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And where exactly are the games? I love how everyone nowadays thinks that having more options on systems is better than having quality games... SighKojak8888
One world for Apple entering games: FLOP.XGuNn3rX
Apple would flop! HUGE! There is no place for 4 systems, just ask Sega about it.Vojkan80001
it would suck...simple as that.2scoopsofempty
It'd probably be alot like the PS3 but good looking and less support.das_beckAre you being serious? Apple consistantly scores in the top couple companies regarding customer support. I knew it wouldn't fail that someone would pull the "Apple sucks because they suck" argument. I love the validity of that :roll:
[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"]it would suck...simple as that.musicalmac
It'd probably be alot like the PS3 but good looking and less support.das_beckAre you being serious? Apple consistantly scores in the top couple companies regarding customer support. I knew it wouldn't fail that someone would pull the "Apple sucks because they suck" argument. I love the validity of that :roll:
the only reason why apple is even still around is because of the ipod.
[QUOTE="XGuNn3rX"]One world for Apple entering games: FLOP.Philosoma
OK--Apple DID try to enter the game console market---Voted one of the 25 worst products of all time
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 http://pcworld.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,125772,pg,6,00.asp
[QUOTE="Kojak8888"]And where exactly are the games? I love how everyone nowadays thinks that having more options on systems is better than having quality games... SighPhilosoma
[QUOTE="Philosoma"][QUOTE="XGuNn3rX"]One world for Apple entering games: FLOP.XGuNn3rX
[QUOTE="Vojkan80001"]Apple would flop! HUGE! There is no place for 4 systems, just ask Sega about it.Philosoma
[QUOTE="Philosoma"][QUOTE="XGuNn3rX"]One world for Apple entering games: FLOP.Tony_aaaa
OK--Apple DID try to enter the game console market---Voted one of the 25 worst products of all time
.-#22
http://pcworld.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,125772,pg,6,00.asp
That's awesome! Wow, I didn't know that Apple actually tried! Thanks for that scoop - anyway, so if Apple knows that it can't make a console, will it make software or join up with Sony or Nintendo? It would be a big move and having the brand name of Apple going along with your console could only be good.
What if Apple got into the business? Think about these scenarios, if you will -
Apple creates an Iphone-ish product that can play simple "cell-phone type" and online flash type games. Minesweeper, Tetris, maybe something like Snood. Hmmm...
Apple joins with some ex-console making company, like Sega, and creates a new handheld system that is different than the DS but much like the PSP. Its major functionality is the ability to play games (better than PSP quality), stream audio and video, browse online, and has a 60gb harddrive. They call it the Igame and it (somehow lol) has just as much third party support as DS and PSP.
Apple creates a peripheral that attaches their Ipod product lines to the Wii-mote and allows streaming audio and video to be played on the Wii. Software is included and allows customized soundtracks during gameplay, music sharing, and stores Mii information as well as achievements for Wii games into the Ipod product. They call it Wii-tunes.
Apple creates a network lobby much like PSHome that allows people to chat, blog, post audio and video, and share files and music. It is co-developed with Nintendo and uses the Miis as the avatars. The software can also be installed on PCs and allows access to the network lobby anywhere. They call it Itown.
What do you think? Apple seems to be doing pretty well - think they might want to get into the videogame world for more action?
Philosoma
I think Apple is good at two things, software/hardware integration and marketing. Whether you prefer a mac over a PC or not, you have to admit the overall package Apple delivers is solid. The software is specifically designed for the hardware and developing on a closed platform allows for the kind of cohesiveness most PCs don't have. Also, you have to agree they know how to market their products. Even if the majority of their I'm a mac & I'm a PC commericals are silly and misleading, they are fun to watch at least by computer company commerical standards.
Will Apple enter the gaming world? Prolly not till Steve Jobs has left the company, he has already expressed that he's really not interested in games. Do I think they should? Only if they were to work with Nintendo. Like all Apple products they will be costlier than most other options. So creating a competitor for whatever Sony and MS put out would prolly involve a cost almost no one could justify. But if they worked with Nintendo to create a console of a different breed, much like the Wii is in comparision, it could work.
