What is the Citizen Kane of videogames?

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#1 clubsammich91
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I read this article on GamesRadar and it was very intersting

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/the-citizen-kanes-of-videogames/a-20090723134438115098

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#2 cody3232
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Out of the choices in the article Mario, but if i had to say one it would be Ocarina of time or final fantasy 7 or maybe pac man or something.

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#3 topgunmv
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Mario

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#4 Wii_Gamer_277
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Gears of war 2 because it has blood and chainsaws and stuff.
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Gears of war 2 because it has blood and chainsaws and stuff.Wii_Gamer_277
Oh, so you're a lemming. :P

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#6 VendettaRed07
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Im going to say Legend of Zelda. Because that was like the first game of its kind, were you needed to save because it was so complex that it couldnt be beat in one sitting, it was a new kind of beast. It was the first real adventure in gaming imo.

Mario is more like Gone with the wind lmao

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#7 cutmaclass1
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A Link to the Past, Chrono Trigger, or Final Fantasy VI. The original Mario/Zelda games are more like the "Nosferatu" and Charlie Chaplin of video games. It's all much too simple. The forties in film are much more similar to SNES/Genesis days in that you were getting stronger clarity and more complexity both in narrative and in character development.
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#8 RedruM_I
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[QUOTE="cutmaclass1"]A Link to the Past, Chrono Trigger, or Final Fantasy VI.

You are so right is not even funny. I would add Super Metroid.
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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="cutmaclass1"]A Link to the Past, Chrono Trigger, or Final Fantasy VI.

You are so right is not even funny. I would add Super Metroid.

What's funny is that I was actually considering that.
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[QUOTE="cutmaclass1"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="cutmaclass1"]A Link to the Past, Chrono Trigger, or Final Fantasy VI.

You are so right is not even funny. I would add Super Metroid.

What's funny is that I was actually considering that.

Some people say "great minds think alike" ;)
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#11 Eddie-Vedder
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I guess there is more then one right answer but I don't agree with Mario, Citizen Kane was an evolution in techniques and story telling, camera work etc As inspired as the Mario's were and are, I just don't think it fits.

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#12 Vaasman
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Sorry but CoD 4 is not video games' Citizen Kane. No ****ing way.

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#13 AAllxxjjnn
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Umm, we don't even have one yet...and won't for a while.
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Day-ooossss ecks
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#15 Melkari
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Wow, if you haven't played Silent Hill 2 yet, you better not read that part of the article. Pretty much ruins the entire story in one parenthetical aside.

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#16 DJ_Lae
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I'd say Mario. There were games that came before (Pong, Space Invaders, Pac-Man, etc) but Mario brought something new to videogames. I don't think there's a complete match in terms of Citizen Kane's place in the movie timeline, but it's one of the games with the least room to argue against.

Sorry but CoD 4 is not video games' Citizen Kane. No ****ing way.

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Agreed. There's no way it should even come near a list like that.
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Wow. They put COD4 on there. *facepalm*
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#18 Wii_Gamer_277
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Devil may cry :|:|

CoD4:|:|:|:| wow.....

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#19 clubsammich91
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Sorry but CoD 4 is not video games' Citizen Kane. No ****ing way.

Vaasman
That list wasn't a top 10. It was just showing the innovative games over the years.
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#20 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Sorry but CoD 4 is not video games' Citizen Kane. No ****ing way.

clubsammich91
That list wasn't a top 10. It was just showing the innovative games over the years.

Call of Duty 4 was innovative? :|
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#21 glez13
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That article had a lot of arguable points. Well maybe now some people will stop the nonsense that JRPs inspired WRPGs.

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#22 DucksBrains
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Sorry but CoD 4 is not video games' Citizen Kane. No ****ing way.

Stevo_the_gamer

That list wasn't a top 10. It was just showing the innovative games over the years.

Call of Duty 4 was innovative? :|

Not only that but:

Pioneered: Innovative storytelling techniques that used multiple characters and perspectives, RPG-style multiplayer progression.

I have to laugh at the above criteria.

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#23 DJ_Lae
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Sorry but CoD 4 is not video games' Citizen Kane. No ****ing way.

That list wasn't a top 10. It was just showing the innovative games over the years.

Call of Duty 4 was innovative? :|

Call of Duty 4 had innovative use of enemy spawn points and cutoff triggers.
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#24 PBSnipes
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That article is a microcosm of all that is wrong with gaming. :(

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#25 clubsammich91
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Sorry but CoD 4 is not video games' Citizen Kane. No ****ing way.

Stevo_the_gamer
That list wasn't a top 10. It was just showing the innovative games over the years.

