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[QUOTE="sethman410"]People think it's better because you have to pay fees for it, but it is equal.navyguy21i have both, and its far from equal
its equal and you should know it if you have both..
I do have both and they perform equally for what they're meant to which is letting you play games online... Do like myself and play games such as BF:BD, COD4 & Fifa2009 on both online and prove me wrong if you find XbL somehow performs better.. IT DOESNT..
I dont care about a couple of extra features such as cross-game chat, Netflix etcthey are useless for playing online, its just an extra NON ESSENTIAL FOR ONLINE GAMING feature..
Its always funny seeing people justifying paying extra for XBL like it would be funny when someone states PS3 is better for online cause it offers a Web Browser, Home & has more games with 32+ online players.. Those are just extra features or in the case of 32+ players a DEVS choice..
Tell me what will you say should SONY implement chat parties / cross-game chat in PSN and still keep it free? will XBL remain better in your eyes?
[QUOTE="sethman410"]People think it's better because you have to pay fees for it, but it is equal.navyguy21i have both, and its far from equal Because your a lemming, you can't see it as equal.
[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="sethman410"]People think it's better because you have to pay fees for it, but it is equal.sethman410i have both, and its far from equal Because your a lemming, you can't see it as equal. So because i dont agree with you..........im a lemming?? :lol: and @malta, i agree that they perform the same..........yes...............but what i meant, is live is seamlessly integrated with everything else. for example, the quick lauch feature, where i can lauch ANYTHING, from ANYWHERE. As a matter of fact, let me just post what i wrote in my blog -
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What makes LIVE better than PSN??
Ive seen this asked over and over on this site, so since i own both, i decided to list a few. But to fully understand, you have to experience it for yourself. So take this list, find a friend with a 360, and see for yourself.
1- cross game chat -this is more than it sounds. not only can you chat accross different games, but you can seamlessly create a party while in game, and switch from friends only chat, to chatting with people online, all without leaving the game
2- Custom soundtracks- this is the most misunderstood by fanboys. This feature is built into every game, and is built on the LIVE software that MS created. Meaning when i play a custom soundtrack on 360 (whether its from the hard drive, pc, or MP3 player) the game music, and ONLY the game music, stops playing. This doesnt happen with PS3. On 360, it only plays the sound effects and ambient sounds in the game, allowing me to hear my song. PS3 just plays the music (only dev supported) over my game sound.
3-In game access to everything- this is another misunderstood feature. With 360, if im playing a game, and i want to.....say play netflix. i dont have to go to the dashboard first, all i do is press the guide button, and click netflix. It stops my game and immediately plays. Or if im playing........say mass effect, and i wanna play Jade Empire that i downloaded. Same thing, just press the guide, and scroll to downloaded games. Its is nowhere NEAR as easy on PS3
4- Trueskill Ranking system- I cant count how many times i was playing warhawk when i first got it, and got beat like a runaway slave until i got the hang of it. Imagine going to the gym to play basketball, and everyday you had to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq!! Trueskill tracks your accomplishments ingame, and matches you with people on your level, making sure every experience is fair, and fun.
5 Intergration- Kinda speaks for itself. Basically my friends list follows me through every game. im even notified if a friend is playing the same game as me, and allows me to join the right then, no lobbies, menus, or anything. I can also check my achievements, friends achievements, and the profiles of the last 40 people ive played online at anytime, whether im watching a movie, netflix, playing a game, or whatever.
6-Cross game invites- no matter what im doing, i can invite a player to my game with the press of a button. No need to type a message like on PS3. I can also record voice messages to send to anyone ingame.
7-Server based system- the myth going on is that LIVE doesnt have dedicated servers. While this is mostly true, what people fail to realize is that EVERYTHING Live related IS kept on servers, servers that MS maintains. My friends lists, achievements (even my achievement progress), games played, and even my LOCATION or MODE in the game is tracked and displayed to my friends. Meaning i can check my friends profile (ingame if i choose) and see what area hes cruising in GTA iv, or the score in madden or NFL nk9, or the mode, map, and score in Halo 3.
