two !!
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#12 0rin
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This just in, Microsoft invented online multiplayer, chat features, and basically the internet in general. Anything else is just a microsoft clone! don't buy the lies! Or, you know, we could live in the real world, and realize the PC had it all way before MS even conceived XBL.
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Xbox LIVE has been a service since 2002, so Sony has had 8 years to improve/surpass Xbox LIVE yet year after year all they do is play follow the leader and wait for Microsoft to innovate the online space. I can't think of a single innovation Sony has made, in fact, there are still features the PSN lacks or have just recently added.

KittenWishes

web browser.

we're comparing xbox livea and psn here, not on other platforms so stop making excuses.

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#14 KittenWishes
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I can think of a few things Sony have openly ripped off of Microsoft; - Achievements/Gamerscore - Gamercards - Recent Player List - Reputation System - Marketplace ratings - Zune streaming service - Xbox Originals - Retail game store - In-game Guide ...and more..
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Dedicated Servers on Consoles. Open Network/ Non-Restricted Network (Valve loves PSN because Sony doesn't mandate what goes into there game Ex. you don't have to have cross game invites if you don't want it in your game yet some games do).
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Psn has a reputation system??
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Dedicated Servers on Consoles. Open Network/ Non-Restricted Network (Valve loves PSN because Sony doesn't mandate what goes into there game Ex. you don't have to have cross game invites if you don't want it in your game yet some games do).Nonstop-Madness
yeah, XBL has dedicated servers for some games too, its up to the publisher. the vast majority of PSN games do not use dedicated servers.
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Dedicated Servers on Consoles. Open Network/ Non-Restricted Network (Valve loves PSN because Sony doesn't mandate what goes into there game Ex. you don't have to have cross game invites if you don't want it in your game yet some games do).Nonstop-Madness
Dedicated Servers were on consoles before, and only a handful of PS3 games have dedicated servers. Hell, Black Hawk Down (50 players) and Battlefield (24) both on XBOX (1) had dedicated servers.
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I can think of a few things Sony have openly ripped off of Microsoft;

- Achievements/Gamerscore

- Gamercards

- Recent Player List

- Reputation System

- Marketplace ratings

- Zune streaming service

- Xbox Originals

- Retail game store

- In-game Guide ...and more..KittenWishes

MS weren't the first to do any of those things except Zune Streaming Service.

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Well they have Home even though its a failure IMO and a Non restricted network.

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sony hasnt copied 360'6 crappy hardware to cut cost in production and make it easy to pirate games yet
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I can think of a few things Sony have openly ripped off of Microsoft;

- Xbox Originals KittenWishes

That is massively wrong. PS1 games were available on the Store before Xbox Originals and support hasn't been dropped. Remote Play, unlimited free accounts, etc.

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#23 After_Math
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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]

I can think of a few things Sony have openly ripped off of Microsoft;

- Achievements/Gamerscore

- Gamercards

- Recent Player List

- Reputation System

- Marketplace ratings

- Zune streaming service

- Xbox Originals

- Retail game store

- In-game Guide ...and more..Nonstop-Madness

MS weren't the first to do any of those things except Zune Streaming Service.

You should debunk the myth then. As far as I know, Microsoft was the first to make a unified system, where every game had achievements, players created there own gamercard/identity, every player you play can be rated, etc.
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Well they have Home even though its a failure IMO and a Non restricted network.

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Failure to the hardcore maybe but not overall, its used quite a bit.

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I can think of a few things Sony have openly ripped off of Microsoft; - Xbox Originals - Retail game store - ..KittenWishes

Umm sony had full games like burnot before MS started to do it and PS1 orginals have been aorund before too. So yea.

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#26 After_Math
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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]I can think of a few things Sony have openly ripped off of Microsoft;

- Xbox Originals Floppy_Jim

That is massively wrong. PS1 games were available on the Store before Xbox Originals and support hasn't been dropped. Remote Play, unlimited free accounts, etc.

