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#101 Drakan11
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

The games. Can't play Uncharted or Reach on my PC.

PublicNuisance

Considering we have more exclusives on PC than any one console I think it's us that have the games.

People don't get something because of the amount of exclusives, they get it because of what the exclusives are. Sorry, but not many people want to play the obscure niche titles on the PC over the powerhouse exclusives that come out on the consoles.

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#102 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

The games. Can't play Uncharted or Reach on my PC.

Drakan11

Considering we have more exclusives on PC than any one console I think it's us that have the games.

People don't get something because of the amount of exclusives, they get it because of what the exclusives are. Sorry, but not many people want to play the obscure niche titles on the PC over the powerhouse exclusives that come out on the consoles.

World of Warcraft being the most popular exclusive disagrees with this statement, why are PC exclusives considered niche?
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#103 Sp4rtan_3
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Motion Controls. Better games. Social aspect. My friends all own 360's or wiis so it makes it easier to game with them.
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#104 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="Drakan11"]

[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

Considering we have more exclusives on PC than any one console I think it's us that have the games.

Birdy09

People don't get something because of the amount of exclusives, they get it because of what the exclusives are. Sorry, but not many people want to play the obscure niche titles on the PC over the powerhouse exclusives that come out on the consoles.

World of Warcraft being the most popular exclusive disagrees with this statement, why are PC exclusives considered niche?

That was wrong, not every PC excluisve is niche, but he does have a very valid point, people don't get consoles because they have more exclusives, but for the kind of games they have, you want to play Nintendo games get a Wii, you want games like TLG, GT5, GOW3, get a PS3, etc.

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#105 Drakan11
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[QUOTE="Drakan11"]

[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

Considering we have more exclusives on PC than any one console I think it's us that have the games.

Birdy09

People don't get something because of the amount of exclusives, they get it because of what the exclusives are. Sorry, but not many people want to play the obscure niche titles on the PC over the powerhouse exclusives that come out on the consoles.

World of Warcraft being the most popular exclusive disagrees with this statement, why are PC exclusives considered niche?

I didn't mean EVERY game was niche. Make a list of PC exclusives. How many are mainstream like WoW, Starcraft 2, Crysis 1.....and how many are niche adventure and strategy games? Just saying, the amount of exclusives the PC has over consoles means very little when the large majority of them are games people never heard of and have zero interest in playing.

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#106 skrat_01
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I didn't mean EVERY game was niche. Make a list of PC exclusives. How many are mainstream like WoW, Starcraft 2, Crysis 1.....and how many are niche adventure and strategy games? Just saying, the amount of exclusives the PC has over consoles means very little when the large majority of them are games people never heard of and have zero interest in playing.

Drakan11
Well this is he worst argument I have read on SW in a while. So Demon's Souls is a niche game, even as far as triple A console titles go it wasn't well known even by gamers. Yet it is still a fantastic noteworthy game, and won the goty award here. Other examples such as Valkyria chronicles, or even games that underperformed like Alan Wake, but were good and notable. Oh don't forget the Wii and the amount of great games that never see commercial success other than from a niche audience. So these 'niche' games mean very little when the majority of the console(s) userbase seems to ignore them in favour or the CODs, Halos, Killzones and God of War? Right. Your argument is absolutely terrible and considering the Starcrafts, Crysis, STALKER and Witcher sales are in the multiple millions each, they are far from being unsuccessful. Yes even actual truly niche games like Frozen Synapse or Gemini Rue, which are fantastic games in their own right, still do well, and are very good reasons to game on a PC; these aren't games that will take off anywhere else in the current gaming climate. Or you have Amenesia and the success of the 'niche' darling platformer Super Meat Boy. In an era of 'mainstream games' alienating those proclaiming themselves as 'core gamers', these 'niche games' are held up as gems to gamers; case point, Demon's Souls or STALKER. Niche doesn't diminish the quality or advantages of a platform at all, if anything it's a damn good thing. I can play Sins of a Solar Empire, DCS A-10, Warsow, Minecraft, Dangerous High School Girls in Trouble or Grey Matter on my computer, and simply there is nothing else that delivers that in similar quality games. Not to say the PC is lacking mainstream titles, as with all trends in multiplatform development the PC is getting more multiplat releases than ever (like consoles), and it is rare for a multiplat game not to get a PC release. You're also talking about the platform at the extreme end of mainstream, up there with the COD, WoW and Farmville crowd and the most ridiculously niche. This isn't a negative thing, it's the most diverse pallet of games available. More games, more variety, and a wider audience who wants to play these is a good thing.
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#107 zeta
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The games mostly

