What is the big deal about GeOW2 graphics? Have people forgotten about UT3?

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#1 Timberwolf5578
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Unreal Tournament 3 has graphics just as good as GeOW2, and UT3 came out on PS3 back in 2007. So why the big fuss about GeOW2 graphics? GeOW2 graphics are good, but not the best. There are other games with equally good, or arguably better graphics. And anyways Uncharted 2 will have the best graphics when it comes out.
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#2 Episode_Eve
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Unreal Tournament 3 has graphics just as good as GeOW2, and UT3 came out on PS3 back in 2007. So why the big fuss about GeOW2 graphics? GeOW2 graphics are good, but not the best. There are other games with equally good, or arguably better graphics. And anyways Uncharted 2 will have the best graphics when it comes out.Timberwolf5578
UT3 looks good, but I think Gears 2 is better in instances. Also, it looks like Gears 2 borrowed Unreal Tournament's art style much more than the Gears 1. Lame.
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#3 Caseytappy
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The UE3 version used for UT3 is very different than the version for GEoW2 , it's a developing platform that changes constantly .

You sound uninformed and that makes you look foolish !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreal_engine

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#5 usule
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Looks like you haven't played the campaign...
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#6 McdonaIdsGuy
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No it doesn't :|.
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#7 GranReyUno
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Uh no it doesn't :|

Now Gears 2

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#8 skrat_01
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UT3 looks better on PC. As far as console games go GeOW2 looks great.
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#9 unknown37
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the only difference in GeOW2 & UT3 that I see is the soft body physcics (whatever its called IDK) in Gears 2. Aside from that they're practically identical. One day a while back I was playing UT3 and my brother came in & said "what u playing?" and then said "why's the guy from Gears in it?"
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#10 blitzcloud
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Uh no it doesn't :|

Now Gears 2

GranReyUno

Epic comparison!!! I mean, gameplay pic vs bullshot (most likely pre-rendered). First person shooter scene vs third person shooter scene. Architectures vs a swamp.

Really, Gametrailers should hire you!

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#11 Darkslayer16
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[QUOTE="GranReyUno"]

Uh no it doesn't :|

Now Gears 2

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Epic comparison!!! I mean, gameplay pic vs bullshot (most likely pre-rendered). First person shooter scene vs third person shooter scene. Architectures vs a swamp.

Really, Gametrailers should hire you!


Also chose a bad UT pic..
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#12 blitzcloud
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Yeah, but I didn't want to use that excuse (which is true btw) because automatically you get fanboys talking about how I'm going to search for bullshots or offscreen, etc. Anyways, comparison invalidated
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#13 GranReyUno
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[QUOTE="blitzcloud"][QUOTE="GranReyUno"]

Uh no it doesn't :|

Now Gears 2

Epic comparison!!! I mean, gameplay pic vs bullshot (most likely pre-rendered). First person shooter scene vs third person shooter scene. Architectures vs a swamp.

Really, Gametrailers should hire you!

I just picked whatever screens that was on GS's first page. Please feel free to post comparison pics that you think are better.
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#14 PAL360
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UT3, Gears1, MassEffect and others use Unreal Engine 3

Gears2 uses Unreal Engine 3.5

And the diference is pretty big, trust me ;)

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[QUOTE="blitzcloud"][QUOTE="GranReyUno"]

Uh no it doesn't :|

Now Gears 2

GranReyUno

Epic comparison!!! I mean, gameplay pic vs bullshot (most likely pre-rendered). First person shooter scene vs third person shooter scene. Architectures vs a swamp.

Really, Gametrailers should hire you!

I just picked whatever screens that was on GS's first page. Please feel free to post comparison pics that you think are better.

And that's supposed to justify it? If you cannot so much as identify authenticity in pics to make a comparison with, you shouldn't even be posting image comparisons.
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[QUOTE="GranReyUno"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

Epic comparison!!! I mean, gameplay pic vs bullshot (most likely pre-rendered). First person shooter scene vs third person shooter scene. Architectures vs a swamp.

Really, Gametrailers should hire you!

jhcho2
I just picked whatever screens that was on GS's first page. Please feel free to post comparison pics that you think are better.

And that's supposed to justify it? If you cannot so much as identify authenticity in pics to make a comparison with, you shouldn't even be posting image comparisons.

Instead of complaining about the pics used why not then find the best pics for both games and post them.

On topic-It is silly to say UT3 is just as good or better then gears. They are both from the same developer which are the same ones that made the unreal engine. Also Gears 2 has the most advanced form of that engine in a released game.