A handheld is prolly the best way to go. That market is pretty small, Nintendo has always dominated, and as much as I like my PSP, it's never gonna outsell Nintendo. In the portable gaming market they could easily steal share from Sony. Again, while I like my PSP, it's nowhere near as easy to use as my ipod. Sure it does more, but the multimedia aspects are harder to use than they shold be. If the PSP had a maager like itunes, I garuntee more people would consider it.
A peripheral? Most of Apples extra, kind of suck. I mean they are functional but their keyboards and mighty mouse are no where near the best available and cost as much as high end gaming peripherals. Besides to create a truly revolutionary device, you really need to understand all the aspects of gaming. Remember the obmination of a controller the origional xbox shipped with? Now the 360 controller is a true testiment to how much MS has learned in the last 4 or 5 years.
The network lobby seems likely, but only if something like Windows Live catches on. Apple is not a game centric orginization, so it would most likely focus on conectivity and community. Sure there would be games, but simple games, like cards and chess. Out of all the ideas you proposed this sound the most like Apple. They always state that their trying to make everything easier and bring people together.
I'd like to see a Apple, Nintendo collabiration. Something where Nintendo games are made available to mac owners exclusively. This would extend Nintendos market further, as most mac users are non-gamers or casuals, after all this is what Nintendo is trying to do with the Wii. At the same time, it may give people a reason to buy a mac, that would like to play games more advanced than solitaire, but can't really see buying a console.
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it's a very real possibility.
Apple has changed its name, dropping the "Computer" from it and reestablishing themselves as a consumer electronics giant.
personally, it's only a matter of time... When they do, they'll go directly for sony...the other consumer electronics giant ....
this will leave MS, Ninty and Apple.... sounds like a good combo...
[QUOTE="Philosoma"]What if Apple got into the business? Think about these scenarios, if you will -
Apple creates an Iphone-ish product that can play simple "cell-phone type" and online flash type games. Minesweeper, Tetris, maybe something like Snood. Hmmm...
Apple joins with some ex-console making company, like Sega, and creates a new handheld system that is different than the DS but much like the PSP. Its major functionality is the ability to play games (better than PSP quality), stream audio and video, browse online, and has a 60gb harddrive. They call it the Igame and it (somehow lol) has just as much third party support as DS and PSP.
Apple creates a peripheral that attaches their Ipod product lines to the Wii-mote and allows streaming audio and video to be played on the Wii. Software is included and allows customized soundtracks during gameplay, music sharing, and stores Mii information as well as achievements for Wii games into the Ipod product. They call it Wii-tunes.
Apple creates a network lobby much like PSHome that allows people to chat, blog, post audio and video, and share files and music. It is co-developed with Nintendo and uses the Miis as the avatars. The software can also be installed on PCs and allows access to the network lobby anywhere. They call it Itown.
What do you think? Apple seems to be doing pretty well - think they might want to get into the videogame world for more action?
michaelareb0001
I think Apple is good at two things, software/hardware integration and marketing. Whether you prefer a mac over a PC or not, you have to admit the overall package Apple delivers is solid. The software is specifically designed for the hardware and developing on a closed platform allows for the kind of cohesiveness most PCs don't have. Also, you have to agree they know how to market their products. Even if the majority of their I'm a mac & I'm a PC commericals are silly and misleading, they are fun to watch at least by computer company commerical standards.
Will Apple enter the gaming world? Prolly not till Steve Jobs has left the company, he has already expressed that he's really not interested in games. Do I think they should? Only if they were to work with Nintendo. Like all Apple products they will be costlier than most other options. So creating a competitor for whatever Sony and MS put out would prolly involve a cost almost no one could justify. But if they worked with Nintendo to create a console of a different breed, much like the Wii is in comparision, it could work.