There are many more, but like i said, go experience it for yourself.
@navy, i didn't say that if you don't agree with me that means you are a lemming. Im just saying that you can't see it as equal because you are a lemming, probably?I t is not far better than PSN, only lemmings believe in that.
[QUOTE="93soccer"]netflix can hardly be used since it is only available in usa, and if you didn't know ps3 has had full game downloads for select games for a while. where is prototype on games on demand? there is not a single new game on it. The only worthwhile feature xbl has over psn in the cross game voice chat. Hardly be used? About 40% of all systems sold are sold in America, and I dont have figures on XBL, but you cannot say hardly used.Xbox Live has Netflix, Parties, Netflix Parties, Cross game chat, Avatars, Games On Demand, Earlier DLC, Primetime channel like 1vs100 among many other things
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or............you know..............people have different opinions??:|@navy, i didn't say that if you don't agree with me that means you are a lemming. Im just saying that you can't see it as equal because you are a lemming, probably?I t is not far better than PSN, only lemmings believe in that.
sethman410
Do you even own a 360 to be able to state an opinion of it??
Because your a lemming, you can't see it as equal. So because i dont agree with you..........im a lemming?? :lol: and @malta, i agree that they perform the same..........yes...............but what i meant, is live is seamlessly integrated with everything else. for example, the quick lauch feature, where i can lauch ANYTHING, from ANYWHERE. As a matter of fact, let me just post what i wrote in my blog -[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] i have both, and its far from equalnavyguy21
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What makes LIVE better than PSN??
Ive seen this asked over and over on this site, so since i own both, i decided to list a few. But to fully understand, you have to experience it for yourself. So take this list, find a friend with a 360, and see for yourself.
1- cross game chat -this is more than it sounds. not only can you chat accross different games, but you can seamlessly create a party while in game, and switch from friends only chat, to chatting with people online, all without leaving the game
2- Custom soundtracks- this is the most misunderstood by fanboys. This feature is built into every game, and is built on the LIVE software that MS created. Meaning when i play a custom soundtrack on 360 (whether its from the hard drive, pc, or MP3 player) the game music, and ONLY the game music, stops playing. This doesnt happen with PS3. On 360, it only plays the sound effects and ambient sounds in the game, allowing me to hear my song. PS3 just plays the music (only dev supported) over my game sound.
3-In game access to everything- this is another misunderstood feature. With 360, if im playing a game, and i want to.....say play netflix. i dont have to go to the dashboard first, all i do is press the guide button, and click netflix. It stops my game and immediately plays. Or if im playing........say mass effect, and i wanna play Jade Empire that i downloaded. Same thing, just press the guide, and scroll to downloaded games. Its is nowhere NEAR as easy on PS3
4- Trueskill Ranking system- I cant count how many times i was playing warhawk when i first got it, and got beat like a runaway slave until i got the hang of it. Imagine going to the gym to play basketball, and everyday you had to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq!! Trueskill tracks your accomplishments ingame, and matches you with people on your level, making sure every experience is fair, and fun.
5 Intergration- Kinda speaks for itself. Basically my friends list follows me through every game. im even notified if a friend is playing the same game as me, and allows me to join the right then, no lobbies, menus, or anything. I can also check my achievements, friends achievements, and the profiles of the last 40 people ive played online at anytime, whether im watching a movie, netflix, playing a game, or whatever.
6-Cross game invites- no matter what im doing, i can invite a player to my game with the press of a button. No need to type a message like on PS3. I can also record voice messages to send to anyone ingame.
7-Server based system- the myth going on is that LIVE doesnt have dedicated servers. While this is mostly true, what people fail to realize is that EVERYTHING Live related IS kept on servers, servers that MS maintains. My friends lists, achievements (even my achievement progress), games played, and even my LOCATION or MODE in the game is tracked and displayed to my friends. Meaning i can check my friends profile (ingame if i choose) and see what area hes cruising in GTA iv, or the score in madden or NFL nk9, or the mode, map, and score in Halo 3.
