As a gamer, I'll be getting the PS4 over the 720. Everyone knows MS won't be able to beat Sony games wise. 720 should be good for people that are interested in those types of games.
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Well we know Balcktusk is working on a game directed at the core and evidence strongly suggests there will be PGR 5 coming soon, probably Nextbox launch title.
The Nexbox will be like the PS4 in how it caters to both. The PS4 is launching with two different Move games. Heck they showed 5 exclusive games at the Sony event and two of them were move games and one was the cartoon Knack game. The PS4 also comes with a camera and sensor controllers in every box and I am not sure if the Move controllers have to be bought separate. For a console to be successful it can not just appeal to only one group.
That will all depend on the marketshare and demographics buying that console. I'm not expecting next gen consoles to be clones of one another again. Like it or not, Microsoft has a casual specialty now and it really shows not only on the games we have seen over the course of the past two years but in the new development studios as well. The 360 will probably be catering to the people the Wii U failed in getting.I am willing to bet that at least 90 percent of the games put out next gen are multiplat. Of the remaining ten percent, half of them will be franchises (i.e Halo or Killzone).
dogfather76
I think it will be unfortunate if PGR 5 is Black Tusks game. As much as I liked the series, that was Bizarre Creations game and trading one racing series for another is not good. And even though there are two games coming specifically for Move, Sony has already shown that Move is not strictly a casual device.Well we know Balcktusk is working on a game directed at the core and evidence strongly suggests there will be PGR 5 coming soon, probably Nextbox launch title.
The Nexbox will be like the PS4 in how it caters to both. The PS4 is launching with two different Move games. Heck they showed 5 exclusive games at the Sony event and two of them were move games and one was the cartoon Knack game. The PS4 also comes with a camera and sensor controllers in every box and I am not sure if the Move controllers have to be bought separate.
CanYouDiglt
I'm already getting a PS4, I dont care what MS does at this point. Maybe I'll get their next console when 15+ exclusive games come out that dont require Kinect(lol) and aren't names Halo/Gears/forzaHeil68
I'd take Halo, Gears, and Forza over Killzone, Infamous, and Motorstorm any day. I'm still getting a PS4 though.
[QUOTE="Heil68"]I'm already getting a PS4, I dont care what MS does at this point. Maybe I'll get their next console when 15+ exclusive games come out that dont require Kinect(lol) and aren't names Halo/Gears/forzadogfather76
I'd take Halo, Gears, and Forza over Killzone, Infamous, and Motorstorm any day. I'm still getting a PS4 though.
Sony has more than 3 series. They have the biggest 1st party, capable of pumping out twice as many games as MS.[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I think it will be unfortunate if PGR 5 is Black Tusks game. As much as I liked the series, that was Bizarre Creations game and trading one racing series for another is not good. And even though there are two games coming specifically for Move, Sony has already shown that Move is not strictly a casual device.Black Tusk is not making PGR 5 another studio is and it has a lot of Bizarre members in that studio. Also who said they are trading one series for another? It is not even like Turn 10 is making PGR 5. Just because the PS4 has that team race game does not mean there will never be another GT game for example. Also you can say the same with Kinect how it has been used for non-casual games such as Skyrim ,Mass Effect and others. Sony fans just like to try and pretend all the playstation move and casual games do not exist.Well we know Balcktusk is working on a game directed at the core and evidence strongly suggests there will be PGR 5 coming soon, probably Nextbox launch title.
The Nexbox will be like the PS4 in how it caters to both. The PS4 is launching with two different Move games. Heck they showed 5 exclusive games at the Sony event and two of them were move games and one was the cartoon Knack game. The PS4 also comes with a camera and sensor controllers in every box and I am not sure if the Move controllers have to be bought separate.
