What if Apple got into the business of games...?

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#51 Grodus5
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I think Dell would be another competetor, but any new big competetor is welcome.  I feel the industry needs to expand.  It would also stir up system war, and I like it when systems wars is stired up.
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#52 musicalmac  Moderator
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I think Dell would be another competetor, but any new big competetor is welcome.  I feel the industry needs to expand.  It would also stir up system war, and I like it when systems wars is stired up.Grodus5
:lol: Indeed. But Dell couldn't afford such a thing. Their profit margins are WAY down... Real bad for Dell (and Gateway).
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[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming.  Not technically where other games are at.  Atleast thats what I get the casual from.musicalmac

All I can say about this reply is " What?! " Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean... If that answers the previous post- you got me :lol:

Well then basically my last post that I made is basically the answer to Casual games.  Now why dont you look at this post that you made.  You stated "Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War."  Who in their right mind is going to pay money on a frigin game console that plays solitare, when they have it on their IPOD, or they can play it free on their computer.  Thats my point, and thats why it wouldn't make sense to make a system like that at all, absolutely pointless:lol:

:?... I think you're lost here. This post clearly outlines your lack of information regarding this thread, and the connection between Apple and gaming in general. Read earlier posts. Apple already has their hardware out. It's all about the software now.

No I understand this post thoroughly but you are claiming that Mac should make a system that has casual games, hence your quote "Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean.."  I'm simply stating that I think the video game market has plently of systems as is.  I think that Apple should just stick with what they have and thats it.  I think getting into the gaming market is too much, and would be stupid for them to do so.  Why should there 18 consoles out there, its just too much.  Thats why systems such as Jaguar, Neo Geo, 3DO and so forth, didnt last because of the expense and the fact that people arent going to own 15 gaming systems.

Apple already has the hardware they need if they want to enter the casual gaming market. They're not going to compete with M$/Sony/Nintendo directly. Look up the Apple TV. Then you'll know what I'm talking about. You're arguing phantom issues that I'm not claiming responsibility for. I don't think they're going to make a gaming console. And just so we're clear, "Mac" is not a company. That would be Apple Inc.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]And when you state casual games to mean that means something that is not of calibor of today's gaming.  Not technically where other games are at.  Atleast thats what I get the casual from.musicalmac

All I can say about this reply is " What?! " Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean... If that answers the previous post- you got me :lol:

Well then basically my last post that I made is basically the answer to Casual games.  Now why dont you look at this post that you made.  You stated "Casual games, like the current iPod games, are hardly a step back in gaming. Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War."  Who in their right mind is going to pay money on a frigin game console that plays solitare, when they have it on their IPOD, or they can play it free on their computer.  Thats my point, and thats why it wouldn't make sense to make a system like that at all, absolutely pointless:lol:

:?... I think you're lost here. This post clearly outlines your lack of information regarding this thread, and the connection between Apple and gaming in general. Read earlier posts. Apple already has their hardware out. It's all about the software now.

No I understand this post thoroughly but you are claiming that Mac should make a system that has casual games, hence your quote "Maybe the 45 year old businessman doesn't want to play Gears of War. Maybe he wants to sit down and play a solitair-esque game, or something simple and relaxing. That's what I mean.."  I'm simply stating that I think the video game market has plently of systems as is.  I think that Apple should just stick with what they have and thats it.  I think getting into the gaming market is too much, and would be stupid for them to do so.  Why should there 18 consoles out there, its just too much.  Thats why systems such as Jaguar, Neo Geo, 3DO and so forth, didnt last because of the expense and the fact that people arent going to own 15 gaming systems.

Apple already has the hardware they need if they want to enter the casual gaming market. They're not going to compete with M$/Sony/Nintendo directly. Look up the Apple TV. Then you'll know what I'm talking about. You're arguing phantom issues that I'm not claiming responsibility for. I don't think they're going to make a gaming console. And just so we're clear, "Mac" is not a company. That would be Apple Inc.

I understand that it is not MAC that is a company I dont feel like typing out Apple ten times. But thanks for the history. This post is about what if Apple got into the industry with another company such as sega who no longer exist in the console wars, to build a system together that would be a pretty niffty thing. I'm simple stating that I think it would be pointless thats all. I'm not making up phatom issues I'm quoting you from your posts. To break down in simple terms so there are non of the "phatom issues", you are telling me that it would be a good idea for Apple to come out with such a device that has gaming capabilities and I'm saying that it is pointless to do so. Thats all. If that confuses you then I dont know what else to tell you.
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I think Dell would be another competetor, but any new big competetor is welcome.  I feel the industry needs to expand.  It would also stir up system war, and I like it when systems wars is stired up.Grodus5
I dont agree with that because I think it would be stupid if there were 20 gaming consoles out there, that each one has one defying game and then they all share the same madden games and sport games. I think that is foolish and way to much. Companies tried to do that in the early 90's and did not succeed because it was a foolish idea.
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[QUOTE="Grodus5"]I think Dell would be another competetor, but any new big competetor is welcome.  I feel the industry needs to expand.  It would also stir up system war, and I like it when systems wars is stired up.musicalmac
:lol: Indeed. But Dell couldn't afford such a thing. Their profit margins are WAY down... Real bad for Dell (and Gateway).

You can tell you have a real MAC fanboy here. Screw MACS and screw dell and gateway, hp. Build your own system much cheaper in price and a better bang for your buck.
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[QUOTE="SDog624"][QUOTE="Huff"]If apple got into the game business people who wear tapered leg jeans, tight black t-shirts, and think rimmed glasses while driving their jettas would have a system to use for games.Huff


its funny because the people that you're describing are actually making fun of people like you too. just because people like to look good doesnt mean they're casuals and know nothing about games or technology. take it from me and my friends, although we dont wear sunglasses and we definitely dont drive jettas.:P

I have no problem with people who like to look good. I think you confused looking good with self-important techno dick



if your're talking about the gay techno dicks who shop at abercrombie & fitch, then i agree with you 100%. i wouldnt consider any of the techno played in that store as techno. theyre more like homosexuality anthems. if you want good techno listen to dj tiesto.
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#57 the-very-best
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I think if they did enter the videogame market it would be for a handheld.