A handheld is prolly the best way to go. That market is pretty small, Nintendo has always dominated, and as much as I like my PSP, it's never gonna outsell Nintendo. In the portable gaming market they could easily steal share from Sony. Again, while I like my PSP, it's nowhere near as easy to use as my ipod. Sure it does more, but the multimedia aspects are harder to use than they shold be. If the PSP had a maager like itunes, I garuntee more people would consider it.
A peripheral? Most of Apples extra, kind of suck. I mean they are functional but their keyboards and mighty mouse are no where near the best available and cost as much as high end gaming peripherals. Besides to create a truly revolutionary device, you really need to understand all the aspects of gaming. Remember the obmination of a controller the origional xbox shipped with? Now the 360 controller is a true testiment to how much MS has learned in the last 4 or 5 years.
The network lobby seems likely, but only if something like Windows Live catches on. Apple is not a game centric orginization, so it would most likely focus on conectivity and community. Sure there would be games, but simple games, like cards and chess. Out of all the ideas you proposed this sound the most like Apple. They always state that their trying to make everything easier and bring people together.
I'd like to see a Apple, Nintendo collabiration. Something where Nintendo games are made available to mac owners exclusively. This would extend Nintendos market further, as most mac users are non-gamers or casuals, after all this is what Nintendo is trying to do with the Wii. At the same time, it may give people a reason to buy a mac, that would like to play games more advanced than solitaire, but can't really see buying a console.
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There was talk of Apple and Nintendo becoming one not too long ago. Or, at least some sort of partnership being formed. If anything, Apple won't compete with M$, Sony, or Nintendo right off the bat. It would be, as I said before, casual games that everyone can enjoy. Nothing too serious. And, I have to mention this... the iPod didn't keep Apple alive, that would be the iMac. The iPod gave Apple the appearance they have today, and it helps carry their products to the inspired youth in MOST of us. I'm glad to be on their side of the fence, personally...If apple got into the game business people who wear tapered leg jeans, tight black t-shirts, and think rimmed glasses while driving their jettas would have a system to use for games.Huff
[QUOTE="Huff"]If apple got into the game business people who wear tapered leg jeans, tight black t-shirts, and think rimmed glasses while driving their jettas would have a system to use for games.SDog624
[QUOTE="Kojak8888"]And where exactly are the games? I love how everyone nowadays thinks that having more options on systems is better than having quality games... SighPhilosoma
[QUOTE="michaelareb0001"][QUOTE="Philosoma"]What if Apple got into the business? Think about these scenarios, if you will -
Apple creates an Iphone-ish product that can play simple "cell-phone type" and online flash type games. Minesweeper, Tetris, maybe something like Snood. Hmmm...
Apple joins with some ex-console making company, like Sega, and creates a new handheld system that is different than the DS but much like the PSP. Its major functionality is the ability to play games (better than PSP quality), stream audio and video, browse online, and has a 60gb harddrive. They call it the Igame and it (somehow lol) has just as much third party support as DS and PSP.
Apple creates a peripheral that attaches their Ipod product lines to the Wii-mote and allows streaming audio and video to be played on the Wii. Software is included and allows customized soundtracks during gameplay, music sharing, and stores Mii information as well as achievements for Wii games into the Ipod product. They call it Wii-tunes.
Apple creates a network lobby much like PSHome that allows people to chat, blog, post audio and video, and share files and music. It is co-developed with Nintendo and uses the Miis as the avatars. The software can also be installed on PCs and allows access to the network lobby anywhere. They call it Itown.
What do you think? Apple seems to be doing pretty well - think they might want to get into the videogame world for more action?
musicalmac
I think Apple is good at two things, software/hardware integration and marketing. Whether you prefer a mac over a PC or not, you have to admit the overall package Apple delivers is solid. The software is specifically designed for the hardware and developing on a closed platform allows for the kind of cohesiveness most PCs don't have. Also, you have to agree they know how to market their products. Even if the majority of their I'm a mac & I'm a PC commericals are silly and misleading, they are fun to watch at least by computer company commerical standards.