nbessiner

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

here are my personal 15 reasons

- a greater quantity of high quality exclusivesIf you combine the 3? which is unfair, seperatly they dont hold a candle to the list.

- more diverse selection of genres. there really isnt a single genre the PC has that the consoles dont, except for RTS games. the PC is lacking in fighting games, platformers, JRPGS, light gun games, action adventure games, and many other genres. What on earth? MMOANYTHING. Strategy RPG Hybrids (DoTA,HoN,LoL), adventure games are still dimonent on PC, simulation games are too. and ofcourse the much broader selection of quality indie games... are you blind? if it isnt your genre preference then fine, but achknowledge them at least.

- console games tend to have more a focus on gameplay, story, action, and cinematic presentation and less on strategy or simulation. Lol gameplay... yea right ok. you mean console games aim to be hand held interactive films.

- trophies/achievements .......... ... .... ... ok I guess, but a very weak reason, most games have them built in now anyway. Im personally above stroking my P**** with pointless numbers for doing pointless boring tasks that I wouldnt otherwise do.

- in many cases, better online communities Yea sure... I bet that isnt totally biased , you get a hell of a lot more kids screaming every negative under the sun on consoles in comparison, PC has private chats, mod communities, admin controlled communities for a great experiance.... ridiculous logic on your behalf.

- playing multiplayer with people in the room is a thousand times more easy and fun. plus, splitscreen. When your a kid where your freinds have no responsibilities maybe, to the rest of us, playing together over skype when we can, and actually doing other things in reality. Splitscreen is an eye sore, an outdated way of doing things, which is why you see less and less of it on consoles now.

- lower price range (though this isnt the caes for me considering I have a gaming PC)

- setting it up with a decent sized TV or projector is easy. actually its standard. with the PC its barely plausible. You plug it in with HDMI. so much for not plausible.

- surround sound, and better sound in general are you trolling? ... seriously....

- 3d Already on PC. has been for much longer.

- motion controls im looking at my mouse... the best tried and true motion control so far.

- in my opinion, the best games. I have yet to play a PC exclusive this gen that would get into my top ten. there really arent any PC exclusives this gen that can compare to uncharted 1 and 2, MGS4, heavy rain, killzone 2 and 3, god of war 3, vanquish, or many other console exclusives. Because you clearly dont play on PC.

- many people like owning physical copies of games. with PC gaming that tends to be less common and practical. How so? we get to install the game then never use the disc again if we want, how is it any different? every game you can buy physcially still. only you got the option to buy digitally... which has many benefits itself.

- convenience yes ok.

- most people prefer controllers. game pads are still behind in quality (plus connecting a 360 or PS3 controller to the PC is a major hassle) If most people prefer controlls why are there more PC gamers than console gamers? why is it that for decades the mouse and keyboard remain the distinguised Human to Computer input device? BECAUSE ITS ALLROUND SUPERIOR.

Connectect controllers to PC is a hassle? you plug it in and it auto- installs ... whoa ...

im probably forgetting a few things.

Birdy09

You dont PC game, dont pretend for a second you do.

I'm so glad somebody responded to this dribble.
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#108 WilliamRLBaker
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nothing they are on the same level where it counts...Fun.

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#109 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

basically better for little kids

edidili

20 here and prefer consoles :S partially cause i think theres to much flaff with PC gaming, simplicity of plug and play outweighs the PC imo.Even tho i still do some gaming on the PC its just not my cup of tea.

Imo nothing beats double click and launch the game. I find the change discs and worry if they're scratched more troublesome.

nothing beats the fact you forgot bout installation :P which usually go hand in hand with PC gaming :) oh did i just use logic there my bad.

