what is sony's fate this gen?

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#51 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

here are standings in sales:

1. Nintendo

2. Microsoft

3. Sony

sony can't get out of last.

but games-wise, here are the standings:

1. Sony

2. Microsoft

3. Nintendo

as you can see, it is the exact opposite. sony have already taken over when it comes to games. this is just the beginning of it all. the massive titles are still yet to hit. i doubt MS and nintendo can go at the rate of Sony in terms of quality titles.

the problem with your second argument is that it's incredibly debatable for me Nintendo has the best games With Microsft being a close second and Sony is dragging way behind.

how is sony dragging way behind?
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#52 ceruxx
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For those of you trying to respond to TheNextOrder - give up.

It's definitely not good. By the end of this gen Sony will most likely be last in sales, it's really all going to come down to 3 key factors:

Sony's plan to grab casual gamers: It's hard to say what they could do that Nintendo and MS haven't already done, it will take a lot of thinking and I can't see Sony doing much here but they have to find a way to get PS2 owners back. =/

Ninty and MS staying strong: Both the big N and MS did great this gen in terms if sales, they got their product out there and got some great 3rd party exclusives. If they can continue that momentum and not mess up or get cocky, than Sony will be in big trouble. After all, Nintendo did great with the cube, and Sega did great with the Dreamcast, but Sony was able to keep the momentum which killed them, which is why this is far more important than the first factor.

1st party titles: One of the reasons Nintendo was able to stay afloat with the cube was using their franchises and putting them on game boy to help them sell more on the consoles. Sony needs this, 3rd parties are going away from them slowly and they will need great 1st party games that will sell to keep them in the market so they can hopefully rebound next gen.

My thoughts on the matter, take it as you will. :)

Shy_Guy_Red

The dreamcast actually did pretty much the same as the saturn although a little better - it sold better in one market and not the other.

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#53 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

here are standings in sales:

1. Nintendo

2. Microsoft

3. Sony

sony can't get out of last.

but games-wise, here are the standings:

1. Sony

2. Microsoft

3. Nintendo

as you can see, it is the exact opposite. sony have already taken over when it comes to games. this is just the beginning of it all. the massive titles are still yet to hit. i doubt MS and nintendo can go at the rate of Sony in terms of quality titles.

the problem with your second argument is that it's incredibly debatable for me Nintendo has the best games With Microsft being a close second and Sony is dragging way behind.

how is sony dragging way behind?

well if the games were so much better then what the others had the games would a) sell a heck of a lot more and b) lead to more hardware sales
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#54 TheNextOrder
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of course they will survive. Nintendo took last place during the last 2 generations and look where they are now

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Nintendo also profited heavily during those two generations while Sony has lost billions in this one. Big difference.

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#55 ceruxx
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[QUOTE="fluffy_kins"]

of course they will survive. Nintendo took last place during the last 2 generations and look where they are now

TheNextOrder

Nintendo also profited heavily during those two generations while Sony has lost billions in this one. Big difference.

Sega survived after the Saturn, Sony can survive after the PS3 as long as they don't have another one.

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#56 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="fluffy_kins"]

of course they will survive. Nintendo took last place during the last 2 generations and look where they are now

TheNextOrder

Nintendo also profited heavily during those two generations while Sony has lost billions in this one. Big difference.

Sony's losses are decresing and their sales are increasing. This generation isn't over, so let's not write Sony at a complete failure with the PS3.

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#57 The_Brodeo
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I cannot help but to laugh at all this Lemming created doom and Gloom for Sony's future. The Gamecube was an utter disaster as well as XBOX 1 last gen yet here they still are stronger than ever. Sony at least has an amazing last two gens behind it. I am more curious of XBOX's fate if it cannot penetrate with any real numbers outside of North America. I ask the Fanboys not to reply it does not matter since we have watched Microsoft fall over itself to get asian gamers onboard.

