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What if Apple got into the business? Think about these scenarios, if you will -

Apple creates an Iphone-ish product that can play simple "cell-phone type" and online flash type games. Minesweeper, Tetris, maybe something like Snood. Hmmm...


Apple joins with some ex-console making company, like Sega, and creates a new handheld system that is different than the DS but much like the PSP. Its major functionality is the ability to play games (better than PSP quality), stream audio and video, browse online, and has a 60gb harddrive. They call it the Igame and it (somehow lol) has just as much third party support as DS and PSP.


Apple creates a peripheral that attaches their Ipod product lines to the Wii-mote and allows streaming audio and video to be played on the Wii. Software is included and allows customized soundtracks during gameplay, music sharing, and stores Mii information as well as achievements for Wii games into the Ipod product. They call it Wii-tunes.


Apple creates a network lobby much like PSHome that allows people to chat, blog, post audio and video, and share files and music. It is co-developed with Nintendo and uses the Miis as the avatars. The software can also be installed on PCs and allows access to the network lobby anywhere. They call it Itown.

What do you think? Apple seems to be doing pretty well - think they might want to get into the videogame world for more action?
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And where exactly are the games? I love how everyone nowadays thinks that having more options on systems is better than having quality games... Sigh
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calm down
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there woulds be no cvustomizable charecters :p
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#6 GsSanAndreas
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They wud call it  Iconsole  and it would have no games and cost 799.99 and come with itunes
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#7 das_beck
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It'd probably be alot like the PS3 but good looking and less support.
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And where exactly are the games? I love how everyone nowadays thinks that having more options on systems is better than having quality games... SighKojak8888


You missed the point. Apple could very well get into gaming without actually having to develop games - they only need to get the attention of developers. Apple quickly dominated (still does) the MP3 market - I think that it would be wise of Apple to find a way to get into gaming.

If we said this about Microsoft in 1991 what would people think?
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Apple would flop! HUGE! There is no place for 4 systems, just ask Sega about it.
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it would suck...simple as that.
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#11 blackace
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I don't think Apple is interesting in the gaming market just yet. They are so successful with the I* products, they don't have time to design a unique game console and have developers program for it. I don't think there is room for 4 consoles in the market anyways.
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#12 Philosoma
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One world for Apple entering games: FLOP.XGuNn3rX


Care to elaborate?

Amazing how people said the same for Microsoft's Zune, the MP3 player - and the Zune isn't bad at all haha, I use it more than my Ipod and it is really sexy. I think that both companies can compete anywhere they want.
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It cud happen but not for a while, they got iPhone to focus on for a bit now.
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They're already doing just that. They've been hiring developers. Apple TV (the new product) and iTunes 7.1 (recently released) both have hidden code with cues that read, "Sync all games to Apple TV?" and so on. Nothing like a 360/PS3/Wii. They'll be for the most casual of gamers. I'd imagine.
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Apple would flop! HUGE! There is no place for 4 systems, just ask Sega about it.Vojkan80001


Sega was around long before most consoles, so I don't really see Sega's systems as the "4th" console. I don't think that Sega's Dreamcast flopped at all - it had amazing games - nonetheless, it isn't here anymore for other reasons, mainly marketing. Everybody thought that MS entering with a console, their Xbox, would flop too, but now look at them, MS is a gaming giant.
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it would suck...simple as that.2scoopsofempty
It'd probably be alot like the PS3 but good looking and less support.das_beck
Are you being serious? Apple consistantly scores in the top couple companies regarding customer support. I knew it wouldn't fail that someone would pull the "Apple sucks because they suck" argument. I love the validity of that :roll:
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]They're already doing just that. They've been hiring developers. Apple TV (the new product) and iTunes 7.1 (recently released) both have hidden code with cues that read, "Sync all games to Apple TV?" and so on. Nothing like a 360/PS3/Wii. They'll be for the most casual of gamers. I'd imagine.



I totally agree with you - they will focus on the casuals for this and their brand name is so powerful right now. I wouldn't be surprised if some people in the world call any MP3 player that they see an "Ipod" just because of the brand name prevalence.
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[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"]it would suck...simple as that.musicalmac
It'd probably be alot like the PS3 but good looking and less support.das_beck
Are you being serious? Apple consistantly scores in the top couple companies regarding customer support. I knew it wouldn't fail that someone would pull the "Apple sucks because they suck" argument. I love the validity of that :roll:

the only reason why apple is even still around is because of the ipod.

