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#1 CaptainAhab13
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Just when do you consider a game dead?

I play some games quite a bit with a few hundred active players, and my friends all say the multiplayer is absolutley dead. :confused: Not according to me!

How about you?

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#2 JohnF111
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Probably 500 players and no active matches at any given time, 1000 is fairly slow I guess but not entirely dead. Dead assumes there's no pulse at all, rarely does any game not have at least one match a day, i'd say that would still be alive but I wouldn't expect a quick match.

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#3 GTSaiyanjin2
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As long as the servers are up and I'm able to play it its not dead to me.

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#4 SPYDER0416
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I'd say it depends on the type of game. If its a major game full of modes and maps and stuff, then at 500 or less 80% of those modes and maps won't be touched in favor of the standby favorites, and it will be hard to find a server with people who aren't hackers or level one million.

With games that are smaller in scope or more indie, 500 is actually pretty decent. Payday for example, tends to only have about that many players a lot of times, but its hard not to find a match or get some players in a level and difficulty of your choosing, because its a smaller indie game with simpler choices.

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#5 topgunmv
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There are about 0 people playing shattered horizon online on any given night.

Without being literally dead?

There are about 5 people playing serious sam 3 online on any given night.

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#6 thphaca
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Not even 500, just a couple peeps at my favorite servers. In Q3, there was a small community of less than 100 peeps in version 1.30 that I cared about. Same goes for the RA3 mod in 1.32. When you get into the really tight-knitt niche mods like InstaUnlagged CTF with railjumps, you start to really rely on networking to set up games rather than expecting someone to already be there. Clans provided an incentive (clan battles) for setting up matches. When that community collapses, I consider the game dead.

Of course in modern games, it depends on the genre. What I described above somewhat applies to an FPS like COD4, but for an "MMOFPS," as I like to call it- like Battlefield BC2, I expect a much larger number of players because.. well you're supposed to get the full war experience.

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#7 Demonjoe93
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When I can't find a decent sized lobby consistently.

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#8 Bigboi500
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I'd say when there's less than 2, 000 or so worldwide players, because it makes matchmaking very lengthy sometimes. *coughhaloreachcough*

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#9 BrunoBRS
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when i can't play whichever i want, whenever i want.
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#10 BrunoBRS
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I'd say when there's less than 2, 000 or so worldwide players, because it makes matchmaking very lengthy sometimes. *coughhaloreachcough*

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zombie mode or GTFO. at least that's how i play with my friends... or else we can't find a match >.>
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#11 Moriarity_
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If it takes me more than 5 minutes to find a decent sized match then I consider the online mode dead.

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#12 Vari3ty
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Honestly anything under 5,000 seems pretty much dead to me.

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#13 DJ_Headshot
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When no one plays it any more or a very small amount of people play but its to few people in a game that needs alot more players to enjoy. The haunted mod for ut3 was 4 player max coop game so as long as there was one server with 1-3 players was enough for me to enjoy the game for something like shattered horizon which sis player vs player mp shooter that's just not enough people need at bare minimum of 6 people and optimally a good 10+ players to enjoy the game although no one plays that game anymore though so its completly died now. Blur has like 8-30 people playing on the pc version online when I log on and that's enough for me to enjoy it even though its matchmaking since it tells you how many people are playing each gamemode so your not searching for games in the dark in game modes no one is playing.
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#14 DarkLink77
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I'd say when there's less than 2, 000 or so worldwide players, because it makes matchmaking very lengthy sometimes. *coughhaloreachcough*

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There are more than 2000 people playing Team Slayer alone at any given time in Reach. :?
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#15 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I'd say when there's less than 2, 000 or so worldwide players, because it makes matchmaking very lengthy sometimes. *coughhaloreachcough*

DarkLink77

There are more than 2000 people playing Team Slayer alone at any given time in Reach. :?

Not when I was playing last night. It was around 1,200. The other modes were in the low 100s.

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#16 CaptainAhab13
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I'd say when there's less than 2, 000 or so worldwide players, because it makes matchmaking very lengthy sometimes. *coughhaloreachcough*

Bigboi500

There are more than 2000 people playing Team Slayer alone at any given time in Reach. :?

Not when I was playing last night. It was around 1,200. The other modes were in the low 100s.

Oh my God has Halo really gotten to numbers that low? I haven't played Halo since Halo 3, but I remember when that came out, it seemed like the entire gaming world was playing it.
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#17 DJ_Headshot
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] There are more than 2000 people playing Team Slayer alone at any given time in Reach. :?CaptainAhab13

Not when I was playing last night. It was around 1,200. The other modes were in the low 100s.

