WHAT MICROSOFT OWNS SONY CANNOT GET" Bethesda founder Christopher Weaver

@i_p_daily: With that logic, why is Minecraft still multiplat? It’s because being on every device is profitable. Fallout, to my knowledge has always been on multiple platforms and Elder Scrolls as well except Marrowind which probably wasn’t on the ps2 due to lack of horsepower.

They bring up a good point in this interview, when he said it's no accident that MS announced this at a certain time.

Why would MS feel the need to to announce anything if they were going to continue to release everything on the Playstation platform.

I think Playstation are going to have to develop their own version of these Bethesda games. Perhaps "Older Papers" (Elder Scrolls), "Gloom" (Doom) and "Quarrel" (Fall Out). :-P

Minecraft is a big seller, but it's not a system seller. I doubt anyone said "I WAS going to get that system, but Minecraft isn't on it so I changed my mind". A lot of Bethesda games are important enough to have that impact for some people making their exclusivity more important than sales for the company.

If someone bought EA, withholding Fifa sales on a particular platform would hurt the products sales, but would hurt the platform it isn't on way more in particular territories such as Europe.

MS has struggled against Playstation. It makes no sense for them to release these games on Playstation. They're fighting for market share.

Minecraft was already on pretty much everything before MS bought the IP, and i think there is some sort of clause that's in place to keep the Minecraft IP on multiple platforms, because Mojang released Cobalt that wasn't released on the PS4, and yet Minecraft Dungeons was, so looking in from the outside it seems to me anyway that some clause is in place.

Also can you name any big AAA MS game released on the PS4? i can't.

Be funny if MS start to rub salt in the wound as well. "We were going to release them, but there wasn't enough teraflops on Playstation for the experience we wanted". Everyone would be like "OH NO YOU DITN'T". :-P

I think there are some gamers that are going with a PS5/PC combination. PS5 for the PS exclusives and PC for everything else. So with this deal they will play Bethesda games on PC - still no reason for them to buy an Xbox.

For me if the Elder Scrolls comes to PS then I'll play it if not I won't. I am not bothered about any other Bethesda game (unless they improve Fallout - which is unlikely). It wouldn't surprise me if ES6 becomes a live service MMO rather than a single player game because that's what the AAA studios do.

@i_p_daily: ‘Also can you name any big AAA MS game released on the PS4? i can't.’

I mean, I mentioned Minecraft and I absolutely think it’s strong enough to sell systems. It gave MS a huge advantage when it was exclusively (console wise) on the 360 back in the day. While I can’t think of more titles MS has put on the ps4 (Cuphead, maybe?), doesn’t exclude a future trend. When was MS’s last big studio acquisition? Mojang? They also have a big IP that is multiplat as previously mentioned.

@HalcyonScarlet: ‘Minecraft is a big seller, but it's not a system seller’

It’s been accredited for moving a lot of Xbox 360’s before it came to playstation. It had a bundle too.

:-S Really? Minecraft? Okay... :-S Minecraft?

Let me help some of you folks who are concerned about this deal, MS will own Bethesda and they will do whatever they deem best for their company and that will include not making games available on the PS5. Which games? We can speculate but they are going to block games for the PS5. The gamers who have been crying out for Xbox exclusives should be elated that their PS5 will now have less access to games. But, that shouldn't be a problem because every PS owner is an avid PC gamer.😉

Last big studios, Obsidian and they announced Avowed for Xbox/PC, or Playground games and they announced Fable, again for the Xbox/PC, so i can't see Bethesda games going to the PS5 except for the 2 that Sony did a deal with.

Minecraft is not a big AAA game and was already on the PS4 before MS bought Mojang.

xbox serious S

the £249 cure for “will bethesdas huge AAA’s come to PS“ sleepless nights

HaH

Tell it to Minecraft and Deathloop lol

I know you're pretty pro consumer, but tbh, I don't have that much sympathy with this, because MS puts their games on so many devices, day one gamepass and eventually Xcloud. Where as Sony tends to lock everything to one hardware.

But when Sony do it, it's celebrated? :-S Many year long timed exclusives to one hardware. Not even the media complain about that.

Weren't Sony fans recently celebrating another Final Fantasy timed exclusive or something? No Spider-Man games on other consoles, a character that should be enjoyed by all. Didn't Sony fans lose their s**t when one of the Tomb Raider games was timed exclusive?

I imagine, by the time any of these Bethesda games come out such as Elder scrolls or the next Doom etc, it'll be cheap enough to build a PC that runs them and already the Series S is only £249 at launch in the UK, I imagine it'll be £199 for sure in a couple of years when these games are ready.

It just doesn't really sound like MS are holding gamers to ransom with this to me. :-S

TLDR version...Microsoft bought Bethesda for exclusivity. Kinda how exclusives work.

I was going to correct you by saying that Xbox doesn't have exclusive games and this is not a exclusivity purchase but upon further inspection of the word, it is valid because this purchase and many other games are going to be excluded from specific platforms validating the claim of exclusive.

With that said, exclusives in the traditional sense it is not, but times has changed. 🤷🏽‍♂️

I don't think MS are about hardware anymore. They probably see it as 'exclusive to the ecosystem'. It's a smart way around directly competing with Playstation head to head. It makes hardware sales less of a hindrance for them. I know that's obvious, but I never really grasped the scope of this until recently.