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[QUOTE="XGuNn3rX"]One world for Apple entering games: FLOP.Philosoma


Care to elaborate?

Amazing how people said the same for Microsoft's Zune, the MP3 player - and the Zune isn't bad at all haha, I use it more than my Ipod and it is really sexy. I think that both companies can compete anywhere they want.

OK--Apple DID try to enter the game console market---Voted one of the 25 worst products of all time

.-#22

 http://pcworld.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,125772,pg,6,00.asp

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[QUOTE="Kojak8888"]And where exactly are the games? I love how everyone nowadays thinks that having more options on systems is better than having quality games... SighPhilosoma


You missed the point. Apple could very well get into gaming without actually having to develop games - they only need to get the attention of developers. Apple quickly dominated (still does) the MP3 market - I think that it would be wise of Apple to find a way to get into gaming.

If we said this about Microsoft in 1991 what would people think?

Mabye they should start by wooing devs to develop for Macs? Er, I mean no! Terrible iDea! iDisapprove...iHate my iPod...should be called: iSuck.
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If apple got into the game business people who wear tapered leg jeans, tight black t-shirts, and think rimmed glasses while driving their jettas would have a system to use for games.
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#23 Philosoma
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[QUOTE="Philosoma"][QUOTE="XGuNn3rX"]One world for Apple entering games: FLOP.XGuNn3rX


Care to elaborate?

Amazing how people said the same for Microsoft's Zune, the MP3 player - and the Zune isn't bad at all haha, I use it more than my Ipod and it is really sexy. I think that both companies can compete anywhere they want.

Three's a crowd.



I can agree, as of now it seems a little too late but if Apple strictly goes with casual software or joins with Nintendo or something, they can still enter gaming and not actually have a system of their own. I think that Apple would be a big ally for either Sony or Nintendo.
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[QUOTE="Vojkan80001"]Apple would flop! HUGE! There is no place for 4 systems, just ask Sega about it.Philosoma


Sega was around long before most consoles, so I don't really see Sega's systems as the "4th" console. I don't think that Sega's Dreamcast flopped at all - it had amazing games - nonetheless, it isn't here anymore for other reasons, mainly marketing. Everybody thought that MS entering with a console, their Xbox, would flop too, but now look at them, MS is a gaming giant.

I don't want to start this debate again. It has been debated many, many times. Sega did flop in salles, especially in sales of software. It was TO EASY to play pirats on Dreamcast. Very expensive games like Shenmue, that is still the most expensive game ever floped big time. But that doesn't mean Dreamcast was bad or that it had bad games. I have it and i know how good it was or still is. Google it and you can fins good explanations why Sega retaired. there is no place for 4 systems on market, period!
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#25 Philosoma
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[QUOTE="Philosoma"][QUOTE="XGuNn3rX"]One world for Apple entering games: FLOP.Tony_aaaa



Care to elaborate?

Amazing how people said the same for Microsoft's Zune, the MP3 player - and the Zune isn't bad at all haha, I use it more than my Ipod and it is really sexy. I think that both companies can compete anywhere they want.

OK--Apple DID try to enter the game console market---Voted one of the 25 worst products of all time

.-#22

http://pcworld.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,125772,pg,6,00.asp


That's awesome! Wow, I didn't know that Apple actually tried! Thanks for that scoop - anyway, so if Apple knows that it can't make a console, will it make software or join up with Sony or Nintendo? It would be a big move and having the brand name of Apple going along with your console could only be good.

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it will be like Super Mac World 2007 , 3 months later Super Mac World 2007 1.2,       Super Mac World 2007 1.5           Super Mac World 2007 1.53          Super Mac World 2007 1.8 ......
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it will be like Super Mac World 2007 , 3 months later Super Mac World 2007 1.2,       Super Mac World 2007 1.5           Super Mac World 2007 1.53          Super Mac World 2007 1.8 ......darcom1
lol!
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What if Apple got into the business? Think about these scenarios, if you will -

Apple creates an Iphone-ish product that can play simple "cell-phone type" and online flash type games. Minesweeper, Tetris, maybe something like Snood. Hmmm...