Murderstyle75
I'm pretty sure ms know what they are doing, i do not see them going completely down the kinect route unless there going for the wii market which maybe the case but i don't see it, they wouldn't be that stupid, but i do see them pushing the kinect alot more. but will see, my money is going to a ps4 as for me they have the better games and with the ps4 having the whole easier to develop for setup multiplats are always going to be good so no need for a 720.Â
[QUOTE="dogfather76"]
[QUOTE="Heil68"]I'm already getting a PS4, I dont care what MS does at this point. Maybe I'll get their next console when 15+ exclusive games come out that dont require Kinect(lol) and aren't names Halo/Gears/forzaImBatman-
I'd take Halo, Gears, and Forza over Killzone, Infamous, and Motorstorm any day. I'm still getting a PS4 though.
Sony has more than 3 series. They have the biggest 1st party, capable of pumping out twice as many games as MS.I like Sony as much as the next guy, but with the exception of Uncharted and God of War, I really think most of their franchises are pretty forgetable. (Killzone, Infamous, Motorstorn, Grand Tourismo, Little Big Planet, Twisted Metal). That's just my opinion though.
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I think it will be unfortunate if PGR 5 is Black Tusks game. As much as I liked the series, that was Bizarre Creations game and trading one racing series for another is not good. And even though there are two games coming specifically for Move, Sony has already shown that Move is not strictly a casual device.Black Tusk is not making PGR 5 another studio is and it has a lot of Bizarre members in that studio. Also who said they are trading one series for another? It is not even like Turn 10 is making PGR 5. Just because the PS4 has that team race game does not mean there will never be another GT game for example. Also you can say the same with Kinect how it has been used for non-casual games such as Skyrim ,Mass Effect and others. Sony fans just like to try and pretend all the playstation move and casual games do not exist. I think you are missing my points. We have not seen a PGR game in about 6 years meaning they already traded it off for Forza. If they plan on bringing it back, they would be doing one of two things. Either trading Forza off or having two primary racing series that are very similar. There are other genres that need to be covered.Well we know Balcktusk is working on a game directed at the core and evidence strongly suggests there will be PGR 5 coming soon, probably Nextbox launch title.
The Nexbox will be like the PS4 in how it caters to both. The PS4 is launching with two different Move games. Heck they showed 5 exclusive games at the Sony event and two of them were move games and one was the cartoon Knack game. The PS4 also comes with a camera and sensor controllers in every box and I am not sure if the Move controllers have to be bought separate.
CanYouDiglt
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] I think it will be unfortunate if PGR 5 is Black Tusks game. As much as I liked the series, that was Bizarre Creations game and trading one racing series for another is not good. And even though there are two games coming specifically for Move, Sony has already shown that Move is not strictly a casual device.Murderstyle75Black Tusk is not making PGR 5 another studio is and it has a lot of Bizarre members in that studio. Also who said they are trading one series for another? It is not even like Turn 10 is making PGR 5. Just because the PS4 has that team race game does not mean there will never be another GT game for example. Also you can say the same with Kinect how it has been used for non-casual games such as Skyrim ,Mass Effect and others. Sony fans just like to try and pretend all the playstation move and casual games do not exist. I think you are missing my points. We have not seen a PGR game in about 6 years meaning they already traded it off for Forza. If they plan on bringing it back, they would be doing one of two things. Either trading Forza off or having two primary racing series that are very similar. There are other genres that need to be covered.Trust me, PGR & Forza can easily coexist on the Next X and likely will since other than them being both racers, they are different enough for fans of diving games like myself and the urban settings of PGR have always been a feast for the senses. :D Now, having a Forza Horizon 2 at the same time may be too much even for me. :P
No cause it won't be, lol. Withe the immense sales of some of MS's properties they're aware of the core market and its power. But having Kinect allows them to tap into the casual market as well. Its the intelligence and ability to do both that will make the 720 a success, IMHO.
Sheep,
XBOX having games that we want to play is bad?
Oh no, it will have HALOOOOOOOOOO!
Oh no, Forza!?!?
AND EVEN WORSE what if it has .... wait for it... Gear of War?
The horror.
no i just won't buy it. Even if they show plenty of non Kinect games, if Kinect is included with the console or mandatory i still won't buy it.Will you switch to PS4?