Oh my God has Halo really gotten to numbers that low? I haven't played Halo since Halo 3, but I remember when that came out, it seemed like the entire gaming world was playing it.

Call of Duty 4 an above happened
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#18 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I'd say when there's less than 2, 000 or so worldwide players, because it makes matchmaking very lengthy sometimes. *coughhaloreachcough*

Bigboi500

There are more than 2000 people playing Team Slayer alone at any given time in Reach. :?

Not when I was playing last night. It was around 1,200. The other modes were in the low 100s.

Huh. Well, it was when I played the other day. Usually it's more active than that. I generally see 40,000 people or more on.
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#19 CaptainAhab13
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[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Not when I was playing last night. It was around 1,200. The other modes were in the low 100s.DJ_Headshot
Oh my God has Halo really gotten to numbers that low? I haven't played Halo since Halo 3, but I remember when that came out, it seemed like the entire gaming world was playing it.

Call of Duty 4 an above happened

Yeah, I remember seeing news articles the week CoD4 topped Xbox LIVE charts over Halo 3. Little did I realize then what that would mean from then to the present day for the multiplayer shooter industry. :P
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#20 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] There are more than 2000 people playing Team Slayer alone at any given time in Reach. :?DarkLink77

Not when I was playing last night. It was around 1,200. The other modes were in the low 100s.

Huh. Well, it was when I played the other day. Usually it's more active than that. I generally see 40,000 people or more on.

Here lately when I've been playing, most matches have been having severe lag issues, and I can't figure out why.

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#21 finalstar2007
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Dead online is when i cant find a single player playing online.. that only happened when i played Gears of War 2, there was nobody playing that game

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#22 Nonstop-Madness
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Dead Online = only a handful of active matches.
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Not being able to find a full match.
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#25 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Not when I was playing last night. It was around 1,200. The other modes were in the low 100s.

Bigboi500

Huh. Well, it was when I played the other day. Usually it's more active than that. I generally see 40,000 people or more on.

Here lately when I've been playing, most matches have been having severe lag issues, and I can't figure out why.

Yeah, that happened to me recently for a couple days. It's fine now, though.
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#26 StrongDeadlift
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Any game on PS3 that isnt Call of Duty or Battlefield.

The ONLY exception being Uncharted 3/2, but those arent anywhere near mainstream.

Killzone, nobody plays. Sometimes you cant even get into games on Killzone 3 because people arent playing, and when you do its NEVER a full game. According to the Killzone 2 MyKillzone page there are 22 logged in players playing Killzone 2 right now :lol: (ive seen that number as low as 2 before).

Anything else isnt even worth mentioning. Resistance? :lol:

Twisted broken netcode Metal? :lol: it got to the point where David Jaffe was telling people to do tricks with their router to get the game to work :lol:

Starhawk? I was in the beta when it started, there was only like 13 players. :lol:

D(ead on arrival)ust514? :lol:

The hilarious part is.....even though im trolling, everything im saying is actually true :lol::lol::lol:

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#27 arkephonic
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It's dead if it isn't reaching Modern Warfare 3 / Counter Strike Source numbers, a.k.a. around 1 million online at any given time.

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#28 cain006
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If you can get into the game you want quickly, it's not dead.

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#29 CaptainAhab13
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It's dead if it isn't reaching Modern Warfare 3 / Counter Strike Source numbers, a.k.a. around 1 million online at any given time.

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#30 arto1223
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There are about 0 people playing shattered horizon online on any given night.

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Awww... please don't remind me. That was such a great game.

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#32 Arach666
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As long as I can find as single server with people on it then it isin´t dead as far as I´m concerned,games with matchmaking have it worse though,wich is why servers should always be available for games,at least on the PC.
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#33 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I'd say when there's less than 2, 000 or so worldwide players, because it makes matchmaking very lengthy sometimes. *coughhaloreachcough*

DarkLink77
There are more than 2000 people playing Team Slayer alone at any given time in Reach. :?

Yeah wtf, getting a match in Halo is actually pretty quick. Hell I'd imagine even Halo 3 is doing fine still.
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#34 Senor_Kami
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I don't know the numbers and I mostly play fighting games, but when I wait one or two minutes and I can't get a match going in a mode, that's dead to me. In other genres where you're playing with a bunch of people, maybe you have to wait one or two minutes but at least you can see people filling in. A fighter is 1v1 so when nobody is coming it feels like there is literally nobody but you playing the game.
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#35 BlbecekBobecek
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Its dead for me when I can't get into a game within 2 or 3 minutes.