Apple joins with some ex-console making company, like Sega, and creates a new handheld system that is different than the DS but much like the PSP. Its major functionality is the ability to play games (better than PSP quality), stream audio and video, browse online, and has a 60gb harddrive. They call it the Igame and it (somehow lol) has just as much third party support as DS and PSP.


Apple creates a peripheral that attaches their Ipod product lines to the Wii-mote and allows streaming audio and video to be played on the Wii. Software is included and allows customized soundtracks during gameplay, music sharing, and stores Mii information as well as achievements for Wii games into the Ipod product. They call it Wii-tunes.


Apple creates a network lobby much like PSHome that allows people to chat, blog, post audio and video, and share files and music. It is co-developed with Nintendo and uses the Miis as the avatars. The software can also be installed on PCs and allows access to the network lobby anywhere. They call it Itown.

What do you think? Apple seems to be doing pretty well - think they might want to get into the videogame world for more action?
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I think Apple is good at two things, software/hardware integration and marketing. Whether you prefer a mac over a PC or not, you have to admit the overall package Apple delivers is solid. The software is specifically designed for the hardware and developing on a closed platform allows for the kind of cohesiveness most PCs don't have. Also, you have to agree they know how to market their products. Even if the majority of their I'm a mac & I'm a PC commericals are silly and misleading, they are fun to watch at least by computer company commerical standards.

Will Apple enter the gaming world? Prolly not till Steve Jobs has left the company, he has already expressed that he's really not interested in games. Do I think they should? Only if they were to work with Nintendo. Like all Apple products they will be costlier than most other options. So creating a competitor for whatever Sony and MS put out would prolly involve a cost almost no one could justify. But if they worked with Nintendo to create a console of a different breed, much like the Wii is in comparision, it could work.

A handheld is prolly the best way to go. That market is pretty small, Nintendo has always dominated, and as much as I like my PSP, it's never gonna outsell Nintendo. In the portable gaming market they could easily steal share from Sony. Again, while I like my PSP, it's nowhere near as easy to use as my ipod. Sure it does more, but the multimedia aspects are harder to use than they shold be. If the PSP had a maager like itunes, I garuntee more people would consider it.

A peripheral? Most of Apples extra, kind of suck. I mean they are functional but their keyboards and mighty mouse are no where near the best available and cost as much as high end gaming peripherals. Besides to create a truly revolutionary device, you really need to understand all the aspects of gaming. Remember the obmination of a controller the origional xbox shipped with? Now the 360 controller is a true testiment to how much MS has learned in the last 4 or 5 years.

The network lobby seems likely, but only if something like Windows Live catches on. Apple is not a game centric orginization, so it would most likely focus on conectivity and community. Sure there would be games, but simple games, like cards and chess. Out of all the ideas you proposed this sound the most like Apple. They always state that their trying to make everything easier and bring people together.

I'd like to see a Apple, Nintendo collabiration. Something where Nintendo games are made available to mac owners exclusively. This would extend Nintendos market further, as most mac users are non-gamers or casuals, after all this is what Nintendo is trying to do with the Wii. At the same time, it may give people a reason to buy a mac, that would like to play games more advanced than solitaire, but can't really see buying a console.

 

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There is too much competition as of now.  Unless they do something innovative, like the Nintendo Wii, then they wont survive strongly.

There's potiental.  It'd be wise to jump in if there is either some type of highly innovative idea that makes it worth purchasing, or if one of the three kings have fallen.
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[QUOTE="Philosoma"][QUOTE="XGuNn3rX"] Three's a crowd.



I can agree, as of now it seems a little too late but if Apple strictly goes with casual software or joins with Nintendo or something, they can still enter gaming and not actually have a system of their own. I think that Apple would be a big ally for either Sony or Nintendo.

Why??? What do they have to offer other than their brand name? Seriously, are you asking this purely because you're a huge Apple fan or is there something concrete that their tech will provide which Nintendo or Sony (why not MS...?) would otherwise struggle to provide? Okay, they could all potentially use some Apple sauce in their design -- I'm not personally a huge fan, but it is pretty to look at. I'm struggling to see what the result would be, other than a swoon-worthy price tag.
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it's a very real possibility.

Apple has changed its name, dropping the "Computer" from it and reestablishing themselves as a consumer electronics giant.

personally, it's only a matter of time... When they do, they'll go directly for sony...the other consumer electronics giant ....

this will leave MS, Ninty and Apple.... sounds like a good combo...