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#58 cainetao11
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Losses on PS3 until later in it's life cycle. Sony will manage, and their PR is probably already learning from the arrogance mistake they made.
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#59 cainetao11
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Losses on PS3 until later in it's life cycle. Sony will manage, and their PR is probably already learning from the arrogance mistake they made.
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#60 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"] Mainly because I think they'll start to gain sales as soon as the PS3's price becomes more reasonable to the average consumer. As of now its still too expensive - and the Playstation brand itself is well known to people. Im sure all those PS2 owners haven't jumped into this generation yet as well.delta3074

The casual PS2 gamer, who waited for the PS2 to be $150-$200, is more likely to get either a Wii or a ProX360 when it hits $200. Brand loyalty has been greatly exaggerated by Sony.

But I do think the PS3 eventually outsells the X360, but not because of PS2 fans. But rather because of Japan and Europe.

it eventually will outsell the 360, but not before the next generation of consoles is released and only cos MS will drop the 360 the way they did the billbox, unlike sony who will continue to support the ps3 like thay did the ps2, anyone on here who think MS will not just drop the 360 at the end of the gen is deluded.

MS has no reason to drop the X360 since it's turning profit, which the Xbox1 was not.

I tend to think anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand business. :)

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#61 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"] each time I see you post, you must mention cows. why is that? lol.-Ichigo1987-

This is SW and this is a thread discussing the PS3's fate. Did I hurt your feelings?

:| wow, the man asked a simple question, judging by your rude, sarcasticreaction and how you just have to say cow in every post, I'm going to guess you're a lemming whose feelings were hurting last gen. Don't bother saying you own all 3 consoles, I do too.Doesn't change the fact that you're a lemming.

:lol: Why yes, I'm a Lem who owns & enjoys all 3 consoles and defends each.

If there weren't so many cows in SW, then I wouldn't play devil's advocate for the X360in SW.

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#62 gago-gago
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They'll make a come back next gen.

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#63 surrealnumber5
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I cannot help but to laugh at all this Lemming created doom and Gloom for Sony's future. The Gamecube was an utter disaster as well as XBOX 1 last gen yet here they still are stronger than ever. Sony at least has an amazing last two gens behind it. I am more curious of XBOX's fate if it cannot penetrate with any real numbers outside of North America. I ask the Fanboys not to reply it does not matter since we have watched Microsoft fall over itself to get asian gamers onboard.

The_Brodeo
the game cube was profitable
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#65 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="The_Brodeo"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="The_Brodeo"]

I cannot help but to laugh at all this Lemming created doom and Gloom for Sony's future. The Gamecube was an utter disaster as well as XBOX 1 last gen yet here they still are stronger than ever. Sony at least has an amazing last two gens behind it. I am more curious of XBOX's fate if it cannot penetrate with any real numbers outside of North America. I ask the Fanboys not to reply it does not matter since we have watched Microsoft fall over itself to get asian gamers onboard.

the game cube was profitable

That's the luxury of having outdated Tech and a rabid fanbase. Nintendo is very smart or the fanbase very dumb.....I don't know.

good games selling well is dumb and that is why sony are the smart ones
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#66 TheNextOrder
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After seeing the PS3 slim I'd say they're pretty much doomed.

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#67 recon-man
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there gonna be destroyed!!!!!!!!:D

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#68 Giancar
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there gonna be destroyed!!!!!!!!:D

recon-man
nice scores in your profile...
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#69 Giancar
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After seeing the PS3 slim I'd say they're pretty much doomed.

TheNextOrder
nahhhhh, it is a shame you can't argument your point anymore...
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#70 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="recon-man"]

there gonna be destroyed!!!!!!!!:D

Giancar

nice scores in your profile...

I loled at his scores. 1.0 means never touched them.

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#71 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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After seeing the PS3 slim I'd say they're pretty much doomed.

TheNextOrder

If the PS3 slim were something real and not rumor.

But since you are banned, I shouldn't really bother with a retort. :P