There are many more, but like i said, go experience it for yourself.
When was the last time you updated your ps3?
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@navy, i didn't say that if you don't agree with me that means you are a lemming. Im just saying that you can't see it as equal because you are a lemming, probably?I t is not far better than PSN, only lemmings believe in that.
or............you know..............people have different opinions??:|Do you even own a 360 to be able to state an opinion of it??
Yes people have their own opinions, but those who think Live is superior are most likely lemmings. I dont have a 360, that doesn't mean i can't be able to state an opinion of it.[QUOTE="navyguy21"]or............you know..............people have different opinions??:|[QUOTE="sethman410"]
@navy, i didn't say that if you don't agree with me that means you are a lemming. Im just saying that you can't see it as equal because you are a lemming, probably?I t is not far better than PSN, only lemmings believe in that.
sethman410
Do you even own a 360 to be able to state an opinion of it??
Yes people have their own opinions, but those who think Live is superior are most likely lemmings. I dont have a 360, that doesn't mean i can't be able to state an opinion of it.Have you ever been on Xbox Live? If not than sure you can state an opinion, but not an educated opinion.
I personally dont know if Xbox Live is better than PSN. I have had Xbox Live and it was great. I have never been on PSN though so I cant give an opinion. I will be trying it out though when I get a PS3 in the near future.
[QUOTE="navyguy21"]or............you know..............people have different opinions??:|[QUOTE="sethman410"]
@navy, i didn't say that if you don't agree with me that means you are a lemming. Im just saying that you can't see it as equal because you are a lemming, probably?I t is not far better than PSN, only lemmings believe in that.
sethman410
Do you even own a 360 to be able to state an opinion of it??
Yes people have their own opinions, but those who think Live is superior are most likely lemmings. I dont have a 360, that doesn't mean i can't be able to state an opinion of it.Then how can you say that they are equal if you dont have a 360?? :|[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] or............you know..............people have different opinions??:|
Do you even own a 360 to be able to state an opinion of it??
Yes people have their own opinions, but those who think Live is superior are most likely lemmings. I dont have a 360, that doesn't mean i can't be able to state an opinion of it.Then how can you say that they are equal if you dont have a 360?? :| Because... i played it at a friends? That means i can't still give an opinion about it?[QUOTE="sethman410"]
@navy, i didn't say that if you don't agree with me that means you are a lemming. Im just saying that you can't see it as equal because you are a lemming, probably?I t is not far better than PSN, only lemmings believe in that.
or............you know..............people have different opinions??:|Do you even own a 360 to be able to state an opinion of it??
Yes people have their own opinions, but those who think Live is superior are most likely lemmings. I dont have a 360, that doesn't mean i can't be able to state an opinion of it. You have very little to support what your saying. You haven't tried live, so you cannot form an opinion. If you've formed an opinion that they are equal without trying both, your most likely a cow. You see what i did there?[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Then how can you say that they are equal if you dont have a 360?? :| Because... i played it at a friends? That means i can't still give an opinion about it? Did you really play it at a friends? For how long? Did you go through all the features and make sure that Live was not better than PSN. I dont really expect you to do any of that but if you havent done your research than any opinion you have on the matter is irrelevant. Sethman are you a Cow. You can admit it if you are.[QUOTE="sethman410"] Yes people have their own opinions, but those who think Live is superior are most likely lemmings. I dont have a 360, that doesn't mean i can't be able to state an opinion of it.sethman410
[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Then how can you say that they are equal if you dont have a 360?? :| Because... i played it at a friends? That means i can't still give an opinion about it? Fair enough, but i just have a different opinion than you, and i think Live is better, but that doesnt make me a Lemming.............it means i have an opinion...........just like yours:| Is your opinion better than mine?? Am i wrong, and you right?? Just because YOU think they are equal, doesnt make the vast majority (general conscensus is that live is better) of everyone else........... lemmings:|[QUOTE="sethman410"] Yes people have their own opinions, but those who think Live is superior are most likely lemmings. I dont have a 360, that doesn't mean i can't be able to state an opinion of it.sethman410
[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]Then how can you say that they are equal if you dont have a 360?? :|Because... i played it at a friends? That means i can't still give an opinion about it? Did you really play it at a friends? For how long? Did you go through all the features and make sure that Live was not better than PSN. I dont really expect you to do any of that but if you havent done your research than any opinion you have on the matter is irrelevant. Sethman are you a Cow. You can admit it if you are.tester962
Nope i didn't go through all the features, just the games online, mostly halo. But i still admit they are equal because i think the features that live has and psn doesnt have is pointless and ridiculous reason why LIVE>PSN.