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[QUOTE="Philosoma"]What if Apple got into the business? Think about these scenarios, if you will -

Apple creates an Iphone-ish product that can play simple "cell-phone type" and online flash type games. Minesweeper, Tetris, maybe something like Snood. Hmmm...


Apple joins with some ex-console making company, like Sega, and creates a new handheld system that is different than the DS but much like the PSP. Its major functionality is the ability to play games (better than PSP quality), stream audio and video, browse online, and has a 60gb harddrive. They call it the Igame and it (somehow lol) has just as much third party support as DS and PSP.


Apple creates a peripheral that attaches their Ipod product lines to the Wii-mote and allows streaming audio and video to be played on the Wii. Software is included and allows customized soundtracks during gameplay, music sharing, and stores Mii information as well as achievements for Wii games into the Ipod product. They call it Wii-tunes.


Apple creates a network lobby much like PSHome that allows people to chat, blog, post audio and video, and share files and music. It is co-developed with Nintendo and uses the Miis as the avatars. The software can also be installed on PCs and allows access to the network lobby anywhere. They call it Itown.

What do you think? Apple seems to be doing pretty well - think they might want to get into the videogame world for more action?
michaelareb0001

I think Apple is good at two things, software/hardware integration and marketing. Whether you prefer a mac over a PC or not, you have to admit the overall package Apple delivers is solid. The software is specifically designed for the hardware and developing on a closed platform allows for the kind of cohesiveness most PCs don't have. Also, you have to agree they know how to market their products. Even if the majority of their I'm a mac & I'm a PC commericals are silly and misleading, they are fun to watch at least by computer company commerical standards.

Will Apple enter the gaming world? Prolly not till Steve Jobs has left the company, he has already expressed that he's really not interested in games. Do I think they should? Only if they were to work with Nintendo. Like all Apple products they will be costlier than most other options. So creating a competitor for whatever Sony and MS put out would prolly involve a cost almost no one could justify. But if they worked with Nintendo to create a console of a different breed, much like the Wii is in comparision, it could work.

A handheld is prolly the best way to go. That market is pretty small, Nintendo has always dominated, and as much as I like my PSP, it's never gonna outsell Nintendo. In the portable gaming market they could easily steal share from Sony. Again, while I like my PSP, it's nowhere near as easy to use as my ipod. Sure it does more, but the multimedia aspects are harder to use than they shold be. If the PSP had a maager like itunes, I garuntee more people would consider it.

A peripheral? Most of Apples extra, kind of suck. I mean they are functional but their keyboards and mighty mouse are no where near the best available and cost as much as high end gaming peripherals. Besides to create a truly revolutionary device, you really need to understand all the aspects of gaming. Remember the obmination of a controller the origional xbox shipped with? Now the 360 controller is a true testiment to how much MS has learned in the last 4 or 5 years.

The network lobby seems likely, but only if something like Windows Live catches on. Apple is not a game centric orginization, so it would most likely focus on conectivity and community. Sure there would be games, but simple games, like cards and chess. Out of all the ideas you proposed this sound the most like Apple. They always state that their trying to make everything easier and bring people together.

I'd like to see a Apple, Nintendo collabiration. Something where Nintendo games are made available to mac owners exclusively. This would extend Nintendos market further, as most mac users are non-gamers or casuals, after all this is what Nintendo is trying to do with the Wii. At the same time, it may give people a reason to buy a mac, that would like to play games more advanced than solitaire, but can't really see buying a console.

 

There was talk of Apple and Nintendo becoming one not too long ago. Or, at least some sort of partnership being formed. If anything, Apple won't compete with M$, Sony, or Nintendo right off the bat. It would be, as I said before, casual games that everyone can enjoy. Nothing too serious. And, I have to mention this... the iPod didn't keep Apple alive, that would be the iMac. The iPod gave Apple the appearance they have today, and it helps carry their products to the inspired youth in MOST of us. I'm glad to be on their side of the fence, personally...
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If apple got into the game business people who wear tapered leg jeans, tight black t-shirts, and think rimmed glasses while driving their jettas would have a system to use for games.Huff


its funny because the people that you're describing are actually making fun of people like you too. just because people like to look good doesnt mean they're casuals and know nothing about games or technology. take it from me and my friends, although we dont wear sunglasses and we definitely dont drive jettas.:P
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[QUOTE="Huff"]If apple got into the game business people who wear tapered leg jeans, tight black t-shirts, and think rimmed glasses while driving their jettas would have a system to use for games.SDog624


its funny because the people that you're describing are actually making fun of people like you too. just because people like to look good doesnt mean they're casuals and know nothing about games or technology. take it from me and my friends, although we dont wear sunglasses and we definitely dont drive jettas.:P

