What if all 3 consoles were Motion-sensing Next-Gen?

No, I don't think the Wiimote is better than the KB+M. No, I do not defend Nintendo to the death, you should know better than that.:roll: And no, science and video games are not the same thing. However, when you apply the philosophy against the Wiimote to science, the borderline stupidity of that philosophy becomes clear. The most ridiculous thing about this is the assumption that motion controls cannot get better.

789shadow

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[QUOTE="RandolphScott"] Strawman. Your argument is flaccid and hollow.RandolphScott

It's one-pronged, which is the only prong neccessary, because I believe this is the basis of the entie argument.

Whatever, have a nice day.

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In the same place where the $40+ million budget Wii FPS are. Also, Metroid Prime is AAA quality.

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No, I don't think the Wiimote is better than the KB+M. No, I do not defend Nintendo to the death, you should know better than that.:roll: And no, science and video games are not the same thing. However, when you apply the philosophy against the Wiimote to science, the borderline stupidity of that philosophy becomes clear. The most ridiculous thing about this is the assumption that motion controls cannot get better.

Aljosa23

And this thread is about motion controls next gen. You're assuming that motion controls then will be the exact same as they are now. To describe that in a word, absurd. Hey, that rhymes.:P

[QUOTE="Soulja_West"][QUOTE="loco145"] The Wii mote is better than dual analog for FPS and RTS for a start (we are talking about consoles here). Also, this is the first version. I would expect improvements for the next generation. And as a retired WoW hardcore (Gladiator and Kill'Jaeden killer) I lol to all those consolites wanting a wow port.

789shadow

This is in theory.

And this thread is about motion controls next gen. You're assuming that motion controls then will be the exact same as they are now. To describe that in a word, absurd. Hey, that rhymes.:P

789shadow

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And this thread is about motion controls next gen. You're assuming that motion controls then will be the exact same as they are now. To describe that in a word, absurd. Hey, that rhymes.:P

Aljosa23

And motion controls won't always be like the Wiimote, so there. It's stupid to abandon a concept if the first try is a failure. It'd be like Edison giving up on the lightbulb because his first attempt at making one failed.

Switch to full PC gaming.

Motion-sensing will turn old just like any old craze, but brain-control will be leading innovation

2 points that will make it a success

1. It looks and feels cool

2. It will cater to all the lazy-ass gamers out there......possible mind-control dating service aswell (lol)

I didn't know metroid prime was a fps?Soulja_West

How is not a FPS? but don't de-rail the thread.

[QUOTE="Soulja_West"] I didn't know metroid prime was a fps?loco145

How is not a FPS? but don't de-rail the thread.

Not enough enemies, far too unlinear levels, the controls.

I think people need to be prepared for PS4 and 720 using motion controls. Go back and look at all Nintendo consoles...

1. NES (D-pad, became standard control schemefor Genesis, SNES)

2. SNES (L and R shoulder buttons. This has been utilized in the following gens.)

3. N64 (analog control. Now used as a standard. Introduced the rumble pak later on in the console's lifecycle. Now rumble is a standard)

4. GCN (wavebird. first console wireless controller that worked nearly perfectly. Now wireless is the standard.)

5. Wii (motion contols. Motion controls standard for 720 and PS4? Looks like a real possibility...)

Id be disappointed because it might make the game industry take a complete take backwards. Instead of improving on graphics, AI, and thinking of new game scenarios, companies would be spending mroe time next-gen perfecting the motion-controls than continuing on the path they've been making. Yeah, it has its faults, and we're on the point where games are reaching copy/paste designs. But it's happened in the industry before! Look at the SNES era or the N64 era! So many games tried the platformer formula, so I don't see why people complain about shooters being overdone. Trends happen, and I think with time we'll see something new. But please, let's not take a step backwards!

Id be disappointed because it might make the game industry take a complete take backwards. Instead of improving on graphics, AI, and thinking of new game scenarios, companies would be spending mroe time next-gen perfecting the motion-controls than continuing on the path they've been making. Yeah, it has its faults, and we're on the point where games are reaching copy/paste designs. But it's happened in the industry before! Look at the SNES era or the N64 era! So many games tried the platformer formula, so I don't see why people complain about shooters being overdone. Trends happen, and I think with time we'll see something new. But please, let's not take a step backwards!

D00nut

And all that can't happen while motion controls are improved? What? Why is it always assumed that only one thing can be improved at a time?

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Id be disappointed because it might make the game industry take a complete take backwards. Instead of improving on graphics, AI, and thinking of new game scenarios, companies would be spending mroe time next-gen perfecting the motion-controls than continuing on the path they've been making. Yeah, it has its faults, and we're on the point where games are reaching copy/paste designs. But it's happened in the industry before! Look at the SNES era or the N64 era! So many games tried the platformer formula, so I don't see why people complain about shooters being overdone. Trends happen, and I think with time we'll see something new. But please, let's not take a step backwards!