Unlimited Free Accounts are on the 360 too.
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[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

Well they have Home even though its a failure IMO and a Non restricted network.

FIipMode

Failure to the hardcore maybe but not overall, its used quite a bit.

Yea sony makes money out of home and alot of people do use it. Its not like its a ghost town.

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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]I can think of a few things Sony have openly ripped off of Microsoft; - Xbox Originals - Retail game store - ..finalfantasy94

Umm sony had full games like burnot before MS started to do it and PS1 orginals have been aorund before too. So yea.

One game? lol...
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]I can think of a few things Sony have openly ripped off of Microsoft;

- Xbox Originals After_Math

That is massively wrong. PS1 games were available on the Store before Xbox Originals and support hasn't been dropped. Remote Play, unlimited free accounts, etc.

Unlimited Free Accounts are on the 360 too.

For playing online I mean.
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Xbox Live was hardly something original to begin with outside of being a unified multiplayer on a console..
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]I can think of a few things Sony have openly ripped off of Microsoft; - Xbox Originals - Retail game store - ..KittenWishes

Umm sony had full games like burnot before MS started to do it and PS1 orginals have been aorund before too. So yea.

One game? lol...

THe whole point of topic is who did it first 360 or PS3. So according to that rule PS3 did it. I mean if you not going to follow your own rule then why make it.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Does Microsoft have anything similar to Home?KittenWishes
Does Second Life on Windows count? (lol) I suppose the Classic Game Room has vague similarities, but Home is hardly an original application. I can only imagine how horrendous it would be with screaming 13 year old XBL users O_O

last time i was on home was way back at launch even at that me and my mates just kinda used it as an extended chatroom tbh nothing else really at that time it was pretty basic there werent even spaces for companies yet that tells you how long ago it is.To an extent XBL was later to the party with the whole avatar idea as it was 2 features sony and Ninty had on show for a while before respective console lanuch, the problem with home is its under delivered on its promises (im still waiting on a trophy room xD)

Also to an extent PS+ is diffrent from XBL aswell as its pay for a sub for content that you could pay for if you wanted or you can just rent it out basically using PS+ bit like Lovefilm.

But MS set the trend with console online gaming so sure companies will copy the basic gist of it and put their own spin on it look at music over the years especially metal how its spun off so much from its roots :P all because people adapted the basic content and put their own twists on it.

And is second life made by Microsoft? last time i checked it wasnt.

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Xbox Live was hardly something original to begin with outside of being a unified multiplayer on a console.. sSubZerOo
If Xbox Live had not existed PSN would be nothing. As a matter of fact Sony didnt really care about the online stuff so much untill they saw what was happening with MS.

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#35 KittenWishes
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Xbox Live was hardly something original to begin with outside of being a unified multiplayer on a console.. sSubZerOo
Well you just contradicted yourself.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Xbox Live was hardly something original to begin with outside of being a unified multiplayer on a console.. vaderhater

If Xbox Live had not existed PSN would be nothing. As a matter of fact Sony didnt really care about the online stuff so much untill they saw what was happening with MS.

That shows competition is great for the consumer. Thats one thing I thank MS for. Sony wouldint be trying as hard if live wasint such a hit. Now thanks to that I have my psn.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Xbox Live was hardly something original to begin with outside of being a unified multiplayer on a console.. KittenWishes
Well you just contradicted yourself.

Dreamcast says hi and its online predates the one on the xbox :P i remember casts online well so many hours wasted over at my mates house till we both ended up being PS2 whores and i bought an Xbox for halo aswell cause i got good results lol xD.

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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Xbox Live was hardly something original to begin with outside of being a unified multiplayer on a console.. razgriz_101

Well you just contradicted yourself.

Dreamcast says hi and its online predates the one on the xbox :P i remember casts online well so many hours wasted over at my mates house till we both ended up being PS2 whores and i bought an Xbox for halo aswell cause i got good results lol xD.

