What if xbox never exist?

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#1 madsnakehhh
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So, for a moment let's say that Bill Gates never wanted to enter to the gaming world, at least not as a console maker, what would you think would have happened?

IMO, PS2 would been still the beast that it is today, but the GC would probably had better sales, and more important, maybe SEGA would be still a console maker, yeah, i know that the Dreamcast was having lot of troubles by that time, but what if being the only console with an online community a game named Halo appear on the Dreamcast, interesting IMO, i mean, it would not be the huge deal that it is today, but maybe it would save SEGA's console.

And probably this gen we would have PS3 vs Dreamcast vs Nintendo, BTW, i didn't put Wii, why? well, maybe if the GC did a better job in sales we wouldn't have a Wii, we would have another Nintendo Console.

Do you think that games like GEOW and Ninja Gaiden would still exist today? the PS3 would be doing it better in sales?

So what do you think guys?

BTW, i put Xbox as an example because it was the last console to join the war.

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#2 jakehouston88
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I would love that...

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#3 Danm_999
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Halo would have remained a PC RTS if the Xbox never existed, it wouldn't have gone on the Dreamcast.
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#4 jrhawk42
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I'd only be a PC gamer. Xbox put my faith back in console games. Also I don't think we'd see very many shooters, and the ps3 probably wouldn't of been $500

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#5 Squall18
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If xbox never existed then a large % of European/ Americans would still be Sony Fans

Honestly, the xbox did enter fine, but eh 360 more than anything has surpassed all my expectations, so yeah, I honeslty wouldn't game online as much. more single player

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#6 jessesalinas
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the competition wouldnt be as fierce.

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#7 mitu123
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I would love that...

jakehouston88

I can see that...

I wouldn't mind, Sony v.s. Nintendo is better anyways IMO. Also, Rare would still be with Nintendo.

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#8 madsnakehhh
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Halo would have remained a PC RTS if the Xbox never existed, it wouldn't have gone on the Dreamcast.Danm_999

Don't you think Bungie would try to put FPS on consoles?

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#9 Fizzman
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PS3 would have been 800 dollars, and Sony would have said get 3 jobs to afford one.

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#10 jessesalinas
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Ifxbox didnt exist then Halo would be a PC Game

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#11 bc1391
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Then some of my favorite games wouldn't exist.

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#12 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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I wonder if console FPSs would be as big. They were starting to become big with Goldeneye 007 and Perfect Dark, but the original Halo is what basically saved the XBox and started it all... unfortunately. I would love if Rare was still with Nintendo. I didn't really play their FPSs too extensively, but I do enjoy all their platformers and Diddy Kong Racing!
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#13 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]Halo would have remained a PC RTS if the Xbox never existed, it wouldn't have gone on the Dreamcast.madsnakehhh

Don't you think Bungie would try to put FPS on consoles?

Without Microsoft buying them out? No. Microsoft bought out Bungie and turned Halo into an Xbox FPS; no Microsoft in the console market means no Halo in the console market.
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#14 Dogswithguns
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I would still be the biggest Sega and Dreamcast fan.
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#15 nVidiaGaMer
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Then some of my favorite games wouldn't exist.

bc1391

Not really. Halo was actually supposed to be made for the PS2.

http://ps2.ign.com/objects/014/014552.html

It was also in my Official Playstation Mag issue and it said that bungie is rumored to be working on a fps by the name of "Halo."

If it wasn't for Microsoft we would of had Halo on the Sony platform.

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#16 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

I would love that...

mitu123

I can see that...

I wouldn't mind, Sony v.s. Nintendo is better anyways IMO. Also, Rare would still be with Nintendo.

I totally forgot Rare, i wonder if they would be with Nintendo or they would be multiplat.

BTW, nobody believes that SEGA would still be in the console business?

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#17 jakehouston88
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[QUOTE="bc1391"]

Then some of my favorite games wouldn't exist.

nVidiaGaMer

Not really. Halo was actually supposed to be made for the PS2.

http://ps2.ign.com/objects/014/014552.html

It was also in my Official Playstation Mag issue and it said that bungie is rumored to be working on a fps by the name of "Halo."

If it wasn't for Microsoft we would of had Halo on the Sony platform.

:( . Only if M$ didn't go into gaming...

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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

I would love that...

mitu123

I can see that...

I wouldn't mind, Sony v.s. Nintendo is better anyways IMO. Also, Rare would still be with Nintendo.