Will Apple enter the gaming world? Prolly not till Steve Jobs has left the company, he has already expressed that he's really not interested in games. Do I think they should? Only if they were to work with Nintendo. Like all Apple products they will be costlier than most other options. So creating a competitor for whatever Sony and MS put out would prolly involve a cost almost no one could justify. But if they worked with Nintendo to create a console of a different breed, much like the Wii is in comparision, it could work.
A handheld is prolly the best way to go. That market is pretty small, Nintendo has always dominated, and as much as I like my PSP, it's never gonna outsell Nintendo. In the portable gaming market they could easily steal share from Sony. Again, while I like my PSP, it's nowhere near as easy to use as my ipod. Sure it does more, but the multimedia aspects are harder to use than they shold be. If the PSP had a maager like itunes, I garuntee more people would consider it.
A peripheral? Most of Apples extra, kind of suck. I mean they are functional but their keyboards and mighty mouse are no where near the best available and cost as much as high end gaming peripherals. Besides to create a truly revolutionary device, you really need to understand all the aspects of gaming. Remember the obmination of a controller the origional xbox shipped with? Now the 360 controller is a true testiment to how much MS has learned in the last 4 or 5 years.
The network lobby seems likely, but only if something like Windows Live catches on. Apple is not a game centric orginization, so it would most likely focus on conectivity and community. Sure there would be games, but simple games, like cards and chess. Out of all the ideas you proposed this sound the most like Apple. They always state that their trying to make everything easier and bring people together.
I'd like to see a Apple, Nintendo collabiration. Something where Nintendo games are made available to mac owners exclusively. This would extend Nintendos market further, as most mac users are non-gamers or casuals, after all this is what Nintendo is trying to do with the Wii. At the same time, it may give people a reason to buy a mac, that would like to play games more advanced than solitaire, but can't really see buying a console.
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There was talk of Apple and Nintendo becoming one not too long ago. Or, at least some sort of partnership being formed. If anything, Apple won't compete with M$, Sony, or Nintendo right off the bat. It would be, as I said before, casual games that everyone can enjoy. Nothing too serious. And, I have to mention this... the iPod didn't keep Apple alive, that would be the iMac. The iPod gave Apple the appearance they have today, and it helps carry their products to the inspired youth in MOST of us. I'm glad to be on their side of the fence, personally...No if there was no such thing as the Apple Ipod apple would go down the drain. Simple as that, first off the IMAC is junk, just like the rest of MACs. They are very expensive and retarded systems that look good, thats all that MACS do. Beside M$ owns a portion of Apple so I dont think they would be allowed in the gaming market at all.
[QUOTE="Philosoma"][QUOTE="Kojak8888"]And where exactly are the games? I love how everyone nowadays thinks that having more options on systems is better than having quality games... Sighxscrapzx
I can tell by your reply that you're extremely educated on this subject. Thanks for another stellar contribution... (dribble much? :roll: )No if there was no such thing as the Apple Ipod apple would go down the drain. Simple as that, first off the IMAC is junk, just like the rest of MACs. They are very expensive and retarded systems that look good, thats all that MACS do. Beside M$ owns a portion of Apple so I dont think they would be allowed in the gaming market at all.
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And if you remember before the IPOD Apple was doing pretty bad money wise.xscrapzxLook it up- the iMac + Steve Jobs saved Apple. Not the iPod.
[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="Philosoma"][QUOTE="Kojak8888"]And where exactly are the games? I love how everyone nowadays thinks that having more options on systems is better than having quality games... Sighmusicalmac
And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming. Not technically where other games are at. Atleast thats what I get the casual from.xscrapzxAll I can say about this reply is " What?! " Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean... If that answers the previous post- you got me :lol:
[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming. Not technically where other games are at. Atleast thats what I get the casual from.musicalmacAll I can say about this reply is " What?! " Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean... If that answers the previous post- you got me :lol:
Well then basically my last post that I made is basically the answer to Casual games. Now why dont you look at this post that you made. You stated "Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War." Who in their right mind is going to pay money on a frigin game console that plays solitare, when they have it on their IPOD, or they can play it free on their computer. Thats my point, and thats why it wouldn't make sense to make a system like that at all, absolutely pointless:lol:
I don't know about the quality of the games/hardware, that depends on how much support from third parties it gets and how much funding they get. But the thing I know suits apple to the console market is the way that consoles have to look good in a way computers just don't. And when you think how well Microsoft have done so far I wouldn't be surprised if apple tried to do the same thing.