SonyNintendoFan
no i just won't buy it. Even if they show plenty of non Kinect games, if Kinect is included with the console or mandatory i still won't buy it. I'm just curious, why do you hate it so much? Especially if its an option, but not needed for core games.[QUOTE="SonyNintendoFan"]
Will you switch to PS4?
marklarmer
[QUOTE="marklarmer"]no i just won't buy it. Even if they show plenty of non Kinect games, if Kinect is included with the console or mandatory i still won't buy it. I'm just curious, why do you hate it so much? Especially if its an option, but not needed for core games.[QUOTE="SonyNintendoFan"]
Will you switch to PS4?
shawn30
why are they doing it mandatory to be connected to the system in the first place?
[QUOTE="marklarmer"]no i just won't buy it. Even if they show plenty of non Kinect games, if Kinect is included with the console or mandatory i still won't buy it. I'm just curious, why do you hate it so much? Especially if its an option, but not needed for core games. Instead of making actually interesting games they make games for kinect. The amount of core games MS puts out goes down because of kinect, therefore affecting me.[QUOTE="SonyNintendoFan"]
Will you switch to PS4?
shawn30
[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]HAHA he said MS wouldn't do that. Funny guy. There's no what if. Its going to be Halo, forza, gears, kinect, halo, forza, gears, kinect and repeat for 6-8 years or less. I dunno man, gears may not come out in full force next gen. Epic seems tired of the franchise and microsoft doesn't own it. I'd say the future of the franchise is uncertain and will depend on how this new one performs.Ms wouldnt do that.Â
wasted_wisdom
I'm just curious, why do you hate it so much? Especially if its an option, but not needed for core games. Instead of making actually interesting games they make games for kinect. The amount of core games MS puts out goes down because of kinect, therefore affecting me. There were still plenty of non kinect games released last year on 360.[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]no i just won't buy it. Even if they show plenty of non Kinect games, if Kinect is included with the console or mandatory i still won't buy it.
ImBatman-
[QUOTE="Heil68"]I'm already getting a PS4, I dont care what MS does at this point. Maybe I'll get their next console when 15+ exclusive games come out that dont require Kinect(lol) and aren't names Halo/Gears/forzadogfather76
I'd take Halo, Gears, and Forza over Killzone, Infamous, and Motorstorm any day. I'm still getting a PS4 though.
and uncharted, little big plnet gran turismo, ni no kuni, metal gear.Â
[QUOTE="ImBatman-"]Instead of making actually interesting games they make games for kinect. The amount of core games MS puts out goes down because of kinect, therefore affecting me. There were still plenty of non kinect games released last year on 360. What about this year? Imagine the amount of games they would have if it weren't for kinect.[QUOTE="shawn30"] I'm just curious, why do you hate it so much? Especially if its an option, but not needed for core games. mems_1224
[QUOTE="marklarmer"]
[QUOTE="SonyNintendoFan"]
Will you switch to PS4?
shawn30no i just won't buy it. Even if they show plenty of non Kinect games, if Kinect is included with the console or mandatory i still won't buy it.
I'm just curious, why do you hate it so much? Especially if its an option, but not needed for core games. because its something i would never want to use, so why should i be forced to pay for it? especially if its going to increase the price of the console and probably have a negative effect on any game it gets integrated into, which will most likely be all of them if its bundled with the console. There are plenty of PC games to keep me happy for the next generation so i dont really have a problem with missing out on a few Xbox exclusives.
There were still plenty of non kinect games released last year on 360. What about this year? Imagine the amount of games they would have if it weren't for kinect.Obviously this year they aren't going to focus on 360 when they're preparing to launch a new console. Sony only has one interesting game this year and its The Last of Us.[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ImBatman-"]Instead of making actually interesting games they make games for kinect. The amount of core games MS puts out goes down because of kinect, therefore affecting me.