No, Nintendo sold off its share because Rare the company that made classics didn't exist. All the main players from the company left.

And if Halo was a PC game instead... It would have been totally forgotten, what a good dream.

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#19 ragek1ll589
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:( . Only if M$ didn't go into gaming...

jakehouston88

As yes because their evil and dasterdly ways have brought upon so much pain and torment on this world :roll:.

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#20 Danm_999
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BTW, nobody believes that SEGA would still be in the console business?

madsnakehhh

No, Microsoft was never Sega's problem. Mismanagement and Sony were.

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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

:( . Only if M$ didn't go into gaming...

ragek1ll589

As yes because their evil and dasterdly ways have brought upon so much pain and torment on this world :roll:.

Exactly...WHY!!!

:P

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#22 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="bc1391"]

Then some of my favorite games wouldn't exist.

nVidiaGaMer

Not really. Halo was actually supposed to be made for the PS2.

http://ps2.ign.com/objects/014/014552.html

It was also in my Official Playstation Mag issue and it said that bungie is rumored to be working on a fps by the name of "Halo."

If it wasn't for Microsoft we would of had Halo on the Sony platform.

It was rumoured for PS2, but it wasn't ever going to pan out.

It was a PC/MAC game before Xbox.

http://web.archive.org/web/20060502035147/http://bungie.net/Inside/CustomPage.aspx?section=History&subsection=Main&page=6

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#23 masiisam
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Like them or not MS entering the industry has pushed everything forward......Without MS ....the PS3/PSN would for sure not be what it is today...

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#24 Mario2007
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Halo would have remained a PC RTS if the Xbox never existed, it wouldn't have gone on the Dreamcast.Danm_999
Actually Halo was originally planned to be put on the Dreamcast but got canned.
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#25 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]Halo would have remained a PC RTS if the Xbox never existed, it wouldn't have gone on the Dreamcast.Mario2007
Actually Halo was originally planned to be put on the Dreamcast but got canned.

You're going to have to provide a link. From what I've read, it was only ever seriously planned for on PC and MAC.
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#26 Renegade_Fury
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Microsoft supported Sega, so they would still be gone either way. The only difference for me would be that I'd be playing only on the PC and Nintendo consoles.

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#27 funsohng
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OMG NO DREAM CLUB no... that's just... not right....
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#28 Mario2007
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[QUOTE="Mario2007"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]Halo would have remained a PC RTS if the Xbox never existed, it wouldn't have gone on the Dreamcast.Danm_999
Actually Halo was originally planned to be put on the Dreamcast but got canned.

You're going to have to provide a link. From what I've read, it was only ever seriously planned for on PC and MAC.

Here ya go: http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=123873

Edit: Source is inside the forum post

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#29 menserman
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there wouldnt be online gamming. sega had the idea ms had the money and power to pull it off
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#30 CPM_basic
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Online on consoles would not be what it is today.

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#31 madsnakehhh
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Like them or not MS entering the industry has pushed everything forward......Without MS ....the PS3/PSN would for sure not be what it is today...

masiisam

I think that PS3 would still be the same, maybe not PSN.

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#32 jakehouston88
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Online on consoles would not be what it is today.

CPM_basic
Somebody would of got it right, eventually. :lol:
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#33 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Mario2007"]Actually Halo was originally planned to be put on the Dreamcast but got canned. Mario2007
You're going to have to provide a link. From what I've read, it was only ever seriously planned for on PC and MAC.

Here ya go: http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=123873

You realize the Dreamcast magazine was speculating that Halo might come to it? It even said "don't hold your breath". Before Xbox, Halo was a PC/MAC game. All we ever got for consoles were PS2/DC magazines speculating on/wishing for a port.
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the competition wouldnt be as fierce.

jessesalinas
That.
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#35 Mario2007
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Mario2007"][QUOTE="Danm_999"] You're going to have to provide a link. From what I've read, it was only ever seriously planned for on PC and MAC.

Here ya go: http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=123873

You realize the Dreamcast magazine was speculating that Halo might come to it? It even said "don't hold your breath". Before Xbox, Halo was a PC/MAC game. All we ever got for consoles were PS2/DC magazines speculating on/wishing for a port.

And so, if Xbox never came, the game probably would have been ported to PS2/DC.
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#36 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Mario2007"]Here ya go: http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=123873Mario2007
You realize the Dreamcast magazine was speculating that Halo might come to it? It even said "don't hold your breath". Before Xbox, Halo was a PC/MAC game. All we ever got for consoles were PS2/DC magazines speculating on/wishing for a port.