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#110 zeta
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nothing beats the fact you forgot bout installation :P which usually go hand in hand with PC gaming :) oh did i just use logic there my bad.

razgriz_101

I hope this was sarcasm. MvC 3: Required Hard Drive Space - 1.5GB. GT5: Recommended Hard Drive Space - 5+GB. Batman Arkham Asylum: Required Hard Drive Space - 1.2GB. Vanquished: Required Hard Drive Space - 2.8GB

do I really need to go on with this "Installation" card that console-only folk seem to always use in this sort of thread?

Oh, did I use logic? My bad.

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#111 haberman13
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[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

20 here and prefer consoles :S partially cause i think theres to much flaff with PC gaming, simplicity of plug and play outweighs the PC imo.Even tho i still do some gaming on the PC its just not my cup of tea.

razgriz_101

Imo nothing beats double click and launch the game. I find the change discs and worry if they're scratched more troublesome.

nothing beats the fact you forgot bout installation :P which usually go hand in hand with PC gaming :) oh did i just use logic there my bad.

Installation = click "Purchase" on Steam, wait for ~20 minutes.... double click and play. Oh wait, you're using that old argument from 2001... cute.

In that case: I would MUCH rather install a game (soooo easy LOL) than run it off a slow loading disk.

People with 'technical difficulties' on PC should stick to console... I'm on yr 12 of PC gaming, I've literally never had an issue. (granted, I am f'ing brilliant)

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#112 DragonfireXZ95
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Motion Controls. Better games. Social aspect. My friends all own 360's or wiis so it makes it easier to game with them.Sp4rtan_3

This whole post is opinion except for the motion controls, that's a tie because the PC has them too. Interesting...

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#113 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="edidili"]

Imo nothing beats double click and launch the game. I find the change discs and worry if they're scratched more troublesome.

haberman13

nothing beats the fact you forgot bout installation :P which usually go hand in hand with PC gaming :) oh did i just use logic there my bad.

Installation = click "Purchase" on Steam, wait for ~20 minutes.... double click and play. Oh wait, you're using that old argument from 2001... cute.

In that case: I would MUCH rather install a game (soooo easy LOL) than run it off a slow loading disk.

People with 'technical difficulties' on PC should stick to console... I'm on yr 12 of PC gaming, I've literally never had an issue. (granted, I am f'ing brilliant)

Not only that but it would probably be faster and much more convenient to buy it off Steam and wait for it to download than have to run to the store to actually purchase the game.
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#114 VoodooHak
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nothing they are on the same level where it counts...Fun.

WilliamRLBaker

Pretty much.

In the balance of things, there are tradeoffs on matter what platform you prefer. At the end of the day, there's plenty of fun to be had whereever you go.

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#115 rpgs_shall_rule
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[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

20 here and prefer consoles :S partially cause i think theres to much flaff with PC gaming, simplicity of plug and play outweighs the PC imo.Even tho i still do some gaming on the PC its just not my cup of tea.

razgriz_101

Imo nothing beats double click and launch the game. I find the change discs and worry if they're scratched more troublesome.

nothing beats the fact you forgot bout installation :P which usually go hand in hand with PC gaming :) oh did i just use logic there my bad.

Lolz. Clicking next a couple of times isn't that hard right?

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#116 blackace
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when it comes to gaming. what is it?

just curious

wirey87
Friends online, exclusive games, problem free gaming with no setup restrictions. Everything is very user friendly and 'plug & play'.
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#117 haberman13
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[QUOTE="wirey87"]

when it comes to gaming. what is it?

just curious

blackace

Friends online, exclusive games, problem free gaming with no setup restrictions. Everything is very user friendly and 'plug & play'.

Friends online: check

Exclusive games (best IMO): check

Setup restrictions? There are none, in fact, you can setup the game/install/system any way you want.

User friendly: no

Worth it: yes

So really, switching to PC just makes sense, assuming you can get your friends to follow (believe me, they crumble like sandstone when they see PC gaming).

The only holdback is if you aren't tech savvy, because it does require the use of an OS and limited knowledge of what hardware does what.