Call of Duty 4 was innovative? :|

Oh, c'mon. Your gonna sit there and tell me that COD4s MP wasn't slightly addictive?
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#26 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"] That list wasn't a top 10. It was just showing the innovative games over the years.clubsammich91
Call of Duty 4 was innovative? :|

Oh, c'mon. Your gonna sit there and tell me that COD4s MP wasn't slightly addictive?

Addictive =/= innovation. And personally, no, I thought CoD 4's MP was hyper-streamlined and boring.

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I'd say Tetris.

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definaly mario it ther was no mario we might not have ever recovered from the crash
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#29 blues35301
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Cod4 got mentioned but no crysis for its extensive freedom in gameplay?

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#30 luisen123
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Hey, you visit Gamesradar, you're now officialy awesome! :P I agreed with most of the article, they had strong points for what they claimed.
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Chrono Trigger.
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UnderTaker wayyyyy better than Kane
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#33 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"] That list wasn't a top 10. It was just showing the innovative games over the years.clubsammich91
Call of Duty 4 was innovative? :|

Oh, c'mon. Your gonna sit there and tell me that COD4s MP wasn't slightly addictive?

Well hey I guess WoW is the most innovative game ever with that logic, right? Oh wait....

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#34 naval
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From that list Ultima 3 easily, while the article says it had influence on all JRPGs, it forgets to mention that it had huge influence on WRPGS too. That said most of the article is pretty lame

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#35 Salt_The_Fries
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First System Shock or Ultima Underworld: Stygian Abyss. Though desperation to find some equivalent in video-games to some axiom from other medium is just cheesy.
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COD4 sure as hell isn't And im not sure if *two* Half Life title need to be there. Deus Ex should be there, without a doubt.
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#37 xXTalismanXx
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I stopped taking this list seriously when they didn't even add Chrono Trigger, and for some reason they called Cod4 innovative? That is just so cute, they sound like they started playing FPS's recently. Call of duty 4 stole it;s RPG progression based Multiplayer from Rainbow Six, which by far has so much more depth than COD4. And I think Halo: Combat Evolved should replace COD4, considering it showed that not only really talented people can make FPS's on consoles(Goldeneye), but also simpleton's. Goldeneye should replace Half-Life 2, no offense. Other than that, some really bad choices, but also some good ones.

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#38 limegut
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If there was anything comparable it would be the Gran Turismo franchise. It goes from

1: perfect

2: impossible (600 cars in one game)

3: best graphics seen in a game although sligtly less cars (my least fave)

4: hyper-perfect

PSP: (unreleased) ZOMFG!!! 800 CARS???

5: ZOMFG!!! 1K CARZ!?!?!?

5: (again) ZOMFG!!! F16s and NASCAR?!?!?

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#39 NBSRDan
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Depending on what you mean with the Citizen Kane simile, either The Legend of Zelda or Half-Life 2.
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#40 CrazyyyDylan
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I am going to go with Deus Ex. Everytime you mention the game at least one person will reinstall it. But back to the point, the game's gameplay is timeless and the story is very deep and keeps you engaged.
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I reckon there hasn't been one yet, but Heavy Rain looks really good, and if it combines gameplay and story like it shows in the trailers i think it could be the Citizen Kane of games.

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Legend of Zelda: OoT, LoZ: aLttP, PlaneScape Torment, XenoGears, Vagrant Story, FF6, Half Life 2IMO of course.

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#43 Chaos_HL21
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I would say Command and Conqure and Legend of Kane :P

Anyways I would really say Chrono Trigger, Sim City, and Half Life. Why is Call of Duty 4 on that list?

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#44 Wii_Gamer_277
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]COD4 sure as hell isn't And im not sure if *two* Half Life title need to be there. Deus Ex should be there, without a doubt.

I think Half life 2 should be there 1 is great but half life 2 is just sooooooooooooo much better.
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#45 mo0ksi
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The only game that I can say that about is Deus Ex. Why the hell is CoD4 and Devil May Cry on there?
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That's a pretty good list of influential games. The only one on there that blatantly doesn't belong is CoD4.

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That's a pretty good list of influential games. The only one on there that blatantly doesn't belong is CoD4.

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And Half-Life 2.
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#48 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

That's a pretty good list of influential games. The only one on there that blatantly doesn't belong is CoD4.

Stevo_the_gamer

And Half-Life 2.

Why not? its pretty much storytelling perfection, and one of the most thoughtfully and intelligently designed games to this day. I don't think two Half Life games should be there though.

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Ocarina of Time > Final Fantasy 7

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#50 SpinoRaptor24
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Did they have to put multiple games from the same series?