ImBatman-
I think you are missing my points. We have not seen a PGR game in about 6 years meaning they already traded it off for Forza. If they plan on bringing it back, they would be doing one of two things. Either trading Forza off or having two primary racing series that are very similar. There are other genres that need to be covered.Trust me, PGR & Forza can easily coexist on the Next X and likely will since other than them being both racers, they are different enough for fans of diving games like myself and the urban settings of PGR have always been a feast for the senses. :D Now, having a Forza Horizon 2 at the same time may be too much even for me. :P I've always liked PGR better than Forza however I don't think the lack of exclusive library in the last few years needs another PGR unless they also plan on focusing on the kind of library we had when PGR existed is the past. My issue right now is all we have is one FPS, One third person shooter and one racing series. It's been this way for quite some time now.[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Black Tusk is not making PGR 5 another studio is and it has a lot of Bizarre members in that studio. Also who said they are trading one series for another? It is not even like Turn 10 is making PGR 5. Just because the PS4 has that team race game does not mean there will never be another GT game for example. Also you can say the same with Kinect how it has been used for non-casual games such as Skyrim ,Mass Effect and others. Sony fans just like to try and pretend all the playstation move and casual games do not exist. SecretPolice
There were still plenty of non kinect games released last year on 360. What about this year? Imagine the amount of games they would have if it weren't for kinect.Firstly, with Gear J, Bioshock I and GTA5, playing those games to their fullest will require hundreds if not thousands of hours of gaming along with the games we recently received like Halo 4 & Forza H plus I've been spending many, many hours with BL2.[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ImBatman-"]Instead of making actually interesting games they make games for kinect. The amount of core games MS puts out goes down because of kinect, therefore affecting me.
ImBatman-
Secondly, many next gen Xbox games will soon be revealed launching later this year. :D
I'm just curious, why do you hate it so much? Especially if its an option, but not needed for core games. because its something i would never want to use, so why should i be forced to pay for it? especially if its going to increase the price of the console and probably have a negative effect on any game it gets integrated into, which will most likely be all of them if its bundled with the console. There are plenty of PC games to keep me happy for the next generation so i dont really have a problem with missing out on a few Xbox exclusives. Fair enough. Though I don't agree with it being intergrated into every game, and if it is, it'll be optional use only like Skyrim and Mass Effect 3. Unless its a Kinect exclusive. Still, I respect that what you said.[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]no i just won't buy it. Even if they show plenty of non Kinect games, if Kinect is included with the console or mandatory i still won't buy it.
marklarmer
What about this year? Imagine the amount of games they would have if it weren't for kinect.Firstly, with Gear J, Bioshock I and GTA5, playing those games to their fullest will require hundreds if not thousands of hours of gaming along with the games we recently received like Halo 4 & Forza H plus I've been spending many, many hours with BL2.[QUOTE="ImBatman-"]
[QUOTE="mems_1224"] There were still plenty of non kinect games released last year on 360. SecretPolice
Secondly, many next gen Xbox games will soon be revealed launching later this year. :D
Hopefully they are revealing studios to go along with these games as well because with the exception of Black Tusk, the new ones so far pretty much all have Kinect or XBLA specialties.[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Firstly, with Gear J, Bioshock I and GTA5, playing those games to their fullest will require hundreds if not thousands of hours of gaming along with the games we recently received like Halo 4 & Forza H plus I've been spending many, many hours with BL2.[QUOTE="ImBatman-"]What about this year? Imagine the amount of games they would have if it weren't for kinect.
Murderstyle75
Secondly, many next gen Xbox games will soon be revealed launching later this year. :D
Hopefully they are revealing studios to go along with these games as well because with the exception of Black Tusk, the new ones so far pretty much all have Kinect or XBLA specialties. A lot of XBLA games are better than retail games[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Firstly, with Gear J, Bioshock I and GTA5, playing those games to their fullest will require hundreds if not thousands of hours of gaming along with the games we recently received like Halo 4 & Forza H plus I've been spending many, many hours with BL2.Hopefully they are revealing studios to go along with these games as well because with the exception of Black Tusk, the new ones so far pretty much all have Kinect or XBLA specialties. A lot of XBLA games are better than retail games Yet I didn't spend that kind of money on hardware to play games which could easily run on my PC that can't even handle current gen games. I want full releases like we saw before marketplaces were around to allow the dependancy of low budget games that do not take advantage if the hardware. If these kind of games are better, what's even the reason for a new Xbox? Why not an Ouya for 100.00?Secondly, many next gen Xbox games will soon be revealed launching later this year. :D
mems_1224
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Firstly, with Gear J, Bioshock I and GTA5, playing those games to their fullest will require hundreds if not thousands of hours of gaming along with the games we recently received like Halo 4 & Forza H plus I've been spending many, many hours with BL2.[QUOTE="ImBatman-"]What about this year? Imagine the amount of games they would have if it weren't for kinect.