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#118 blackace
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[QUOTE="Blacklight2"]They are more easily accessible. That's the only thing they have over PCs.Jankarcop

basically better for little kids

There are just kids that play consoles. I'm over 40 and have been gaming since Pong. I've built my own PC's as well. Game consoles are not just for kids. You can bury that dumb comment. PC's gaming is more for hardcore tech heads. Something I used to do a lot before I got married and had kids. lol!! Yes, there are casual gamers playing PC games too, but they are mostly playing The Sims 3, Facebook and internet games. They aren't playing WoW, Shogun 2, The Witcher, TF2, etc.. Game consoles are for both hardcore & casual gamers. The age group ranges from 6 - 75yrs.
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#119 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="wirey87"]

when it comes to gaming. what is it?

just curious

haberman13

Friends online, exclusive games, problem free gaming with no setup restrictions. Everything is very user friendly and 'plug & play'.

Friends online: check

Exclusive games (best IMO): check

Setup restrictions? There are none, in fact, you can setup the game/install/system any way you want.

User friendly: no

Worth it: yes

So really, switching to PC just makes sense, assuming you can get your friends to follow (believe me, they crumble like sandstone when they see PC gaming).

The only holdback is if you aren't tech savvy, because it does require the use of an OS and limited knowledge of what hardware does what.

There are restrictions if you don't have enough memory or enough space on your HDD. YES , there are setup restrictions. I had outdated drivers for my graphics card and a game wouldn't even play. Another time the site hosting the DRM was down so I couldn't get the proper authorization. YES, there are restrictions. Just ask all those people who had problems with Spore at launch. lol!! PC's are not user friendly if you are not familiar with PC's. I've seen people have problems just getting their mouse to work. lol!! Yes, you do need to be tech savy to really enjoy PC gaming and a lot of people still aren't.

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#120 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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games, that's why i quit pc gaming a long time ago

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#121 Mr_Cumberdale
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games, that's why i quit pc gaming a long time ago

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Great choice. I'm fine without WoW or Farmville myself.
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#122 Espada12
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[QUOTE="da_illest101"]

games, that's why i quit pc gaming a long time ago

Mr_Cumberdale

Great choice. I'm fine without WoW or Farmville myself.

I prefer Wow and farmville over Wii sports and Wii fit that consoles were offering so I stuck to PC gaming.

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#123 Raymundo_Manuel
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[QUOTE="da_illest101"]

games, that's why i quit pc gaming a long time ago

Mr_Cumberdale

Great choice. I'm fine without WoW or Farmville myself.

You need to quit bringing up Farmville.

Cityville overtook it in popularity a short while ago.

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#124 EvanTheGamer
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Games, consoles just have more.

*nb4listsofpcgamesnoonehaseverheardoforwilleverplay*

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#125 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

The games. Can't play Uncharted or Reach on my PC.

Drakan11

Considering we have more exclusives on PC than any one console I think it's us that have the games.

People don't get something because of the amount of exclusives, they get it because of what the exclusives are. Sorry, but not many people want to play the obscure niche titles on the PC over the powerhouse exclusives that come out on the consoles.

in other things, its better because it has more tv commercials. cool story bro.

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#126 RyanShazam
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Split Screen, Dont have to deal with trying to get the game to work on a console, party friendly, Brawl

Personally console exclusive games appeal more to me than PC games.

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#127 zeta
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*sigh* misguided console-only folk..

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#128 coltgames
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no system requirements
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#129 Iantheone
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Games, consoles just have more.

*nb4listsofpcgamesnoonehaseverheardoforwilleverplay*

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Ive played most of those games on those PC gaming lists. Just because you havent doesnt mean noone has
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#130 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Drakan11"]

[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

Considering we have more exclusives on PC than any one console I think it's us that have the games.

Jankarcop

People don't get something because of the amount of exclusives, they get it because of what the exclusives are. Sorry, but not many people want to play the obscure niche titles on the PC over the powerhouse exclusives that come out on the consoles.

in other things, its better because it has more tv commercials. cool story bro.