They would obviously have the MP3 functionality of the Ipod plus a large screen similar to that of the PSP's to play movies (downloaded via Itunes) and games.

I think they'll do it to be honest. We'll see an Apple Handheld (iplay or igame) in the next 5 years, probably around the same time Sony and Nintendo decide to send out their next handhelds.
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#58 KillaHalo2o9
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Naw cant think about it Apple is for Ipods lol
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#59 LeoGionZ
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Then Apple had better make it look really good and have a couple of good games for it because I don't think anyone is going to buy it.
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#60 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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if they made a console, it would totally rock. lots of people would buy it, and many units would break. the games would probably be really intuitive and innovative. i'd buy it. all these observations, of course, are based on Ipod and Mac observations.
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#61 Huff
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[QUOTE="Huff"][QUOTE="SDog624"][QUOTE="Huff"]If apple got into the game business people who wear tapered leg jeans, tight black t-shirts, and think rimmed glasses while driving their jettas would have a system to use for games.SDog624


its funny because the people that you're describing are actually making fun of people like you too. just because people like to look good doesnt mean they're casuals and know nothing about games or technology. take it from me and my friends, although we dont wear sunglasses and we definitely dont drive jettas.:P

I have no problem with people who like to look good. I think you confused looking good with self-important techno dick



if your're talking about the gay techno dicks who shop at abercrombie & fitch, then i agree with you 100%. i wouldnt consider any of the techno played in that store as techno. theyre more like homosexuality anthems. if you want good techno listen to dj tiesto.

technology not techno music.  I'm talking I pod in the ear, treo smartphone in the hand, blackberry on the belt, and a constantly carried man-purse containing a laptop.
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#62 Random__Guy
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They should make the console (mac guy) Justin Long's head, and the game pack's are DiIdos that you shove into his mouth. 
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#63 glitchgeeman
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It would suck horribly, cost $800, have no decent games, but since there are so many casuals out there who think Apple makes the best products, it would probably sell the best and indirectly destroy all the talent of the other 3.
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#64 MoldOnHold
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All I know is....it'll come with iTunes functionality. 8)
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#65 MoldOnHold
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It would suck horribly, cost $800, have no decent games, but since there are so many casuals out there who think Apple makes the best products, it would probably sell the best and indirectly destroy all the talent of the other 3. glitchgeeman
Hey now that's a cheerful thought. o.O
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#66 trophylocoste
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Then it will be like mac...
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#67 imprezawrx500
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they would charge you $1000+ for their under powered system
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#68 Teuf_
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I'd tell them to get out.
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#69 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="Kojak8888"]And where exactly are the games? I love how everyone nowadays thinks that having more options on systems is better than having quality games... SighPhilosoma


You missed the point. Apple could very well get into gaming without actually having to develop games - they only need to get the attention of developers. Apple quickly dominated (still does) the MP3 market - I think that it would be wise of Apple to find a way to get into gaming.

If we said this about Microsoft in 1991 what would people think?

there is a difference since mp3s don't require someone to support them since people bought cds and ripped them when the ipod started you can't do the same with games
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#70 napkincard
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nobody would buy it.
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#71 ArisShadows
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 They already tried.

 

Meet the

Apple Pippin

 



The Apple Pippin was a technology for a multimedia player platform marketed by Apple Inc. (then Apple Computer Inc.) in the mid 1990s. It was based around a 66-MHzPowerPC 603e processor, a 14.4kbps modem and ran a cut-down version of the Mac OS. The goal was to create an inexpensive computer aimed mostly at playing CD-based multimedia titles, especially games, but also functioning as a network computer. It featured a 4× CD-ROM drive and a video output that could connect to a standard television monitor.

Apple never intended to release its own Pippin. Instead it intended to license the technology to third parties, a business model similar to that of the ill-fated 3DO; however, the only Pippin licensee to release a product to market was Bandai.

By the time the Bandai Pippin was released (1995 in Japan; 1996 in the United States), the market was already dominated by the Nintendo 64, Sony PlayStation, and Sega Saturn, game machines that were much more powerful than the more general-purpose Pippin. In addition, there was little ready-to-use software for Pippin, the only major publisher being Bandai itself. Costing US$599 on launch, and touted as a cheap computer, the system, in reality, was commonly identified as a video-game console. As such, its price was considered too expensive in comparison to its contemporaries.

Only a few thousand Pippins were manufactured, production was so limited that there were more keyboard and modem accessories produced than actual systems.[1]

Ultimately, Pippin as a technology suffered because it was a late starter in the 3D generation of consoles, and was under-powered as a gaming machine and personal computer. Bandai's version died quickly, only ever having a relatively limited release in the United States and Japan.

In May 2006, the Pippin was voted one of the 25 Worst Tech Products of all Time by PC World Magazine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Pippin

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#72 SDog624
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i would never buy an apple video game console. it would suck way too much. it would be too expensive and probably  have no good games. even i'm willing to admit that and i love mac and ipods. they should forget about consoles and try to get more developers to make games for macs. they should also make their computers a lot more user upgradeable. i understand that they keep things limited so that their computers work and they make more profit on hardware, but it would be nice if users could buy after market parts licensed by apple. that way users could upgrade however they want and apple doesnt have to worry about compatibility and they'd be making money from licensing hardware.