I am glad that PS3 users still need to try weak flaimbait bash threads on Gears 2 even though it is out and scored. It shows some feel threatened in some way about it. Fact is Gears is a better selling game series then anything on the PS3 including MGS4. Gears 2 has only been out less then 1/3 the time MGS has but according to VG Charts it has already out sold MGS4.

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#17 Master-Thief-09
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Gears 2 looks a lot better.
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#18 McdonaIdsGuy
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Gears 2 looks a lot better.Master-Thief-09
And i forgot UT3 looks and runs better on x360,so xbox360 still wins.
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#19 PAL360
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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]Gears 2 looks a lot better.McdonaIdsGuy
And i forgot UT3 looks and runs better on x360,so xbox360 still wins.

lol....thats true! PS3 cant even run Unreal Engine 3 properly while 360 games is starting to use the 3.5 version :P

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#20 crazy-player
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Uh no it doesn't :| *pics*GranReyUno

Uhh... yeah use a multiplayer pic of UT3 and a bullshot pic of Gears 2...

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Unreal Tournament 3 has graphics just as good as GeOW2, and UT3 came out on PS3 back in 2007. So why the big fuss about GeOW2 graphics? GeOW2 graphics are good, but not the best. There are other games with equally good, or arguably better graphics. And anyways Uncharted 2 will have the best graphics when it comes out.Timberwolf5578
I take it you've never played Gears 2.
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[QUOTE="Timberwolf5578"]Unreal Tournament 3 has graphics just as good as GeOW2, and UT3 came out on PS3 back in 2007. So why the big fuss about GeOW2 graphics? GeOW2 graphics are good, but not the best. There are other games with equally good, or arguably better graphics. And anyways Uncharted 2 will have the best graphics when it comes out.Episode_Eve
UT3 looks good, but I think Gears 2 is better in instances. Also, it looks like Gears 2 borrowed Unreal Tournament's art style much more than the Gears 1. Lame.

Gears 2 looks visually inferior than Gears 1. But, technically better....Lol...Weird.
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#23 ras2009
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UT3 on the PC the image quality is a bit meh but thats down to fraps
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#24 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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UT3 dosent even look as good as gears 1 so how could it possibly match gears 2 :lol: ?
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#25 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="GranReyUno"]

Uh no it doesn't :| *pics*crazy-player

Uhh... yeah use a multiplayer pic of UT3 and a bullshot pic of Gears 2...

Gears 2 looks like that while playing
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#26 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="GranReyUno"]

Uh no it doesn't :| *pics*DivergeUnify

Uhh... yeah use a multiplayer pic of UT3 and a bullshot pic of Gears 2...

Gears 2 looks like that while playing

:lol:

Really? Last time I checked Gears 2 had a HUD, and no AA, and wasn't viewed at that perspective.

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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] Uhh... yeah use a multiplayer pic of UT3 and a bullshot pic of Gears 2...

crazy-player

Gears 2 looks like that while playing

:lol:

Really? Last time I checked Gears 2 had a HUD, and no AA, and wasn't viewed at that perspective.

so because it doesn't have a hud, the real gameplay MUST look worse? If AA is the best you can do, that's an image quality option. Everything else, the

textures, character models, weapon models and whatever else you can see in that picture, looks the same when actually playying and stop talking out of your ass,

please. I've played and beaten Gears 2. You haven't

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#28 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] Gears 2 looks like that while playingDivergeUnify

:lol:

Really? Last time I checked Gears 2 had a HUD, and no AA, and wasn't viewed at that perspective.

so because it doesn't have a hud, the real gameplay MUST look worse? If AA is the best you can do, that's an image quality option. Everything else, the

textures, character models, weapon models and whatever else you can see in that picture, looks the same when actually playying and stop talking out of your ass,

please. I've played and beaten Gears 2. You haven't

Talking out of my ass? I have played and beaten Gears 2, stop talking crap. It's a bullshot, it doesn't look that good in-game. And yeah, AA is important, it makes it look better.
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#29 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="GranReyUno"]

Uh no it doesn't :|

Now Gears 2

blitzcloud

Epic comparison!!! I mean, gameplay pic vs bullshot (most likely pre-rendered). First person shooter scene vs third person shooter scene. Architectures vs a swamp.

Really, Gametrailers should hire you!

The second pic is not a bull shot. If you played the game you would realize that is the leviathan boss before you enter the locust city.