I'm very interested to see if by the end of this upcoming gen, if MS has forced Sony to evolve. Even if Sony wins the hardware sales again, it won't mean much if MS are not bound by hardware for their games and services.

I'm impressed with MSs plan, I can't lie. As a business, they were always going to struggle head to head with Playstation. The Xbox 360 was the closest they got and that was dead heat, with Sony having to make many mistakes with the PS3 for that to happen.

I hope this move makes the industry better as whole. Allow for games to be hardware agnostic. I am have no problem seeing all MS games on the PS5 but I also believe it should be bi-directional at the same time. Gamers should just pick the hardware of their choice like on PC, and just play the games they want.

To be honest, I don't see the benefit of exclusivity with some games for Sony. Is it royalties or licence fees they need a singular hardware for? I don't think their hardware is particularly unique. Gran Turismo for the PC for example is surely a good business move. Personally, not that interested in the game, but there is a lot of sim drivers on the PC.

Cows are toast.

@ttboy:

So you dusted out this alt just to post this? Damn.

By the way he is referring to the amount of quality games in a single studio not about sony not been able to pay 7 billions for a studio.

No one should be mad about this, it is business as usual, MS most have find out about this deals and stole sony's thunder by buying the developer for self, it is known now that sony was working to getting starfield exclusive as well.

Is not the first time this happen Halo once was a PS2 game as well before MS bought Bungie back in the day.

No hilarious would be if after all this shit this games end on PS5 as well simply because the PS5 will probably much larger install base, i am sure if several of this games were in development already they were so for PS5 as well.

MS payed more than 2 billions for minecraft developers and the game remains multiplatform, i am sure they will make an analysis of it but as soon as they see the PS5 getting further and further away in sales they will probably land those games on PS5.

By the way Minecraft as of this moment has been bought by more than 200 million people in all platforms by far and away bigger than any of those bethesda games or MS own games like Halo or Forza.

This pathetic notion that MS doesn't need to make money is just that a pathetic notion, if MS was so kind on losing money you would only have 1 gamepass and not 2 model Ultimate and Gimped, and online would be FREE right NOW if any company can do it MS can.

But this is the same shitty company who can't even pack a damn pair of rechargeable AA batteries and a cheap cable because they SELL YOU ONE, the same company who hide free to play games behind a pay wall, the same company who charge you more for Gamepass Ultimate just so it can't avoid giving you free online play, and which been charging you a yearly fee since 2002.

So yeah MS does care about money you just don't see it because you are to busy salivating for what ever shit they do, and now you will pay more than $200 for a proprietary SSD ala xbox 360 and its over priced 20GB drive back then.

@tormentos: Of course ... the alt was going unused

Not sure why Sony fans get mad when MS does something like this. Sony has been doing it for years. What they should be concerned about is if Cloud gaming/Gamepass is the future .... If Gamepass is a massive success then Sony probably will be out of the gaming business...

It costs many billions just to think about creating the needed infrastructure for Cloud computing. This is why there are only a few companies that have that infrastructure. How long will MS allow them on Azure if Gamepass is a huge success and Sony makes PS+ more successful. Yes they can go to Google /Amazon but they also have their own gaming platforms. If you work in IT you learn to hate Migrations so such a move is also a real pain. Sony has an old distribution model in a modern world.. not good :)

I believe Gamepass is Micorsoft's Checkmate to Sony. We shall see

Up until now this fight has been similar to a 10 year old picking on his older 20 year old brother. Once the older brother decides to fight it isn't a contest. Look at the size of the companies/profit/technical ability/cash liquidity/etc..... MS is making this a fight about Technical ability and less about pieces of plastic or fanboy mindshare.. Its a race to lock in Users for many years... its not a fair fight.

@makotoniijima: nope. But there is a double standard among some people.

you're an alt, eltormo.

Cows are desperate for Xbox exclusives lol.

There are lots of signs that this isn't the only acquisition in the near future... Cows should prepare themselves

New games that had an existing contract with Sony to appear on there system will be on that platform legally they have to, anything else your all dreaming. It's not going to happen. (minecraft already probably had an agreement in place to be multiplat)

If MS was going to release AAA games that they now own on the main rival system then what would be the point in having there own consoles? hardware isn't where the moneys at.

The more exclusives that go to gamepass day one the more subscribers you attract, xbox's and pc is a huge market.

Everyone talks as if PC isn't a MS platform, it was the first and always has been.

This is by far the correct post I seen all day. Any Sony fan who has a PC shouldn't be worry about not able to play any Bethesda gakes from this point on. Myself included since I'm not gonna buy PS5 anytime soon.

there it just 2 things i wonder about...

1) Will Ms other studios switch to id tech over UE5 for their shooters and the Starfield engine for their rpg games...

2) The Exclusives that sony got r only timed on console does that mean it will be on pc gamepass same day..

these are the 2 things that got me going Hmmmm.

I have a feeling elder scrolls and fallout will be multiplatform the exclusive I can see is starfield.

You guys do know steam, the epic store, uplay, etc are all other platforms right. so is mobile. Why do people auto-think this meant PS