789shadow

And all that can't happen while motion controls are improved? What? Why is it always assumed that only one thing can be improved at a time?

lol at how people are assuming motion controls = casual games. With something as precise as wii motion plus there is an opportunity for games to move forward, of course I would like at least one company to keep the traditional method but its about time the gaming industry met some change, why motion controls, ccome on devs, SUPRISE ME

i'd buy all three and a really big shot-gun if you know what i mean

I am a Nintendo Supporter so i dont want the PS3 and 360 to have something Nintendo created EpiphoneMan2008

lol at how people are assuming motion controls = casual games. With something as precise as wii motion plus there is an opportunity for games to move forward, of course I would like at least one company to keep the traditional method but its about time the gaming industry met some change, why motion controls, ccome on devs, SUPRISE ME

alia999

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lol at how people are assuming motion controls = casual games. With something as precise as wii motion plus there is an opportunity for games to move forward, of course I would like at least one company to keep the traditional method but its about time the gaming industry met some change, why motion controls, ccome on devs, SUPRISE ME

12345678ew

Woah Woah, stop right there, I had no idea anyone here had played with the WiMotionPlus yet. I mean what with IGN and Gamespot commenting on JUST how accurate the 1:1 controls were, I didnt think thay good old 12345678ew (nice username btw) would disagree. Oh this changes everything...

For gods sake, Are you so scared of any sign of change in an industry? I said, there should still be at least one traditional control console, besides, like I saidm Id rather something completely new came out, if the industry weren't to change, where are the improvements oing to come from? graphics? well they arent gonna get much better, If you're so afraid of going 3cm away from the status quo then fine, have your way, just dont buy anything new that changes things, its your choice.

As long as I could use alternative controls, such as with the classic controller on the Wii, I could accept it.

I would have however much the consoles cost extra to spend on upgrades for my computer.

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Id be disappointed because it might make the game industry take a complete take backwards. Instead of improving on graphics, AI, and thinking of new game scenarios, companies would be spending mroe time next-gen perfecting the motion-controls than continuing on the path they've been making. Yeah, it has its faults, and we're on the point where games are reaching copy/paste designs. But it's happened in the industry before! Look at the SNES era or the N64 era! So many games tried the platformer formula, so I don't see why people complain about shooters being overdone. Trends happen, and I think with time we'll see something new. But please, let's not take a step backwards!

D00nut

And all that can't happen while motion controls are improved? What? Why is it always assumed that only one thing can be improved at a time?

Do you really have that little faith in developers?

[QUOTE="EpiphoneMan2008"]I am a Nintendo Supporter so i dont want the PS3 and 360 to have something Nintendo created 12345678ew

Your insane to believe that.......... Nintendo CREATED the Motion Controles that Sony and Possibly M$ will be stealing next GEN

[QUOTE="12345678ew"][QUOTE="EpiphoneMan2008"]I am a Nintendo Supporter so i dont want the PS3 and 360 to have something Nintendo created EpiphoneMan2008

Your insane to believe that.......... Nintendo CREATED the Motion Controles that Sony and Possibly M$ will be stealing next GEN

And your credibility is gone when you say "M$".

The traditional controller method is an extremely strong part of gaming. It won't disappear anytime soon.

Quit Console Gaming all together and move on to PC Gaming.........the ONLY true hardcore gaming market, imo. ;)

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I would be a PC-only gamer.

789shadow

Note to self: hardcore gamers hate anything new.

= PC Exclusive

I dont even think Sony or MS will go the console route next gen. They will follow OnLive with a streaming service. Thats the future and where the money is. Nintendo will probably release another console because they are so behind with the times

That would kinda suck

I like the Wii, but I could not have that as my primary gaming outlet

As long as they keep making great games, I can adjust.

I'd buy one of the consoles, but probably end up using my PC as my primary gaming source. Kinda like how some people are using their 360/PS3 as their main console and Wii as a side console.Faber_Fighter

i use the Wii as my main and then my pc as something to do when i am extremely bored!

PS i LOVE that sig of yours! ;)

[QUOTE="bleehum"] Would stop console gaming and shift all focus to PC gaming.jarvis008

Same here. I really hope this doesn't happen.

I would get a new gaming rig, and go PC only. unless it is like the PS3. I have yet to play a game with sixaxis controls that get in my way/arent optional. Sony hit the "perfect" happy medium with SIXAXIS. I hope they keep it next gen, too. but if it's anything like the wii, i'd abandon consoles all together untill the manufacturers pulled their heads from their wallets.0rin

Unless the motion sensing truely impraces something we might see in a future science fiction movie(motion sensing doesn't always means something like the Wii-mote), then no, I'll stay in PC gaming. Although I like some of the Wii games(mostly first party titles) and the way Nintendo adapts the controller to some of their games I still see it as a gimmick, as of now.

Unsurprisingly, the most popular response here will be "Quit gaming". So sad.:roll:

789shadow

Funny that self-labeled `hardcore' would even consider this an option. I thought they were the ones that loved gaming most intensely and were demanding improvements in graphics, sound, gameplay, etc. Guess the casuals are the `real gamers' ....

It's obvious that many only played with motion sensing games around release - and have missed some games in the last year. I'm thinking about PES, Boom Blox] that use motion well - to think that every game needs motion sensing is idiotic [and those developers who try to force it where it's not needed, also idiotic].

Good games will not force ANY control scheme into a place it doesn't fit. I don't see games utilizing the balance board that don't need it - and would think within a year or a few that motion won't be tacked onto where it doesn't belong. But to say that some games don't benefit significantly from motion ignores those games completely ...

They better be 1:1 then :/

I don't want to waggle and dance my way to victory.

I do want to be able to point and click (rts issue: solved).

That about sums it up.

I will move onto PC gaming lol

but im sure thats not gona happen :?