I have no problem with people who like to look good.  I think you confused looking good with self-important techno dick
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[QUOTE="Kojak8888"]And where exactly are the games? I love how everyone nowadays thinks that having more options on systems is better than having quality games... SighPhilosoma


You missed the point. Apple could very well get into gaming without actually having to develop games - they only need to get the attention of developers. Apple quickly dominated (still does) the MP3 market - I think that it would be wise of Apple to find a way to get into gaming.

If we said this about Microsoft in 1991 what would people think?

If Apple got into the gaming world I would puke. There is no need for them to enter into it at all. As of now I think its too much as is. You basically would have a third system that would be the same as the 360 and the PS3.
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[QUOTE="michaelareb0001"]

[QUOTE="Philosoma"]What if Apple got into the business? Think about these scenarios, if you will -

Apple creates an Iphone-ish product that can play simple "cell-phone type" and online flash type games. Minesweeper, Tetris, maybe something like Snood. Hmmm...


Apple joins with some ex-console making company, like Sega, and creates a new handheld system that is different than the DS but much like the PSP. Its major functionality is the ability to play games (better than PSP quality), stream audio and video, browse online, and has a 60gb harddrive. They call it the Igame and it (somehow lol) has just as much third party support as DS and PSP.


Apple creates a peripheral that attaches their Ipod product lines to the Wii-mote and allows streaming audio and video to be played on the Wii. Software is included and allows customized soundtracks during gameplay, music sharing, and stores Mii information as well as achievements for Wii games into the Ipod product. They call it Wii-tunes.


Apple creates a network lobby much like PSHome that allows people to chat, blog, post audio and video, and share files and music. It is co-developed with Nintendo and uses the Miis as the avatars. The software can also be installed on PCs and allows access to the network lobby anywhere. They call it Itown.

What do you think? Apple seems to be doing pretty well - think they might want to get into the videogame world for more action?
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I think Apple is good at two things, software/hardware integration and marketing. Whether you prefer a mac over a PC or not, you have to admit the overall package Apple delivers is solid. The software is specifically designed for the hardware and developing on a closed platform allows for the kind of cohesiveness most PCs don't have. Also, you have to agree they know how to market their products. Even if the majority of their I'm a mac & I'm a PC commericals are silly and misleading, they are fun to watch at least by computer company commerical standards.

Will Apple enter the gaming world? Prolly not till Steve Jobs has left the company, he has already expressed that he's really not interested in games. Do I think they should? Only if they were to work with Nintendo. Like all Apple products they will be costlier than most other options. So creating a competitor for whatever Sony and MS put out would prolly involve a cost almost no one could justify. But if they worked with Nintendo to create a console of a different breed, much like the Wii is in comparision, it could work.

A handheld is prolly the best way to go. That market is pretty small, Nintendo has always dominated, and as much as I like my PSP, it's never gonna outsell Nintendo. In the portable gaming market they could easily steal share from Sony. Again, while I like my PSP, it's nowhere near as easy to use as my ipod. Sure it does more, but the multimedia aspects are harder to use than they shold be. If the PSP had a maager like itunes, I garuntee more people would consider it.

A peripheral? Most of Apples extra, kind of suck. I mean they are functional but their keyboards and mighty mouse are no where near the best available and cost as much as high end gaming peripherals. Besides to create a truly revolutionary device, you really need to understand all the aspects of gaming. Remember the obmination of a controller the origional xbox shipped with? Now the 360 controller is a true testiment to how much MS has learned in the last 4 or 5 years.

The network lobby seems likely, but only if something like Windows Live catches on. Apple is not a game centric orginization, so it would most likely focus on conectivity and community. Sure there would be games, but simple games, like cards and chess. Out of all the ideas you proposed this sound the most like Apple. They always state that their trying to make everything easier and bring people together.