Yes I had a Dreamcast, but come on, the online pales in comparison to XBL or PSN for that matter :P We can attribute standardised online console gaming, cross platform gaming and console DLC to the Dreamcast.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Xbox Live was hardly something original to begin with outside of being a unified multiplayer on a console.. vaderhater

If Xbox Live had not existed PSN would be nothing. As a matter of fact Sony didnt really care about the online stuff so much untill they saw what was happening with MS.

PSN may not be what it is today if Xbox live did not exist... but where did you get "Sony didnt really care about the online stuff so much..." from?

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Xbox Live was hardly something original to begin with outside of being a unified multiplayer on a console.. KittenWishes
Well you just contradicted yourself.

I am not sure how that is original.. It was the next logical step.. Like a game going from 2d to 3d.. Systems like that already existed on the pc in which a network was created.. But feature wise and the like it was hardly original. This isn'ta bad thing, I consider it to be the superior over PSN in every way possible.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Xbox Live was hardly something original to begin with outside of being a unified multiplayer on a console.. vaderhater

If Xbox Live had not existed PSN would be nothing. As a matter of fact Sony didnt really care about the online stuff so much untill they saw what was happening with MS.

I doubt that.. It was the next logical step especially when MMO's were so popular and what not..

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PS home, but it's horrible...
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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]

I can think of a few things Sony have openly ripped off of Microsoft;

- Achievements/Gamerscore

- Gamercards

- Recent Player List

- Reputation System

- Marketplace ratings

- Zune streaming service

- Xbox Originals

- Retail game store

- In-game Guide ...and more..Nonstop-Madness

MS weren't the first to do any of those things except Zune Streaming Service.

Zune sux though, just like any other hardware MS made imo!
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[QUOTE="mysterj"] Zune sux though, just like any other hardware MS made imo!

Zune is a stellar media device, I'm not sure what makes you think it sucks.
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[QUOTE="mysterj"] Zune sux though, just like any other hardware MS made imo!Stevo_the_gamer
Zune is a stellar media device, I'm not sure what makes you think it sucks.

Zune was pretty poor at its introduction but its vastely improved.. But yet again its seen as crap simply because every MUST have a ipod, iphone etc etc..Even when the apple product is more expensive and inferior.

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[QUOTE="mysterj"] Zune sux though, just like any other hardware MS made imo!Stevo_the_gamer
Zune is a stellar media device, I'm not sure what makes you think it sucks.

cause MS dont sell it here YET its been delayed more times than GT5 here LMFAO.Whats so hard MS:( i really want an upgrade for my gogear but i might bite the bullet and get a Zen those are nice little pieces of kit.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="mysterj"] Zune sux though, just like any other hardware MS made imo!sSubZerOo

Zune is a stellar media device, I'm not sure what makes you think it sucks.

Zune was pretty poor at its introduction but its vastely improved.. But yet again its seen as crap simply because every MUST have a ipod, iphone etc etc..Even when the apple product is more expensive and inferior.

Haha, call me what you will, but what is Zune? I get the very basic concept of it, but can someone explain exactly what it is?

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cause MS dont sell it here YET its been delayed more times than GT5 here LMFAO.Whats so hard MS:( i really want an upgrade for my gogear but i might bite the bullet and get a Zen those are nice little pieces of kit.

razgriz_101

To be fair, you can buy Zunes online and have them shipped to the UK. Can't you?

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Haha, call me what you will, but what is Zune? I get the very basic concept of it, but can someone explain exactly what it is?

_Matt_

This is a Zune.

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As far as online integration, Sony did make remote play PS3 to PSP:

For those who believed online gaming started with Xbox, :lol: @ U.

Dreamcast started online console gaming. Still PSN would still be AS IS if Live didn't grow, Sony would've gotten ideas from PC gaming instead.