Because... i played it at a friends? That means i can't still give an opinion about it? Fair enough, but i just have a different opinion than you, and i think Live is better, but that doesnt make me a Lemming.............it means i have an opinion...........just like yours:| Is your opinion better than mine?? Am i wrong, and you right?? Just because YOU think they are equal, doesnt make the vast majority (general conscensus is that live is better) of everyone else........... lemmings:| Navy I found this on Youtube and I think its perfect for Sethman. It was going through my head the whole time I read any of his posts.[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]Then how can you say that they are equal if you dont have a 360?? :|
navyguy21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PVT6C_p8d0
[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]Then how can you say that they are equal if you dont have a 360?? :|
Because... i played it at a friends? That means i can't still give an opinion about it? Fair enough, but i just have a different opinion than you, and i think Live is better, but that doesnt make me a Lemming.............it means i have an opinion...........just like yours:| Is your opinion better than mine?? Am i wrong, and you right?? Just because YOU think they are equal, doesnt make the vast majority (general conscensus is that live is better) of everyone else........... lemmings:| Ok Ok... you're right. Just saying that people who usually say that Live is ''far superior'' are most likely lemmings.Did you really play it at a friends? For how long? Did you go through all the features and make sure that Live was not better than PSN. I dont really expect you to do any of that but if you havent done your research than any opinion you have on the matter is irrelevant. Sethman are you a Cow. You can admit it if you are.[QUOTE="tester962"][QUOTE="sethman410"] Because... i played it at a friends? That means i can't still give an opinion about it? sethman410
Nope i didn't go through all the features, just the games online, mostly halo. But i still admit they are equal because i think the features that live has and psn doesnt have is pointless and ridiculous reason why LIVE>PSN.
The features are what makes the services differerent.... Its not pointless at all... :?@bronx, but ain't the main point of online is games?sethman410Sure, but they online play on both systems, is more or less the same. its the other features that set them apart.
[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Fair enough, but i just have a different opinion than you, and i think Live is better, but that doesnt make me a Lemming.............it means i have an opinion...........just like yours:| Is your opinion better than mine?? Am i wrong, and you right?? Just because YOU think they are equal, doesnt make the vast majority (general conscensus is that live is better) of everyone else........... lemmings:| Ok Ok... you're right. Just saying that people who usually say that Live is ''far superior'' are most likely lemmings. Ok, well youre a cow for saying they are equal.......when they are so clearly not:|[QUOTE="sethman410"] Because... i played it at a friends? That means i can't still give an opinion about it? sethman410
See how silly that sounds??
And if you havent tried all the features, how can you definitively say that they are equal...........maybe just the features YOU tried, led YOU to believe that they were equal. I suggest you go to your "friend" and spend some time with Live/NXE, and come back and see if your opinion holds any water.
[QUOTE="sethman410"]@bronx, but ain't the main point of online is games?bronxxbombersSure, but they online play on both systems, is more or less the same. its the other features that set them apart. Only by bit... Live only has a few that PSN doesn't have...