All I can say about this reply is " What?! " Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean... If that answers the previous post- you got me :lol:[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming. Not technically where other games are at. Atleast thats what I get the casual from.xscrapzx
Well then basically my last post that I made is basically the answer to Casual games. Now why dont you look at this post that you made. You stated "Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War." Who in their right mind is going to pay money on a frigin game console that plays solitare, when they have it on their IPOD, or they can play it free on their computer. Thats my point, and thats why it wouldn't make sense to make a system like that at all, absolutely pointless:lol:
:?... I think you're lost here. This post clearly outlines your lack of information regarding this thread, and the connection between Apple and gaming in general. Read earlier posts. Apple already has their hardware out. It's all about the software now.[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]All I can say about this reply is " What?! " Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean... If that answers the previous post- you got me :lol:[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming. Not technically where other games are at. Atleast thats what I get the casual from.musicalmac
Well then basically my last post that I made is basically the answer to Casual games. Now why dont you look at this post that you made. You stated "Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War." Who in their right mind is going to pay money on a frigin game console that plays solitare, when they have it on their IPOD, or they can play it free on their computer. Thats my point, and thats why it wouldn't make sense to make a system like that at all, absolutely pointless:lol:
:?... I think you're lost here. This post clearly outlines your lack of information regarding this thread, and the connection between Apple and gaming in general. Read earlier posts. Apple already has their hardware out. It's all about the software now.No I understand this post thoroughly but you are claiming that Mac should make a system that has casual games, hence your quote "Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean.." I'm simply stating that I think the video game market has plently of systems as is. I think that Apple should just stick with what they have and thats it. I think getting into the gaming market is too much, and would be stupid for them to do so. Why should there 18 consoles out there, its just too much. Thats why systems such as Jaguar, Neo Geo, 3DO and so forth, didnt last because of the expense and the fact that people arent going to own 15 gaming systems.
[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]All I can say about this reply is " What?! " Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean... If that answers the previous post- you got me :lol:[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming. Not technically where other games are at. Atleast thats what I get the casual from.xscrapzx
Well then basically my last post that I made is basically the answer to Casual games. Now why dont you look at this post that you made. You stated "Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War." Who in their right mind is going to pay money on a frigin game console that plays solitare, when they have it on their IPOD, or they can play it free on their computer. Thats my point, and thats why it wouldn't make sense to make a system like that at all, absolutely pointless:lol:
:?... I think you're lost here. This post clearly outlines your lack of information regarding this thread, and the connection between Apple and gaming in general. Read earlier posts. Apple already has their hardware out. It's all about the software now.No I understand this post thoroughly but you are claiming that Mac should make a system that has casual games, hence your quote "Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean.." I'm simply stating that I think the video game market has plently of systems as is. I think that Apple should just stick with what they have and thats it. I think getting into the gaming market is too much, and would be stupid for them to do so. Why should there 18 consoles out there, its just too much. Thats why systems such as Jaguar, Neo Geo, 3DO and so forth, didnt last because of the expense and the fact that people arent going to own 15 gaming systems.
Apple already has the hardware they need if they want to enter the casual gaming market. They're not going to compete with M$/Sony/Nintendo directly. Look up the Apple TV. Then you'll know what I'm talking about. You're arguing phantom issues that I'm not claiming responsibility for. I don't think they're going to make a gaming console. And just so we're clear, "Mac" is not a company. That would be Apple Inc.Please Log In to post.
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