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#36 The_Pacific
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Most Ps3 MP exclusive titles are what I'd consider a dead zone.

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#37 lowkey254
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Any game on PS3 that isnt Call of Duty or Battlefield.

The ONLY exception being Uncharted 3/2, but those arent anywhere near mainstream.

Killzone, nobody plays. Sometimes you cant even get into games on Killzone 3 because people arent playing, and when you do its NEVER a full game. According to the Killzone 2 MyKillzone page there are 22 logged in players playing Killzone 2 right now :lol: (ive seen that number as low as 2 before).

Anything else isnt even worth mentioning. Resistance? :lol:

Twisted broken netcode Metal? :lol: it got to the point where David Jaffe was telling people to do tricks with their router to get the game to work :lol:

Starhawk? I was in the beta when it started, there was only like 13 players. :lol:

D(ead on arrival)ust514? :lol:

The hilarious part is.....even though im trolling, everything im saying is actually true :lol::lol::lol:

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not too sure about kz3, I get on and get in full matches. I never see the same person twice. Starhawk the same thing. Maybe it's my region or something but...yeah.
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When a game hits Red Orchestra 2 levels of players.

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#39 AcidSoldner
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When I can't find a full match or decent sized match is when I consider the game dead.

Medal of Honor on the 360 usually has around 400 or so players but I never having any problems finding a full match on Combat Mission and Team Assault despite the small community size.

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#40 xOMGITSJASONx
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when you can't find a match no matter how long you wait...thats dead. I played that HAWX 2 one hour PSN+ demo not too long ago and found a couple of multiplayer matches online. You never know what is alive either.

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#41 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I'd say when there's less than 2, 000 or so worldwide players, because it makes matchmaking very lengthy sometimes. *coughhaloreachcough*

Bigboi500

There are more than 2000 people playing Team Slayer alone at any given time in Reach. :?

Not when I was playing last night. It was around 1,200. The other modes were in the low 100s.

Wow, thats insane, even Black Ops on THE WII has over 20,000 active players round the clock, and thats after taking a hit from MW3 release. Surprised a halo game is that low :?

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When a game hits Red Orchestra 2 levels of players.

Wasdie
not only is that dead but they made horrible decisions like bots to count as people in the server browser
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I guess when moderately players start to dissapear.

Near the end there's nothing but really good players, scrubs and assh*les.

When you see that you know the online is dead.

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] There are more than 2000 people playing Team Slayer alone at any given time in Reach. :?WreckEm711

Not when I was playing last night. It was around 1,200. The other modes were in the low 100s.

Wow, thats insane, even Black Ops on THE WII has over 20,000 active players round the clock, and thats after taking a hit from MW3 release. Surprised a halo game is that low :?

BigBoi is full of it or was on at like 3AM. At peak time you can find nearly 150,000 still playing Reach. The Team Slayer playlist alone usually averages around 10,000.
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#45 AcidSoldner
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

When a game hits Red Orchestra 2 levels of players.

JigglyWiggly_
not only is that dead but they made horrible decisions like bots to count as people in the server browser

Just about every game with bot and server browser support has had that since online gamings inception. It's damned deceiving.
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#46 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Not when I was playing last night. It was around 1,200. The other modes were in the low 100s.

AcidSoldner

Wow, thats insane, even Black Ops on THE WII has over 20,000 active players round the clock, and thats after taking a hit from MW3 release. Surprised a halo game is that low :?

BigBoi is full of it or was on at like 3AM. At peak time you can find nearly 150,000 still playing Reach. The Team Slayer playlist alone usually averages around 10,000.

It was late when I was playing, but surely not the middle of the night all around the world?

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If I can't join a match that's at least three-quarters full or so. Honestly, that rarely happens though. Every games seems to have at least a handful of diehard followers.

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#48 meetroid8
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When I'm no longer able to find a server within a reasonable amount of time.
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#49 bonesawisready5
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I wish Snoopy Flying Ace still had a big community. I dropped it for six months and then barely find anyone. Such a fun game.

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#50 mccoyca112
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When I literally cannot find a server, and when I do, it has 2 people. There have been a large amount of titles that had me playing for long stretches of time when 3-6 servers were the norm. In a sense, I like that better. It becomes it's own little community with regulars keeping it alive.