Murderstyle75
Secondly, many next gen Xbox games will soon be revealed launching later this year. :D
Hopefully they are revealing studios to go along with these games as well because with the exception of Black Tusk, the new ones so far pretty much all have Kinect or XBLA specialties.XBLA offers some really great games and amongst others, I expect two Rare games with at least one being what we would call core plus maybe a launch game from Lionhead and 343 has a seperate group working on something not having to do with Halo 5 & 6 - we shall see.Hopefully they are revealing studios to go along with these games as well because with the exception of Black Tusk, the new ones so far pretty much all have Kinect or XBLA specialties.XBLA offers some really great games and amongst others, I expect two Rare games with at least one being what we would call core plus maybe a launch game from Lionhead and 343 has a seperate group working on something not having to do with Halo 5 & 6 - we shall see. I do own 45 Arcade games but that's kind of not the point of owning a console. I would have passed on them in a second for some Jade Empire, Crimson Skies, Amped, Liandri Conflict and Phantom Dust type games any day of the week. They could give me all the Trials and Dishwashers in the world but they will still never make up for what this brand used to be. And while Rare might make a core game, can it really compare to something that could have been developed by Tim & Chris Stamper, Donnchadh Murphy and George Andreas? Microsoft Kinected Rare as much as they possibly could and now that all the talent left, they want to make a core game? What about 2007 and 2008 when they kept turning down their projects? I don't know. I've been with this brand since the original launch but have been extremely unhappy for a few years now. It would really take a lot to change my mind. There is a rather similar feeling amount a lot of the users over at the Xbox.com forums.[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Firstly, with Gear J, Bioshock I and GTA5, playing those games to their fullest will require hundreds if not thousands of hours of gaming along with the games we recently received like Halo 4 & Forza H plus I've been spending many, many hours with BL2.
Secondly, many next gen Xbox games will soon be revealed launching later this year. :D
SecretPolice
I've bought multiple consoles since the 2nd generation, and I don't expect that will change this generation. I don't really care if MS focuses on Kinect. As long as they put out games I want to play I'm good.
Matter of fact the only thing that will keep me from buying either the PS4 or Nextbox is if they block used games. I don't buy many used games, but I still want to be able to rent questionable games before buying. If I loose that ability I won't be buying that console.Â
little less respect you seemed to be one of the few sheens that didnt spout such non sense.[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="campzor"]what do you mean "what if" ?tenaka2
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Firstly, with Gear J, Bioshock I and GTA5, playing those games to their fullest will require hundreds if not thousands of hours of gaming along with the games we recently received like Halo 4 & Forza H plus I've been spending many, many hours with BL2.Hopefully they are revealing studios to go along with these games as well because with the exception of Black Tusk, the new ones so far pretty much all have Kinect or XBLA specialties. A lot of XBLA games are better than retail games No they aren't, compare any XBLA game to a fully retail game released around the same time in the same genre with a similar score, the big retail game will be better 99% of the time. Ofc if you moronically compare a AAA XBLA game with a low scoring flop retail game you get a different perspective.Secondly, many next gen Xbox games will soon be revealed launching later this year. :D
mems_1224
omg y'all! what if the nextbox gives you the cancer????
willya switch then? huh??? willya???? willya?!?!?!
that's  what you sound like.
Cows talk about the Next Box more than Lems do. Why is that?
I suggest going to help kuriamen mow yards so he can geta PS3 and wait til April to see what Microsft does. Because no matter what Mirosoft does, your minds are already made up. It is DMC Devil May Cry all over again.
[QUOTE="MstaPrimeMnista"][QUOTE="clone01"] Guess we'll see in April.clone01Clones in guys I've never been "out," pinnacle. Everybody needs fresh air eventually
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