I'd like to see a Apple, Nintendo collabiration. Something where Nintendo games are made available to mac owners exclusively. This would extend Nintendos market further, as most mac users are non-gamers or casuals, after all this is what Nintendo is trying to do with the Wii. At the same time, it may give people a reason to buy a mac, that would like to play games more advanced than solitaire, but can't really see buying a console.

 

There was talk of Apple and Nintendo becoming one not too long ago. Or, at least some sort of partnership being formed. If anything, Apple won't compete with M$, Sony, or Nintendo right off the bat. It would be, as I said before, casual games that everyone can enjoy. Nothing too serious. And, I have to mention this... the iPod didn't keep Apple alive, that would be the iMac. The iPod gave Apple the appearance they have today, and it helps carry their products to the inspired youth in MOST of us. I'm glad to be on their side of the fence, personally...

No if there was no such thing as the Apple Ipod apple would go down the drain.  Simple as that, first off the IMAC is junk, just like the rest of MACs.  They are very expensive and retarded systems that look good, thats all that MACS do.  Beside M$ owns a portion of Apple so I dont think they would be allowed in the gaming market at all.

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[QUOTE="Philosoma"][QUOTE="Kojak8888"]And where exactly are the games? I love how everyone nowadays thinks that having more options on systems is better than having quality games... Sighxscrapzx


You missed the point. Apple could very well get into gaming without actually having to develop games - they only need to get the attention of developers. Apple quickly dominated (still does) the MP3 market - I think that it would be wise of Apple to find a way to get into gaming.

If we said this about Microsoft in 1991 what would people think?

If Apple got into the gaming world I would puke. There is no need for them to enter into it at all. As of now I think its too much as is. You basically would have a third system that would be the same as the 360 and the PS3.

Are you not reading anything in this thread? Where did you get the idea it would be like the 360 or PS3? Isn't the general consensus so far (at least in THIS thread) pointing at casual games? Please, post with caution. Dribble will not be tolerated.
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And if you remember before the IPOD Apple was doing pretty bad money wise.
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No if there was no such thing as the Apple Ipod apple would go down the drain.  Simple as that, first off the IMAC is junk, just like the rest of MACs.  They are very expensive and retarded systems that look good, thats all that MACS do.  Beside M$ owns a portion of Apple so I dont think they would be allowed in the gaming market at all.

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I can tell by your reply that you're extremely educated on this subject. Thanks for another stellar contribution... (dribble much? :roll: )
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And if you remember before the IPOD Apple was doing pretty bad money wise.xscrapzx
Look it up- the iMac + Steve Jobs saved Apple. Not the iPod.
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[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="Philosoma"][QUOTE="Kojak8888"]And where exactly are the games? I love how everyone nowadays thinks that having more options on systems is better than having quality games... Sighmusicalmac


You missed the point. Apple could very well get into gaming without actually having to develop games - they only need to get the attention of developers. Apple quickly dominated (still does) the MP3 market - I think that it would be wise of Apple to find a way to get into gaming.

If we said this about Microsoft in 1991 what would people think?

If Apple got into the gaming world I would puke. There is no need for them to enter into it at all. As of now I think its too much as is. You basically would have a third system that would be the same as the 360 and the PS3.

Are you not reading anything in this thread? Where did you get the idea it would be like the 360 or PS3? Isn't the general consensus so far (at least in THIS thread) pointing at casual games? Please, post with caution. Dribble will not be tolerated.

What do you mean Dribble?? I'm stating my opinion(I mean I'm allowed to state my opinion right, didn't know the word puke affended you and if it did I apologize), I dont like Apple I think they are very overated computer company that are based on looks of their computer systems. I mean I own IPOD because I think that is what of the greatest devices ever made from them and I give Steve Jobs a great amount of respect for such a device. But for them to get in the gaming world would be stupid, even if it was casual games, and why would someone want to spend money on a gaming system that isnt near what the technology is today. Why would people want to take a step back with a gaming system?
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And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming.  Not technically where other games are at.  Atleast thats what I get the casual from.
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And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming.  Not technically where other games are at.  Atleast thats what I get the casual from.xscrapzx
All I can say about this reply is " What?! " Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean... If that answers the previous post- you got me :lol:
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[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming.  Not technically where other games are at.  Atleast thats what I get the casual from.musicalmac
All I can say about this reply is " What?! " Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean... If that answers the previous post- you got me :lol:

Well then basically my last post that I made is basically the answer to Casual games.  Now why dont you look at this post that you made.  You stated "Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War."  Who in their right mind is going to pay money on a frigin game console that plays solitare, when they have it on their IPOD, or they can play it free on their computer.  Thats my point, and thats why it wouldn't make sense to make a system like that at all, absolutely pointless:lol:

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I don't know about the quality of the games/hardware, that depends on how much support from third parties it gets and how much funding they get. But the thing I know suits apple to the console market is the way that consoles have to look good in a way computers just don't. And when you think how well Microsoft have done so far I wouldn't be surprised if apple tried to do the same thing.