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#30 Darkslayer16
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="GranReyUno"]

Uh no it doesn't :| *pics*DivergeUnify

Uhh... yeah use a multiplayer pic of UT3 and a bullshot pic of Gears 2...

Gears 2 looks like that while playing


No it doesnt..
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#31 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"][QUOTE="GranReyUno"]

Uh no it doesn't :| Now Gears 2

Epic comparison!!! I mean, gameplay pic vs bullshot (most likely pre-rendered). First person shooter scene vs third person shooter scene. Architectures vs a swamp.

Really, Gametrailers should hire you!

The second pic is not a bull shot. If you played the game you would realize that is the leviathan boss before you enter the locust city.

Yes it is a bullshot. Does it matter what boss it is?
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#33 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

Epic comparison!!! I mean, gameplay pic vs bullshot (most likely pre-rendered). First person shooter scene vs third person shooter scene. Architectures vs a swamp.

Really, Gametrailers should hire you!

crazy-player

The second pic is not a bull shot. If you played the game you would realize that is the leviathan boss before you enter the locust city.

Yes it is a bullshot. Does it matter what boss it is?

No its not a bullshot. Get over yourself man. I've played the game as well at 1080p on my 40" samsung and that isn't a bull shot. Just because there is no HUD doesn't make it a bull shot.
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[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

Epic comparison!!! I mean, gameplay pic vs bullshot (most likely pre-rendered). First person shooter scene vs third person shooter scene. Architectures vs a swamp.

Really, Gametrailers should hire you!

crazy-player

The second pic is not a bull shot. If you played the game you would realize that is the leviathan boss before you enter the locust city.

Yes it is a bullshot. Does it matter what boss it is?

It isn't a BS pic, its just as added AA, so it looks more clean and sharp..the detail is about right, PLAY IT ON A HDTV and it looks that good. People really need to stop using the PR Bullshot excuses around here. Its only a AA issue, not detail. Yeeesh!
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#35 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="sirk1264"]

The second pic is not a bull shot. If you played the game you would realize that is the leviathan boss before you enter the locust city.

Eyezonmii
Yes it is a bullshot. Does it matter what boss it is?

It isn't a BS pic, its just as added AA, so it looks more clean and sharp..the detail is about right, PLAY IT ON A HDTV and it looks that good. People really need to stop using the PR Bullshot excuses around here. Its only a AA issue, not detail. Yeeesh!

No, people like you need to stop using the "it's not a bullshot" excuse around here. It's a bullshot, what makes a bullshot is a modifying a picture, and adding AA is modifying it. So it is a bullshot.
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] Uhh... yeah use a multiplayer pic of UT3 and a bullshot pic of Gears 2...

Darkslayer16
Gears 2 looks like that while playing


No it doesnt..

Yes it does, it just as added AA (common with PR SHOTS) so it looks more sharper. the detail is about right.
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#37 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="sirk1264"]

The second pic is not a bull shot. If you played the game you would realize that is the leviathan boss before you enter the locust city.

Eyezonmii
Yes it is a bullshot. Does it matter what boss it is?

It isn't a BS pic, its just as added AA, so it looks more clean and sharp..the detail is about right, PLAY IT ON A HDTV and it looks that good. People really need to stop using the PR Bullshot excuses around here. Its only a AA issue, not detail. Yeeesh!

Thank you and I agree about the AA but the rest of it is in game.
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#38 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] Yes it is a bullshot. Does it matter what boss it is?crazy-player
It isn't a BS pic, its just as added AA, so it looks more clean and sharp..the detail is about right, PLAY IT ON A HDTV and it looks that good. People really need to stop using the PR Bullshot excuses around here. Its only a AA issue, not detail. Yeeesh!

No, people like you need to stop using the "it's not a bullshot" excuse around here. It's a bullshot, what makes a bullshot is a modifying a picture, and adding AA is modifying it. So it is a bullshot.

If that is the only argument you got then its a piss poor one. The detail of marcus in that pic represents the detail that is on thegame as well as the environment and on that tentacle on the leviathan boss. You're fighting a losing battle.
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#39 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] Yes it is a bullshot. Does it matter what boss it is?crazy-player
It isn't a BS pic, its just as added AA, so it looks more clean and sharp..the detail is about right, PLAY IT ON A HDTV and it looks that good. People really need to stop using the PR Bullshot excuses around here. Its only a AA issue, not detail. Yeeesh!

No, people like you need to stop using the "it's not a bullshot" excuse around here. It's a bullshot, what makes a bullshot is a modifying a picture, and adding AA is modifying it. So it is a bullshot.