That is really what it boils down too. Most Console fanboys here pretty much turn a blind eye to most PC exclusives because in they're mind "if i've never heard of it..it sucks" The 90+ PC exclusive thread is proof of this

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#131 Raymundo_Manuel
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="Drakan11"] People don't get something because of the amount of exclusives, they get it because of what the exclusives are. Sorry, but not many people want to play the obscure niche titles on the PC over the powerhouse exclusives that come out on the consoles.

lawlessx

in other things, its better because it has more tv commercials. cool story bro.

That is really what it boils down too. Most Console fanboys here pretty much a blind eye to most PC exclusives because in they're mind "if i've never heard of it..it sucks" The 90+ PC exclusive thread is proof of this

I would think most PC gamers shed a tear at the comments made in that thread, and similar threads like it. I know I did.

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#132 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

in other things, its better because it has more tv commercials. cool story bro.

Raymundo_Manuel

That is really what it boils down too. Most Console fanboys here pretty much a blind eye to most PC exclusives because in they're mind "if i've never heard of it..it sucks" The 90+ PC exclusive thread is proof of this

I would think most PC gamers shed a tear at the comments made in that thread, and similar threads like it. I know I did.

and we can't forget the classic " the last big PC exclusive that released was starcraft 2"
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#133 EvanTheGamer
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Quality vs Quantity, this is why console gaming is superior : )

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#134 lundy86_4
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Quality vs Quantity, this is why console gaming is superior : )

EvanTheGamer

PC has almost as many quality exclusives as the 3 consoles, and beats either in a one-on-one handily :?

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#135 mitu123
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Games that are only on consoles, and that's it IMO.

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#136 kalipekona
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I own a 360 and a PS3 for the exclusives I can't get on the PC. Consoles are also easier for some people. PC is where I do most of my gaming though.

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#138 mitu123
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[QUOTE="da_illest101"]

games, that's why i quit pc gaming a long time ago

Mr_Cumberdale
Great choice. I'm fine without WoW or Farmville myself.

I don't even play those games and I still game on PC as much as consoles and now more so recently with my upgraded build.
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They are more easily accessible. That's the only thing they have over PCs.Blacklight2
and that all the games made on them are designed with a controller in mind and a hud you can see 5ft away
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#140 kalipekona
Member since 2003 • 2492 Posts

Games that are only on consoles, and that's it IMO.

mitu123

Yeah, pretty much.

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#141 RandomWinner
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My anti virus needs to be renewed in 2 days.

I don't have to do that for a console.

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#142 hippiesanta
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console games got better epic games, pc got some games but more casual and juvenile flashgames
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#143 lundy86_4
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console games got better epic games, pc got some games but more casual and juvenile flashgameshippiesanta

Could you please elaborate. I have no idea where you're going with this :?

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#144 gmaster456
Member since 2008 • 7569 Posts

My anti virus needs to be renewed in 2 days.

I don't have to do that for a console.

RandomWinner

lol wut? You'd have to do that know matter what you use your PC for. What the hell does that have to do with gaming? That was pathetic

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#145 rpgs_shall_rule
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My anti virus needs to be renewed in 2 days.

I don't have to do that for a console.

RandomWinner

You pay for your AV?!? Why...?

console games got better epic games, pc got some games but more casual and juvenile flashgameshippiesanta

If we're talking story-wise, I'd say a game like The Witcher or Baldur's Gate 2 totally destroys what has come out on consoles. That might be a little biased on my part though, as I have background lore from books to draw on too.

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#146 Blade8Aus
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My anti virus needs to be renewed in 2 days.

I don't have to do that for a console.

RandomWinner

...You don't have to do that for a PC either :|

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#147 hippiesanta
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[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]console games got better epic games, pc got some games but more casual and juvenile flashgameslundy86_4

Could you please elaborate. I have no idea where you're going with this :?

It's for you to find out
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#148 gmaster456
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]console games got better epic games, pc got some games but more casual and juvenile flashgameshippiesanta

Could you please elaborate. I have no idea where you're going with this :?

It's for you to find out

Way to get out of that one :roll:
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#149 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]console games got better epic games, pc got some games but more casual and juvenile flashgameshippiesanta

Could you please elaborate. I have no idea where you're going with this :?

It's for you to find out

I'm assuming you can't and that's why you're deflecting.