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I mean I notice you like MACs and all but hey its just pointless to make a game console that plays games that come on an IPOD.  Sorry but I dont see a great market in that at all, when you can play all those for free and those "relaxing games" flash based.

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it'd be a $700 system with two buttons and a wheel.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming.  Not technically where other games are at.  Atleast thats what I get the casual from.xscrapzx

All I can say about this reply is " What?! " Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean... If that answers the previous post- you got me :lol:

Well then basically my last post that I made is basically the answer to Casual games.  Now why dont you look at this post that you made.  You stated "Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War."  Who in their right mind is going to pay money on a frigin game console that plays solitare, when they have it on their IPOD, or they can play it free on their computer.  Thats my point, and thats why it wouldn't make sense to make a system like that at all, absolutely pointless:lol:

:?... I think you're lost here. This post clearly outlines your lack of information regarding this thread, and the connection between Apple and gaming in general. Read earlier posts. Apple already has their hardware out. It's all about the software now.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming.  Not technically where other games are at.  Atleast thats what I get the casual from.musicalmac

All I can say about this reply is " What?! " Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean... If that answers the previous post- you got me :lol:

Well then basically my last post that I made is basically the answer to Casual games.  Now why dont you look at this post that you made.  You stated "Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War."  Who in their right mind is going to pay money on a frigin game console that plays solitare, when they have it on their IPOD, or they can play it free on their computer.  Thats my point, and thats why it wouldn't make sense to make a system like that at all, absolutely pointless:lol:

:?... I think you're lost here. This post clearly outlines your lack of information regarding this thread, and the connection between Apple and gaming in general. Read earlier posts. Apple already has their hardware out. It's all about the software now.

No I understand this post thoroughly but you are claiming that Mac should make a system that has casual games, hence your quote "Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean.."  I'm simply stating that I think the video game market has plently of systems as is.  I think that Apple should just stick with what they have and thats it.  I think getting into the gaming market is too much, and would be stupid for them to do so.  Why should there 18 consoles out there, its just too much.  Thats why systems such as Jaguar, Neo Geo, 3DO and so forth, didnt last because of the expense and the fact that people arent going to own 15 gaming systems.

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming.  Not technically where other games are at.  Atleast thats what I get the casual from.xscrapzx

All I can say about this reply is " What?! " Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean... If that answers the previous post- you got me :lol:

Well then basically my last post that I made is basically the answer to Casual games.  Now why dont you look at this post that you made.  You stated "Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War."  Who in their right mind is going to pay money on a frigin game console that plays solitare, when they have it on their IPOD, or they can play it free on their computer.  Thats my point, and thats why it wouldn't make sense to make a system like that at all, absolutely pointless:lol:

:?... I think you're lost here. This post clearly outlines your lack of information regarding this thread, and the connection between Apple and gaming in general. Read earlier posts. Apple already has their hardware out. It's all about the software now.

No I understand this post thoroughly but you are claiming that Mac should make a system that has casual games, hence your quote "Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean.."  I'm simply stating that I think the video game market has plently of systems as is.  I think that Apple should just stick with what they have and thats it.  I think getting into the gaming market is too much, and would be stupid for them to do so.  Why should there 18 consoles out there, its just too much.  Thats why systems such as Jaguar, Neo Geo, 3DO and so forth, didnt last because of the expense and the fact that people arent going to own 15 gaming systems.

Apple already has the hardware they need if they want to enter the casual gaming market. They're not going to compete with M$/Sony/Nintendo directly. Look up the Apple TV. Then you'll know what I'm talking about. You're arguing phantom issues that I'm not claiming responsibility for. I don't think they're going to make a gaming console. And just so we're clear, "Mac" is not a company. That would be Apple Inc.