No it isn't, stop making things up, the perspective view is modified to give a better angle and show more off (another common aspect of PR shots), the pic is gameplay/in-game...since its a PR shot its just has better AA...thats it. Have you even played the game?

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#40 crazy-player
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Please, read my post above. It's a bullshot, added AA, and check the quality. It's 720p, native. Gears 2 is not 720p native, check the UT3 screen that the guy compared it to. The quality of the UT3 pic is crappier, that's because its an in-game screenshot.
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"] And i forgot UT3 looks and runs better on x360,so xbox360 still wins.LookAnDrolL

lol....thats true! PS3 cant even run Unreal Engine 3 properly while 360 games is starting to use the 3.5 version :P

Yeah thats why the PS3 version scored more than the 360 version here on Gamespot and on IGN. Interesting FANBOY logic. PC Version owns both. Now GTFO.

If people scored games because of graphics, PC would always get a 10. Logic failed.
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#42 sirk1264
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Please, read my post above. It's a bullshot, added AA, and check the quality. It's 720p, native. Gears 2 is not 720p native, check the UT3 screen that the guy compared it to. The quality of the UT3 pic is crappier, that's because its an in-game screenshot.crazy-player
Provide a link that Gears 2 isn't 720p native.
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#43 Master-Thief-09
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Please, read my post above. It's a bullshot, added AA, and check the quality. It's 720p, native. Gears 2 is not 720p native, check the UT3 screen that the guy compared it to. The quality of the UT3 pic is crappier, that's because its an in-game screenshot.crazy-player
AA is correct, but Gears 2 is 720p :| Who told you otherwise? Link please.
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#44 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] It isn't a BS pic, its just as added AA, so it looks more clean and sharp..the detail is about right, PLAY IT ON A HDTV and it looks that good. People really need to stop using the PR Bullshot excuses around here. Its only a AA issue, not detail. Yeeesh!Eyezonmii
No, people like you need to stop using the "it's not a bullshot" excuse around here. It's a bullshot, what makes a bullshot is a modifying a picture, and adding AA is modifying it. So it is a bullshot.

No it isn't, stop making things up, the perspective view is modified to give a better angle and show more off, the pic is gameplay...since its a PR shot its just has better AA...thats it. Have you even played the game?

I'm not making things up. I have the game and I have beaten it. It's a great game, and is currently the console graphics king imo, I am not bashing it, it's just that people make ridiculous claims that the pic is not a bullshot, when it is.
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#45 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"] Provide a link that Gears 2 isn't 720p native.sirk1264
[QUOTE="crazy-player"]Please, read my post above. It's a bullshot, added AA, and check the quality. It's 720p, native. Gears 2 is not 720p native, check the UT3 screen that the guy compared it to. The quality of the UT3 pic is crappier, that's because its an in-game screenshot.Master-Thief-09
AA is correct, but Gears 2 is 720p :| Who told you otherwise? Link please.

Sorry, I just checked. I was misinformed, it is 720p. It's still a bullshot though.
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#46 Master-Thief-09
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You are making a big deal of AA, so here:

High AA:

Low AA (i.e. not a bullshot):

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#47 crazy-player
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You are making a big deal of AA, so here: *pics*Master-Thief-09

That's my point, the second pic looks much worse than the top one, it looks uglier and not as sharp. AA makes a difference.

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#48 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] [QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"][QUOTE="crazy-player"]Please, read my post above. It's a bullshot, added AA, and check the quality. It's 720p, native. Gears 2 is not 720p native, check the UT3 screen that the guy compared it to. The quality of the UT3 pic is crappier, that's because its an in-game screenshot.crazy-player
AA is correct, but Gears 2 is 720p :| Who told you otherwise? Link please.

Sorry, I just checked. I was misinformed, it is 720p. It's still a bullshot though.

You seemed misinformed about alot of things and just because a pic has AA doesn't mean its a bull shot as a poster already showed you.
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#49 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]

You are making a big deal of AA, so here: *pics*crazy-player

That's my point, the second pic looks much worse than the top one, it looks uglier and not as sharp. AA makes a difference.

With the exception of AA everything looks the same. What's the big ****** deal?
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#50 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="sirk1264"] AA is correct, but Gears 2 is 720p :| Who told you otherwise? Link please.sirk1264
Sorry, I just checked. I was misinformed, it is 720p. It's still a bullshot though.

You seemed misinformed about alot of things and just because a pic has AA doesn't mean its a bull shot as a poster already showed you.

Prove to me that modifying a screenshot to make it better is not considered a bullshot.