Ahh the lem logic. Untill a few days ago when the slim/price drop was announced you couldn't read a single thread on this site without stumbling on the inevitable stab @ sony/PS3 for being what, a hundred dollars difference in price from 360 (which IMO was worth it for Bluray, bluetooth and wifi alone). Yet, the second most posted comment from the lems is always justifying the annual fee of live... Well, if you choose a 360 over PS3 and are a gold subscriber for four years guess what? You've just been swindled into thinking you've made the better financial decision but nah uh.
Anyways I digress, from someone with both systems in question and a gold subscription here's the rundown. What IMO the 360's online service bests the PS3 is demos for all XBLA games, cross game chat annnnd... that's all you'd miss. Lems boast Fbook & twitter or whatever but the Tre's got a full-on web browser so you're not limited to just a couple of integrated things. Youtube, or the pr0n versions thereof or whatever it's nice that you can browse the web on the PS3. The XMB isn't as flashy as the "NXE" but I hate the new Live and would go back to the blades if they let me, I like the simplicity of the XMB & after firmware V3.00 I'd say the free one is the better of the two.
[QUOTE="sethman410"]@bronx, but ain't the main point of online is games?navyguy21So WiiConnect = PSN then?? I mean, they do the same thing.........no?? That is totally a different topic, but only a few games on Wii support online. How can we compare? This is between the 360 and PSN, they pretty much have same amount of features.
[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="sethman410"]@bronx, but ain't the main point of online is games?sethman410Sure, but they online play on both systems, is more or less the same. its the other features that set them apart. Only by bit... Live only has a few that PSN doesn't have... Well, not only does live have more/better features, but the interface is better. Watching my friend send messages while at his house, just reminded me how easy XBL is. Personally, I dont know enough to make a final decision, but what ive seen and heard has me leaning towards the xbl.
[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] Sure, but they online play on both systems, is more or less the same. its the other features that set them apart.bronxxbombersOnly by bit... Live only has a few that PSN doesn't have... Well, not only does live have more/better features, but the interface is better. Watching my friend send messages while at his house, just reminded me how easy XBL is. Personally, I dont know enough to make a final decision, but what ive seen and heard has me leaning towards the xbl. Yes it is still equal imo.
sethman410That is totally a different topic, but only a few games on Wii support online. How can we compare? This is between the 360 and PSN, they pretty much have same amount of features.
@bronx, but ain't the main point of online is games?sethman410
You said it, not me.
And only a few PS3 games support custom soundtracks, but that keeps getting listed as on PSN now doesnt it. Seems like you are stepping on your own toes here:|
[QUOTE="sethman410"] That is totally a different topic, but only a few games on Wii support online. How can we compare? This is between the 360 and PSN, they pretty much have same amount of features.navyguy21
@bronx, but ain't the main point of online is games?sethman410
You said it, not me.
And only a few PS3 games support custom soundtracks, but that keeps getting listed as on PSN now doesnt it. Seems like you are stepping on your own toes here:|
Hmm no...main point is online. But Wii only has a few that supports online, so why bring the Wii into the discussion? The ps3 and 360 still has the same amount of features. Live only has more by a few...we are not talking about custom soundtracks.I wouldn't sell the 360 to buy the PS3 if i were you. 360 only owners will be saddened when the get into PSN, because it lacks a lot of the features that the 360 had. But if you are looking for good online gaming, ie. servers and such, as well as not minding semi alright features (even those that has been done before) then you would be happy. Those who say "more people", just forget it, can you seriously tell me that you have played with hundreds of other games AND remembered who they were so you didn't have to play them again. You won't be seeing the same person again for some time, but even if you do - does it matter? You play against or with someone that you had before, lets you either pawn them more easily the second time or play more cooperatively. No cross-game voice chat as well.I'm getting a PS3 and getting rid of my 360 so I'm just wondering what makes PSN so much worse. The only thing I can think of are parties.. Anything else? You can still have private chat with people on PSN right?
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