And so, if Xbox never came, the game probably would have been ported to PS2/DC.

That's pure speculation. These magazines are guessing (they even tell you not to hold your breath!). There was never any announcement.
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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="bc1391"]

Then some of my favorite games wouldn't exist.

Danm_999

Not really. Halo was actually supposed to be made for the PS2.

http://ps2.ign.com/objects/014/014552.html

It was also in my Official Playstation Mag issue and it said that bungie is rumored to be working on a fps by the name of "Halo."

If it wasn't for Microsoft we would of had Halo on the Sony platform.

It was rumoured for PS2, but it wasn't ever going to pan out.

It was a PC/MAC game before Xbox.

http://web.archive.org/web/20060502035147/http://bungie.net/Inside/CustomPage.aspx?section=History&subsection=Main&page=6

Still if Microsoft didn't acquire the rights to Halo then there would be a good chance for it coming to the PS2 ... more so if there was no such thing as an XBOX.

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#38 rybe1025
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This gen would suck if PS3 was the only HD console
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#39 Mario2007
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Mario2007"][QUOTE="Danm_999"] You realize the Dreamcast magazine was speculating that Halo might come to it? It even said "don't hold your breath". Before Xbox, Halo was a PC/MAC game. All we ever got for consoles were PS2/DC magazines speculating on/wishing for a port.

And so, if Xbox never came, the game probably would have been ported to PS2/DC.

That's pure speculation. These magazines are guessing (they even tell you not to hold your breath!). There was never any announcement.

Still possible.
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#41 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Mario2007"] And so, if Xbox never came, the game probably would have been ported to PS2/DC. Mario2007
That's pure speculation. These magazines are guessing (they even tell you not to hold your breath!). There was never any announcement.

Still possible.

But not probable. It's possibile gaming would have collapsed if Microsoft never released the Xbox, but we don't bother discussing it since it isn't probable.
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#42 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]This gen wouldrock if PS3 was the only HD consolejakehouston88

Fixed. ;)

Please. I would have to pay twice the price. All those junky multiplats is all I could play since the better 360 version is not out. Only racer would be that 7.5 $40 demo The PSN is already not as good as XBL just think if they did not even have anyone to go against online. There would be no improvements at all to PSN No Halo or Gears and the best FPS I could get was KZ2. Forget that 360 controller is FAR better the DS So many great console games I would miss out on.The 360 has the better game library going by scores on here and Gamerankings. Would have a much smaller game library then I could go on and on but bottom line is I for sure would just become a PC gamer.
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#43 madsnakehhh
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This gen would suck if PS3 was the only HD consolerybe1025

Then again, if the GC did a better job in sales, maybe Nintendo would had the money to make an HD console and what if DC2 were also an HD console.

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#44 Pandajerk29
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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

I would love that...

mitu123

I can see that...

I wouldn't mind, Sony v.s. Nintendo is better anyways IMO. Also, Rare would still be with Nintendo.

:), I can dream can't I.

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#45 Wii_Gamer_277
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If xbox didntt exist then all those ppl wouldn't have experienced the fun and joy of RROD.
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#46 zarshack
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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

I would love that...

mitu123

I can see that...

I wouldn't mind, Sony v.s. Nintendo is better anyways IMO. Also, Rare would still be with Nintendo.

this, we would have more donkey kong platforming games...

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#47 Pandajerk29
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

I would love that...

zarshack

I can see that...

I wouldn't mind, Sony v.s. Nintendo is better anyways IMO. Also, Rare would still be with Nintendo.

this, we would have more donkey kong platforming games...

i miss donkey kong...:(

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#48 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

Like them or not MS entering the industry has pushed everything forward......Without MS ....the PS3/PSN would for sure not be what it is today...

madsnakehhh

I think that PS3 would still be the same, maybe not PSN.

The competition is what made the PS3/PSN what it is today....just as the reason why MS entered the market was due to the competition........Meaning MS saw what Sony was doing and how much revenue was to be had...

Of course there would have been a PS3..a PS3 with the same specs that we have today...no way... That's just how industry works....

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#49 Burning-Sludge
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There would probably be an apple iBox. Sega killed itself and it's ghost whored itself to Nintendo.

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#50 treedoor
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I'd be a bit sadder